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Home My WebLink AboutPlanning Commission Minutes 05-12-1982PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTESS CITY OF PLYMOUTH X 12.7 1982 A ;regular meeting of the Plymouth Plannine Commission was called to order it, the City Center Council Chambers ai 7:30P.M. by hairwom nsl Ou4 KUS PRM ha 3r rt sat o 1 slort rs Vy'zre Kipuss Plufkd and Pauba Commis Wn r Stulberq ;arrived 9,-32 P.M. ME-MBE RS T: Commissioner Steigerwald STAFF 'R`*- Community Development Director Blair Tri mere Community Development Coordinator Saraccoria ChalrwOmdn Vasiliou, added artitem to the Agenda,, stat n that the Storer Cable application would be cortslderrd since the petitioner had the additional Information requested bytheommlssr.ori* NEW QUS1XE..SS hairw0mart Vasiliou Introduced the request for a 9PUD Filial MISSION OAKS PARTNERSHIP NPUPlatabetSiteplat, application for a portion of F19AL PIAT MD SITERPU., ;aticr requested that staff review thoM staff PLAN (A-338) report dated May 51 1982. i Staff stated that the area to be final platted is located south f County Road 9 In Section 14. The pet 1'ttotter p, o- pos s tO filrial plat area "F-31t of the approved PU Plan and has submitted site pari detarls for phase i (Lot 1) Block 1). Staff explained that the petitioner has agreed to plat the right, of-way for 41st Averive North with the 111*41'sSio t Oaks First Addition" F n4j Plat. Staff identified that the prOp€tsal involved a variance request from the Ordinance re- quiremertts for garages. The petitioner proposes to provide eltctr.lo plug-iris at the parking spaces avid additional, stor- age space in-.lieu of the required garages. i i i I 3 1 Planning 'ommissi"on Mintites, May 12, 1382 Page 127 Chairwoman 4 aslllou inquired if the City has encountered any storage problems In the exist*ng developments where arage variances were approved. Staff stated that no problems been encountered date, ;arid revfiewed the °terms of approval for the two developments. Commissioner 'dire confirmed that those developments involved housiI ng for low to 'moderate income persons. Commissioner Pauba ,lrreluired if this request, was addressed in the recom- mendedended ccanditlons of approval. Staff explained that Con- dition, No. 19 provided an area for the Commission to list the approved variances. Staff recommends that 4 minimum of 50 sq. ft. of storage space as required With the previous appl%oattons be provided. Further, staff explained that the pr vlsA'Ons allow for design flexibility with respect to setback requirements.. However, the provisions state that parking and garage requirement.; shall be provided as est ab- l.ished irr the Zoning Ordinance. _ Therefore, there* Is a variance from the garage requirements. Chairwoman Vasillou 'ntroduced 3oseph 'Thompson, 11705 41st Avenue `Mort Mr. Thompson= stated that he was spea irigforhimselfandasPresidentofthe "Mission Hills and Mission Park Homeowners As oolatl ra". Mr. Thompson summar- lx d concern -5 that the proposed develooment blend with the - existing heexstindevelopedareasarchitecIturdly, these units ere rental rather than owner occupied units. Also, Mr. Thompson expressed concerti about traffic e rculat*0n, indicating that it ' was anticipated access would be provided to County Rood Chdirwoma'A Vasiliou inquired how mane households had the same concerns. Mr. Thompson indicated there are 50 house- holds In the development and he reviewed that in November, 1981, the Homeowners Association met with Mission partners to review all anticipated developmentent plan . The purr was substantially in compliance with previous approvals, how - over,, the Homeowners Association was subsequently informed by Mission Parti,jers that firrarroing was ot aval.lable, there- fore, this project would not oommence. At than time Mission Partners lr di gated they would _ : work with the neighborhood for conformity grid compatibility of develop_ merit. Assurance was -iven that a berm would be provided for buffering purposes. ommls,$Jori Minutes M4Y 121 198-2 Page 128 Thompson e plained that at the last, 'Homeowner$, Association meeting l was indicated that a proposal had been submitted to proceed with developmentent this area. An additional >meeting hom been scheduled for the tie eow ters As at to discuss the anticipated dev lopmei-t. Mr. Thompson sumr arl ed the concerns about the pact of the proposal; access; adequate storaoe be provided In -.led of the garages* arid.,that the aria not aper as a "Junk heap'. Mr. Thompson requested that the Planninqto-mml slon direct that no access be a,owed canto 41`st ",venue Northl an that the action be tai-,Ied so the Homeowners Association can learn about the proposal and present to the Commission an Informed co ccensuz4 of their opinions. Chairwoman Vas l l iou iridicated that the Homeowners Assoc- iation ;should have a` chdnce to meet with the developer and review the application. MOTION by Chairwoman Vasilloul $econded by Commissioner Wire to defer action on the request for atc RPUD ina,l plat and MOTION TO DEFER Site Phaco by Richard Zjedlik for Mission Partnership for ACTIONIfissionOaksFirstAddition" until a special meetinq on May, 1982, so the homeowners can review the application. Chaarwor-dn Vasillou recognized Mr. Richard Zejdlik, pet.:l.t,lo;Ewer and Mission Partner. Mr* Zejdlik stated the net res,,:rlt: of the Motion would defeat the project as the petitioner~ is under a viristrained time schedule due to i finan,zitrg 6-adline of une 1, ;1982. Mr. ZeJdlIk explained teat tete Mission Partner did rake an effort to meet with the omeowners and he was Informed that he would; be coot act- ed when a meeting could be scheduled. Mr. ejdilk was con- tabted and informed that a meeting had been scheduled for a Thursday, May 13, 1982. Mr. ZeJdlik stated the proposal is in compliance with the approved: RPUD Plan and that the developers would not propose a project which would jeopardize the remal.ninq area to develop as otcl. Q of the total dwelling units are completed to date. Mr. ejdlik- explained that he and his partnera Mr. HarryJensenManageorortsimilarprojectswhichhavebeen successful. h r Planning i.ssion Minutes y U, 1957 Mr. Zejd1'Ak rearrested that the Planninct Commission take action t approve the preposaisubjectto staffs recommend- at'i,on for the sake of the project. It was state that the Proposal is 4 fulfillment Of oommitments, made many years agobythedeveloper. hai.rwoman Vasiliou recalled that the original Preliminary Plat was approved in 1975 and indicated that the Mis innPartnersshould' he aware of the need for nez. hborhoodrevlew. Commissioner mire questioned whether the timing schedule could he met ocinsadering the number of Items wh%eh ' must be submitted. for COMplidnee with theEngineer's Memorandum. Staff e pi,aitled that the pee it inner is present'.y working under a time frame established by the City Engipeer to have information submitted by May 941, V,82 In order for the eelraprerxt Contract -co be prepared for the May 4, 1952 City Council meeting* Staff explained: the petition progres- sed with the understanding that the fission Partners felt they could prepare the information within the time limits. Staff explainedrred that since 1978 several homeowners have 1sited the Cite Center and reviewed, the Mission R.P.U.D. plan,. In sale of the residential units, the developer is supposed to inform the purchasers of the PUD Plan* Staff ol&' tied that public Hearings are not required for POD Final plat and plan applications when h {y are cot, is teat with the previot,ts approvals, CorImi$szener Plufka expressed concern about the poor legi- bility of the graphics. Commissionerissioner Wire expressed concern that the s bmatt; d graphics did not :ideriti.y development forPhase11. Dennis Mulvey,, ``r. chi eot, explained that the Site Plan contains mucl) information, and the reductions are neat legible as to details such as grading. halr- orrrarr Vdsillou concurred with she concerns expressed. Derlrris Mulvey stated the approved POD Plan talis for 72. units and this particular area was, identified as a govern- Meet assisted project area. Phase 1 has been designed fnr 6 units, based on the ,amount of funding available. phase 11 cauld possibly be developed with market-rate units due to the current .lack of programs. Mr. Mulvey explained bermingisprovidedaridthatati=her of existing treses would :be retained. I PIdrini,)-rgommission, irtutes iy 12, 1982 Page With r rp(-.. t to storage spade, r.ulvey explained, the bt drdom w.tIts would have basements,, arta the -bedroom fjuld be orovided an ,attached storage unit. The omits w igrted with large walk-in closets which Is riot t pi- 4ided it! ->a4bsidi ed program housing. Y stated that the original PUD Platt showed art County Road 9. It wasrecommended by staff ' and nat-pint ounty$ to elilmindte this access; the petitioner in itlat d the aPPI cat !Ott would comply with the re ommendat i.o,. Staff explained z=!e t- Zfflc circulation pattern for the area, The County, °equi,r s that a"y access onto County Roadrustbenearthenestboundaryof, this site to align with the access to the development ort the north side; of the road. The petitioner elected riot to have art, access there. Access onto 41st Avenue is consistent with PUD' planning tohavetrafficdirectedwithintheprojecttoresidential streeLs which intersect, with dolledtors. Commissioner Magnus expressed concerti about 'how Phase 1 with rental units Lrnd phase Zi with owner-occupied units'would be interconnected for traffic circul.ation oMmissiorrer Ptufka stated concurrence with staffs' recom- mendat Ion to eliminate the access to County Road 9 end the dedicati.oit of right-of-way and construction of „41st Avenue North. Staff explairted the concerti that with loth accesses Otte to, County Road 9 and ' one to 41st Avenue North) - traffic could Circulate 'through this development as a "short-out" between County Road 9 and 41st Avenue North. Commissioner wire offered suggestions arta direction for further information. Spocificallyl, he stated he would not approve any variances for garages•, different landscaping such as Evergreens, should be utilized foryear-round screening, arid, more le Tele graphics should be submitted. commissioner Plufka irtdi,c itt- the lanning'oirrtrr iutt would abrogate their responsibilities if they, forwarded this appii.ca iorr to tree City Cotsnci is without resolving the u concerns. Chair hriah 'has l iou concurred. Planning, Commission Minutes May 1 x 1962 Page 131 Richard e * thexpiairrd . firtaninq agreement specifies that construction must commence by June 1, 19821orthefundswill. be ;returned to the United States Treasury. r. Mr. Ze3d1lik stated the application Ooritdins theuire t R arta the Pdrtn rshi.p feels they --art fulfill the timing sched- ule.. h d- ule. further stated that he would prefer the Commission reject the proposal rather than'table a tlar sn filial i.sz rt would be nt h .. di k apologized for the conditionsns under which the Commission has been working-, ow- ever, the funding schedule cannot be chanqvo. i Ch lmrrarr Vasiliau stated that in light of the Mayor's attempts to involve tI OVIURlt , $be wanted to be: assured that the Yte ghtrurhood wa4 afforded an opportunity to review and discuss the pans. Commissioner Magnus ohfirm d that if the Commission deferred action ort the request the WPUCAIWI WCOUid rent proceed directly to the City Council. Chd"wOmdh Vasiliou cautioned the Homeowners Association's President for the Mission Hill4i and Missiou ' parks Associa- tion, ssocia- ti n, that if they did not talo 4dvantdqe of the oppdrtu t.i t to meet with: thio developer to discuss the plans there would, not be a second chance. Commi,ssi nex WIrL reminded the President df the Homeowners' association of the timing concerns of the dei leper Mr* Thompson stated that the Homeowners Association would meet on Thursday, May 13t 1982. Mr. Zejdllk sugq s -I the Commission act on the petition contingent upon the p titiun- er and, the Homeowners Association meeting. The 0immisulorl, staff and the petitioner discussed the meeting ddt#s and r rair irrg irrf xr atiorr to b submitted before the application could he reviewed by the f"it Council. Commissioner Magnus called the question The Commission determined a Special ° Meetirig could be scheduled f€rr May 19, 1982 in order to discuss this petition. Plarartirt `o rr l.s$, .cart MinUteS. May 1, 1962 Pace 134 OTHER WS M SS Chairwoman Vasiliou explatned that the Public Hearinq for Hazardous Waste Processing faculty Ordinance larlaua e wailr,I hescheduled for June. Discu sion with the City Council, has provided direction that the actual amount, and requirements for bonding should be established In Policies similar to the Park Dedlcat lon dee :Policy. Chairwoman a l i ou summarized ttt t staff is cOrlt1nuirA9, to research potential bora inq requirements and that the or anti aftiorl of CLEAN is forward- ing an additional book for re earcl: materials. The Commission determined that no addlt lonal hearin rt')t .ices, other thart what is legally required (publ lcat f on of legal notice) would be necessary for the Public Nearing ortthOrdinanceAmendments. The Commission set the meetingin dates in 3une for Wednesday, tare 16, arid Tuesday, Jure 29, 15M Chaffrwotan Vasailou reviewed that in the future if the P n- r ing Commission desires the City Attorney's opinion, she Will cdrttact the City Manager who w"ll consult the Mayer before the Attorney is contacted. Chairwoman Vdsillou introduced the neat iter of business STORER CABLE continued discussion of the request by Storer Cable ommuni COMMt1NICAT ONScations 'car a conditional use permit for a tower ort their CONDITT AL USEsiteatthesoutheastcarter, of Vicksburg Lane and County PERMIT (82 18) Road 9. Site explained that tete Commission tad' recommended approval Of the s1te plan', but had deferred final action ort the conditional use permit at the April. 28, 1982'mee inq Commissioner Plufka stated ue would abstain from the iscds- siott arid voting ort this item. Chairwoman V4siliou recoqrtized Mr. Jim Behlin , Mr. Glen.. Hovland, and Mr* Rick Sather representit-9 Stormer Cable Com- rrturtications,She also recogni ed ter. Kett Johnson, Adminis- trator of the Northwest Cable Communication Comms-5510no 4 E P, craning Commission Minutes May ) 1962 Page 135 Mr. Hehling reviewed the P do ing oras is for concerns acid direction at the Apjj it meeting., He stated that a report would: be suLxnitted to the Cable Commission can Monday,. is 7 regarding the four rit rla which the Cable o mmjs lora had them. ; to, address* He stated that they had determined the quayt:y, of 's gndl would riot be sl,grtifiedntly, affecteJ with the use of a "super trunk" cable; but: the other three criteria were closely related* the timing of instal lat torr, the cost, and the future capaci t . He stated that while, the .timing of constructionion was no problem - either, the cast of construct 4. ng a super trunk in lieu of a tower and the potential r stri tior-s on future capacity were problems, He stetedt therefores it, had been determined there was a need for a tower ora the site. He also exp,l4ned, that ;vera if the other oriteria were riot prob,l r atzt.,al, there would still be a need for a tower. He stated a tc.wer is required, for "back per for local broa east- sis cls in ease there s damage to the cable; and there ,-• a 'need for a tower to assure red et1 , of ,*ghost .ng" of the .signal to the consumer* Commissioner Stulberg arrived at 900 P.m, Mr. Beh,lintg briefly reviewed the history of the franchise agreement arid theft presented graphics demonstrating a 150 ft. tower and d 100 ft -tower, with the perspective of a building and mature trees native to the He stated the shorter tower would combine anterinas and explained that the mature trees weave shown because, if they were located very close to the tower, they could present problems. Discussion ensued regardir,g height of Possible future structures Da neighboring sites; IaradseaPlsag of adjac rpt sitest- and the line of sight to Shoreview. Jr. Behling 'stated that, regarding line of sight, there was a possible future need for microwave antennas on the tower to pick; OR signals from the. main facility in Brooklyn Park. He reviewed a map of the northwest area showing the location of the Brooklyn Park facility. I f ADJOURNWNT lc..02 P.M*