HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 12-06-1978PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY OF PLYMOUTH
December 6, 1978..
A regular meeting of the Plymouth Planning Commission was called to order byChairmanDavidDavenportat7.85 p.iq, in the Council Chambers of the Public Works
8uilding 14900 23rd Ave. No.
MEMBERS PRESENT; Chairman Davenport, Commissioners Schneideri Barron, Threinen,:
Vasili:o:u and Wire
MEMBERS ABSENT.. Commissioner Erickson
STAFF PRESENT: Blair Tremere, Planning Director, and Mildred Jansen, Secretary
A 401 City of Plymouth (upon inquiry by Floyd Olson) Determination of
Correct Zoning
Background history for zoning of this site (11425 Hwy. 55) was reviewed by staffperPlanningCommissionreportdatedDecember4, 1978. This request would be
correction of the 1978 zoning map designating this site as R -1A.
The Public Hearing was opened by Chairman 'Davenport, who noted none of the npti-
fieri property owners was present,
Commissioner Threinen stated that the intent of the 1973 rezoning was to eventually
zone all property along Cottonwood Lane for business,
Mr, FloydOlson, owner, stated that the proposed occupancy would be an accountant's
office.
There being no further discussion, Chairman Davenport closed the Public Hearing.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen, supported by Commissioner' Wire, that the
Planning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of rezoning from R -IA
to B-1 of the property at 11425 Hwy. 55, subject to the condition that the structure
comply with the applicable building code provisions for office -type uses.
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) All in favor
A-449 City of Plymouth Rezoning from B-2 to B-3
Superior Ford & Baldwin Chevrolet properties)
Staff reviewed the background per the December 4, 1978 Commission report,
Chairman Davenport opened t,e Public Hearing for rezoning of land in the southwest
quadrant, County Roads 10 & 18 (Superior lord, 9700 -- 56th Ave. N. and Baldwin
Chevrolet, 9825 - 56th rive. N.) from B-2 to B-3 and from B-2 to R-0.
Chairman Davenport noted none of the notified property owners was present, and closed
the hearing.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Schneider, seconded by Commissioner Barron, that the
Planning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of rezoning from B--2 to
B-3 of property in the southwest quadrant, Co. Roads 10 & 18 (Superior Ford site
at 9700 - 56h Ave. N. and Baldwin Chevrolet site at 9825 - 56th. Ave, N,); and that
the west 190' of Outlot D be rezoned from B-2 to R -O,
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-
10)
All in favor
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -`'- December 6, 1978
A-404 James Thompson for Super America Stations Conditional Use Permit and
Site Plan Approval
Report dated December 5, 1978 to the Planning Commission was reviewed by staff for
the .82 acre site of the former Shell Oil Co. The petitioner submitted two site.
layouts -- "A" a rough sketch which provides parking within ordinance standard,
and "E" (preferred by petitioner) in which the area to the rear of the building
would not be used, a 34' x 58' canopy (variance) over new gas pump islands in front
of the building, parking along south property line, and two curb cuts on the !lest
Medicine Lake Drive for one-wav-in and one -way-out traffic flow. The proposed use
would involve retailing food and other convenience items, as well as gas and oil
sales but no automotive repair..
Chairman Davenport stated that the last petition was for an A-1 Rental Store, which
Commissioner Schneider said was denied because of outside storage and it would
intensify traffic.
Chairman Davenport recognized James Thompson, architect, who introduced John
Hogenson, Manager of Design Construction and Maintenance of Super America. Mr.
Hogenson outlined the proposed retail outlet. Based on previous studies, he stated
that 2 - 3% of spontaneous traffic on street would patronize store, and he believed
500 cars a day would be realistic.
Chairman Davenport recognized Mr. and Mrs. Eugene Rogers, 1029 West Medicine 'Lake
Drive (15 -year- residents). Mr. Rogers stated that if Super America were to Of."grate
at the site, he preferred Scheme with parking in the front, as their bedrrums
were near the rear of the site. He was also concerned with traffic and long ;ours
of operation. Mrs. Rogers stated that she is concerned with maintenance bo,a4se
of poor upkeep in the past. She stated there has also been alot of noise from big
trailers in the past.
Marian Deininger, 1100 Evergreen Lane No., a 20 -year resident, :stated she and others
were opposed to the proposal, as the situation was bad with the former service
station use. She stated concern with the green strip, site upkeep, and effect on
th. neighborhood.
Mr. Hogenson stated the site was under option from Shell Oil Co.
James Thompson indicated Scheme "A" Would not violate setbacks for parking, but
was presented only to represent potential parking capacity, He noted. topography
and convenience for customers dictated Scheme "E".
Chairman Davenport closed the Public Hearing,
MOTION by Commissioner Barron, seconded by Commissioner Wire, to take action,
MOT]ON CARRIED (6-0-0) All in favor
MOTION by Commissioner Vasiliou that the Planning Commission recommend to the City
Council approval of the conditional use permit and site plan by James Thom son for
Super America Stations at the northwest corner of Hwy, 55 & W, Medicine Lake Drive,
subject to the following conditions.
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -3- December 6, 1978
A-404 continued)
1. The conditional use permit is subject to all, applicable codes, or 4anri
regulations and violation thereof shall be grounds for revocation
2. The conditional use permit is issued to the petitioner as operator
transferable.
3: Compliance with the city engineer's memorandum for this project,
C Petitioner shall submit to the city evidence of Hennepin County permits for
revised curb cuts.
5, Outside storage and display of merchandise is expressly prohibited.
6. A performance guarantee be termed for 18 months and shall be submitted to assure
proper installation of required site improvements..
The motion died for lack of a second.
Commissioner Schneider referred to proposed hours of operation from 6:00 a.m.. -
12.00 p.m. 7 days a week„ and the site was next door to a R-1district.
Commissioner Vasiliou stated she would rather see a national concern go in with
potential for longevity„
Commissioner Threinen stated there are many permitted uses under B-3, and the present
site could be easily adapted for office or personal servees. Commissioner Wire was
concerned with traffic and felt there were already too Pziy nearby gas stations.
Is Commissioner Threinen also felt such proposal would jeopardize the corner, He
cited Section 9 -- conditional uses -- the effect on character of neighborhood
should be taken into account and any change should be to upgrade also B-3 uses
should be considered that are not conditional use permits
MOTION by Commissioner Threinen, supported by Commissl*jh r Schneider, that the
Planning Commission recommend to the City Council denial for conditional use permit
and site plan by James Thompson for Super America Stations at northwest corner of
Hwy. 55 and W.Medicine hake Drive, citing the following reasons:
1. The previous Conditional Use Permit for a gasoline service station on the
site is not transferable, and the proposed retail use differs substantially
from that use.
2, retail activity such as the proposed use would have an adverse impact upon
the site and the adjacent neighborhood, especially with respect to hours of
operation and traffic generation,
3. There are ci. variety of permitted uses in the B-3 district which would be
adap:.able to the site and which would not be detrimental to the property ortothearea, the owner has not proposed such permitted uses.
4, The character of the proposed use is not deemed consistent with the Condi-
tional Use Standards in Section 9 of the loning Ordinance as evidenced by
the intensity and by the variances proposers as essential to the use,
MOTION CARRIED (5-1 0} Commissioner Vasiliou voted
against denial
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES 4_ December 6, 1978
A-860 Prudential Insurance Company Site Pian Approval
Staff summarized the report to the planning Commission dated ,December 5 1978 forthetwo-phase development consisting of 104,000 sq, ft, speculative industrialbuildingsona14.3 acre site ;at the southeast corner of 13th Ave. No, avid BerkshireLane. He cited variances for parking, rear yard setback and signs;
There was considerable discussion regarding signs -- uniform size and design, type, number, visibility, ,purpose, location, and aesthetic effect,
Paul Strother, project engineers stated he was concerned with the total sign treat-
ment. He stated he broke down sign area into 3 signs (one at; each entrance), aswellasnameplatesigns, and felt the aggregate area was within the intent of
ordinance and that,the treatment was aesthetically pleasing,
Staff referred to ordinance sign provisions, and especially setback requirements,
Charles Ratloff referred to the "proof of parking" plan and growth flexibility ofparkingneedsformanufacturingandwarehousing.
Mr. Ferro stated that at the present time the building had not been led ed, He
further stated that the proposed signs along the building would be freestanding inthesoddedareas, mounted on steel tubes with concrete foundations. Each companycouldhavetheirownmessage, and, by lease provision, each tenant would maintainthesigns,
MOTION was made by Commissioner Barron, supported by Commissioner Threinen, that
the Planning Commission recommend to the City Council, approval of the site ,plan
for a two-phase speculative industrial building project for PrudentialInsurance
Company, subject to the following conditions;
1, Compliance with the englitcer"s memorandum for this project,
2. Payment of park dedication fees-in=lieu of dedication in the amount of $12,155,00850peracrex14.3 acres).
3. .Site plan approval shall be required for Phase 11 should changes occur in the
approved plan or in applicable codes and ordinances prior to taking of building
permits.
4. Fire pane and fire hydrant design and location shall be subject to _approval bytheinspectiondivision.
5. Plan approval includes the "proof of parking plan" showing ultimate parking
capability within ordinance standards, installation of spaces may be deferred
to permit provision for 198 spaces as indicated on the approved plan for both
phases, subject to 0Aermination by the city that additional spaces are required
as certificates of occupancy are issued; and, at such time that additional
parking is deemed necessary, it shall be installed per approved plans prior
to issuance of further certificates of occupancy,
6. A performance guarantee termed for 18 months from the date of building permit
issuance shall be submitted to assure completion of site improvements, a separate
guarantee may be submitted for each phase as approved by the Planning Department,
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -5 December 6, 1978
A-860 continued)
7. Outside storape of materials, equipment and trash disposal facilities shall
ba prohibited.
8. The front yard area adjacent to 13th Ave.. No. shall be sodded and a 4' earth
berm 'shall be provided as per the approved treatment along Berkshire Lane.
9. Plan approval includes a 5' rear yard setback variance in recognition of the
railroad trackage.
10. The 8' x 1E' entry signs shall be set back at least 25' (variance of 251) and
the size of name plate signs shall be 32 sq.. ft. (variance of 28 sq. ft)..
MOTION TO AMEND was made by Chairman Davenport., supported by Commissiwlor Wire, to
add the following as condition #11: "'Signs shall be uniform in size and design
MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED (6-0-0) All in favor
MOTION TO AMEND was made by Commissioner Schneider, seconded by Chairman Davenport,
to add the following as condition #12:, „All lettering on entry signs shall be atleast8' above ground."
MOTION. TO AMEND CARRIED(6-0--0) 411 in favor
MOTION TO AMEND was made by Chairman Davenport, supported by Commissioner Schneider,
to add the following as condition #13: "The entry signs shall identify!' the project
only, and not tenant areas,
MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED (6-,0-0) All In fayor
The Commissioti then voted on the main motion as amendedt
MOTION CARRIED_ (6-0.0) All in favor
A-865 Ryan Construction Co. for United Hardware Co. Conditional Use Permit and
Site Pian nova"
The report to the Planning Commission of December 5, 1978 {,las summarized by staff
regarding petitioner's proposal for a planned industrial development of a corporate
headquarters (office and data processing) at the northwest cornerof 49th Ave. No.
and Nathan Lane; consisting of a 40,328 sq. ft. office building on 6 acres of a16.5 acre site, The ntenLion would; be that the remainirng 10,5 acnes would not be
subdivided' but used in future expansion. Staff mentioned grade differential between
east and west sx des, as well as possible prorated park dedication fee.
Chairmz,n Davenport opened the Public Hearing.
Rick Sather, con%stant for McCombs -Knutson, introduced Mr, Nye of United Hardware,
John Sullivan and Oave Coleman of Ryan Construction, and Gus Gustafson, Tandscape
architect.
Commis;,ioners Schneider and Threinon commented on the 301 setback (vs. ordinance
standard of 501) for the proposed business sign, and Commissioner Schneider noted
that the site is across the street from a residential district.
Chairman Davenport closed the hearing.
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -5 [december 6, 1978
4D (A-865 continued)
MOTION m,; trade by Commissioner Schneider, supported by Commissioner Wire, that
the Planning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of the 40,328 sq. ft.
corporate headquarter office building for United Hardware at the northwest corner
of 49th Ave. No. and Nathan Lane, subject to the following conditions:
1, Compliance with the city engineer's memorandum for Vnis project.
2. Performance guarantee for completion of all approved site improvements termed
for 18 months,
3. The conditional use permit is issued for single -tenant corporate office facility;
and any change in. the character of the approved use shall be subject to review
and approval.
4. Frojtt yard setback .of the proposed, business sign may be 30' as indicated,
provided that no other permanent freestanding signery is erected.
5. All areas on the property outside of the proposed construction lim,ts which are
disturbed during construc i:on s?.11 be restored through sending or sodding.
6-. Payment of park dedicaticri fees -in -lieu of dedication in the amount of $5,100
6 acres x. $850 per acre) which is for the south portion of the property only;
the balance of the property (approximately 10.5 acres) shall be subject to
applicable fees et time of development.
7. Fire lane and fire hydrant location shall be sub,ect to applicable city ordinances
as determined by the inspection division.
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) All in favor
A-821 Bruce W. Hubbard for 6obco Inc. Site Plan Approval for
Planned Industrial
The proposal for an office/warehouse of 8,700 sq. ft. on a 100' x 1501 site at
9806 - 10th Ave. No, for a masonry contractor use, was reviewed per the December 5,
1978 report.
Commissioner Threinen referred to staff's re.ommendation;for a 2' variance on the
green strip with a eider drive. Mr. Hubbard stated he was agreeable to that. He
also stated there would be no outside storage, the hedges would be used for screening,
and the sign would be constructed of concrete blocks.
Commissioners discussed sign setback, the one faced low -profile sign, which would
be placed parallel to the building and street, and its visibility.
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -7- December 6R 1978A-821 continued)
MOTION by Commissioner Barron, supported by Commissioner Alasillou, that the
Planning Commiission recommend to the City Council approval of the 8,700 sq, ft,
office/warehouse building proposed by Bruce Hubbard for Bobco Inc, in the north-
east quadrant of Nathan .Lane and 10th Ave, No,, subject to the following conditions,,
I. Compliance with the city engineer's memorandum for this project,
2. Performance guarantee for landscaping and private improvements termed for18months.
3. Outside storage of waste and waste containers shall be prohibited, Any -outside
storage of inventory products shall be permitted only responsive to a condi,-,
tional usepermit. which must be specifically applied for and granted,
4, Payment of park dedication fees -in -lieu of $850.
5. Removal from the site of a.11 diseasedelm' trees at owners'' expense.
6. All site areas not otherwise improved shall be sodded,
7. Approval include side yard setback variances in recognition of the narrowness
of the site, provided that the west green strip shall be 13' wide adjacent to
the building, and the driveway shall be 14' wide,;
MPOTION TO AMEND was made by Commissioner Schneider, seconded by Commissioner Threinen,
to add the following as condition #8 "A variance of 301 -for the sign be approveddue ;to narrowness of site, parking layout and visibility,
MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED (60,0) All in favor
The Commission then voted on the main. motion as amended,
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) All in favor
A-723 Richard Smith Final Plat Approval
Staff reviewed the December 5, 1978 report, stating that it reflects conditions of
preliminary plat approval.
Kate .Marx of McCombs -Knutson noted compliance with easements, and Commissioner
Threinen commented ontheextraordinary long Lot 5 with minimal building areas,
MOTION by Commissioner Wire, supported by Commissioner Threinen, that the PlanningCommissionrecommendtotheCityCouncilapprovaloffinalplatforMedicineLake
Estates Second Addition., north of 28th Avenue No. and westerly of Oakview Lane,
subject to the following conditions;
1. Compliance with the provisions of the city engineer's memorandum for this project,
2. Dedication of storm water drainage easement to the city for all plat area below
elevation 930 feet, to satisfy the requirements established with the approval,
of Medicine Lake Estates platting. No abatement of area charges shall be
considered.
MOTION' CARRIED (6-0-a0) All in favor
PLANNIK COMMISSION. MINUTES '-9- December 6, 1978
A-498 Lundgren Bros. (Chippewa Trails 2nd Add.) Project Sign -Approval
V a r I a-, h c—e
i nA roval
Variance
Staff presented background information per the report dated December 5, 1978.
The petitioner, Sherman Goldberg, stated that the proposed wooden sign is similar
to the sign for Chippewa Trails lst Addition. To preserve- present vegetation, he
requested a 101 setback variance. He stated that ordinance -size sta)adards of
32 sq, ft maximum can be met, and no size variance is requested.
Chairman Davenport cited that the trail outlot is justification for setback variance,
per earlier action on Nathan Trails signage.
MOTION by Commissioner Schneider, supported by Commissioner Vasiliou, that the
Planning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of project ;lame plate
sign for Chippewa Trails 2nd Addition, subject to the following conditions:
1. 'Posts must be 6" x 611.
2. The board must be 3" thick (letters to be routed into woodland not to exceed
32 sq ft., in area.
3. The sign structure is to be set back 1'0' (10' variance) from both Medicine
Lake Road(and trail) and 27th Ave, No, right-of-way lines,
4. That there be a deed covenant for sign maintenance over entire subdivision, as
approved by the city attorney; to be filed prior to permits.
5. That there be an easement for this sign on Lot 1, Block 1 and evidence of
filing shalt be submitted prior to issuance of permit.
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) All in favor
A-331 Lundgren Bros. (Shiloh 3rd Add'.) Project Sign Approval
Variance
Staff presented backgroundinformation per the report dated December 5, 3978-,
MOTION by Commissioner Barron, supported by Commissioner Schneider, that the Planning
Commission recommend' to the City Council approval of project name plate sign for
Shiloh 3rd Addition, subject to the following conditions;
1. Posts must be 6" x 611.
2. The board must be 31' thick (letters t be rcuted into wood) and not to exceed
32 sq. ft. in area.
3. The sign is to be set back 20' from the right-of-way lines,
4 That there be a deed covenant for sign maintenance over eotire subdivision, as
approved by the city attorney; to be filed. prior to ;permits.
5. That there be an easement for this sign on Lot 1, Hick 3, and evidence of
filing shall be submitted prior to isst,anee of permit,
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) All in favor
PLANNING COMMISSIONMINUTES December 6 1978
Continued)
A--698 Meadow Corporation 1,i1athan ';rails Ades, Project Si n Ao royal
Variar[c'
MOTION by Commissioner Schneider, stoported bycomm ssioner Barron to reconsider
the previous action on Nathan. Trails (A-698),
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) All in favor
MOTION by Commissioner Schneider, supported by Commissioner Threinen, to amend
the main motion by adding a sixth condition: "Setback from 47th Ave. No, be 20'
for sight distance visibility, due to the mass of the sign support structure,
MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED (6-0-0) All in favor
Chairman Davenport stated that staff should apply the following policy to resi- dential subdivision name plate signs:
I. Sign proposals shall be made preferably at preliminary plat stage and no later
than final plat 'stage.
2. Setbacks shall be per ordinance standards; requests for variance for setbacks
must clearly document the alleged uniqueness and hardship,
Covenants over the entire subdivision shall ue recorded, specifying legal
responsibility for long-term maintenance of the sign(s).
4. Easement(s) shall be recorded on the lot(s) where the sign is located.
5. Developers should consider the impact of sign size and location upon the buildingsetbacklinesofthelot, especially in the case of corner lots;
It was the concensus of the Commission that the policies should be applied by staff, and that eventually the language should be incorporated into the ordinance.
Chairman Davenport asked that a letter to the Chairman of the Board of ZoningAdjustmentbeprepared, relating the Commission's position and policies on this
matter.
Staff stated that the City Council has noted problem with certain street -namingandsubsequentaddressing, He also noted the name change of Niagara Lane to
Plymouth Blvd, within the Downtown Plymouth area.
Staff stated that the City Council is desirous of receiving by the end of JanuaryPlanningCommissionrecommendationsonpolicies (City Code) for curbing, land-
scaping, fire lanes and hydrants.
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -a- December 6, 1978
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A-698 Meadow Corporation (Nathan Trails A4d,) Project Sin Approval
Variance
Staff introduced the item, reviewing the: December 5, 1978 report on this and
relatedpetitions,
The petitioner, Duane Dietrich, commented on the proposal quality (letters routed
into plate of monument designation) of the project sign and stated that FHA has
approved project covenants for sign maintenance,
There was considerable discussion by Commission members regarding sign variances,
particularly for single-family residential developmonts, These variances are a
problem as applications for permits have exceeded i'nance standards, They also
felt that signs (including entrance monuments) need to be designed for durability
which would require minimum maintenance, as well as establishment of deed cove-
nants on proJects to assure continued maintenance.
Staff reviewed past history of sign design and developers' interppretation of name
plate signs (or gateway monuments or decorative structures), setbacks, and placer
ment on private property, Staff related the recommendation, supported by the
Board of Zoning Adjustment, that all new project signs and monuments be reviewed
with the preliminary or final plats,
Regarding sign setback, staff noted recommendation that the two structures be
within 20' ordinance setback, The petitioner noted "uniqueness" because of the
20" trail outlot adjacent to Nathan Lane. Commissioner Wire felt the 20' setback
is not reasonable, and Chairman Davenport stated that the trail outlot is justifi"
cation for setback variation.
MOTION by Commissioner Wire, supported by Commissioner T'hreinen, that the Planning
Commission recommend to the City Council approval of Nathan Trails name plate signs
subject to the following conditions:
1. That there be a deed covenant for sign maintenance over entire subdivision,
as approved by the city attorney.
2. That the two ign structur s be set back 101 from the Nathan Lane (and trail).
3..
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name pale sha be min7mum 21' thick board and not exceed 32 sq, ft, in area,
4. That the two identification sign support structures be a maximum of 6' high and
16' wide.
MOTION by Chairman Davenport, supported by Commissioner Threinen, to amend the main
motion by adding a fifth condition: "That there be an easement for these two iden-
tification sign structures on 2 lots - Block 1, Lot 9 and Block 4, Lot 1, evidence
of said easements being filed shall be submitted prior to permit issuance,
EMOTION 0 AMEND CARRIED 6-0,0)
The Commission then voted on the main ;potion as amended,
MOTION CARRIED 6-0-0)
All in favor
All in favor
FLANKING COMMISSION 14INUTES -11- December 6, 1978
MOTION by Chairman Davenport,,. supported by Commissioner Threi.nen, that Commissioner
Vasil'iou be appointed to the Board of Zoning Appeals.
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) All in favor
MOTION by Commissioner Barron, supported by Commissioner Vas liou,'that. PlanningCommissionminutesofOctober18, 1978 be approved.
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) All in favor
MOTION by Commissioner Barron, supported by Commissioner Schneider, that PlanningCommissionminutesofNovember1, 1978, November 8, 1978, and November 15, 1978
be approved..
MOTION CARRIED - (6-0-0) All in favor
Chairman Davenport adjouoned the meeting at 10:40 p.m.
APPROVED BY PLANNING' COMMISSION
David J. Davenport, Chairman
Plymouth Planning Commission
Blair Tremere, Secretary
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