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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 10-08-1980Pt It eV4':MIG °3 Y City of.0 octobe" UM The regular m.ee't-inq,the . l ymuh ' i Y q Commission was called t -,dei° in the cil Chambers ft P rm t€ en or 3401 0 o 0 P kk .w by kCiia i wr#a n a ou. IMEVISEK PRESENT: Chairwomanrw p s i , Commissioners { r , Larson, St : rwa .I d -, li ".°rl r, Pauba and Commissioner Barron arrived at 7-35P.M. IMVAMI',RS ABSENT: None STAFFRES'ENT. murit Deve mDirector Bair Trem , ! `nml -,, i D'evelop- mrrt Cooy-dinater zMary Ray, it g -w ;"red Vloore a,idPlanning Secretary Barbara Anderson Open forura was -held at 6:45 .'I $r * tennis Schrader discussed iris proposal for site plan for an off i ce/wa rehouse building with the ann rig Commission. MOTION by co."narnissioner Hetchler., seconded by Commissioner Larson to approve the Minutes :brmb r-24 0n ineetAng as submitted. MOT ION CARRIED 5-0-1 Commissioner Steigerwald Abstained hairvioman Vas i t iouf` I nt- d that the Carlson ter public hearing, was or the agenda for 7.-30 and they would try to,take care of theother business prior to that iter. qtr Johnson '3 k!F66id 5R 14i YI Monument. S r? No one was present on this item; Chairwonan Vasilioustated; that they would rr to the next itept, and return to this one later, Harr' T 1 nc Final Plat and Plea The reading of the October 3, 1980 staff ,report was waived. Mr. John Uban was present representingthe petitioner. He stated that they.,will comply with the Ordinancerequirements regardina the signs, the drivewa.v on Block 2 w.'11 be- teaiporary untilhe road is installed, and the setback dimensions along Zachary Lane and the interior* road will be corrected on the plans, NOTION b ortutis ion r 'pPauba., seconded b mrm mss on r'Wire to recommendnd approval of the final plat and plan for Harrison, Hills Inc. for "Harrison Hills" X11 80.2 subject to the following conditions - 1* Compliance with the City Engineer's Memorandum. 2. 1 Detailed construction drawings shall be submitted nd approved relative to the Cross Community Trail. October 14900 3. Payment of park dediejtL-k)n fi eh In teu of dedi atil n in accordance wi ty Paredi a en Policy n effect a : the time e - ng of fi-lalpkat. 40, ane City _o. . davelopments containing or adjacent to storin water holding areas. 5. Street nar,.!inq shalln accordance with adopted Street Nlaf_,,ina Policy. G. Required site ifiproverlrlent performance,Financial ;.#e slall be terrled Sit ns including landscapingA included in Vie approved deve men contract. Setback of all structures froll the public right-of-way shall be at leases , feetminiglunof35except:µ ane w ger e the setback shall be ai ni um, of 5 exceptfor cul -de-saes.r fm 53rd Alien e and northeast- Ord whore setbacks ,.,nay be a ; inirnumzz of 25 wceproviding n the developer sees existing trees. All cul-de-sacs shah hbe public streets and shill be constructed according to City standards. 9. Nie building permits to be issued until approved -Final plat has been ' filed vd h Hennepin County* Pr oal plans all he appropriately revised to reflect required minimum setbacks on all s and in particular corrections shall be -made e ' Dais 6 and 7,' Black ad s Sec 0 the n Orth na to regard n 'Filing n docs s for planned unit developments; to include review and apprr-oal of homeowner association ov ens by the CityAttorney. orney. 2. The proposed entrance monument 'sign 0411 he within inane standards as to size and setbacks-, there shall e a deed covenant` or prevision in the home- ewners assne at ear dee , ents for sign maintenance as approved by the City Attorney. MO CARRIED on a roll call vote, six ayes. 4yrer "`ada ` .Final Plat The reading of the September ?5, 1980 staff report was waived. Mr. Den Myren was presentMOTIONbyofi-ni ss ener° 'Wire, seconded by Coirmissioner Pauba to reconlimend approval If the final Plat for Den iron of "a d Te West", subject to the fell- in conditions: Lompl ane w t-t the City Engineer's flemortandtmi, 2. f Payment of park dedication Fees in lieu ofdedication in accordance with the Cit_ Policy in effect at the time of filing of final plat; improvement 2. fi a. ,a a`p x,. Y+; d'a°r' ,e s "INI ,t +w' I O VINs _ ,' it Z e .,.,: ^. € $ `„` . 1 `'. r" ,__` 3 . "30 rzai rr:d r fp r Ci"-,y k Z.,arda4rds wp r . "such ictpr vem.ents as r f d Ley, the City Engineer in accordance with the Rar 3. No building permits to be issued untIA1 uni ipal utilities and services; are Ally av-ilable to the property arid, until tne final plat has been filed with Hennepin County. 4. '17." oripliance witti City Council Policy Resolution No. 7c-'-80 regarding s bd visi ns containing or adjacent to storm. water holding facilities,. S. N'o building setback variances ar granted or implied partticularly for gross lots approved vkh variances frm ordinance inimu width and depth standards. 6. Street naming to be consistent with adopted street naming system. Lot, width and depth variance5 are approved a l ws Lots 2 and 3, Block ; Lot I, Block 1-1 Lots 15 and, l Block S. 8. Structures on Lots 2 and 3, Block 3 shall -e setback at a mini € , the distance ro t ont nr o r line w r the lot s l fee. wi i y with the width requirement n the Ordinance. Lots fading 19th Avenue Garland and Fountain Circles shall have drivew.Y access onto the side streets rather than onto 19th n 0. Trail corridor shall be provided the south side of 19th Avenue from Dunkirk Lane to Garland Circlt; the street right-of-way shall be a ininim, of 65 -feet 4" E'Y a L1' 4L'YG'43:i s. 4d2s €3i'?3 5e).h a^ rk a moi+ wsrsrt Trail.w o '£ Avenueand Garland Circle shall e f concrete construction and trail segments frofron, Garland Circle.to the Oakwood School property. and from, 19th v n t where the trail ties into the trail to the north shall be of asphalt deisgn. Detailed trail construction plans consistent with City standards, shall be submitted. 40TION CARRIED on a roll call vote six ayes. Go rdnn 3d ns n 'Schmidt Lake Mlis' (A-793Y Monume."t SiLn Chairwoman Vasiliou stated they would return to the petition for the morwrient :sign for "Schmidt Lake Hills" which had been set aside' at the beginning d the meeting. No ane was present representing this petition. IMOTIOINI issi n r Larson, seconded bytt s l n rSteigerivald to recommepe, approval of the nrurii sign I r Schmidt Lake Hills subject to the following conditions: I. Sign t a d in accordance,witb the submitted plans. 2. 11° 4 illumination features on the sign permitted. 4 Thatthere aneasement,for this .. h n spot ' 6 101, ids a 'sills,, and id n 41Tin shall srch it e prior issuance permit, x ha t there ba a deed. ciuvenant for sign maintenance over the entire stlbdivision,, as approved . she City e me ; to be filedprior to permits. 0 N' CA RfZ1Sf D on a roll call vote, six ayes,. ha r =,,an Vasiliou exvlLlin d that since the next. itevis were pudic hearings ars d been advertised in the legal nevMpaper as Laing held at 7--30 P.M. the Corutnission would take a 15 minute recess. The meeting roc ss- at 7:15 1P. . and reFvmed a 7-130 lc Conditional Use Permnit ih ;'reading the October 3,, 1980 staft report was waived. Mr. Garlock was -present, and stated he cone 1° a with the staff roco.ti on a ion . Cba r anan Vasillatt declared the public hearing open'. Cornmoissioner Pauba inquire, -L --l' t the items which will be stored within the now storage area and s he chey would be the saes as the items there now. Mr. Garlockresponded in the affirmative. Chairwoman Vasiliou closed the public hearing. MOTION by Com.issioner Pauba, seconded _ o aiss or r Wire to take action on this petit4on this<<k; onl na- t4 1 TON CAP lED 6-040 ALL IN FKVOR MOTION1 by Coniimissioner Pan a, seconded b "o i ss oncrI'l r o rm)nmnend approval of the conditional use p-ermit for Garlock quipment Company subject to the follow- ing conditions. 1. The conditional use permit- i4 sl4bject to all applicable bodes,. ordinanres and regulations, and violation thereof shall De grounds for revocation. 2. Compliance with the provisions of the City Engineer's Memorandum. The screening fen-:, shall be of not less than ninety g percent o acit k On the -v;tist and so,pith sides of the outside storage area, the five foot q i eeninq fence :, e constructed on top of a continuous three foot hit. The ` fire lane passing around the wet side cthe building through the storage area shall not hctr, obstructed by. stored e ui, . gent or materiels. 6. Provision of fire lana gates at each end of the storage area enclosure. 7. Prohibition of outside storage:of trash containers and steel scrap containers. Trash storage shall be within the building or in "an accessory. enclosum complete with roof and walls of the same exterior finih as the main stm_tore.," as required by City Ordinance. 10P1s.:aas4,3, 3i Ni;a .r vi`i#xa.;,„"'N es 3. Provision of a performance quer ,.tee for completion of as h It pa 4n Jnd fere.*ing with months. MOTION t rriissioner 11ire, secondian Yy C.a.aa0!aioner Pauba to amend to add ninth as follows: 4 Mis conditional use permit shall be revievied t rar. annual b is. mis ion Barron arrived at the meeting a .cD4* Chaff rw called fr a vote on the arendment. Chairwortan Vasiliou called 1' r < a vote on the main 41.1ct i c as oticea ne d d* MOTION CARRIED 6-0-1 CopLi.issioner Barron Abstained Carlson t 19 Rezoning and f rel i i rraty Pl a t Tbe reading of the October-., 1980 staff f report was deferred. Mr. Skip McCombs s.. " sent r si Vicr nu,4-so Associates, tart r the et -1 ` o r.. ;r A Combs reviewed thguiding and the City Council action. He stated this will correspond with the proposed zoning. He reviewed charges in the general development lap acid the layouto of the roads in that portion of the development which lies within the municipal boundaries of,the City of Minnetonka. Chairt-tanan Vasiliou stated that Minnetonka has not acted on this proposal at this 'point in time. Mir. McCombs thea reviewed the portion of the general development plan which lies within the municipal boundariesof the City of Plymouth and stated the lads have been revised to comply with the new guiding and the proper rezoning. He discussed the layout of the streets and the connectionswith Berkshire Lane. Staff coin -rented briefly on the new information submitted by the petitioner and reviewed the staging of County Road 15 and County Road 1. Staff stated they have no objections to construction at Year 1 with the understanding that n development of sites would coi*-mience until the major roaO fi-,,ipmements are ordered for construction. Staff reviewed the October 3, 1`980 staff; report and c .mm ted that Parkers Lake Road south of County Road 15 should" be reviewed as to possible closing from the north,, at least as a future need considering traffic impact to the north,, once the new interchange at Highway 12 is open. 4r, Todd fly gond of Barton- sch aAssociates,,,also a consultant for the petitioner,, r vie d the revised traffic analysis data:. The Year V Figures do f not add up because all the traffic does notgo through the interchanges. There will be more than 1.1 persons per vehicle. By the year 2000 there, will be 1.;.y er ons per vchic e* They have used a 1 persons per vehicle figure. The rr yssrher, of cars will also be reduced h, the year 2000. Ile stated that combined tri would be shade by people who live in the neighborhood and work there as well. j He stated that the projected level of service at the interchange has not changed from, the original levels that were projected,, =,rd they feel the results are valid 6- _ October ^t+, $ t Chairwomanan gas i l i o i ri <r i red *ft-',toir their Feel the roads will provide adequate service at each staije of tree develfjjyent. Mw. Heglund responded that they have ra to $ vsn " x saes madsssx ^csi e+ s. a`re •s v: n .9.,a. n y5: ' r. i ,€. "" %« .,, t .....' 4r . the w1 5 the develoirlent, and ill.; will handle the traffi,7 as far as the project is ods cern 1. Cnerinissloner Larson inquired regarding the impact of the traffic on 3"'94 and Highway 12,. Mr. fleglund stated that it would m,..prove it. Comiadssioner Larson stated that a concern of both Plymouth and 0,nnetoh a was the development of the County Road 15-1-494 interchange at the initial stage of develorrert. ttir. He and responded that if it is constructed ip Year I it will rake the traffic situation better than if i- is c nst r uct d in year 74 or 4 C.mi ss ioner, Larson inquired about the standards for such intersections and Mr. Heglund responded that he did not have the exact figures but ` they will e constructed to *41ig way Departnient standards. The access ramp X or, the County Road 15-1-4094 interchange has been -y d as far as It can be. Chairwoman =,,io referred to the memorandum from the City's r7onsultdnt, Mr. Ji Benshoof ;f Westwood Planning and Engineering`, and started that r4r. Benshoof had requested the Planning or r Esse n to nail down the numbers as the sdrrdt ed rat ria l s coo speculative at this point. Staff clarified that year I would he tyre yoar after the improve -mems have been ordered. Staff stated that the physical inrcverrents on given sites will not occur untili the traffic has been provided for. Mr. 111c -Combs consented that that; is shy the figures :are not that important at this stage in the planning process. PIr. Heglund stated that the roads outside the Project are outside th ir jurisdiction-, however, the roads withn the project will e ctrct d with the project. . Cdr mis i r Wire commented that he agrees orith fir. # Mc o qhs in that, the figures will pr0a ly vary because of the uncertainty as to when the roads will go in. Mr. 414cCorrrhs stated that the ramps would he co eruct d i e r" i and tai f'rst si n` i ant d v is nt I t[ T ar fir`s; Discussion :,nsued regarding the traffic study and the figures related to the construction of the roads and the timing sof the development. Commissioner Wire inquired as to how the traffic generation count was donR.. Discussion ensued regrding the construction of buildings in the surrounding area as refaced to the traffic analysis., orstk ss rer -lire ;stated one of his primary concerns is the traffic impact at other intersections along County Road 15, besides the interchange itself, stated she inpact of are,av de developnent and through -traffic should he evaluated. r«. Mcglund suggested such an analysis was unreasonable in that it involved much speculation and improvements beyond the control of the petitioner. OAr osrr n Vali tau corm ented that the traffic report gets or vague and more difficult to camIrehend and it creeds to he more specific. the cotmented, that she feels that the traffic flora and analysis has to be considered by the Planning Comimission, and that the. year 2000 is not that far away in tears of planning and grovith projections. . teff gave a brief review of concerns which sh u' d be address d by the ann* -i Commission. the enera dev op entr plan, the 7rrter`. section of Fernbrook Lane with County goad 16 and the Parkers Lake cul -do -sac should be discussed. The tr,-%ff c 'flow needs to be locked at and trafficc n rhation needs to be reviewed. population (both existing and projected)can give us tine figures ie need to get a feel for the type of traffic that will be generated and we can then get an idea of the typo of roads we will need. Thequiding of this area tells us how torose areas vfill develop in the facture. Discussion ensued regarding the, al i nrrert of Fernbrook Lang with County Road 15. i Ji I PLA-1-4111ING" UWAIMISSiON MiNk";TEE's -7. October ill) 1980,; AMNEL `oo,niss` On r Larson inquired whether the net, i tioner has acquired the prop rC included ift the p*rept i n ry plat. MI ,, darn b (% Carlson Comm n s, responded 31 S at Iia: vI vs4-a 4 f xzs f «:s ws.4 i tw r. 'tom 2 .: s a I'lld" E. 'y f.av sew'' s F . rr`k n cs talking ' h neon=gin r f :tire second site Powlas property) but they have riot reached an agreement. Staff co"Imented that upon prel If roar ,}-pplat approval , peneral area grading and preparationn ti ro can commence. Chairwo.?an Vasiliou declared the public hearling open. V;,r# Dave Il rx nG 420 Berkshlre Lane staked that 'fie was present at the taeetinq b ( behalf off` th Berkshire Lane Hopeowners group and as a private citizen. As a private : ti n he wished to colnment that he felt the P",anning Comitnission iotas genuinely; concerned inbo t the weltare of. the citizens and the City Council Was inore concerned about the developer. He then inquired raring the tts of the Envirommental Assessment 1.1orksheet. Staff responded that the draft C W has been submitted and it will refined as it progresses. It st be approved b the tire of final p, t approval. The preliminary plat can be approved before the 1 process is completed; the grading and site preparation cannot commence until the EAW is apprived. State Lacy requires that the EAW st be complete before grading can begin. Mr Nygren inquired as to when the pub it. input ceases. Staff responded that this was the public r r n. Mr. tly m compared th Flinn t n a portion of the Carlson Center,, proposal to Mnn ton a's Opus ; h stated that 'the Dlrmih port i on d d not resetnb § e Opus I I but that 41t, was -,*re like` an extension of the existing industriall near. Ne inquired about a rcr - tconal park and stated that the propoFal had been compared to OPus 11 at the c tizen mectings and at the f4i nn ton a meetings. YIr. McComibs responded to the idea of a park as an arnen.ity on the Plymouth side o the develo7pnent by stating that they are trying to met t1: ` needs of the develop- ment and not the City as a enols. They have the trail systemm going through the project and plan to pay the park dedication fees as opposed to dedicating land for park Mr. tQygrpn, stated that they are concerned with the visual impact on the neighborhood and the transition betn the development and the existing residential homes- He sttd that he rat a pari; that the local residents can use., and he feel's it would be an asset to have, the open land area between the development and the existing residential as well as for the future residents who will moving into the area in c nunr t on with this development. He stated that he feels they are trying to crag, ".00 mu, into ted little space,, and he feels transition between the pr eand the r~ s d n iai properties is essential. Chairwoman asiliou stated that transition const be shown at the time of site plan approvals. fir. tVgren inquired about the mass r di plan and the buffering- around the church-, Discussion ensued regarding the grading plan and r.*Uo bs explained it. Coauaissioner Barron stated that he appreciated the comments' about the planning Cc -mission and tree Cit Council,-, herd er their ends are somewhat tied in that they ;have the unfortunate task of dealing with the project with the guiding as established by the City Council which is not what the Planning Comalissicn recommended. 1,e stated that the Planning Commission would try to do the 'hest job they can. Mr. Bob Troemmei , 14808 County Road 1 ,, stated that he had sent a letter to the Planning o a ssion, and City Council regarding concerns about the traffic on County Roar last seri ng nd he is still -concerred about it. 4e stated that he feels the pan is, kdve in that it_ funnels hevy traffic into w; reads which a4 "" 6.`^rFx "' '".$'tr. '"+:.'^ Ig m+ai3*T '.tt'i#lt"*.*:^.. 3i+ $ «•i a+an: i`1,in.xxv»! gx vi e.r F1sc„o x N'T Inv: elkw Zn ii.;%' tri E ss f; lookclosely a the study and the use f the rad p p e froit.i the project. He o -armen ed that it is going, o be a readily accessible interchange onto Old County Road 5* He stated that they should sturdy the effectec f the shopping nt r which will be forcingr3i down County Road 15 andray closing Parkers Lake Riad* pis,, Kar*erg 40 '° Rod 15, stated they w one acre rI so iglan es is showing as - richt-of-way for Carlson Parkway. -they approached Carlson Compare ; regarding their purchase (if their property and were approached by Carlson Ceeny after the la,,t Planning o ss a in She stated at n de; s i or s itra e been made r ga te e sale their property. She i nqui red whether the City would have any plan for their property. Staff stated that if the City approves the final plat i ter the road agoing across their property cannot progress until i, is acquired n some 'Fashion. If it is declared a public rip r vement project thea They would have to° proceed through condeination proceed- ings and negotiate with them to acquire terre lane Pat Brewington, 110-30 Vlagrolia 'Lane, stated that she had questions but fel she did not have enough information. She feels tne doors to the citizens are closed and she is making an appeal to Carlson Companies to reconsider tyrena i l of r torose citizens who e adjacent to the proposal. She stated that she is W -p sed to the developnent,, as she feels it is just inother large indus- trial nd s- ral rp which wille detrimental to the r residential neighborhood. Chairwoman a i i stated than the citizens de have inrut a ' each stage of the proposal when it comes back for review. She stated that they cAnnot stop thea a['`'a r ect- h:n y cite zs '* s' in ` — —i , z# . s $ a r y manner a l possible. s, '.10roth., Ciskowski, 14316 County Road 15, stated that she is pleased that the ossi l'e frontage read concept as developed by Carlson Cnr, pan es will keep her off County Road `15 and Carlson p&r k was however,, when she sees the propposal for Fernbrook Lane to inVxsect with County Read 16 she is concerned because she understands it will require her land. She asked when this, intersection would be d ds r lced and ` row soon she might have to move. Staff stated that this is a public read contemplated by the Thoroughfare Guide Plan, and the City needs to address this issue of access t o her property. Prim` to final plal.-61aq of this area the City needs to look at the aligrunent of Fernbrook ode. e cannot respnd to this question this evening as the concepts are not finalized acrd they do not have the plans.. t1r lans. r ebd stated that Carlson Companies has no pans for the area to the north and they have not acquired ani property in this ' area as of now. Mr dig Lirighapn, 11510 County Read 15,, stated that as a resident he sr.', s thousands of people coming into the area and their quality of life will be affected negatively. He was asking what the Carlson Company is going to do -dor~ the area residents in the way of recreational facilities, and parks besides two. softball fields in Minnetonka. He also was skin whether the City has any plans for anv parks in this area. Staff stated that according to the park plans the rp t„° does not have any plans for a park: in this area at this time. October a fir. Bingham, inquired what atoenities Carlson U.xypany i providing for i r- a, hood !"!'r- Sebold stated thatinell with the .irdnd Recreation Advisory x i3 a Fff gae ' $ us i$ $ zs i.e a t•r ta41 ? ra 41` z. . I d TFusAs 1;, € %A S[kx [died 5a &,6 Li '[a &4i.4 Rri.$ pa tea, hrel , fen D?G d";T $KI'w+?&Y d $d %a$63 .S SIB '•. ttw .T xi$ '81,"` ve tod .c,, pav fees instead of dedicating I and. Mr. Daae Nlygren inquiredrwhy Carlsono , couldn't take the area 0 they have planned du;plexes'and turn that "Into a park. Chairwoman Vasiliou stated that this Jssue should be brought before ,'the Park aRecreation Advisory C -or_. on. M . Roger Lillenjo, 13513 Windy Hill Road,, inquired about the buffer for Christ vlem-orial Lutheran Church. C*hairv.x)i_.an Vasiltioustated hathis issue would b addressed at the time ` sits elan appi,,ova% IN11. d hn Hagen,, 515 Harbor Lane-, seated than he was concerned regarding the proposed develop.ment of County Road 15, and recalled earl r City planning concerns - or a n ng ;-go traffic. g Vinton, 15520 County Road . m. d,!K d Ohl he has questions about' County Road 15 and Parkers Lake Road. He asked whether Con , Road 15 would hove barrier and stop traffic going to the Carlson project, He st '"'ed that`the area needs RtohaveCcht Road 15 widened in places because of the increasing tr'affic ai7d population., Ms. R satin Malek, 12630 Resden Road,' staffed that she has a major inteeest in,rhe dealign of County Road 15 to the east. She asked how it would be developed and where it woulO go# She also asked whether County Road 15 would 'become a '4 -lane road through to Highway 55. a'ir. aa. 11.lee TT,T t 51 L r Q# T%la i is it } i nqu 1 ff 6.: Eel di fli, C'y we -ons +E Idc ng the roads in a manner which would bring all the traffic directly past. -.is hoes . He suggested several road design modifications that would permit a "looped" traffic in this neighborhood which, as shown, will be ,o cd* Mr. McComs stated that they would be willing to install cul-de-sac that mould help, but they don't see any reason to build a read to the north. Mr. r n Li berg, 705 Pineview Lane, asked whan County Road 15 Va the east w developed' and why. Staff stated that it is because the need is fcrseen for an ultimate connecting road From the -494 area to oun , Road 7Highway Chairwoman V-,siliou closed the public hearing,. The meetIng.recessed at 10:00 m and reseped at 10**10 PJAI. SIO, ION" by Cor issi n r Steigerwald, seconded by Commissioner Hetchler to take actin on this petit'OnL this evening' P410TI01 CA7-0-0 ALL IN FAVOR 11 T ' by Commissioner Barron,, seconded by Commissioner Larsen to defer this petition until the 'October Und meeting to get the City consultant's traffic analysis; that there be further`Inforaation submitted regarding the futurek AdUiL construction and possible connection 0,f Fernbrook Latfe, with County Road 15. and Vs revievi of traffic flow artd street connections in the Beirkshire Lane area. MOTION by Commissioner Wire, seconded by Chairuoman Vasiliou to amend to add direction to expand tbe traffic study to include all i tersec-Liuns on 0 unty 'Road 15 west of 1-494 including the intersection of "ountj Road 15 wilth Carlson Pxkway; and to clarify the relationship olf the traffic, system i,tiprove,rrtents staging with the site develop -Ment staging. Discussion ensued regarding the timing of construction of the roads connected with,the proposal. MOTION CARRIED 6-1-0 Cominissioner Barron OnGsed Commissioner Barron stated that he feels that such study is not necessary as it t*.*on't have any bearing on t he actual development. fie stated detailed enginelring analysis would be part of final plan approval. Commissioner Barron commmented that one reason they, don't need ithe traffic studies at the other intersectiolls is that they have a consultant to anallyze that in?ormation for them.- Klr., M,;Xc,1,bs asked for clarification of he earl'.er motion relative to "-ffl inter- sections" west of 1-494. MIOTION by Commissioner 'vlire, seconded by Cotwaissioner Larson to amend the motion to specify the intersections of County. Road 15 with ,arkers Lake Road, with and without a cul-de-sac,,, and of kl', ounty :oad 15 with Carlson Parkway. Cha i rwon, an Vasiliou called for a vote on the amendment. MOTION CARRIED 6-1-0 Commissioner Barron Opposed Commissioner Barron commented that it was included in the previous action with everything west of 1-494. Cht,irwor;an Vasiliou called for a vote on the main &i,otion as twice amended,. f -Cl -TION CAPRl.vb on a, roll call vote., seven ayes. Chairwoman Vasiliou announced that tthere would be a meeting scheduled by the Citizens, Alert Group with ,4aycr Hunt and Councilmember Neils, at the Chris,; Memorial Church on October 14, 1980 at 7:30 l!'I.M. She also announced that the City, of 14innetonka iwas having a publ *c et ng ort this pr-oposal on October 31Ych and any interested persons should contact, the City of 1-tinnetorika. She commented that any subsequant meetings wovild be public meetings but would not be puolic hearings; they will entertain Lommients from the group representatives however. The reading of the October 3., 1980 staff report was walved. Chairwoman VAsil iou noted that this was a public hering; no one was present to comment. I',' ri I, et4 s `' x ; } 3 w'k.,*.s "-.... r+>b.,.€..sir 70;,NtN a a uco 1 t . u £' !pto t * t* t' on this this res CARRIED, 0 IN n st a Con,;PissilrzersAtchler toreccmmend approval t -he reguleinti pro"" 1 A- -4nd the r nin fro,-. I-1 t -21 for ALL IN FAVOR Chairwoman Vaisiliwi r i.ti nd tl,,,e 'Cowdssionirsof the ,point City Council/Planning xIssi n meeting o review- draft o#np r h n v 1fan scheduled for Monday, Cha rwo.na n Vasiliou also inquired as to the Planning Cor,,fni n' willingness rkeet it l i t in ti—event that, additional -'Jroewas deeded.She stated that they age encouraged light agenda$ whenever items , such as the Carlson Center proposal w -as scheduled. Staff coimmented that perhaps the; could have a special meeting on Wlednesday,, October 29th to consider the Carlson Cepter rather than have it on he agenda ori October'22nd,. Discussion ensued regarldling the meeting times and the Planningr iDn decided that all future meetings should start at 7.-00 P.M. with Open Foruins being schedul- ed e l - ed at 6.-45P.M. on the first monthly meeting. I MOTION by C.,nmi ner Hetchler,, seconded by Commissioner Wire to adjoura the nReet i ng. The meeting , Lrned at 10-55 . P4. C I i