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h r gu aw vie ria oaf the cth Plannin- Cor rss t#as celled to order a
7;30 °fix ice tai air John'Char-hers ' Plymouth
11tr'at 3400, `,?'
MEMURS PRESUI . rice Chairman John, Nire, Cc,Hssloners Pauba,, Larson,, 111hreinen,
and Parron with. Chairvioningas lou and Coirissioner Stei
arriving later
r., M _ R M.- Ago
STAFF' ES[14I `; r l,;w r tlMev"e o-orientrecto Flair Tremere, Corpunity Pe -
rCoordinator !!ar v Pay, Planning Secrotary Pa ar i Anderson
and Planning Intern AlCottingham.
a :U15:0-rrMiry r Conditional Use Permit
This item wa introduced by staff who reviewed the March 21,, 1980 staff report* Vr.
Ben Liao a a r a -30 percent theirt, r
business was carry wt, He stated that he did e any traffitcr mi
Chet' are located at the opposite end of the shopping center from. r is s n's Super
Valu which Is the heavy traffic area in the shopping tenter. He states, they have
another restaurant at 908 ltlest Broadwaywhich has a carry out Service in it also.
vice Chairran 1411re aectared the public hearing open.
Vice Chainran 11.4ire recognized ir. R. J. Smitht 4000 Nathan Lane who. stated he vias
confused about was not. , i ' gea r* is r a
n. Staff resnonded that this was a public gearing for a conditional use mi for
the carry out service for the restaurant which ertt s is a permitted use.
r` #Smith asked wheth r they 1would be setting a r for "fast food" restau-
rants
s au -
ran s i this wt r* approved, Staff responded there is no roor, for a free-
standing
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s a irr fast food restaurant,, aril the only Precedent there s orae: would be,
for carry out, service, Mr Smith inquired about the hours the restaurant would
in operation. r. Liao responded stating they planned to adhere, to shopping center
hours of 11.00 A.M. Q.D.% Sunday throughThursday, and would rw,.a i n
open until -0 P.M'. on Friday and Saturday nights. He stated they had no w -is
to i st ar:. their , neighbors and should any problems arise they would to k steps to
el imi nate there
Chaimiwian Vasiliou arrived at the meeti ng -
Vice Chafrman Wireclosed the publ io hea ri r1q
NOTION bynmai ss n r Barron, seconded by mrkai s ira r Larson to act on, this
petition this evening.
1' CARRIED 6-0 0 All In Favor
P#Px- M T eorrii ss io,tier Parrot.-..,, s ,'Jd by Corwtissiover Larson, to recon -rend
pp'y-Aim fy7 '2`41A.'h+rzarg5 + c. kN z"xa4 ^lnY1 5 z is si "t+xxx x, sv >ad Iil,4 f II a V1"W I Wi ' : a Fla€ r
for Pr a Joie—V n I.$ a 1ass Il restaurant l a d in the Fir Se, -,sons
hIng 0'nter s .'' ,zwrdna conditions:
1. Therrmip is suhiect to all applicable codes, ordinances, a r -J regulations an,
vtolation thereof shell be grounds for r v a na
All write and waste contrainers shell be storedper to , and no outside
storage gs gyred
ailing and unloading ont- atio as relevant to thisoperation shall be.,
in the v designated areas.,
4. Signage shall he per the approved and adopted Four Seasons Shopping Center
sign criteria.
The premises shall be maintained in a sanitary manner.
The PrrAit # -Albo issuedfor oneyear.
77. The hours of operationshall not extend beyonnd :00P 14. at any time'*
Cmmissioner Parron stated that he did not feel ttit the boors` should present any
problems, but if any shculd arise they can be reviewee. He cautioned the petitioner
not to stars any carryout operations beftre the City icouncil has approved the
conditional #ase ager -r -it
Mra 10111 CARR 10 All in Favor
na'$rrcd 7B78 arra
and Site Flag ARpMval
he read ng of the Parch 21 11980 staff report was waived since only the
petitioner was present. Chairwoman Vaisiliourecognized the petitioners represwita-
tives, Mr. Howard a 19ren, Paul Alms and Donald Poupard, the petitioner. Mr.
Vahlgren reviewed the 1974 variance and site plan approval the site vinich
teas then zoned I-1. Chairwoman k1asiliou corm -tinted that there was no " randfa h r-
ing" f the 1574 proposal. Mr. Pablgren stated he enderstood this but t*here *herewere
similarities between the two proposals.
qtr. Dahlgren showed a s s. and vviewed the effect of the right-of-way as m r
n this site. He stated that the, easement was ''given'' to thein ctnsileration
o f to plan approval for "Uncle John's" restaurant proposal,,including setback
variances.
Cormissioner Steigerwald arri ,ted at 8:05 PJL
ha rwomn Vasiliou requested Mr. Dahlgren to base his r s lr t -i n the present
Ground Round" proposal; Mr. Lahloren responded that the 'history of the Uncle pr's
restaurant was Important to this proposal. Mr. Nlalgrer showed the site 1 with
PSL A T*'A xys' h,v €a N ".h *x 5 T
lip carr` nt setbacks verssu t' oriaittrally err s * r taura rt ; the South side has a 7
font Iz vorsus5 footsetback €gin91M origin -al +I-Vv¢:
s s 3 r it id s ` ' Id „! parkin -,I- landscape
originally called for 17 trees-, u.
w; y show 7 trees; and 43 shruhs, Pahl ron
too close tcqeVler. Te refer°red aqain to the 1074 ` r ,de—off" of rigtt-of vmy., H
h wd the ibis €rd curl'',ing erreaims plans, Ild also the ratr f the
r posedbuilding. Tho seating would r t r 4 1917 pry p ol and the
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p r i spaces vrere -Wr rt as they would nt*e l rori` than I+ rdinure °i< #
e the,pronosed seating. Cars aro sraller today and they f I than,t Ire foot
o.le rirking spaces will suffic-lent to NindleAt a i:r needs of the restaurant.
h imv 110 parking space for approxiritely every 2 112 seats withlin fait
rOst, ttr t4 a
Chairwoman Vasiliou declared tyre pt4bllc hearing open4l
CevQlssi rer ' rron inquired abort the floor plan and how much a rea wis lounge area
and hors mach restaurant. M.r. Pahl9ren responded that Ot, bar t.ou d have ximat - .
ly I 5 bar stools,: and there would be boothes it thge,area which ,aould also be
used as dining space=
Visciission ansued regarding tbe site,,. arranagement of the building and the ordinance
requirements. Mr. Ponald Poupard stated that he had contacted M; -r. Sielhold
Carlson upurchasingmore land o the south,, huh #K n I
for sale. r ss o r i i dr s o hu r e e considered any other
proposal outer than a restaurant for this site. Mr. Poupard responded teat an office
building was not economiically feasible.
Commissioner rrinquired about the hours of operation fr the Ground Round, anti,
Mr. Poupard responded that they were usually A.M. te 1.00 .M., Discussion
ensued relative to the nature of ther ` on and Commissoner Parron noted the
large foyer area which suggested substantial waiting room. or patrons waiting
served since reservations were not taken. H^ stated that ,`is would gave a nega'
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impact on the parkinq capabilities of the site since.., pis the petitioner :indicated.,
the proposed parking with variances was consIdered essential for the amount of seat-
ing pr ps d Staff commented that parking provisions were tight and that staff
agreed with the petitioner that the Citj Ordinaitce restaurant seating formula based
n square footage did ` not realistically respond, to a busy restaurant with a Torg
nr ber of seats. Staff commented that since the use was a conditional use,, problems
generated could be st aject to reviewas in the case of another restaurant, in the
i t which had traffic problems.
Coi rr ssion r Wire asked Mira, Po p rd what the impact upon the raft n urou d be if
less parking spaces were available resulting Erna a design in keeping with the
ord nan r init.-ion standard.Wl-. Poupard responded that they needed at least the
amount proposed and thus the variances viere critical.
Chairwoman Vasiliou stated that problem' are hot easy to solve n a' restaurant sito
once they arise, and . that it wouldd e er to consider any forseeable:problems
noes, rather than try, to rune then later after the restaurant is in existence.
Chairwoman Vasiliou closed the public hearing.
JT
WIN! yoi i ssfon`+e iierwa seconded beyo!*,t i s ner Larson to take action
4 -hs ,p h#
N y Chairwonan Vasillou, seconded.! Coriissioner Pireinen to recti mend d' il
corte-itional use perznit and site plan for a "Ground Round" Class I restattsn
or Iflonald Pourarud eased on tb-efollowing:
Me site caanwAsupport the proposed intense use.
An undosircable pr n would be est Bbl i shed by Permitting the requested
approximate 17 variat-es for any ase.
3able less it '.ense R-1 uses could, he developed on the site with .hr icy
fewer variances*,
4. There i s ne, deoonstrable,pr h nsi hardship wo warrant the i-equeslted
variances needed f,,)r the proposed developnent.
C di goner Ihr nen #tented th h `hh--
way easerientincluling perhaps and arses., 'dot sizej, end parking but the variances
needed for this avl n are Icus d by an effortja i the site. Re stated
reducing the nurtsir of seats MSht solve part of the problem.
Co-missioner 1hreinen nw;edthat in 1974 the Planning 016,i issl had retomewded
danial butthe City Council hadp vv-! the proposed s!te plan. tie statod that
hould the Council take a simllar,ourse, the prop signage should be iewe as -
excessive for the locatior, and the landscapitg should be in accordance with, the
adopted landscape criterl'a.
Commdsioner 1-11ire stated Chit, h reader hoar*d signage should v .,
Coniissfoner StoigerwaldcoriT,--ientee that the varitiices were a matter of degree in
elatioq to a small site.d that. thuldresult in a workable site. He
disagreed with the motion.
MIMI CARRIES Comi issioner Steigerwald Against
F
This item intro staff whi reviewed the tUrch 21, 1960, staff report*
Com iss er it stayed concerns VII variances e - hpetitioner*
Mr. o Mk'r stated his c e s w h staff r o d i trail wi is and
setbacks, s stated that lot "11, Block 3 could be built on. Staff cor".Mented
hif the trail corridor tu*ere to oe deeded to the City, rather than hproposed
etisementss the d vre p r could not utilise the land area by having the yap*dsetbacks
from the proper s rpd stated h r have
building s =th t,%s frorm the edsement line rather than from the property line based .
on concern with proximity of the tail to single family dwellings. Staff explained
N Arch 26, 196,11,
the tho A V RL..4 R*a
a l Vty Ctir < I would x t a" v sw0ha n arrae t vi g a is 1. itiorsb
n sins kriareaspy vi$l'ie Ny 'a&, ratherrt t`n ° eeedew"oYti ta
If also coy'Irxlnted that proposeff Lot 21, Pleck` 1dA rot appear o h buildahle
i r consideration of the deutile`'F'o'ot, ,
ct unity Vu opwns ; Coordirater Mar y shot:ad slides of the site. NscussiO
Ir,uedl rcegarxiiry the profile -,ne elevations after graOing of the site.
iris ner Tlireinen statted concorn that the petitioner at' not provided detailed
profile drawingsawi of th, prop gradingn spy on the Hoath side as the
k. 'oriExtensive
gradi, and the resulting elevations with respect to neighboring; properties.
Ch ,he public heiring open.
t4, r iiia , 16915 Natban Lane, stated he- has a house north o
HY is curiousiou about hfinished athe land. Five property—owners haveproperty—owner
installed an giJf.-* r° d drainage system to the west side of rountain Leas, and he
toted that ; Th that athey wa rm have probleris.
Staff responded at the dr inaqe of the area would reviewed by the City Engineer;
she neighhors should wtorl with the petitioner regardingdin thepithng area on the
Varelspoy which provides the pending and drainagei r the nrarea.
Clarence Schorrer, 1830 Fountain Lane, stated he would likeo See Fountain Lane
from the South deed- d- end nether tiaracul-de-sac, -and inquired v;heti er t o trail
wrou d paved trail. Staff responded that the trail wvro u be surfaced,, and i
norna I ly S feet wide. fir.corner stated that thn water draining down; fron the
rorth is goingover the road instead of through a culvert; he was concernedwhere
t would 90 --into the pored on the Krels property after 4he grading r* would i
come onto their property?
t r . Cd Karels, 116 East 49th Street, Minneapolis,, stated he was present representing
his riother, Its. Arels, who owns he property adjacent to the east. her,
It. NOW Karels of 1130 Fountain Lane was also present« He stated that fie was
opposed to 19th Avenue continuing throughis notb's prope-ty to the east and the,
have always felt that v w about it. They are concerned about the ek,ense
constructing the roadway. xii x rr 17hreinen inquired as to h -r they rr d
to ,access that land whea it was ui i later date, Mr. Michael Karels
responded that they did not intend to develop,the AnQ but it could be l- -sated
in from Dunkirk.
Mr. Bill Pribble, -1172-OU #- 19th Avenue Ar h, stated that he f'elrtthere is going
be a "cliff 'remaining between their property and thy' proposed'subdivision on the
east end, as it is such a steep drop-off now. He also questioned the trail easement
versus dedicated,outlot, and the trespassing probleriby people crossing 'his property
to access Oai'wood Schoolv.
Mlr. Bill Thurk, 1825 Fountaine, stated that he would like Fountain Kne tfe
remain dead end or a cul-de-sac. see is in favor f eliminating Lot 27 'r~ i the
7at'. a' he has drainage concerns afneut his yardt and els the gradfina
cause p 'Mens for his woperty*
ter. Pavi W'i leets, 1746 Gar a n d Cera, stated at v g ad rig dra nage
pr 4in, h area,, and lie would ".` ,- to see semnie harddesion criteria 1",efore
the FIanning C eI ss oa eS a this pe'Otion, Staff stated that the d-
t n the 'rels, nro per willh voii v f A '' + ta" a : w aorw xera ,- ,t AX5 x -.. 3 s i.". xr .w F£
ens the. area, kind is on the City stom. drainaSe plan.
Mr. Myren stated that the engineer that is doing the iwrork woulef resolve all t1le
topograpIky' -.4 i He4said that they@o hAAd thee.: private ii:4 tile 9
north,. th,. would talo it into account i n their proposal,
CO q ss-r ori questioned iters r 4 of the Engineer's Memorandum,; staff said
it wra d be, Oecked.
ormissiner Vire stated that: progress had been rade € ith this s0division proposal
but that pas were not yet cormple° ,, especially Lis to lot variances,, design, and
dra i paqe*
Pavid Wil it-3. erphasized the neld for a through-profile as requested earlier by the
ftla 'in COrmMiSs ion, including the the t side.
Chairwmran Vasillou closed the public hearing.
ITT t ' I r l#fir , seconded r iss ner Barron res
of Pon Pyron for preliminary plat approval of 'Takdale West" because of incomplete
Ir nim and further redesigns and information should reflect the, following..
Staff no. s ,relative to lot variances and street design,,,
2. 'grails should be dedicated as outlots and easements*
3. Impalas of or uponshe; pr va-drainage s o `the north.
4. kxistinq 3nd appropriate proposed area drairwage patterns should be Indicated
in detail includingcomplete profile elevations of the north and south sides.
S. The grade of the trail an the north side especially relative era s -
tion from no -zz i s n era l sou' b s oma
Commissioner ; Parron stateM the basic need was for the prtitiorer to ha Q a qualified
n'eer rsn as r:an` the questions li a -rt raised a the a
earn and a s n4 is eti , stated that i wt s apparent the petitioner
couldnot fully respond to those issues,.
C_si oner°' Barron withdrew his second to the notion, stating that if that motion
failed intended to move to deny as lie doesn't want to leave Ti's matter pending.
Commissionor Thr nen seconded the notion.
March 6, !A FP
00 rurran, Vali iou stated that thisthis was a nret itan she v v
YxCx$LhA3Yt", miaplavMsraipe ula. she. igu$g e her c"vn troted i
1t * and -Felt`' the neighbors h ori*.J f aren't
n
M . 8 R.s '« that A.+4.0 'x a$i'b .c G+'i.,v E.. r wR 'Y-
tictUr rw' ISS 031 1 erzefit, of a complete presentation a' I nfo n t o".
CoW+i,wSmFixa4ane f.*orr,i IterVire tpteed that dscant property wkn r
u "h,..vjk 4be renotified $$Yr& this '. i t Gn. K Sdeduled o appear on a P& $&"$ F nj 4#i°'pTc4A 5: fk
a
C ti agai n.
r nen stated.. ratters regarding .rop sp IV Avenue N!ort j ,m 1
MOSSonto Mphway 101 should be further researched; he stated his')r r*
Man the proposed road would not Signwith existing r7.j t-o ' .v*the west side
Highway
Wmsiliou exrental that if items are not complete whe ne"is are pr-
paree, the iturs should: p*!,ced on the agenda*
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The rooting recessed at 10:30 41% and- resumed, at 10:40 P.M.
Approval
adi rg of the Vlarth ?1, 19-',FC staff reportrt w waived.
Mt l 1hy Carrissioner Threitrnn, recorded Q• - Con toner Nfire to approve the -
a -y Pruce Construction, with the variarce for 2,,sitgkPs.; in acconiance, te pri posed
with sulbmitted, Plans
MOTIONCARRIED in 0vor j
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Reading f the Mbar° h 21,,L M0 staff report wa s waived. Mr, Rick Sathre of McCorros
KnutsonAssociates representing th .petitioner, stated he needed clarificItion of
Item ti3 of the Ergineer s Q randum; they have requested the City to do the street
it the Pi P situ t wow present r the p i 49th
Avenue and have to take it outlater. In referencerIter! 45 in the neer'
Wri-I they, requested the Commission to clarifywhether the easoment uro
have to be dedicated. nowjr, or if It could be &Wc4ted in the- future.with. the site
plan for the northerly Par . Chairwoman WIN& stated t1lat this concern would
be nutd in the minutes end carried forwar4f to the Council. Mr.. hr* pf e$ped'
condern about Item 010 in the staff report, and staff explained thatitwas now
standard edur vi up the development contracts for revise prior to Cita
r y
Councilreview f gal they contact the City Engineer j.i
t quire .
ap re :"? for the ' #aa.'Int-l clamd .$s as
t I ot t! s a pa rt of that, ap ri,vd _emlq pn't knewn as RPV,; 77.1"j, SiJNject
Mve mprentl vlan approval datcj Fielhruary 1?7$ as referenced in Citi, Council
I. and appropriate de- matt. , arproved NAY
he t i ty At. torney, s!la I I he f I I ed wituj. the fi-naal plat indicating +he same
vie, al's the foll"ming..
o ro a n r i s tm,s ,andgip °
ani case, exceed 240 umi s,, with at feast 1 units affor4able to
ami `des of lm to rvC;orate income, or 169 units utithout, the res ri
nuinher of low t mo;nt units. Np rover of the February 8, 7
clievelOrVent, Oan attJ 1 us>rm idoes" not constitute site r la approval 'dor
the mult'.ple d1wellings on Oudot P`-
X -ion sha 11 bePetett1,iK t Fees i . uof dedicawtn -
detenmined acc r di n City Commill Volicy,in force at th` mactual site
ment.
4. %t lot A is intended as required tai corridor t be developed and deeded
the City wi t- , el v Itqmrlent of Cutlet P.
a 4 4T t
a a z a rf v. v xf aucx.x ar € 4iic Fla t S i'4nd
recorded
with Hennepin County.
6 At'l trash,, debris and deed trees shall be removed from the property as, verified
the City InSPeCtion V l r t the owners expense.
Appropriate drainage easements as approved by the Cite Engineer shall
conveyed, to the City at the time of filing of final ptat.
V. Driveway access onto tlathan Lane and onto 49th Avenue North shallbe r-
ind, at the time of site plan approval,
9. Restaurant. a shall be limited to Class I rest rants.,
Prior to City. Council review final plat developers shall provide to the
City Engineer all neces..-ary informationfor the dei*mat contract z and
petitloner shall either execute said contract or , pr ,,,. in writing ac wl.-
edgm n "that said qtr t has been reviewed stating
ot *
ections or exceptµ
N?TIPM1 CARRIED - l in Favor
Chairwoman si i cormaiented that the Commission did ` not take exception to the
items raised by the tit e r relative to the Engineer's Memorandum.
C1Aj MI sc`"`g'
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Reath q: he March 21, T staffa p$ was yadve4$ !#.. r. Fe,Vorp} s£ -,j re,6.y ey w
a e .'.Ores, iqquIreI, in reforerice to ite N13 in the reponr .`' if they could
get avt ra ,:,-f the entit e proN ct Staff responded ` if t hp'rt is atk r k
in VIOy ewe o#gym- t and therd ance or coudes change there. vmulo be a revie,;) A the
rerQfininiq p ase;y, new ' quirei,,e s trOu d apply ul ther'J e
Y o aTS Ir in the staff report, and, staff
rest—Iod it was 1 r k d e rfg, determination that a n environmental
s e s sm e itl i rksheet i-,*uld 'i the.needed. . tt over siiid thfat wrtuld €ire
r uaphoresport sfctrom -he State.
tV .ubro- s also , z:ori thr} t. carr pool program for she r er,
arxi that they like = xlrov ide 4v sol i ne,. site. Re viajnted to mow, if they
ga", 4.. rg ud@der4$'.;'°,'" dCff. s,. '^'ptlEf«'s"e tank w7 that cea`ay 4ok#'4* continue this
prografh;--i i rviara , 1':,, v h, they should subrft plans to staff acne
Mllsi!Oflf, Os il $I-- - -v-ate 4ssue to assure p -roper evaluation in terris of
d e and Ordinance#"
Mr. vubrowski also questioned t l didf"e e " of the proposed trees for he rd
Plan. He t-a than in w of r = r gees they proposeplaint crSti
Oter, he felt that- aa V-riattce-, was i -i
arder to allow them to pl nchiatn trees
s $fix rissi lir , seconded v
7 r:i r Barron,. ,. o r ecapproval
Of the site plan for Miles Fl.,.-,I s s bjfll,_ , the following nti ra .
4.
zm 4 q;AU if I 4,1%.L11
vas 4^4 4
LrFq,'
Pnta rk dedlicwtionfees in lieu of dedioatioq in an' antount, determined
acicordling to the verifiedi acreage and the dedication policy i effect at the
time of buildirg perr-tit issuance.
3. All was- and waste container4 shall be stored within thestructure and n
outside storage is permitted.
4. Cxqnliance with the City Police and City Code with respect to firehydrants
andFire lanes s
Curbinti,and draining design of the * tio- fiance witht d i '
Rzesolution No. 79-73.
6. Specific approval is for Pease I consisting of approximately 5,4,750 square
Feet of office building with I r l n as indicated on the submitted plin
SuhsequWt phases shall be subject to, Mte plan approval- procedures prior
to issuance of building per it$ at VjfjiCj, M tirne,,I, among other things, parking
needs will be evaluated.
7. The environnental worksheet r s if required,, sball be com pleted prior
to the issuance of any permits,
1s _ w s 0 iF 4f required "ti rt ee or oa i a of t * t'o l;r")v
tmteryed for 24 ron,.
Na" x until finalPIN th e =3
c <r for its€i k ne Puniness
r +,
A variance Wall be granted to l kn, pru ase trees ) be planted "! j;Qh
f ez'` In Vie nbo "M1},t'+Y`ed reYver then 2 ' 'nt$"+ay r ev - Ain, P tl,:- h^:yA R: ;'4.ti C X".0 k... x 1+ . Y.. is P
r % {4.,':6i; v.T4 ierir''w Lx 'R
b v 07me 47iu'. -ver Ehr'4, i n'a n, ecorr d Q; WrIsi coFGt'6S'r C. ar# ,, n , arend "Jae i7a n
r,-)t,on and Condition
11 var arce shell be grented>a0o" Mr64a sjuare feet navepla..e sign
dt a 2 "Foot sett ack' per sbMit` e p lens, in additf ln to thewall sigm,
43u 4 a Va2 f oib called for a Seok, taT' the ot on as L#r"4ae ab,inded'4
All in Favor
Division, ILE
Amok
of tato I°larch e , VC1 staff report for this iter was waived, "r Fob
W; representing Twin tity Federalspotko,titabout ` N 1 ttern.,
stated they Would chain of the access o turaappin ,mall parking rzi wki, Twin
My Federal as close& They haverequested hr access for the nvinience of
althoughTWO
Qty Federzal ustomers., 'Ifty have a co-ripetitive need for drive Up facilities,
the volume is not heavy with the Wditkn of remote - i° r"'mals ami
telephoni tranmr. WV reforred to a study does ' as s uper, which owe
averageIs a
volume drive Grpcustomers e 1 TW City ffi (one
had '* hs downtownt.ao a t a. f ` show -edn: :: 4 10*
ter. Galush cotr?ented On pcssible future "ring road" rlti-on,ardi ,%
err ' ors t west side, ahoy wi t preservev uch re area Around- ` d in
as possible. T showed graphitsw `our possible trr mems, and commented
on each one,
halrvkwuin Vasiliou noted correspondonce date.. Mrah 21,, 1980 from the Riple Grove
Planning Director As to concerns with h proposedri - Triough to the shopping
Staff CoArur *-eWth t IM'le Orwoe platnno—,15r a and stated that
r olw*uld have similar concerns if thesituation eery reversed, Staff also
noted that tht stropping .enter had been appricved Jointly hby beth coninunities and that
integration Of a facility such as this had not been contop'>ated.
Staff also caniftented that another aspeW of thispetition tis Jie proposed. "dot
division of whathad' been viewed as a single` r 4 l; and that the owner hud not,
submitted any plans showing proposed ease and access 4, -or tete northerly par°cel *
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iizi k *sem t 0,.etherxr Ql i wf ttd e` :c * (* ri i r i , rt s s. "x,. , x<e ," ;`- €:n. `.fit, : ' rnvP
is ac c a" greet to the c:a er Count
o N,xmiussir,r,tie,r V`irc ineuirecl whether shoppint r nappy s agrFed. witl. t
he parking art,m, and. -r.al-lst r" onded tha t c
i'Nyfi^ ,`% r"ei M t k'.`."
i ul"s`p; seo tr ,f
o: -th i !1.0, and ba ; ;there wms no "t -urn arcumv, availatm fed" ` ;. ss+omer
r i ' co"montO that there appeamd to he ri-M, on the site ttN "sta `P;" only four
oars', ro,i the ri, u7p vsfndovr te, thyi ontrance f, VArwxod Lare, c` rd, that there
s olN a tee provide for, rore cars stackinji on ttie site.
i sc i ensued 'egar i e, h Ori v uwin tielc i "al -cess and egress, ess, t-, rd
the dei r of the sife itself with regard, to traffic pi bws,,,: r*, Oxflnktalted
thal. thew business h(jurs wOW 9:00 A.M. to 4:00 Pt,4. v;pekjjy rith. the offlep
r olrai open utdri 7:0 -i*%Fridays. ` stat=ed e e not sloe <1 et)nfli
with tile huSiness hours of thp sho-ppinx"t
V si 1crr Statekj she 1133 CtnCerneO with Potential traffic prcthllems glean
the proposed site d Opening the Prudentialifacility
OSS o tyna 0 4
install remoteeller_ c ;es in rPrudentialui i€ e i _ t d
pro,. ) ft w x at
tr., rc r i
rhreinen comrented that since tile petitionersInfurtherdisctQmr, in
concern. was with the convenience fog shopping tent x r patrons as reflected in the
proposed r 1 ve-throw ,,, it vmuld seem more ropri ate to install remote Iteller
facilities h shopping centerfitit e t thereby eliminatingi k ng
ta
G need r people to
rive between the Ot t ie s that agreed with thecomercomerns of the Vlaple
Greve Plammor erre did, nit see the need for the proposed, dries- woug e to
thraffic onto Qutnwoo ,ire stated that a ring road concept as 5hown b they petitioner
v rr h preferablewith a r let- drive u tenor cif , the 110st or
somth sides of the er di -{ 11r. Galush commmented that the teller facility h s
Proposed ern, the north side for architectural: reasons and the i `,_tr i r layout of the
cry.
Chairwoman ' s i i re suggested that since O rmte layouts had been shovin including
cone with a ring road concert a w m. for more :,tackinq l seem Inorder
to defer the` i9tern so that revised plans could he prepared prior to recommendationt
e City CounciLl
Tyr. Galush stated thatthey. would 'likes approval as soon as possible, and would -bide
hY Condititms the Planning,m.mis i i t direct.
MOTION by Cornmaissioner Threinon, sec-ooed hewCormissfoner Ste' erwald to defer +
request of Twi City rederall for redosign,, se ct to the- fallowing conditions.
I. COMPliance with the City Englmeer'sMemorandum
No building permit issuance until lot division; and all related eausements have
been i led, as approved by the< City EngineOrA
fLvdrants and fire- lanes per C-ity Gude and Policiesq
t
xm= A gckna k • btu . „ ' ' : yr,( 3 6, V k t.f+.`£t3 ,u 3C r4e .,,e e,„ ib v+v r ^x`W,-4 .. t,: '"d' Mireh ., 4:
S. _1 j nmittal of required, site marfm rima nes quarantee to b for
Pay *on fees in lieu of dedi rn ,ased tupvn verified
acreage in accor;,xFanc-%e with Dedication Policy in effect at timw of permit
su:$
ar ianc for we 1.
9. No, connection to the mall <parkipq ard driving arear..
0. An on sato ring mad --looped traffic pattern should provided s > t
eliminate r*astacking onto Qu mid Lane.
M101 XN CARRIED A] I i re Fa vor
Reading of the %U rch, 21,, 10,80 'staff report vm s wa i ved St lted the extra lot
and variances requested. fir. Jwn s Hale i s present and coi z*i d rr t- setback
n Lot a7 stating that there did not appear variance. He a1so stated
MOTION by CommissionerThreinen, seconded by Comraissioner Barron rmui
approval f tintprel imiy, a.- for "Armstrong Ri "ubjec U, the fol v *rr
conditions.-
w
r till builOing setbacks shall be in accordance with omlnanceqr-
s
No driveway access shall permittcd onto vven.1e N"orth with the exmption
f pr*s ,
4. Ptah=.ent of park dedication feos in lieu ofdedication for 16 dots in accordance
with CU!"rent park dedication policy in effect at the time filing final plat.
5* No building perm,its to be issued until municipal utilities are p i y avail-
able to she property
4 Compliance with t C mcils i s-. No., - regardinq subdivisions cr iIrxadjacentstormwateryholdingareas.
7. .oval or dernolition of all existing structures not in confomance wtth
Ordinance Standards with the exception of the existing single family dwellings
n 'proposed Lots I and5