HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 12-17-1980Vem7, 11
The rqgular meeting of the Plymouth Planning Commission was calledorder in the
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MEMBERS PRESENT: i C it an ti re, Comrissioners Larson, Pauba, Steigerwald and
M"NBERS ABSIENT Chairtumiqtan Vasil ou andE missiarer 84arron
STAFF PRESENT.- Ce,,ninunity Develo,",ment Director Blair Tremere,, Community Develop -
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MOTION by iss4oner Pauba, seconded 1ky CommissionerHetchler to tapprovethe
i notes of the 6 r 3 1980 meeting s m; t 1 '-4
M 1 N 'CARR I E D - %" &NI FAVOR
hard Buh—, t"19gL Conditional Use Per -nit Renewal
rice Chairman 1,w -.a stated that Mr. Richard car 's request for, conditional use
permit renewal i . kr the instant printf % operation' located 14332 - 21-st Avenue
nor would be 'ni- d front of the agenda.
The reading of the December 12 1980 staff report was <waived. ir. Ron was present
and stated he had no coi-Aiments regarding the staff report.
ITOTION by Commissioner Pauba, seconded by Commissioner Hetchler to approve the,
renewal the conditional use permit c r Richard Buhrt for an Instant printing
opera ion l orated at 14332' - 21st AvenueNorth subjest to the following conditions:
I. Permit s suh ,e : to all i -able ordinances, codes and regulations and
Violation thereo;F shall ,,"- grounds for e ocatim
sida srmaterials r$rsh disposal facilities.
No signs permitted without sign plzir apprc-val in accor-dance with r inancn
and pian criteria for, this huTlding.
4. xp nsion of tnes beyond the space shown shall be subject to ordinance
Ian revise procedures as an amendment to the pertait.
tVIOTION CARRIED 5-0-0 ALL IN FAVOR
Condfitiorral Use
he r ` " q A t.fm 'Opn , ;. 'l;T 5 :€ r 4 waived. rx ` w ?" 3+
n sent the ' erg or r?1 s nor , "n inquired of staff whether
ireas, for riEaa estate sales offices for had been paved. Staff
sales ' i : reqnests the hwed dur nty, the past Year. Discus"slon
ensued regarding the tpivinq of tbe parking rs.
Vice irm n Wire declared the public hearing en.
Mr. qren stafed, t;ht the graphics uire Pnis-dvrawn and they, 'will € omp
ki 'd w% I« -fie- k5 +rraa a n Ede -i'.+ setback "*''3kSl STsa&iiia k "w F k n wa&.k that they i5.: [ #3.e the
f being used for more t!-tan six months and they `eel crushed rock would suffice
for dus", control of the parking area.
Mr. Bren st lted that there is a blacktopr vew existing +,-,a servo the f z , and
it was possible that on wteekends. ther, ma.. '.Je overflow r into she gravel,
area, but usually patrons can park in front of the sales office.
Cormnissionier_ Hetler coinmented that being energy conscious, he would preferto see
sotne other material (such as a used, for sv rze hing short a duration,,.
Mir. Bren s asiplacing t$ s; u at the ordinap,e
mirtimum required setback.
i -m- ss r Stelgennild inquired whether 3 to, 4 ince layer of gravel viould he`
h a -'.,s. 4 y r +, +a :1. a'g t s i 'a r> 4 spring s.Es4 1 iS i`a .f, ` t'i. 3t PA Yn E'asal x t t t-4 s ppor"t rr r r r is ring € he sp i gig e a r. 1-rr * Bram " s-We.1 1
f z "mat' *vely.
Cj ssioner-Hetchler, stated that he recommends crushed limestone as oppos. [to
Class 5 material s it is, more €c i , and the cost difference is not eery- much,
Vida Chairman,Wire closed the noublic hearing*
M.OTION b cmimss r Steigerviald,, seconded -by Commissioner Larson to take action
on this petition 'thisevening.,
ION CARRIED 5_0_0 ALL IN FAVOR
t",011ON by CommissionerHetchler,, seconded by Coim'nissioner Stsaigerviald to r c ri
approval of the conditional use permit for Bruce r n .H. Builders to locate
tempora,ryreal =estate sales office in the s ut hiest quadrart, of the intersecVon of
38th Avenue North with 'Fernbrook Lane suhjlct to the following conditions:
1. The off-street parking area forlthe temporary.real, estate sales office, shall be
crushed im s n and shall be located in acro: dance with City standards.
2. A peffor-mance guaranteeshall be subraittrad to assure restoration of Lot 4 ars
Lot , Block 5, Cedar Ridge 11 when the., use of the temporary sales office i
tee dal hated.
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3. 'he propose siqfnlage shall be l ocat ecaccordance with eubmitt.ed plans with
the e en that the :Ogle be minimi„im tib' yet rota he i -#-&f wnLWra .x T
of rnbr Lane*
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4. No sign illu;mInation features e itte .
ARR ICOAU IN' FAVOR
oro by _ . rek Seas and Bernard arr, 79,034T Final Plat
he eadi' Ib Y- 11.2, , f report was wall d. li)orothy KrAelberg
and 5ern - Barr ware_ present.
Staff discussed Iten, 14 in tete Engineer's Me -n r°a dum regarding the streets being
plitted wIth the first phase eve opmon
Discussiot) ensuedregardi 2 ut
t _ties and ii prn e ten sand both Mr° re e b r
and Mr. 'Barg expressed concern regarding whether they would be required o post a
eve e gent bond for: he i les execute v r° t t
Vfha se of the development. Staff responded that the petitioners sen d contact fk
Moore to resolve the issues regarding he streets and the d ve nz en ntract .
r yrs# r e b r commented 'op. recommendation an,! stated I°he regional park/trail'
easement had been agreed to, hA dedication should be deferred until the second
Haase. Staff indicated the description gad net been received., and the easement
should be established at this titne.
mmuml b Comm-nssione e l erwa d, seconded by Commissioner Larson to re mmeind
approval of the final pl,t. for Dorothy Krakelberq and Bernard Barr, for 'Takwood
Shores First Addition' subject to the following conditions:
4 Compliance, witty the Engineer's gem rad .
2. Rezoning only effective with filing of the final ppla.
14ritten tonfimation as to the area, configuration and legal description of the
regional park easement.
4. Official filing of the easement for the enn )iia County Park Reserve District
with ,`anal plat,, and r in:to issuance any building permits.
5. a -ent of ork dedi*1,tion fees in erdan with current City polity in effect
at tie of filing the i nal plat. i
6.
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Setback distance from .1 -lura Lane shall bt a minimum of 50 feet all other
setbacks shall be at least per ordinance mni um
e is with City Council PolicyResolution . 9- egar in ubd i -
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containing or adjacent to storm water drainage !U ies 5 eifi a l t
gradingand drainage plans t be prepared and submitted in accordance with
requirements for sinal plat approval shall be required to demonstrate Via) I %
ultimate develorinent of the plat as proposed wi l ' not result ip surface drainage
robe r abutting dao properan b tba ars required drainage
c'I5'.$u#a m40 N .' 41'd*£ .. JU6 17a. a. "a` aDecember > 1 :+L. b?,F
o".-Viall e. -'E"e Pike fake Shop` -aline or d, R.
dissipaLlion strUcturesthat. might be necessirypreclude serious, erosion aind
siltation consequences.
t 2, P.1 o k 2, steal I mot subdivided s long as the st i n dfaell r e, , , s
the lot; this shall be reflected in a covenant to be filed with Ot-, w1 at
Str t Aeras kin. -d. K," s to cwmply wftOi the City's ordinance.
10. access Orient-a"tion for Lot 5, Mock 1, Lots :. and 5, Block 2,. and Lot It Block
3, shall be to the side, street rather than to 61st Avenue North.
U. The streets steep bc, !Aowm on the ffnal plat for the first addition r he
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iwg 344.x^ 1L CARRIED .°"' "" e$9w 3 . 4 d}CLL DR
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The read n D d . Frank Larsen
was present,
tcommented on, Condit,,ion #18 in a- staff report relative to ordinance minimum
qsetbackteuirements,, and Mr. LarIcn stated ba I was o i , an
there, would be no prohlem with it in the future.
M1011 104,1 Sy- *,,'a M.,missioner Larson, s-conded hy Cm i'aissioner Paubarecommend approval
of the lri nal plat for Frank Lars.,."mPlymouth Hill s Compare for " O I of "s,Plyrao-£th
Addition subject to the following di ons
1. Compliance wilth thewiltCityEgir,, ., s MemorandaTor this property.
Aa sr provided between rrrr
andLaneyaBoulevardontoCountyRoad , and if acrelestior, and
deacceleration lanes are r$ d, they shall beprovided at the developer's
expense*
3. Site layout including public curb cuts for the auto care center onLot 1,
Block 1. shall be subject to site plan rnT*
There steals be no crab cut access onto Vitksburq Lane,,
All6dead r di sealed trees s 1 removed from the i~ t wn r` s
expenseAl
6. Submittal of required utility and driinage easements as approved bhe,City
Engi neer*,
bi;ilding permits to be issued until the final plat t s filed and recorded wi
Hni n County.
Dec,c en"'her 1 p4w
8. Ya rd, Setba0srig o di c d s b
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t ha n 7 ;poet and shall be developed w4 > ng.
MPT101'. tARRIEUI 5-0-0 ALL IN FAVOR
Fore T. Robbins for Mlic a F* Baker (8Lot Divis00159) ion!Consol idat ion
and Variance
This item was introduced by oaf who rv steed the Dlecember 12., 1980 staff report.
r Mary Ray showed s ' f h site of theexisting stat s an the
loc at f the roper lines a theexist, ce
Mr-,. Ford Rohbins was r " t behalf of'rk Baker and he stated that the application
tv4s its sub -m -4,ed- to recLify th,,e Issue fcry acs men upon either, the adiacent
property or the City right-of-way., fie stated he was First aware f the fence
earlier, that d4y.
Staff noted the i, us of encroach tent by the fence onto the Cityriont-of-way
the northh s f the property and Vie height of thG fence in excess o
the r 1Bance requT reme
Commissioner f h r tvmented that When he went out to view tthe site, the fence
s rtc.ted h4s the existinq, shrubbery en vegetation that they, were say
to comsieer in their decision* fie also 4.ed that the survey dues. not show the
deck which is existing 1v the r=ear= ,yard, o,)r does it tndicat.,4 thedistances from
il ert a {a-sa, Staff s6aikkn i c € i a r. ane it, -her'
aperwas taken for the deck. The survey was dated October 6, 1980 and i
appears ` 'h deck has been'n existance longer than that.
Mr.. Robbins stated than he will have to Italy: 'to the surveyor ars find out why the
existing structures are not shown on the lot s .,v . stat'ed Che the two .
y owners agreed a long ` a igo that a fence wool be appropriate between
thase- two roprs= He revieiied the s and the as s
the exl§tinq topogr=aphy and the existing trees. He statea that they are asking
the City to rectify ars area that is not usable and put the lot gine back tqh°e it -
shouldsoul have been. He.`stated that th height of the fence would have -to c $ ly
with tic s height per ordinance.
Discussion ensued regarding the a ra the right-of-way and the height o
she fence* (30rnmisi,,ioner Pauba cotmaented that he feels the petitioner has gone
a-,d,and done he Felt Me doinq regardless of the require-lents
a r avas c ssr r=aVat
a ss tl every, established neighborflood 11,16nin the City things similar to this have
happened; he is concerned about creation of a problemby approving the division
consolidatfion and having the existing s*eras be too close to existing lot lines
He stated thaw the height of ilio fence did not bothor him*
rection b - an accuratera survey s c v!all existip.5 structures ori Lot I and the
existing dim.ensfions to all properttylines shall be sub."nitted before she Commission
will take a n. this request.
c,'."". er
ALL IN xI€("P
Variance for Division
Platted erty
lMe r,eadingof the IMice,,Iher 1191SO staffj", r t.,as, waived. I.!r. Pale Grzaive was
yr Mr. i ,, v P. qhowed slidesof File " and, staffdisci edN e iiti
triict s ski t .: wall, tele -44 ne got i€; r hydrant, 'an n )po
N was discus%ed.
A ped
n the fature,, and staff stated that theopog1)by w s such, th the vost ` sfib e
development ' thl pyop ' was p `o y jugs tw lots, one _?ceasing `Ir ueen-
sand Lane anOl the other via the 30 foot s zt. aloes the north edge .-' e
rove ty, aas longi as the exception p e: n .
M. scussiort ensued regarding access along the north, side of -tire property and staff
the varia.ace -kis for no sere access of the required width per ordinarice
for Parcel A.
Mr. Grave stated that he and a surveyor have nee -- e site overm and the s rx e er
assured hfiqz that access via the 30 foot' wide strip to the Werth t as beth viable and
possible. 1 stated I they ha,aq rat n op r i ass '
nradaasaM`' ' sbeditk e De en a"'%s . 4le
information had been srr -
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3 ` F:d^Ie `n Ti'$ # I alb ti .m a'.€ I he re $nf n
wall would installed back. fron.,Queen : and
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ane '.analong he driveway area,, which
would be about 10 feet from ;re ph n . t nd the hydrart tiould, be 3 feet from
the Oain k eve; there is e, eriF 4ac(VV ss along this feet strip. He
stated that this ne hbors the north have sae y have no prohlem with his
using t4i s 30 feet strip for access to Parcel A.
Mr. Greve stated thais going to be gene for approximately X12 re s after
the o i , j and he requested the Co*mmission to approve the vas°'! it e with
etogineering, direction.
s ss ensured anon- the Coirmaissioners regarding Adie existing structures, top -
graphical inforization a+j 'proposed- concept latts mC ss ener Steigerwald stated
teat he felt this iter sire e deferred until they, can review the topographical
infom—ation on this proporty ari deterniine, w;neth Ar the 30 foot strip would be a
viable funri of access for Parcel
r. f'r-ave stateil that his hardship is that he has substantial taxes assessed
agat9st the property and cannot afford not to held the pivpertymuch longer. He
requested that the Planning.Commission take action on is request this evening,
Vice Chaiman Wire steed the Convission was net in a position to evaluate the
technical engiiye4ering plans just subimitted. Ille =mmented that another viable
development cense,-t would one utilizing the exception property.
he e" t* nen stated that perhaps he could buy the exception in the fn ure but
2 ,k` ¢fcd*^ ^a t
r I TI .'tom`# r 9ei
if, was not. illreso plans" Riva S"C117ed he vkinted to 'Ki kis options open o
3 fiiture use Parcel , noting here is va--jrt to, the %xith.
yt ' Ris i, ¥ a?, w3 i 'r"=t4m. ii ik' "^fitly ,:. as Oro %: aa`. tiw' evswgiY'§ 4" a . '4ae Yi@ "s. defer- N' Ca u'4m ee., .. axe # kaat L v.,th
i n on thi s request- p ending wal uation of she toppogra,10ca I- i nfo, r,.a,; ion for she
access to Pzl!-cel, A, and devellopmentof,L1 ac ss Plans.,
ALL '
11"
N FAVOR
Staff toi,,mtent,2d on the v,anuarY _.meet rig schedule, astated what the rn.eetings were
s da Thursday, "? <r ''Vi''`' e d' Use
which created a, conflict, and, on WLcOlnesdav, 07
January
Staf q, stated that, since two -,- mlssion seats expoired rv, they wouad wait t
discuss further meetingdates to see whether, the o issi _3rs were retained or it
w co ii ssi on rs were appointed.
Staff stated that the xy Coluncil wrouldsetting date ' ° 4 of t q with
the l i q ss and that the, w 'zi y the Comrissioners of the at
znd timme At that et`€_
Staff stated ti;.ha. Comprehensive Plan' has I..een updated and each ss sl
be sum to turn is book in, to Alda Peikelt' o have it A-rdaterl. He stated that the
m.p r si Plan was € o ga r° i° p i t and review the
pr_ review and approvals. Staff 'stated that a tiek,har of the Plan ing
Commission NrIltould be selected to meet with a sub_co ittee of PRAC to discuss the,
rovis0ons to the Pars Plan, whi FRAC would be revising In January, 1981.
k° Co riiss n ° H t ' seconded Commissioner i rvia t a r ' the
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MOTION CARRIED ALS IN FAVOR
Me meeting adjourned at 9V-.00P.