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City of plyll.outh'
Jane 2, 1991
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The regular meeting of the Plyviouth Planning Commiss4on was called
to order °art the Council rharibers of the Plymouth City Center a '
3400 Plymouth 8oulevard a P.M. by Chiirwoman Vasiliou.
Larson, Steigerwald and Stulberg
M IF -,l 3 11:, A rs SE Commissioner Barron
PRESENT*- Community Development Director, Wair Tretmere,
Community Deve` mn Coordinator, Sara NQConn,
and Planning Secretary, Grace err er an
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M0f:.,N by ommission r S ei erwa d, seconded by Coamilssioner Stulberg a
o approve the 111INUTES of june .0, 1981. S Ayes Commissioner Larson
abstained., MIOTION carried.
PUBLIC HIC-VINGS
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Chairwoman Vasil ion introduced the fi rst item and reading of the MIA ICE M(,'AFFREY
Dune ) 1981 Staff Report was waived. 11
EAS TWIRTH-
SHORE TOWYOUSE
Staff showed slides of the gen,)ral area and nommen;ed that the DEVELOPKZINT
developer has preserved much of the landscaping and the laid- REVISED PRELIMINARY
landscaping approved earlier has been put in. Commissioner RAT, SITE PLAN
Larson questioned staff about the concerns on drainage at COWTIONVAiL USE
the northeast cornea of Lot 12, -eferring to item nn* 22-3 PERMIT, N PLAT
of the Engineer's Memorandum. Staff advised that these will A-752)
bo addr sled prior to - i l i n the final RLS* High eater and
drainage easements,exist and the new construction is within
Lhese easements.
hair°wo3 an Vasiliou declared the public Hearing open.
Mr. f4cCaffrey stated that he has mat with Assistant Engineer~
John Sweeny regarding the Engineer's Nemo..
There was no one present to speak on this item, , ha i rwo an
nasi lea declared the PuMic, nearing,closed.
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Planning ` m ssio Minutes
Juno 24, 1931
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MOTONN by C.6mmissionor Pual seconded U, i i e 'dire art on
petition tonight. 6 ayes. r` 1 CARRIED.
OT 03,!, yfmvtu ssi r Pauba, mondend by Coiomaissioner steicerwald
4 recom;merrlainq approval of revised prelimtinarlat, site ,'- n,
conditional use permit and final i for Maurir,.e -M r 's
I'Gleason Rorthshore Totinhouse. Development" orated north of
Gleason Lake and east of Dunkirk an and, subject the following
conditions. - i rrs.-"
to fiance with the City Engineer's Mewodnduta. 1.
2. No building permits to be issued until the final plat
r Registered Lard Survey is filed and recorded with
Hennepin County.
0 The developmelqt is suhi ect to previous approvals
site plans and V t. Contracts r Council
Resolutions -577, 77-578, and 77-579.
The amended homeowner association hylas sh.ll be
reviewed and approved by the City Attorney.
5. A y lardscaping inaterials displaced shall he re-
located and/or replaced o the s , ,.o, in kind.
Roll Call Vote. 6Ayes. tIOTION carried*
The s oo d item was introduced by Chairwoman Vasillou, the reading OWRY HILLCON-
of the done 17, 1931 Staff Report was waived.. STPUCTION COMPANY
1D a1«i MAVEN t
ell airwoinen Vaefl iou stated that the Commission's discussion PUD PIELIMINARY
should cover the items listed in the staff report. PLAN, DRELP INAR
LAT, VEZONING,
AND CONDITIONAL
Staff gave a Kriel overview of the raoject explainingthat the USE EW471 (81011)
transition on the west side was one concern and Council brad
directed that attention be given to buffering, landscaping,
and type of units.
The two alternative site plans were discussed,, exhibited as
Alternate 'A' and Alternate W.
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Jund 24,
Paae 7
It i s explained that Alternate W" shows setback dlstanco,, o
65 to 90 feet f r o.m Deer~wo d Lane and four unit structures; Al ter -
I°t and
Council dir n for type of unitsuggested 2 units rec=ur s.
The developer feels the transition is a coinpl shad with the
unit structures because of landscaping, setbacks, etc* It was
noted that Council gage direction to PRAC on the possibility
of usingsome land for park eras - FRAC r o%mended that no land
be taken for park purposes- Where ie a requirement for a 30
foot trail corridor along Zachary Lane; staff explained
the in-pact on units 13, 14 and 15 if the trail would be acquired
by easement v rsus oralof dedication wi h is usual practice
for residential projects.
Mr. Bernard Barr representative for Lowry 14-Ills Construction,
questioned why it would not be_,eripropriate for the trail ( b K
located on the other side of Zar.harys ,s to eliminate the
problem f cutting Into the develapment. He stated concern
that the (b r of units had been red- cd a"t ready in response
ii, C,"Ity requirements,
Mr. 1,01 Weber, hwar z-tll b r ;rch l r is ad-Ire!;,sed the Cormaissivn
r Coors. 1 1' s direction that the 4 unit structury,s be redesigned
s two, ant brei ldings; Ustated the r as n fir the alternates
as keel, ntsand nrkas ":b sts of the site,
mne Com:flss,`i.-n with a ra it- t#iat there would be no
v is6al, changes.
Mr. itxber feels that providing the trail ky easement with set-
back variances is the preferred solution.
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Commissioner Wire asked whether in, Alternate '' the landscaping
id berming is bei rye, removed on the north? Mr. Weber stated
that this was not the case: 1 e gust didn't redraw the entire pian
to sh -i on this graphic. Cormilssioner Wire had some concern whether
the landscaping at the entreats on Derwnbd Lane will b a3q adequate
shi}-'d since it doesn't come around the corner as shown on previous
l at-16. Mr. fiber stated that this is a busy inters t n and
berm"Irg and screening could r srti si i l i : for the traffic
To rr area causinq a safety problem.
hairtramma.n Vasiliou commented that determination as to the safety
facto, s can he riad with the final plans which will include
detaiied landscaping*
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Planning Co.mniission Min tes
June Z * 1981
Page .
Chairwoman Vasilibd dilfired the Public Hearing open.
Sue Paxton of 11610 57th Ave. No. asked if theproposed size
of the units and the cost was the sage. 11r. Taber stated they were.
Mir. hick $en- of 55610 Eterga eis Lane st-ated he has attended many
of the meetings associated with eeveloprient in this area and his
main concerti is with the number of structures proposed on this
constrained piece of property, he feels it cannot stand high
development, and wants to see the density lowered. Densityis
the concern, not wh th r there are -unit or - rt t t.r ctdr s.
He does not aant to see any variances granted so as to preserve
green space between the buildings like that seen in the single
faalily detached area. He also stated feels Via land was
I not guided properly initially. He attended the meeting with
PPAC and feels. there-may have been a' misunderstanding as t
the recommendations from Council. die melt PRAC considered
only the low ground for open nature area and did notfully view
whether the higher area was suitable for park` purposes.
Staff read the Council direction and the PRAC recommendation
whics addresses both the wetland and high ground in the
finding that neither aro needed -or desired for public park
nresoso
Mrs Weber ans ror d neither l t rnato' ' mar requires
variances except and the east duo to the trail corridor.
Mrs.. Dorothy Krokelberg representing ; the development stated I
that she feels it is not fair that, they have to put the
trail in before the proposed units aro ready to sell, that
they, should be- allowed to PuL. the trail in actor the units
are built on that side. Staff advised that this is Council'
p li cy1, the trail is required to go in -with the initial
placement of streets, the amenity should already be established.
Mr. Barr said the City should put their trail through f,rom the
south first,, because it is his opinion that this area is in a "swartr`
and he doesn't feel the City can install trail hero, and
they don't want to put in a trail that has nothing to onno t
With Staff assured them that this isn't a nowhere trail, that
aoh ray taxa :will be upgraded and the City -is rears of the soil
conditions. Chairwoman Vas l iou reminded those present that
the l am ' nqo m i s i on does not decide trail corridor design
and Commit,sioner Steigerwald commented that trail placement is
City Council policy. Chairwoman ' asi iou cormnented she was not a
supporterof ll! the trail =system designs and especially requiring
segments which do not, -7onnect to existing trails.,
Planning Colta s ori Minutes `
June 24, 1981
Page 1765
Chairwoman ja i declared the Public Hearing closed,
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Wire tr- ,Ae action on this item tonight. 6 Ayes, V10111ON carried.
Pauba questioned whether the density distribution
of d bet,ter m!)y using the east high ground for some
u fts and decreasing the number of units in the t,orth area. Mr.
Wn vier was no* Commissioner`Pauba asked if this were
possible, Mr. vleaber stated it., is possible, but that Council and
Itizens, had strongly coj=ented on the undesirability of this
option.
Cov,missioner Wire stated that he can't support Alternate 'A'
because of the landscaping arldasked if somen id r ion could
be given to screening and shielding around the corner; fir. Weber
stated this could be dune, and the landscaping plan will answer
to all these concerns when sUbmitted' with the final plat.
MOTION,by Commissioner Steigervtald, seconded by ComsiIssioner
ul berg to recommend prov l for Lowry Hills Construction j
Company PUB Preliminary Plan, Preliminary Plat,, Rezonirg and I
Conditional esti Permit for "'Driav n" located southeast ,) I
n y Road 10 and Zachary Lane intersection and subject to the
4 f l ori n conditions-,
1. Compliance, with the City Engineer's Memorandum
2. Alternate 'A' utilized fora l di nus, I and ' .
3. Removal of all deed or dying trees from the property
at the owner's n n .
No building rmits sball be issued unil`municipal
sewer and vlaer are physically available to the 3ites.
5. n inj hfinalized`wi filing the final i,*
6. Street names and,numbers shall comply with the City's
street naming y et.
7. No building pernits shall be issued until the Final
plat is filed and recorded with nn in County.
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Planning Comm i ss i On leln t s
June , 1981
Page 177
Compliance with Policy Resolution number 9-80 regarding
d l Kiev s adjacent , or containing store water
holding facilities.
s .Asp c*gainxoadocuments andculvenantts shall b
vied and approvO by the, City Attornp.Y.
The 301oot wide trail ioorridor shall be p,,,,ovided cis
an easement alona Zachary Lane and all Park Dedication
requirements shall be fees-in-lieu of dd-#cap<ibn.
Commissioner Larson stated that he does favor the outlot and granting
setback variance. ``here was discussion of the fact: that no credit
ward Park Dedication requirenients will be available by easement.
Irx r agreed with mv is loner Larson,Commissioner
t gerw stated he did not favor reducing the number of units,
Chairwoman Vasiliou stated the matter of credit was policy
issue forhe. Council.
Roll CaTI'v ayes MOTIORMOTcarried.
b a i r n Vagi l inti introduced the next agenda item. ROBERT AND COLLEEN PORTER
REZGNINGs PRELIMINARY
The readling of the June 8,, 1981 staff roport was waived. PLAT, CONDITIONAL USE
There was discussion on the homeowners association bylaws PERMIT (81029)
regardirg tdiv addition of decks extending onto the common
ra
The Porters stated they had no corunents at this time but will
wait or questions from those in attendanae. Chairwoman Vasiliou
rand the public hearing.
Keith Ualters of 4115Fern-brook Lane spoke to his concerns
about the road being i d n d and the setbacks required for
his ' proJect. He also commented that per the drawing it looks
as i they are "stacking b i1 inq blocks one on top of another".
He cemented that the people in the neighborhood want to retain
the open ss of the area as their lots are larger. He is also con-
cerned
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e rn about Increased traffic and in regard to the landscaping
he feels not enough b r €i ng and screening is planned4 His main
b"j in is to the guantit units proposed and the fact that
there will tie one area rezoned differently.from the rest of the
area.
Char r-roman Vasilinu advised Mr. Walters'that the landscaping, and
berming will be dome t ; meet City requirementst and they are shown
on the pl ens o
ll annIng Comm.ssi on :,i nutes
June 24, 1331
Page 178
Delilah Stubbsof 4125 Fern -brook stated their home is on
acres, they love the neighborhood and like the open space
so she does object to having that marry units with families
whith w:11 also producenoise and congestion in the area*
Mrs Arthur Tombers, of 14312 County Poad 9t stated that the other
two speakers reflected his feelings; he lives 100 feet west of the
proposed construction and has large lot with single family dwel-
ling.
w lling. Ile stated that at one time he talked about dividing bis
lot, but was told this would be impossible. Chairwom.an Vasiliou
asked w". th r it was the City that told him this, and he. skated
k no, that it was people he had talked ,pith about it. C mmi s: ii on r
Wire stated that his lot was guided differently and staff advise!
that this area would be single family residential. Chairwoman
has advised r* Tombers to check with, the City to find out
what his options might in this case. Mr. Totnbers added that
he does feel that this proposal would puttoo many people onto
small area*
Mr. Bob Porter addressed the concerns of the citizens and assured
them, there will be" a benn on the saute side and that traffic
and noise areconcerns t he special n i rr to
is he will also lie there and will not be an absentee owner.
Ile stated that each lot will be 113 acre and the building
is fitted in to optimize buildfin to land and planned out
to conserve open space. He feels i ' is in keeping with the
id n area and the new development in the nes h er
heed* tie stated no, variances were sought and the iters noted
by staff wauld be corrected.
Mr. halters asked what hype of unit he plans,, ` r. Porter stated
he has'it formally decided and isn't committed to one design
at this orris. Mr{ Porter was asked whether the, would he
designed with tuck -under r ara es,and be responded that; this
has not been decided.
As there were no further questions or comments Chairwoman ' asil iou
closed the public hearing.
MOTION y Chairwoman Vasilliou, s -tended by Commissioner Steiger-
wad to recommend p rd a of rezoning, preliminary plat and
conditional us permit for the .912 zicrs norltheast of Fernbrook.
Lane and County Road 9 known as the "Porten Addition',, subject:
to thefollowinq conditions:
L Compliance with the City Engineer's Memorandum.
Homeowners Association bylaws shall he reviewed and
approved the City Attorney,
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Planning Pommission Minutes
Jena 24, 1931
Page 179
A revised site la shaft reflect im °
aru setback's to those units adtacent to, Ferritir- -iLeas
as part of the final plat application.
direct access onto County Road 9.
Landscaping plans fzhall be nodified to ideontify 251a
f the plantings as coniferolsspecies and f%
f the plantings to ho 3 1/2 caches in diameter., All
Daher areas not otherwise improved shall bl, studded.
Revised plans all : s0sm4fted with the Final Plat.
6. Removal of all dead or dying trees from, the property a
the vin r'expense..
7. No building permits to be issued until municipal
levier and eater are physically available to the si
3. Rezoning shall be finalized with filing of the final
I at.
9. FiY f she park dedication fees- - i dediciltion
in cr--.ordance with the Dedicationl i cy in effect a
lW tlme of filing the final plat.
10. No building permits shall be issued until the final plat
is filed and recorded with Hennepin County.
11. Submittal of ordi nanca required finandal quarantee to
assure tf it f *te improvements, termedfor
24 months.
Roll Call vote, 6 ayes. MOTION arried.
hatrwoman Vasiliou called, for a 10 minute recess at 8.35 *M*
Th meeting resumed a 3-447 P.M.
Cha*rwoman Vasiliou announced the next agenda item and the reading MINNESOTAMES
f the June 1.7, 1981 staff report was paid. RPUDI PRELIMINARY
LA t, PRELIMINARY
Chairwoman Vasiliou opened the Public Iflare , there was LAT$ CONDTIONAL
no one present to speak on this item. Chairwtoman USE PERMIT AND
a i 4 to asked the representatives fir. Goldberg and .11r. REZONING FOR
Holderness to make their cormments and answer a y questions MISSION HILLS PARK
from the Commission, 8TH A DITI N11
80027)
Setbacks were discussed, the Commlission wapted assurance
that the construction uld be similar to the others
n the Mlissi n RPUD. Staff verified that the Mission minimum
setbacks are 30 feet.
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page 180
Landscaping w s then discussed and Mr. flolderness stated
hberrtdn wi 11 be &ne if they don* t have to truck in
the materi al however he ,feel s there; wi 1 l be enough ma eri al s
on site.
i kr ss # finer Wire :.felt that berming and placement of some trees
should be done adjacent to our. y Road 9 and spoke to the fact
that Mr. Porter and Lowry Hills' Construction are being asked to
berm and plant trees. Mr. lolderness commented that these are
multiple family projects, whereas this would be for single
family. After`fur herd discussion, Chairwoman Vasillou stated she
felt it would' e unlikely that they would just open as;
they have done such a good J -6b with the lands L 1n the rest
of the Mission. 14r.. Holderness stated that it ii their in-
tention oer r, but he reiterated that it again would -depend on
whether 4t wo l d necessitate trucking n the material., and it
ill also depend on the grading plan. Corm-issioner Wire noted
that ' the beraiing and landscaping plans would be available with
the next step when they are sure about the availability f
materials and at that time the Planning Commission Goold
like to review free plansA Cera irwo d" Vasiliou agreed.
Commissioner Wire 'stated that be viewed the berming and land-
scaping
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cap ng as a trade-off for the PUD size /,riances granted this
development. He noted that the Deer - wood' Meadows Plat was also
expected to have landscaping along Zachary .ane; it is a single
farm ly de el opment.
Chairwoman Vasiliou cls the Public Hearing.
The Motion was made to take action on this item tonight; l
MOTION by Commissioner Wire, seconded by Chairwoman a si 1 i o
to recoiuqend approval of RPUD, Prelminary Plan, prel imi nary plat,
Conditional Use permit acrd- e o r ng for "Mi s ion III 11 s ars
8th Addition" located south of County Road 9 and 300 feet west
of Zachary ,ane, subject to the conditions in the staff report
dated June 17., 1931 and listed as follows.*
1. Compliance with the Elng* eer`s Memorandum.
2. Final plat submission shall inclfide detailed grading,
bearing, and landscaping plans for the area along
the south side of County Road 9 and designs for the pond
and open space areas.
3. The rezoning shall be finalized i ter the final, plat.
4. All dead or diseased ghees shall, be. removed at the;
developer's expense.
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Planning i -q'ssi i notes .
June 24, 13A
Page 181
S. No building permit shall be issued until utilities are
a+%hY 6P,RA y tova.i [TaFb ar W/ S#f -e $,ita-
Dedication of 30 foot wide cutlet for trail purposes and
payment of fees -in -lieu of dedication prior to filing
final plat per Council Dedication Policy then in effect.
7. Comwplance with RPUD requirements in Section 9 of the onin
rdinance for final plat approval.
8. Allowance of foot front yard setbacks so as to be c n-
s stem throughout the Mission, bevel rent*
Roll call vote, 6NOTION caer ed.
Chairwoman Vasi lou introduced the ,next item and the reading of REVISION TO,PLANNED
the dune 18, 1981 staff report was waived She opened the NIT DEVELOPMENT PLAN
ubl is Hearing-. AND PRELIMINARY PLAT
FOR OUTLOT A
here was no one present except, the petitioner to.speak. PLYMOUTH 14ILLS 2ND
on this item, Chairwoman Vase l inu closed the Public ADDITION"
Hearing and asked Mr. Frank Larsen to speak to tete Commission l Q 32) relative to the issues outlined - in the staff report.
j Chairwoman Vasiliou was, specifically concerned about the
t ouher of banks -if end Co ai ssi n has t b concerned about
the intensified bse of -financial institutions versus the original
intent of the Downtown Po ic, . She feels that it is now coming
down to a site to site development and that it would be impor-
tant to ask the City Council to review the intent of the approved
PUD Alar. It was also noted that the PUD should have internal cir-
cul ati cls and there should be urthar . consideration of the traffic
studies dune teat were based on the concept plan especially
s nc the, r nc looking a roan curb cats* the as, staff
for their comments.
Staff observed that the reason for perceived delays for
f this project has been the time required for review and eval
t cation of chanes: to the easter Plan. Staff explained that the
development process in UD's is typically> expedited or projects
conforming to the easter Plan since substantial planning and
analysis has already been cone. However, amendments to ,.he
ester Plan may, take time fear processing m aro le to the- heoriginaloriginalplanning4lMr. Larsen showed the Commission a color -
keyed plan dated 1977 and explained the residential areas have
remained as proposed, and went on to give the historical back- ac -
grundground,for she project.
Planning Commission Minutes
June 24, 1981
Page ,1 2
On the concerns re "s Bred about the' k be `
banks are a permitted use i the B-1 District and he feels the
proposal is consistent with the underlying on ng. It is b r
to have the pranks in office buildings rather than free-standing.
Ce noted that at one time the ordinance classified banks as
f conditional usor, but now they are viewed as permitted uses
cas are offices.
There was further discussion on the office building sites r -
gard :t_,traffic circulation,, and parking requirements.
Mr. Larsensen feels that because the office -space has been -.0
back this will alleviate the traffic problems to a degree.
Chairwoman Vasiliou commented that the traffic analysis is
7978 siudy and that perhaps there should be new figures made
available to update the plan.
Mr. Larseo stated that City requirements placed on this area
presented new constraints, setbacks, beniiirig, and parking
space requirements. He stated the approved easter; PI an is
net in"' based on 1977 ordinance standards. The pro-
po!iad amendmentsens are responsive today's requirements and
continue to provided open space. He stated that clustered
high rise office buildings are not as economically feasible
today, in that potential c, rora e interests are seeking
individual sites for their ovan buildings. r.` Larsen
suggested the net effect would still be an "office park".
Co im'ssi ons r Larson stated her -e is, still a big concern about
curb cuts and tri,lFfic flow. Mr. Lar * n r -n ien ed that 37th
venuee has had 4 r,ur°b cuts on the soy err side since its inception,
so they aligned those 4 openings with s.1milar openings to the north
which he feels gives the best entrance and egress}
Mr., Larsen stated that they are asking for ,a rig t -in, right -out
curb cut onto Vicksburg Lane so they won't create a traffic prob-
lem,, , he feels this is the safest place for i $ Chairwoman Vas -
i iou commented that Vicksburg Lane is a mirror arterial street
and reminded Mr. Larsen that Council directives from the very
beginning_ have been that therebe no access to Vicksburg .ane.
Mr,, Larsen answered they have anticipated `such.cha nes as this
from the beginning`, and they vranted again to get a `Council res-
olu t 1 1. .
Chairwoman Vasiliou closed the Public Fearing#
Commissioner s eigerwa l.d commented that Mr. Larsen does make
some valid observations as o rah hAan should be changed.
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Planning Co,=Mssion Ali nates
June 24,,1981
Page 133
However , he, feels thet Commission 4hndld Beet with City Council
to get their input on adherence to the overall PUD plat.
MOT I ON by missi ner Steigerwald, seconded by, Chairwoman Vas-
iliou to defer this itein, until the Planning Commission and City
Council meet inI a joint session to discuss the major concerns
and changes on -he Faster Planned Unit Dpeelo ent oand
directing staff" td prepare background i n rr ati n on
this development for their review.
Chairwoman V sil iou stated this would be an agenda item at ioint
session In duly, and that methods will have to be developed ;
to Landle tete granges and perhaps they need to rethink the
Downtown Policy. Commissioner SteigerWald added that he
has n rrts mel at' € t dark eon pt l ares
but was generally supportive of the bank. Commissioner Wire
feels the curb cut on, Vicksburg Lanecannot be allowed and this
has aiways been the unanimous decision of Council andommnis-
sion. Con.AissionerLarsen stated tete Commission should act` on
the petition with specific recommendations and direction, lln-
cluding deferral, and discuss overall develop tent concerns
as 4 separate matter. 11"Ir. Frank Larsen nmeted that ; be doesn't
eel they are asking for any major changes in zoning .and he is
very concerned about the time constraints neer. The bank wants
to start., '-he have site plans now. He asked tete e rrission not
to set this aside gust because of the concerns on curb cut
but to make this, a` condition and take action on this item now.
Commissioner L4rson advised r. tarsen that the Commission.
feels there are problems with the plan itself and this is h1 s
reason to deer, with direction for redesign.
ntissioner etre stated that the Com. Mission should specify some
f the pry xblems tonight and -give direction.
Commissioner Stiegerwald stated delay would be minimal because
there was a joint meeting scheduled and it represented an
oppodts!nity to revieut basic concerns which hava. im att on this,
deel dnt
MOTION by„ Commissioner Fire, seconded b Comms ssi ener Larsen
to.attend the original t4etlen to give some direction to the
petition r as to deletion of the curb cut onto Vick-shurg Lane,
and that internal traffic circulation be improved on Lot I so
tete ingress and egress patterns are consistent with tete circulation
plan. al re ad , pi ed
annin Com.mil ss 4'4:8..n M a.4t%'-u
June 24, 1981
Page 135
r ea r° r Vtniliou introduced the next item and the reading f PARKLANDS DUELOPMEN
4.tri 'a.. "f "": ,.w ' ' .f,
fie ti 7 , 1981 stagy, 4 report was waived. p1tri #° tllg t L'af A -e r-.
B UD F INAL PLAx F
DEERWOOD MEADOWS
Mie. Francis D. Hagen represented Parklands Vlevelopment. die PLAT 3
stated his concern. about item, no. 5 of the staff report, and
stated the petitioner sought assurance on the future street
access to the south for the exception parcel. The Commission
reviewed and endorsed the site layout Oudot D which shows
street access to the except: ` n parcel. Staff indicated the
e si trr ;uw d Lane was workable and had been reviewed
by the Development Review Committee.. Mr. Ha en stated; the
re i ary plat and _Ian had been revised and the lots had
been computed based upon this future extension. Thus, the
concern f being able to dewed upon 'iris layout when Out -
lot 8 is final acted in the fare
KY'OTI I by Commissioner Stulberg,, secondedby Com,;,.,iissioner
Steigerwald to recommend p ro a ria Plat and RPUD Plan
E for '"Deerviood Meadows Plat 3" for Parklands Development west f
4.achary Larne and northerly of Zachary Uri CommunityPark sub-
ject to thefollowing conditions.
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I I. Compliance with the City Engineer's Memorandum for this
u Project.
d a -ion f Park for pub0c e parkand rail purposes.
as satisfaction of Park edi ea - i n requirements for tf,,is
is
building permits to be issued until the final plat
is filed with 'Henntepcin County.
4. 4o building permits to be issued until municipal
utilities are physically availabTo to the property. ty.
5 -rhe re nn ng to be finalized with the final plat.
Street nay s and m r t w the City street
nami n + M
r a f a I dead ord r ,from r property a
the Denier's expense.
3. The front yard setbacks shall be 35 feet on all lotsj,
on all streets neer °chartcul-de-sacs.
9. Revised preliminary plat and RPUD Plan, dated Jame 24,
Dr ovedrelative o lot layout and design14981
yia 5pya{apod # y y
Roll Call vote, 6 ayes. MOTION' carried.
Panh n:oR : s n Minutes
June 24, 1981
Page 186
asi I ini i troduc d the ftext itera and the rea ina of UERMANBUCKSUN
she June 77, 1931 staff report was waived. LOT CONISOLIDATIOR
AND SITE PLAIN 1
Michel r of "'I.J.T Rauenhorst Corporation answered questions
dor the Commission. She advised the Connission that a letter
had hese provided to staff stating there is no intention of
having retail al from this facilityt so there would be n
need for additional parking or signage.
Staff addr,d that the signege is 11,0eated on the north face
of Oe building and will be in . ,1 r ran with City
roc;i r.nt'
t ,, Foster advised the Con. missionthat they are not asking
for a variance, but would like rii ch t defer installation
of 0 parking spades at this time. she discussed the
landscaping as proposed,,, and requested that seeding beapproved
for areas shown as future expansion, which is allowed by the
Landscaping p l is y
aire caner Larson asked if there would b i possibility that
emay nese to install the parkingper the proof --parking,
Ms. Foster stated it would be unlikely the building will be used
for manufacturing, it is felt that the manufaLturing parking re-
quirem.ent is unrealistic for their* use at this time.
iant to go on record that Berman Buckskin tn" y wantShedid- v
to expand in the future.
Ms. Foster add that they pan asst the proof -of -parking requirement
for phase 1. h) 'Coormission asked if there was a timp table for
future expansion.? Ms. Foster answered there is no schedule
this tire*
Staff advised caution in presuming the. magnitude, of any Futuro
expansion,, since the site could not support ordinance required
parking for the expansion indicated.. The present plan and
proof -of -parking satisfy the requirements for this phase only,
includingthe deferral of 20 spaces seeding, the in-
tent of Che policy is to realize a viable, turf as soon a
possible.
The CommissionasRed about outside maintenam.°, mowing, etc.
Ms. roster stated that i' s maintenance will b( performed, med,
however, it gray be ,eft in amore natural state along Highway
55, , Comi,,iissioner erre stated he viould like to have something
Tivre definite than Seeding in the indicated expansion areas
i
anni ngn , # ssi n Minutes
one 24, 931
Page 189
1. Variances be approve.- to allow -a Ina,x um height of
7 feet and maximm size f 110 sq. ft., for the
pylon sign.
2. Approval to g°an variance for a "message board"
not to exceed 3 feet to al height from the ground
and 10 feet in width*
14. r. Olson stated .l tris nu problem with lowering the message board
but the sign is important. o ission r Wire stated that he
feels the message board is not necessary.
GRoll call vote on 01le Substitute Motion. 3 nays, 3 ayes.
Chairwoman Vali iuu, Commissioners Larson and Wire voted against*
111 FAILED. `i
OTIOV by ConDissioner Wire,, seconded by Commissioner Stulberg, to
a i nd the first Motion as follows.-
I.
ollup
sMI. Variances to be approved to allow a maximum height ,f
27 fQpt and maximum size of 110 sq. ft* for the pylon
sign.
Grant approval for; restaurant i d n i fi a r on sign
0 as proposed.
Roll It Call" Yf G fF T$ShaT L$ L: +' i C'1d€F141: ! +'X 7 L iYF& i s X oI §aud &ieE ?d
14, $
voted in ,f4vcFr, MOTION' FAILED.
I callvote for ORIGINAL. MOTION as stated, `4 ayes, 2 nays.
C imin ssi n rs Steigerwald and Pauba voted" against,' 14 "IOC# carried.
In Other Business., Chairwoman Vasillou reminded the Commission of
the joint council meeting or duly 13. The study session had been
scheduled fur July 8, but it appears' some of the members cannot
be there and their reports would have been the stain agenda iT.ems.
Staff cormnented that the tentative agenda for July 15 appeared
to be relatively light; it was the concensus to reserve the Tatter
part of the duly 15 agenda for Commission Study Items*
Chairwoman Vasiliau stated the City Manager had a tentative,
a s ada for the joint meeting, and discussion of DowntownPly-
mouth would ba an item. Commissioner Wird suggested the
mat-ter of providing affordable housing and how ar 'City stand-
ards should be modified needs to be discussed realistically.,
There being no further business,, Chairwoman Vasiliou adjourned
the meeting at 11.-25 P- Vii;