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City of PlYpiouth
September , 081
regular* meeting oft snub Planning- Cumip scion was called to
oreer in the Coen -A i,.Chambers of the Plymouth, City Center
at 3400 Ply%outh Boulevarda P.M. by Cheirworman Vasiliou.
F,7gas
Magnus Paubal and ° en,ald-
ommissi ner Stulberq arrived later in
the fleet
MEMBERSR `, Commissioner Barron
AFF Community Development Dit otr Blair Tremere
Cot-,,imunity Development Coordinator Sara McConn
Planning Secretory Grace Wineman
MOTION by 0mmissioner° Steigeniald,seconded by Commissioner Wr .
br y nus she Correct ion those
R n reference V- two Cntf i f a ro- sal deleted j d r-
n!° the application of Mar u rit-e Schiebe for Lot Division/
Vi.Rrante- 5 sees, unanimous approval.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Chairwoman a i l i u opened the Public Ifearings and DON MYRON- F"'RELIMINVKY
announcedthe firstitem on ie aoonda. PLAT FOR LARRY LARSON
The Public Hearitig was published in the legal newspaper
and property ownars within TOO fent 4ere notified.
Reading h September 2 , T981 Staff Report was wa.
Mr. Don Vlyron was present,representing p ro Larry Larson,
he had no questions or -lomments. Chairwoman Vasilinu
r cogrtized Mr.Dennis Pledtke, 14425 30th nu.,, North
who stated he had no cormvits to make on this iteml Chairvivan
asiinu closed the public bearing#
MOTION by Cntvwi ss on r Poubai, seconded by Conmissioner Wire to
recommend a9provel of the prellminary plat for Larry Larson
of two, existing lots located generally southwest of County 9
and 70th kenue orbubje-c the following conditions.,
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2. A name k r the pr, -,,posed s a 1 be 1ded as apart`
of t ;,0 plat ,gip i m
Chairwoman s celled for the vote, 5 ayes. MOTION <.arried
armr rr Vasil, iou it r ,,13 d the next itern for DANA CORPORATION "SPICER
Puhlir, Hearing), hreading ptember 22t I 9ZI I ADDITION" - RUONING AND
Staff Reportwas waived. L T RPVY PLAN' (81054)
Rick Sathrer r est, Inc. wtho represented
he petitimer,, stated he had no s io s or . tints.
nolrwo r r. Vasiliou closed the Public xJoaririg.
As +hero was no further discusgion, the MOTION to act on this
itemonightws made, by Commissioner :Aire, seconded b
p. i err r'S (Age -m , 5 ayes, MOTION carried.
MILT IA by CommliqsiAner Wire. seconded by Copmnis0oner tZtei r wi -
to roco men pr -al of the pray t rr r' rr r €r
for *lana Corporation for "Spicer Addition" located s ;fth re
r°q Lane and flighway 55 subject to the following conditions:
I. Compliance with the City Engineer's Memorandum.
2. Removal of all dead or (twing trees from the property t
the _war's expense,
3. No building r ' s shall be issued tmtil municipal sewer
d water are phystcally available to the site..
thirty-foot Wase-meat shall provided along e
gest side V-ksbur Lane and i.n lioOutlot X, ,
foot wide, -,%ail easement shall be provided along the
scwth side of 'Iedine Road*
in. Envirommmtal Assessment Worksheet shall' be submitted
ori6nr to Inbmi.1tal of the final plat
rv q r fir min: mum. 'Floor elevations dor new structures in
subdivi ns :),r on sadjac,,nnt to, or containing
open storm watl r Xtra i ; age facility.
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NO buildingar ra s shall he issued:until the final
plat is filed and recorded wit Hennepin County.
8. The final plat application shall includea General Developnent
Plein dlemonstrk,tinq how Out i of S can be day l pa or _
ow the nrr
Chlairwot'r-taq Vasiliou asked for the vote, 6 ayes, MOTION carried.
Chdirviomaii Vasiliou introduced the next iter and asked ROBERT MIDDLEMISr
for staff's revise this nnlication. Staff reviewed E IMI T AND
the September 22,E 1981; w epoit, ,aNCE FPO, "MERRY
n'. Public Aar nti ilotire has been publ i shed in the legal
newspaper aad woperty ownerswithin 100feet were n tis -,
Chairwoman as j opened the Public Neai-k and recognized
Dick ,0r.. , 41 Wayzata Boutevar represent s nt req the ti i ner.
rMrsKrr introduced Mr. Robert Middlemist. Mr. Krier rade
his'presentation arra discussed hvariance requests which
ated are in order because " the uniqueness of Vie parcel
the particular physical surroundings; the "hardship" caused
the 'Plymoath Zoning Ordinance; noting previous approved develop-
wents, !n h,-% area, 04i proposal would not be detrimental to
tiie area; and traffic circulation was consistent with City plans*
Mr. Krier coomiented that the lot sizes as proposed are torr-
3istent with otherdevelopments in the,ireal.
Mr* 14,i r stated tboy had considered the rezoning of the property
to R - IB tlow density residential) D°o ri ,, however there wool
still' bq ire need for the variance requests and it is their.
contention that this parcel is surrounded by devf0opments
with higher densities. lie addressed tlhe drainage, whith has
been a concern, And stated that the wetland will not be
filled r drained ars e r ,ar si e erosion + ntrimethods,
at the back of the parcel. He further s at ; that traffic
generated wi 1 i be similar to what is qenerain neighboring
areas; and hat Vie developmentwill not affect light, air,.
r be detriplentalthe public welfare. qtr. Kri r 4tso stated
that rezoning mu "Spot onin " wtricar he considers
to be poor planning., He stated the parcel is ton small for a PUDIO,
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September 1981
Commissioner $eiqerwald inquiredby rezoning to R-iO was not
requested sine thern, are detachedr * Mr* Krier reiterated
that Variances under the existing 111- n i n would be easier
and would not b "spot, on n %
Robert 141udlentistl. 4140 Ximra.s Lane, statcl that his development
will rr ial to first h-tiehc-tie buyers as hois planning his
boxising will be. ia the erica range of $75,000: $100,000,
or which peop'ie who need bous`t'nq can financially oqalify.
He stated he ws. w-i.tc to develop land which. has Seger
constraints whit did not create,
Cr r viomnVa sI icy opened the Public Hearing.
Larry Docker, 2805 Revere Lane staged that he disagrees with Oe contentton
that: surrkoundiiig lots are T.Itall, and the development density is.h%h-
Ue s - that in his area most lots are larger and bom varies ars
higheri, lie stated i s concern about traffic and the connecting
streets r t are planned that will :1roduce more traffic and nuise.
He objected to tree opening of the Quaker Leas rnl d -sac., He stated
he has made a, Wq-`nvesttrant in his hotue and he is very concerned
about neoDorty values.
Chairwoman 'si l i on seated smaller jots do not necessarily produce
low value homet,- ,She also coavented that the`plans would ire
reviewea in t rms of the City Thoroughfare Plan.
Thomas Glodek,,10416 29th Avenue Noah, asked staff to expl,,Irthe
recotmaendations in the stw f naport. Staff reiterated tie
approades the Planning Comirission aOd take. r* Clod s --t" 2
his concerns :m the savie, as those voiced by Mr. Decker, '
he feels ,- lances requested are too numerous and that the
development does not east the Zoning Crditiance standards.
Steven * llom ,) 3200 Pilgrim Lane N,-. stated he wns property 'adjacent
to the Middlemist propert;, and he i s r,),pcsed to this developmer.t.
he asked questions about setbacks and -sked where the homes world
placed, on the lbs and he was concj rn d about drainage from
tlxproposed t vo pnnt, He suggeste-J felwrer lots be considered.
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Mr. Hoirne was also nce n t: with property values and commented
that the proposed lot e `are too smiffl.
Chairwoman Vasiliou noted that the ,,,flmt C.ntract outlines
the provisions for drainage.. and the Endl nee 's Memorandum .s l"
out the requirements*
Chuck r k sr d, 1021E 31st venue Re., stated h recently purchased
rn iYty nearby and is building a home. lie commented hip property is
sortth and east of the cul-de-sac oa Quaker Lane, n his primary
concern i -a exlkerd4nq the road to ;his cul-de-sac*' He stated
he bought the property because ? its quiet location and this
A plan will bring about increased... traffic and noise. He felt.. the.:
Cite should consider a change its the road location which
would still alive the area gond traffic circulation.
Ali hal at -ti ,. 10375 29th Avenue No, stated he had no c nts
at this time.
Ison Anderson, Jr., '1000"I Vnd Avenue "o., stated he is the
treasurer for the Tiburon Homeownrs Association and is speaking
n their beh
T,LMr. Anderson stated that Tiburon is z rind area r. LIO cowuTon ground
and open saes_,. Re cotTmiented that,last home sold listed for aboull
0,000. Re stated they oppose the Mid leer st d vele ilient.
Nick sch ider, 1425 Louisiana Ave.. No., stated he is a home builder/
developer in this arca ana he does not agree with the statements
made by, the petitioner as to scull lots and high density in the
area. Mr. Ldscha der stated that l $ housing in the area should
be al i t housing., his opinion that higher priced homes
are selling better than lower priced homes. He has s rvi Y d
economic downturns and would not consider building "Junk" Just to
ma%e a profits
Ken Moland, 3102 E. Medici ne Lake, 81,vd,, stated he is representing
the church property whi.:h is adjacent to the Middlemist parcel.
He commented that Mr. Midt;lemist had approached thewt sell hire
a portion of the church's property t t ey have no intention
selling the land in the near td tate they ars also
concerned about the traffic low.
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Alannsr ,, 3061-A Quaker Lane No., a ed he Dens property near*
the 'proposed development and the smallest lot he owns is 16,500 1
q.k , wi three l ° ,Ht sn ti
rn u e roa w e4 1 n and trafficpe erns, A
jqas his opinion that large, lots should be maintained to support lthe,wil4life and plantlife in the area. He stated be` had
consistently , ec ed to the 711"ho'roughfare GuidePlan for this
areand ite particularly obJ - s to apeningh Quaker Lane
cul-de-sac. noted the Tfu developmenthas a transiticl-
of eta cd homes., He stated Oe petitioner was "foolish"to
buy, t -his land on the basis that such extensive v i -Antes would
e necessary*
Barry Tot -man, 10390 29th Avenue No, stated he has the sane
concerns that have been offered by the other speakers,
Glad : Utaft, 3020 Quaker Lane, asked what the price c :v e of the
linpie proposed would be. Mr. Pliddlemist steed again Viat they
woul be in the $70,000 +1e $8b,000 price braLket., Chainvonian
sin advised thy- the developer is not torinOtted to a price
range at this point of developnent,, and that the Commission is
consideri:)l only the preliminary plat and variances and wi
not address building design* Ms. Vtoft is apposed to the let
size sr sed Sh s a paid much more for her I
and feels this is riot ' n r - where low pricusinqshould be
built*
Catiien Vethe,x0210 31st Avenue North,, sated she live!- close to
the proposed development and has the same concerns as other
speakers She inquired add; the start of cdnsrdion on
one home in the proposed devellopmeqt, area. irwo' 7 ar Vas A leu
called on staff ( C.Wient on this and staff stated a City
Ordinance ws construction
of
a home, on a lot with street
access and € t i i ies. The developer had receivedCouncil
appear 4Cstart this house even with a la` pending s i—t
to a wry en agree;cent for utility connections. No presumption
has '` been maae relative to any variaes- The present 'construction
s ae
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Les V.1isterberg, 10135 32nd Avenue moo., seated his concerns
are ,the swine as those discussed, and he' feels this development
is net consistent with other homes built in this area
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Septemberr 3 .; 1981
Charlene I:estrum, 102120 Asst, Avenve No.., again asked for clartfication
of the e range of the ems proposed to be built. t. Mr . MiOdlemisf,
again r>tated therungs would be $75,,,.00-11o $30,000.
Mir. MY "lea-tist stated bre doesn't 'build Junk" and he yakos pride
in the fc-mes lie builds. thin., IMiddlendst contended that the lot
sizes proposod are cbmzpatible with those lots to the north and
south of his property. He sltated,he too` was concerned with
vans $, and he cited his experience with his"Lo a' 'e Woods, °
development where thane is a range of prices. He stated this
s a problenn. site and the economic issue is pricing Boas so
peop7e can qualify for financinq, lie stated his circulation,
design reflects City Plans, and he t,,muld prefer riot to have a
opening the Quaker Lane cul - -sac.
Rod Wstrum,, 1022M 31st Avenue Il ,*, stated it his opinion that the
City of Plymouth has done a good Job with Va nin for opec Space
but that this proposed development will l im4t open space for the
people who will live there.
k r na Lewis,,, 2nd livenue North stated her concerti s for
the moded areas and would not like to see this tompletely
I-Juil4t over., 14r,, 11fiddletmist anzsuro.d 411i4they wail 'Move as
few trees as possible.
Chairwoman Vasiliou closed the Public flearInq*
MOTION b,Commissioner; t i rw., seconded rsa.ami s ioner eine to
defer action on t:ais application t r~, pr" is rn,F plat ars
variances,, and that the petitioner be directed to make application
for rezoning -IBS which will b ons- i d .l -; concurrently with
thIts, petition.
Roll_ Call Vote, 6 ayes, C.d iss n r St "bar , Ao justarrived,,
abstained. MOTIOIN carried.
ram ssion r Wfire stated the petitioner should reanalyze the lot
sizeq an & a1 rc mi the var* sakes m. C"Op aai si over Steigemald
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It was notedthat the rezoning petition will involve a Public
Hearing ` and notices will be sent.
Chairwoman si g mme el.that those citizens concerned
with the traffic ,problem, ou i ss i th's
Thordughfare Gaideplanwith theIr elected officials.
Chairwoman Vasiliou called a 10 minute recess. Meeting €gym
at 9*00 P.M.
ChaiiNionian Vasiliou inlZxoduced the°sten as a DEKOCO COMA - PRELIMINARY
Public iii and asked staff to revise the PLATIVARIANCE (WO)
September 18, 1981 Staff Report.
A Public i'learing Not i e has been published in the
legal newspaper and property owners within 700 feet
have been notified.
M -c .,
O- 7035 Wl Blvd., represent -ed the r t€tuner
and gave a brief present ati on* He introduced Mr. Dein ` . n
purchaserl Bob Thane, Engineers and, Ed Hawk. fie stated that
and Mrs. Rod Brannon ware present and their interest
in the situ is a possible location for their business,,
Solar Car dash"
Mr. Gair presented graphics and discussed the correspondence
relatinq to the variance requests. He stated the curb cuts have
been mininoized and the designated access provides gond trafVc
main. He stated the ti-nr giants to market, the laid,.
He stated individual 9 - uses require less site area than the
sig `$n£ require-nes n hisjudgment.
petitioner wants tmaller sites for the individual 8-2 uses h
feels are viah1e.
Chairwoman asi li opened the Public Hearing.
Mr -George l i s, 3620 Trenton Lane,, rep)resentinq the MlidEasv
Plymouth Homeowners Association stated their concerns with
possible and proposed uses for this area, su h as the speculation
that there b six 1st an s and n i i n , i n the
space of one-half pi e,, which in his opinion becomes a business
strip" and does not fit the plan for this area which is a- gate-
way to the City.
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is) i nr;Steiger-okild commentedthe drainage for the site
and asked for the location of the pond. The petitioner's engineer
dnsviered.4nd described the ponding ares.,. Comnissioner I -lire recalled
that the City Council Minutes gave direction regarding r tins*
on t1hie, Neyer-Gonyea partel adjacent to the east. Staff verified
that Council directed that the curb tuts be part of thesite
plan r views
Mr. Rod Brimion, 1622 'innsbruck Parkway,, stat -ad that- he had slides
regarding the "Solar Car Wash" business if the Commission would
like to view, thee.
The i m ow s ` sir _ tmss is. l isss
specitic tises at is, titne. This hearing is for prelimit ary
plat y and hinked Mr. and Mrs. Brannon for their tc-r s
in the proceedings.
Mr. Landwehr stated he represented th ownership of the lands
church still bras fee title interest. e s f ated ire was p r ua e
by the Brannonis to colmleruce platting s the land ,afi be, e
for their use and Queer m er ! al uses- fie stat,(,: I he had
recnived numerous, inquiries and would like provide smmlller
is usss are fterested in-
eAtip
ChairwomanVasiliou cl osed the Public Hearing.
IM,IMOT10,11 by Commissioner Wire, 44;,conded by Conralssoner Stulberg to action
on, this item,'this evening, P110TION passu unanimously.
Cen.missioner Magnus inquired whether there had been ars effort to
incorporate it wi the Meyer-Gonyea acrdfor Rockford Square
sites. Mr. Landwehr answered that the other developer's had
shown no interest i rrncor ora `i their developments, stated
that because o tura r ad4a s r had need cooperate
with i proposed deTelopment.
a r who also represents Meyer-Gopyea, stated the final plat
was heing prepared for the land to the cast,
F PIr. ar w r l s stayed h a analyzed the i s g err s proposeds
residential developitient in Che areq, and he believes there is a
need for fast food restaurants.
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maiwn 11Y Commissioner Steigerwald, seconded by ChairwomAn Vasiliou
to r ; nd a ria. for the liminar dr ekoc
Company located in the northwest tl a rar
County Road 18 subject to the fol cu :x nq and i n
I. COMIpliante With the City 'Enoincer Memorandum.
11 of all dead or dying 4- re. at 1, es fror, '16-hre property
at theowner's expense.
1, No buildingr be issueeduntil runicipal
sewerand %ater are physically = the site.
4. 1"ayment, of Parkdation fees-in-lieu of dedication
n accordance with the Dedication Policy In effecta
the time of filing }' 'Ube final pTato
5. l l ante withr Council Resolution No. 79-80
regarding dr elvations for neer structures and
subdivisions, or on sites adjacentn n ain n
any, open storm water drainage < ; .
W No building perinits, to be issued until be final plat
is filed and recorded with Hennepin County.
7. The .final plat submission should, include a final plan
which provides a more unified and cohesive development,
The approved lot width a ri ince of Q*-S feet for a
lot _width of 137.5 feet for Lots 1 and 2.
MOTION by Commissioner fir t seconded by Comi.issioner Steigerwald
to AMEND`by adding a 9th condition.
All conditionaluse permits will ' v wd on tlixiei r
individual merits after final plat approval, V-*iter the
site plans.
ner Steigerwald stated his ;original Motion does not endorse
any. specif ic u
Roll Call Nuts} 5 ayes. Commissioner Wire, Nay. MOTION carried'
Roll Call Vote on MAIN Wl"ION once AMENDED,, 6 ayes, Commissioner 14ir ,, Nay
SOT IOC carried.
r ion r° I-lire stated hiss negative votes were based on his opinior
there i' no justification for the variances,
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NEWI BUSINESS
O r n si l n rod d the lir t item o IS CONST
Plus n ss The reading of the September*= "'3. 198CO. - PUD FINAL AN AND
staff r ,,.port was waived. PLAT FOP, "D RA E11
IL
Nleil Weber o Schwarz/Weber Architects r rc.; n
the petitioner,,,, r. Bernard Bari who was also present*
t1r. Weber addressed the Septembe, 21, 110.81 Engineer's
Memorandum andthe, items which, were checked "nn"
lie stated that number is no problem; and per number
plans will 'b submitted the end of thisweek. Number
was taken care of earlier. Number 10,, permits`,, wi l i be
resvd numbers r r s shown on b r
plans; numbor 16 willom i d with-, number 21 is not
clear as to the intent; and n ember 22A requires, to
i b is not needed since erre of the condtions of approval
is that no permits can be issued until seer and YtAer are
available to the site.
Mr. Weber stated concerns with the requ-Irement of item no.. 14 of
the Engineer's Memnr n m. fie said the status of Abe existing
outlotr i t d : rsr Ila He
cited a letter from the planning stiff requiring the outlot,
oe incorporated within the plat per Council d r ctio , and
staf'f's objections to the, original submittal which did not do
that. He noted that now the requirement is to have a separate
Ir lot for street purposes which is virtually the _same as the
original submitted.
Chairwoman Vasil i recommended that the petitioner's concerns
relative`to perceived smisdirection and misinformation, b put in the
form of a letter to the City Council so, they aware of any
problems. e stated that technical engineering matters shouldbeclarifiedwiththeEngineerpriertoiheounemenq.
Mr. Bernard Barr contnented he feels processing this application
has :taken ton much time. Chairwoman VasIliou responded that
the`plan"review process had been working well for complete
applications wbie were in order~ per checklists,, Ordinance
requirements and Council directives. She suggested conCerns
about undue delays sa d s be adreed b letter to the
Council.
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eptevnber 30, 1981
PM f 0! i ne 'dire, seconded byai ssi Deer St ei er
to recommend approval for the PUD final plan and plat for Wwry Hills
Construction Com for " eer en`° located south of County Road,10
and between Deerwood Lane and Zachary ,.ane subject to the following
I. Compliance with the City, Engineer's (ilei,llor ndu',
2, Submittalof required utility and drainage e meet
as approved by the City Engineer.
3. Submittal of easements and grading plans for approved
trail corridor.
0 buflaing perfaits to be issued unil the final, play. is
filed and recoi,ded with ffk=epin 'County.
S. The Ordinance rezoning this property b l be published
aeon evidenC-o that ube final plat has been filed and
recorded with He nne,k n County.
Oudot hal be deeded to the a t a for r purposes;
3 -foot wide trail easement shall be provided along the
tie t side of Zachary Lane and the trail shall, be properly
improved in accordance with the Park Dedication Policy; ick,;
thus, Park Dedtin requireerrients are satisfied for
the PUD*
7. Grading for the trail shall be done with thee., plat grading
and the surfacing of the trail shallbe completed prior
to issuarice of building permit for Lets 11, 12, and 13.
8. Removal of all dead, or ming trees from the property
t t..owper's, expensr.,--
9. No building permits shall be issued until municipal sevier
and water are physically available to the sites.
10. Street nares and numbers shall comply with the City's
street naming system.
1. Compliance with Policy e tin No., 79-80 regarding
developments adjacent to, or containing storm, water Molding
facilitie #
I ome m,er i t ion documents and covenants shal* be
re wed and approved bye the City Attorney.
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Roll Call vote, 6 ayes, rriviluil carried.
a rw*mart Vasiliou Introduced the next item., reading OLP CONSTRUCTION MPAI .
of the September 18, 1981 Staff Report was waived SITE PLAN FOR NGST '
INC. (81040)
ftr. Brent Nelson, represented the petitioner, and
Mr. Card Lindstrom was also present. Mr. Nelson,
stated his question regarding number 4 of the
Engineer s Memorandum addressing deferred assessments
andr sewer,. Chairwoi,.ian Vasiliou recommiended
thy -6arify thiswith the Engineering Department
before this itera. goes o„- e City. Council.,
Commissioner 1 r `s concern wa s regar0i ng the
ins dd d areas and whether thert was assurance
these areas will be kept up and ozaintained. Staff
stated that condition number 9 in the staff report
addresses mai4itenance and suggested that the w rd
Hand” e a (! d to read "shall be maintained, and
free from noxiouss p ant t atr a s`.
MiOTIORL by Coissioner Wire, r, seconded yjilg i ss r cn r Pauba
to recommend approval site plan for Volp Construction Company
for U nd trcm`s lo^ated at 9621 10th, AvenueNorth "east of
County I 'I, rid sdb, ons w
p Tante Ath the Engineer's Memorandum.
44, Payment of Perk Dedication fees -in -lieu of dedication n
accordance with the Dedicatlon Policy in effect at the
time of bvildenq Permitissuance*
3.
1 All viaste and waste containers shah be stored within
the 'structure ger submitted plans to be approved by
the 4ullding Official,,'and no outside storage is permitted*
T! entrance r: and` fire aussastd
No Parkin - Fire Lane".
4 Submission cif required n nc i s a nte for completion
of sitec Tyro eme is tamed 1 -or -4 flqonths.
a Any signage, shall comply with the Ordinance.
Submission of required ora nage and utility easements
as approved br the i t tngineer.
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8. Rern*val of existing structures
9, The site area not otherwiseimprovk--d shall be maintained
and free from noxious plant materials*
Roll Call vote, 6 ayes, OT' x,arried.
Chairwoman Vasiliou introduced h next i ii reading VOLP CONSTRUCTIONCOMPANY
of the staff report was waived. SITE PLAN/VARIANCEPLAN/VARIANCEFOR
Mr. Brent NPIson represented tha petitioners and -'
Mr. Dave PetersGn arra Mr. Dennite Wlatt, owners,,
were present. Messrs, Peterson and
inquired as to which variances :had been approved.
Chairwomanwom Vasil ou st tia-that rib verb ices were
apn1roved at this p in and variance-,tX,ecaval would
be part of the nms ior' rd ,i s to
C + Covincii.
Messrs. Watt and Peterson addressed the Engineer's Memorandum
and s propertyust be
hooked into the Citystorm serer. They ;stated their building
was built per approved plans in 117 -1975 and because the now
codes and r T re Mants, i t i s ne ruissary for= them to request
varianecs gey .stated tb, - hos never been a drainage, probletti,
on the site bib is below s.agara Leas and 27th Avenue. North
and has a natural eater floe to a sw,tie northeast of the site.
They, inquired why qhb ri v building which etas just
constructed last year was not required °fib hook-up to the storm ,
drainage system. They bare concerned about tiadditional
expense to book into t Ie storm sewerand felt' that natural
drainage would be better.
Commissioner Steigerwald inquired why the Engineer's Memorandum
requires this site to hook into tha stony sewer system,
while the neighboring building was apparently net re uircd to do se*
Staff advised,it is City policy to require store sewer
connections where sewsr is availably, and the building to t b,
north perhaps did net; have sewer available since the sewer
is in 27th Ave, No. The City also has approved plans which
adequately demonstrate controlled drainage on site i n l y ou of
connectionto the st r kt sewer system*
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staff noted that the Engineer's Vlemorandum does nit require con=
nection to the City storm sewer in the suet; a.1t,* her., the require-
ment is for an -%n-sitp catch basin and pipe to direct the drainage
to the approved t1rainage area* The petitioners stated, if that is
the purpose,, they .'iays no objection.
StallY recon nd=gid the petitioner clarify with the Engineering
Department tei r questions regarding the; necessity of hooking
into the storm w a er Sevier' system, but nosed that Engineering
may be concerned with the building addition which `f increase
he area of .ger vicu surfaces se that land ' is not available
for natural drainage, and absorption.
Messrs. Watt anu Peterson stated their concern abotst Item No. 21
of he Engineer's Memorandum c=iib requires concrete curb and
gutter in the newar ng lot. They, stated they do not have
concrete curb now, and putting it in would serve no purpose as
the rest of Vie lot will not h ye curbs and gutters. They
advised that there is natural drainage across the parking `pct
and putting in the curbs and gutters might disrupt this natural
drainage#
Commissioner Wire m r that the Engineering Departmn
see.a problem with the additional asphalt and larVer building
and the Commission cannot make a judgment on technical requirements.
hsuggested °Vhe Petitioners discuss this with the Engineering
Department for Ori f c at i bn3
Staff believes that the t,tb items are connected, with the curbing
directing drainage to the catch basin.
Mr. Brent Nelson stated he feels their design provides adequate
drainafle.
Commissioner Steigerwald need that the Engineer's Memorandum
ices state that the curbing is for drainage ccntroi and furthA.r
explained teat the Commission does not act an such variances
but = gives. recomme da;'. i ons to the City Council to cQnsider in their
action. He asked that the Minutes reflect the petitioners concerns
and that the petitioner was given direction to discuss them
with tyre rig nee,, - n epartmei; before thisapplication goes t
City Council.,
t4WION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner
tigerald to recommend approval -dor, site Stan and variance
for Volp Construic:tion Company, for batt -Peterson, Inc. building
addition locateded north east of Niagara Lane and 27th Avenue North
and subject to the following cend i u: ons :
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1. Compliance with the Engineer's lemor¢a du.
2. All trash storage shAll be provided within the structure
and ria outside storage is permitted.
Sub Mss"I'rr of re uire .ondal guarantee for comtion
of the site r eA er-wrmed for -months.
4. No additionalsignageis approved.
Approved variances include the request er the parking
setback to a 'buil 4q G feet); the request to provide
15 feet rather than 20 feet for a setback from parking
to the east property line and elimination of the
traffic ' delineator, and direction is given to the
petitioner and staff to clarify iters numbers_ 12 and 21,
in the Engineer's Memorandum tNrior to the Council meeting.
Mono by Commissioner Pauba to AMIENDcondition 6 by removal the
variance for elimination o the tra i e delineator. el i hea r. The MOTION
died for lack of o second.
ha i rvrumarr as €tau called for the vote on the MAM MOTION,esu
MOTION carried*
ha nloman Vasiliou 'ntroduced the next iteral reading of the RYAN CONSTRUCTIONCO.
September 18, 1981 Staff Report was ' waived. SITE PLAN/VARIANCE FOR
BURNET REALTY` 7047
Mr. Steve Kingery, Ryan Construction Compary, stated he
had re viewed the StaffReport and had no qijestions#1
Chairwomran V si l sou introduced Mr. Stuart Finney, representing
the Pl m €nthRacquet Club. Mr., Finneystated that. the
Racquet (1uh (1uhas some --erns relative to parking, access,
and possible trespass across their site.:
Staff stated that the' Racquet Club initially bad problems
vehicles cutting through Jr m the Temroc parking lot and
a the Racquet Club site.
Mr. Finney stated that the Racquet 'tub it concerned they will
have theL sass r h r with the Burnet hu f l r and
will have to erect some type of barmier. They feel this is
an unnecessary expense,. They do not want any "overflow" parking
from the Burnet building n their property.
Alft
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V;r. Finney commented on the question of refuse storage and where
on she site -.t would be. located. Coaqaissioner Steigerwald
advised that refuse storage would be inside the bt.41ding a
required.
Finney stated the Pacquet Club is co:&cerned that the Burnet`
building ;,il l not have fireat . the Racquet Club
was required to have fire lanes and it wou,d seem possible that
the Fire Department would use 16.hf; Racquet Club fire lanes and
pat--kinglot if the necessity. arose.
Cho rw n Vasiliou stated that the Fire_Marshal required the
Burnet building be sprinklered and this meets the Fire Code
regulations r ata the fire lanes.or all sides of the building
except the rear..
Mr. Kingery statedhay, they have redesigned the parking so that
there is only ''one<a e s to the lot and the number of parking
stalls are pe- the b,,-ilding square footage. He reiterated that
Pdi qviii be s rin i r d, and they will be adding fire h d an' -s-
He also is ned that their variance request is necessary because
of the w d ning and upgra.Aingof Cheshire Lane.
Staff stated that in regard to Cheshire Lane the compensation
was rade `for the right-of-way, and i was staff's opinion tha°
ther )tig !ZaVout could beput in without a'rianc s, however,
this is a designonsgd rdtiia 0nee it relates to the size o
the building,*
Chairwoman Vasilicu stated that it is apparent there could ` L
a problem with overflow paring onto the Racquet Club In
Staff cot%,. gated that the problem coming from the Temroc area
was the fact there was no curbing Installed,, and that curbing
will b installed for the Burnet parking lot. No design can
guarantee that some driver won't try to cut through, or park in
the Racquet Club lot. However,, ; the access ti the Burnet site
should dis nu r9e this.
n nissfdn r agnus stated ha i driven in is a(Highway
65 and `hshirrnbro Lanes) and accessibility is nd
stated Real Estate Offices can generate substantial' traffic.
Staff stated thathel engineers have studied this ,problem
and feel: that people will realize that to easily, access businesses
n the east side of Fernbr• n , they should come from the south
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Mir,.`Kingery stated that as a Real Estate Office, the traffic generated
should not be high, Nit because of the location of this site. any
bus4nesi going in``het,e would have the sears problems.
Commissioner Daub#, cotmmented thatReal office' near
his -affice qenerates vry littip,traffic
Staff reviewed Oe history of the Burnet site,,. noting that it i
reninant parcel in a 6-3Zoning i st r i , and,the use. s
eo ns l
N by Commissioner Steigerwald, ' seconded mm s n r Pauba
to rnd approval for site plan and variances for Ryan Construction
Companyfor Burnet Realty, located sir e s Fernbrook Lane
and Highway subject the following conditions:
1. Compliance w i° the E n i neer's Memorandum,.
2. Payment of Park Ded-icattion of o Ali n
in accordance with the Dedication Policv;in effect
at the time of building pernift issuance*
3. All assts and waste containers sural l be stored within
the structure per submitted pleas to be approved by
the DOI U- Official, and no- outside storage is
r " t d.
Submission of required fin nc urn for completion
f site improvements termed for 24 -months.
5. Signage hall be inst Iled per approved plan.
6. " area not ;otherwisenvd s maintained
and shall free of noxious weods.
the existing advertising sign shall be removed at the
d v l is expense prior to occupancy of,the building.
The " :ung shall be constructed with an.auton.atic
sprinklet systeti that complies with N.$%P-A. Pamphlet
1. in SW4-faction of City Code Fire Protection
r u r mints relativeto the Fire Lane variance.
9. Approval f r two variances for 5 feet from h minimum, parking
Setback requirements,
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