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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 03-24-1982PLANNING COMSSION MINUTES C11Y OF PLYMOUTH A speel al meetinq of the Plymouthlannir ct Way" C,allr d> carder ire the Plymouth City Center at 7. -In P.M.by Chairwoman vasillou., MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairwoman vas! 110", Comm, ssi -ners MEMBERS ABSENT: Commissioners Steiqerwald and Plufka. STAFF PRESENT-. Community Devi=lopment Director, Community Development Coordinator Sara McConn lanninq Secretary Cry, ce Wineman Chairwoman Vasiliou innounc: d that a tour through thed l ANNOl1N E N S Correctional 'a illty 4s scheduled on Saturday morn nq April g 19,4z, Staff 80I1 PI-epare a memorandum confir rind time and date. Chairwoman Vasillou also announced the hearing to he held at the City of Minnetonka regarding thw Carlson Companies prod- cit on April S, 1952 Also, a joint neetinq between the Planting Commission and Parks and Recreation AdvisfY.- Commission (PRAO has been tentatively scheduled for IM, PUBLIC HEARINGS Chairwoman Vas' 1`i. t- ink -)dki d the first Item far nubli c CHARLTON COMPANIEShearireandaskedforreview- of the March 15, 19 Staff S. 3. GROVES & SONS Report. LAND USE CUInE" PLAN AMENDMENT ( 8200 ) Notice has b ---en published in the l al newsoaaer and roner- ty owners within '500 feet ha o been notified. Commissioner wire inquired vViel h the requidinq of this lar. from Indtistrial too m r lal btt dress wotild increase the seweVqe flow. Staff stated this would be the case; ;used upon proposed land uses, 'iowev r, the engineers will be study a nct the total district and their analysis, will determine whether this in- crease wat.ld deplete se -war capacity in another, area Staff indicated the i'ity Consulting Engin is analysis was based upon the petitioner's concept plan for the area and not st the pot is i.1 on r ` s ;l and.. Planning Commission Minutes March 74,, Page 56 Chairwoman Vasillou inquired of the Petitioner whether mar- keting studies had been done for the Proposed hotel site. Mr. James 3ohnston, 'representing Charlton Comnanl s stated they have had,a, consultant prepare a study because it was their opinion that the. next trsurg 'c of qrowth will be In ' the north"est. rn Suburbs, and they feel that alonq with their proposal for the regional headquarters faei;li.ty., it would he an excellent site for a quallty hotel- he added there is a second study underway at this time. Mr. Johnston introdtioed 1CepGepeErnst, Ernst and Associates. and qtr. Jim Fillippi, their consulting -civil ' engi`neer r. 3ohnston ` farther stated that Charlton Companies wants to create a Oliallty project for the company and for the City of Plymouth at till' qatewdy location. Mr. Ernst pointed ouL the lunation 'of the site, and exp lain- ed the "CMPUS Concept" 'with the existing corporate hul.ld- inq. stated their Plans will reduce the amount of asphalt by elminatinq surface par l.ng and r atlnq "green s ac-ell which will give the potential for recreation for the employees the area.He e pain d there will be" tacked" parking, some of which will he and rground# the off cfx buildings will be at the edqe of the site-, and, they are orienting the h l ldinq for " nlar" energy uses. He added that t -- P--$- Pond has a-n aerator,. ,arta U1,1115 would be-pro- posed iero- o ed for the new pondinq area. The concept allows for low profile buildings am they feel this site Is a key location for the proposed hotel fail kitty. Chairwoman ' a i.l.,lou inquired about the changes to the inter- section at Hlqaway 55. Stoff stated that the Cit;v is aequi,ring night-of-way, and will he done this summer, upgrading that Intersection. Mer~na Salmon, 10th Avenue flortht stateri that the S. 3- Groves site Is a mice part of the nell0borhood and she Is In favor of Viejr (:,oncept plan. Charles Youhatqul' t, R. L. Johnson Investment Comnany, in- quired about the, Nathan Lane access to the underground ar`kinq. Mr. Johnston stated they anticipate Completlnq a traff=ic study for the area and t:hcy will address everything to south Shore Drive and 13th Avenue and Wathan Late vvil.l be used. Pl,ann hct Commissionon i nut es March 24 , 1952 Page 57 3HarryCarlson, stated his business is located on CountyRoad 1A and he Is interested, because from the plan, it looks as though the hotel is proposed to go on his property. Staff stated it Is Important for the v titloner to show the pirate possible uses whichinclude the blanni,nct for the area and the hotel4, but; specific site alanni.nq for adjacentnt sites will take'; place after other land is 'reouided, zoned, and proposed for actual development. Only .land now owned by the petitioner is proposed for rectoi inn at this time. Commissioner Pauba stated his concern;' that the sewer oap„ achy is a sionificaht problem, Staff stated that stud d analysis of. sewer capacities will be completed before so ca_ if icy development clans take shape and the decision will be made whether there should be any "trimming" of tt t prDoosed plans and whetherthe dev to m ni as pronos d is feasible.. Comr issloner Wire inquired wheth r the "'finger of land" described in the- staff report as the adjacent industrial properties, is Included in those plans. Staff stated it is not included in the retiuidlno proposal at this time, but staff recommends hearings to determine whether those properties,should also be re ufided Mr. Johnston stated they are aware of the seer capacity problem and th it engineer believes :the City's analysis gives a conservative estimate regarding the increase in flow. fie' expal fined the development will be constructed over a period of ten years and they will. work with the City regarding the determination of seer capacity problems. Chairwoman VasIllou asked about the staging process for the project and Mr. 3ohnston stated they are now planning for completing the municipal procedures for the requidino and concept plane approval this year, and will also be taking Into consideration the "$ofty" commercial office= bdi.ld nq market" which exists: now. There is also the Issue of the, adjacent properties and this wi it all have to be resolved before any final plans are submitted,. Mir. Harry Carlso , stated his neighbor, _lir. Dick Borden owns the Circuit; Science B il,dinq on County Road Iii and they both are concerned that thxe not be "left hanoino"An re and to the use of their b i,ld nqs by any change: of the Lard Ilse Colne Plan for this area., Mr. Carlson was advised by the Commission to contact the 3. Croves 4, Sons Company abet; the concept pians and pos- sible future ts,,e of the adjacent properties* pla inino CommIssforl t4lnutet, Mai ' # Pate Chairwoman Vaslll a closed the Public Hearinq. MOTION ,by Commissioner Wi r r seconded by Commissioner Pabba to take action on this *-tm this ev ninq ate 5 ayes. MOTION carried. MOTION by Commissioner Wire, seconded by Chairwoman Vasiliou RECOM ND TION recommending approval of the request by the Charlton ons-o:l- A ldated COmP4nles for S. J. Groves & Boas Company for. a t.and Use Guide Plan Amendment from l planned industrial) to CL ; limited business) for property Located northwest of Hlghwav 55 and County Road 1. Vote 5 Ae MOTION carried. MOTION by Chairwoman Vasillou, seconded by Commissioner related RECOMWNDATION auba roommendl,np aporoval of the conditionsto the P and Use Guide Plan Amendment requested by Charltononsolr- da]ted Companies, Incorporated for S. . roves r ;ions Com- pany MOTION b ommissioner Wire. seconded by Commissioner '•4a nus to amend the Motion by addino _a 4th condition,, that the pro- posed development not exceed the current sewage, flow capac- ity for this area unless additional capacity Is found be available, ler, further analysis,_ as approved by the City Ztnfollowinq Vote MOTION to At,end, 5 ayes. MOTION carried. Vote Main MDTIOl once amended. 5 ayes.. MOTION earrzed. Mr. 3ames Johnston stated that he is concerned that the amendment to the motion may be rtstrictive to both the petitioner and the City EnqIneer In analyzinq the estimated sewer, flow from the project._ He does riot feel the increase estimated by the City Consultant should be ,least in Bement" and that it rs his feelinq that this nercentaqe will be found to t much less. Commissioner Wire stated that the project should meet the current requirements and not exceed the sewer capacity established fo- this area. 5t of f st ated the s will be studied by the Enqineering, Department. Chairwoman 'oman aslla.ou Introduced the next Item for public pESL.[.Y Fi4r,. Planning Commission Minutes March 24, 19521 a Chairwoman Vasillou called a recess at 10-15 P.M., meeting remnvened at 1O.Z5 P.M. OTHER 13USIN SS halrivom, a Vasiliou opened the discussions on the Hennepin DISCUSSION County Adult Correction Facility. Staff reviewed the March RENNET% COUNTY 9 memorandum. ADULT CORRECTIONAL Commissioner Stulberq stated it is his cpl.nl.nn that the FACILITY facility should be considered a non-conforminq use. Staff cited than the City Attorney's letter in response t Commission questions stated that classifyinq the facility as a non -con orminq use was not an effective aoproach. It Is likely that the'County could challenge that in court: and it is probable tViit the court would uphold the County. The City shoo,11d cofts ider working t hrou h legislative deans to addr ' ir' * at ? t, location, and scope of the facility. Commissioner -;,,*re concurs with Commissioner , tul,berg that t Is reasonable to, a sst n t tjls face l*ty use and the City must take a stand, Chairwoman Vasilit)u concurs, ;stat. no that It is up jo the County and State to tell the City '"'Ahy It won't work". The City needs to be iron record" with this decision to be incur- porated-in the Zoning Ordinance. Staff advised that if the facility is classified a non- conforming use, -.1t can. -lot be expanded on, nor enlarged, and variances cannot be granted.. The Commission stated this is their Intention. Commissionen, Wire stated that It should be added as another Subdivision in .Section 12, of the Zoning Ordinance to spell. ow; "cor- rectional Institutions" as discussed, providing that there shallbe no Increase of operations) or expansion to the facility which 'Will In turn control and .unit the number of inmates In the facility. Commissioner St l,herq stated that from a planninq standpoint this facility should he considered a non-conforminq use, The Commission dlscuised that further refining of the ianq_ ua e should be attuned to the fact that they do not grant to affect the regulations set out for such treatment facilities as detoxifieation,, drug rehabilitation., and facilities for battered women. March 24, 1 Pate 60 After further discussion the Co-gaK, rss'Lon addressed the two Points of direction from the City Council., and concurred that they have covered both ,points, that they are recoma mending that the Hennepin County Correctional. Facility be established as a non-conformi nn use*, ar d facility does have a major impact on the City wvh,ich as the reason for their recommendation. n. Further, these facilities should not be illowed in, ani zoninaIdistrict. ct. Itt was the concensus that staff should draft an ordinance amendment per the discussion, and< Commissioner Wire's sug - pestlon for the Section 12 placement. Chairwoman Vasillou ripened , discussions ' reviewinq the DESIGN REVIEW Hazardous Waste Disposal Facilities. She advised the CRITERIA FOR Commission that the Aqllte Site has been w1thdrawn but that HAZARDOUS WASTE the citizen's committee Cl4 Atli position is not to let this DISPOSAL FACILJTJES drop, but to continue developing regulations to be enforced by the Ci t v . Staff reviewed the March 19, 191i2 memorandum and the Cltv Council direction. Extensive discussion ensued. Commissioner Wire stated the City should rake a clear stand on tht. slt*nq criteria and have something written which will have the appropriate restrictions - to keel) these facilitiesles out of the Cit,, Commissioner Magnus stated someth.rnq needs to be 11p.at oz, the books" to repulat. these facilities, but that, -t7 City needs to reco ni e that future energy resources may depen on these types of facilities and theCity needs to reccq i e this as regulations are formulated. Staff reminded the Commission that the City Council has directed them to come up with criteria and .standards so that If a Plymouth site Is designated for hazardous taste dis- posal, there will be regulations and tight controls. Staff noted the provisions of the State Statutes on this ratter. Commissioner Stulberg stated h,rs opinion that they, should be totally prohibited, and that If criteria were met, the City could have such a facility whether wanted or not. Commissioner Wire concurred and stated that, between the Issues of prohibiting such facliti es or adopting criteria for their development, he supports prohibition. Meeting adjourned 1104 P.M.