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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 04-09-1980City of Plymouth April g, 1985V A special meeting of the Plyritouth planning commission was cal7ed to order at 7:30- P.M. by ChairwomanVii d in the Conference Room of the City c i l Cham -b rs of the Plymouth amity, n aat 3400 Plymouth Boulevard. MIEM PRESENT: ha wa Va i ud , Cure i s Tuners Thr i nen, Barron,, Wire, Steigerwald, pauba and Larson IE rtI E T: Nuns STAFF PRESENT.- mMun "nps n Director Blair, `reme, Associate Planner da Peikert and Public 'Works Director Fred Moore 1CONS11TA T PRESENT: Ferrol Robinson, Barton -As h can Associates, Robert Schunicht and dim Olson, Bonestroo Associates hair utu an ' as l i u stated that the purpose of the study meetingg was to review the draft updated Thoroughfare Guide plan the draft updated Sanitary Sewer Guide Pay, and the adopted Goals, (I)bJectives and Crits. 1a which needed clarification and updating Staff n re c d the Thoroughfare Guide plan Update and indicated there were wo areas affectQOi additions and modificatioqs to theJnr h a ,rr n ur stem*, and adoption of a standard classification` system Jnr tJ arinu types of mads and thoroughfares. Ferrol Rubinson exolained the graphics and report. He stated the consultafit had made the assumption olf total saturation for development in accordance with the adopted Land Use Guide Plan, that the phtyica constraints analysis dune- b, Barton-Aschman earlier had been applied to reduce densities' in constraint areas, and that modification of existing oroughfare systems had been based on, compari- son of existing development against the Land Use Guide Plan He stated the changes proposed were ti lassification nomenclature t,.,) bao a - i,ble° h na on d as wellas regional and county, standards- and sae location and alignment of future thoroughfares. He emphasized that the "n w" thoroughfares indicated were general as to pl ;t r t. and were not meant to be exact locations or rights -of -Way. He,stated the exact J i t. nt, wtou d be decided at the time of actual development folloo ng closer examination of the site and the area Staff commented that whereas the Sarton-AscIman study assured saturation, the Ml tropol i an Council requi.ed that the plan speak to development in 1`990 and/or 2000 and that some further analysis may be necessary to provide thatinformation since it is expected the pity, will not realize saturation of development by the year 2000. n response to Questions by Commissioner Wire nd Commissioner Threinen,, fir. Robinson stated that there were various means of dealing with congestion problems which had been identified or were anticipated-. the capacity of the network itself could be nci*eased 'such as throu h ltlhe addition of traffic `banes or traffic control dev ices,, and the land uses could be changed with the intent i ti rig growth in certain areas if that were deemed necessary} A f.. '4.*, dt a#.# "s"pp t '..g- c^c na ril 9, INO M4r. Robinson also stated that the advantage of looking to the pointof ara on riaidentify these areas which should be reserved for right-of-way s that w s po siblo rather than walting for the actual development to oIcor. . Chairwoman aril eyed that the Coi!rdssion endorse the. prof -sed pian with appropriate d ree drr to staff to include it in ':!Ie final rya l L pda d oma ensive Plan -,and to, plan ona detailed revise every -1 mionths of the Plan to evaluate rr terms of current deve p Feat. OWNby er a ire i e seconded by D ea r* " e l er wa d to endosac the proposed Thoroughfare Guide ,`Iar draft as prepared and presented by Barton-Aschman Assoc ata and to direct staff to incorporate the same in the final draft the 1'pdated elrzp e aerr ve Plan. I T ION CARRIES 1 -0-0 Faro Staff introduced the rzc .,.t item, the draft update of the' Sanitary Sewer Plan. Staff stated :hat a related i c, w n,.p onsiderat4r# of the Metropolitan` Urban Service Area lboundary (tIUSA Line) which cc ,e modified at this time. He stated the Metropolitan rre ed rer ve appropriate ir theCity to propose y € gyred=a xHe d consultant had e i rimed that v,,atter did* in fact, have proposed changes for sic' an analysis had been provided. Bob Schunicht of BonestrooAssociates` proceeded with an extensive discuss- on of the Sewer; Plan Update and the engineering data supporting the proposed modifications to the IMUSA Line. Mr. Schunicht presented a history dating back to 1961,71 when a co,mprehensive sewer system was initially planned for the entire City. He noted various assumptioni which grad been, made over the years including these in the northern part of the City which still applied. He 'stated that the City reeds to closely monitor policy decisions and studies being conducted by the Me rep" i Carr Waste Control Contmiss" since the assumptions behind the City's existing system wind be altered wit <.,, .. in policy., Mr. hunichtart arti . k. -. reed the status of the Elm Creek rrte ept and the capacity in the Bass La area. He stated that an interipa. capacity which had been used for this area,would not be available by the year 2000 and the alternate receptor system should be p a wm .gid and available by, then Discussion ensued with the Cify Engineer and Mr~. Schunicht rardlllp inflow infiltra- tionproblems and the intent to apply ter a grant to study and P..,rrect the problems. Mr. Schunicht recalled the earlier analysis and "to ti " the sanitary systee aga'nst the Lard use Guide Plan and noted that the capacity in the seg LhVie t portion of the City was very tight. He stated that or reguidings in this area should be reviewed very closeelv. During further discussion regarding the proposed MU Lime changes, Comiss, Y rrei en stated that with regard to the industrial area in tyre west portion 04 the City Wean Highway 55 and County Road 9, the Commission should consider not extend- ing the MUSH Line as far as proposed In order to. control growth in that area. He stated that industrial development in trat area prior to, full upgrading and ae emeda- ierr of reads needed topn, r t such development Gaud present _grave problems. e suggested that the i err rkv be pulled back to the east sp that the entire 11ndustrial property wound not be 'eligible er full development until full metropoli- tan sewer capacitywas available. A N t'A'a" WMI!4ISSION MINUTES Apra 9,, 1930 Discussion ensued and staff noted the locatior of the existing IM d nd ry in relation to the subject area and suggested that virtually allof the industrial hand was row considered inside the MUSA Lire anyway. 's n r Threinen stated he realized this d : wxas suggesting that the Cite consider p i c; it flack seen Jifurther. Vm Olson awi Bob c n cn° stated that problem with that proposal was not easily deter;nini q from an n ine r rq and capacity standpoint exactly. where pull the line to and that it would be totally a matter of polio relateO to concerns n o r than sewer capacity as to where that line should be,, They stated,that the proposed line eelated. to available capacity d r n d by, .enefin,:ker- ing studies. Staff corrzented that the City could still control the tipaing of jrL,qth in'this area by not including the area in the 5 Year Capital Improvermenti Prcqram inti it was dadpprpr a.* 4r. Schunicht also .noted that in the area of 49th Avenue and -494 further etude showed that some revisions -Could be made in this area to expand the MUSA Line to the west and that this auld be indicated n revised dr ew . MOTION by wmaAssioner Steigerviald, seconded by Commissio*ier Barron to endorse the Updated Sanitary, Sewer Plan including the recorviinded changes in the MUSA boundary and the area near 49th Avenue INIorth and -494 as proposed by theengineering analysis of Bonestroo and associates. MO CR CA 6-1-0 Corm".14ssioner Threinen Opposed The Commission }axe cls Objectives and Criteria for communitydevelopment and a i } ditorial chan4es were noted. With r sp -- o substit-*tve changes stafli d to assure tire Goals, Objectives and: Criteria c tz current City n d pr " ns Plan. Commissionerr r in n noted, of example,, that .* 4 ,,. '4 c s and Criteria had been established prior: apt» formal adapts(-. f r. % . pre n+ an and s r r s r gra reference,,z to neiahborhoods based an school needs whicar couldd n w be related to the ccmmunity structure concept in the Comprehensive Plan. It was the consensus of the Commission to direct staff to make the necessary editorial and substitive changes and return with a draft for `further Commission review. s a final item, staff vindicated that the City had directed c mission to consider possible napes for the thoroughfare now id ti"Find as 49th Avenue North} An extensive list of possibilities was reviewed and the Commission stated that eF . this time it could be reduced to thefollowing.- m Creed Road; Hamel Road; oe Hallyda,le Road The meetiq adjourned at 11:30 P.M.