HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 06-21-1978PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY OF PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA
June 21, 1978
A regular meeting of the Plymouth Planning Commission was called to order, by Vice
Chairman Schneider at 7x30 p.m. in the Council Chambers of the Public Works Buidling,
14900-23rd Avenue North.
MEMBERS PRESENT:: Vice Chairman Schneider, Coriissioners Erickson, Stewart and
Vasiliou
MEMBERS ABSENT: Chairman Davenport (8t Guard), Commissioners Barron and Threinen
STAFF PRESENT, James G, Willis, City Manager, and Kate Marx
T-745 Larry Laukka A-745 Revised Concept Plan for
RPUD 78-3
Staff presented petitioner's revised Concept Plan for RPUD 78-3, which introduced
significant changes in the density compared with the previous submission. Single
family detached units were reduced to 89 from 96, townhouse units were reduced to
136 from 168; and condominium-apartment units were reduced: to 80 from 100-120 for
a total of 305 units compared with the original proposal of 364-384. Other observa-
tions and recommendations of Staff were made per the Staff report of June 16, 1978.
Don Ness, Landplan, representing petitioner., discussed the impact of the Land Use
Guiding of the site in terms of adjacent uses, geography of the property, development
of neighborhoods within the project and establishment of boundaries between different
densities of the Land Use in the area.
Mr. Hess questioned what the City deemed to be "affordable" housing. Staff responded
that the standards for this were set by the Metropolitan Council on an annual basis.
Commissioner Erickson questioned petitioner as to how he felt the top of the density
range for LA-1 guiding (2-3 units per acre) was appropriate for this project..
Francis 1-la5en, petitioner's engineer, repsonded that of the four criteria established
in the Zoning Ordinance for RPUD's, all had been met in their opinion, therefore, they
were eligible for the full bonus credits for the project, i.e. the project was 1)
over 40 acres in size, 2) provided a variety of housing types, 3) preserved natural
features of the land, and 4} had made plans for provision of moderate iricome housing.
Vice Chairman Schneider opened the meeting to comments and questions from the audience,
Pat Oman, 12125-45th Avenue North; asked what the final configuration of the land
would be at the northwest corner of the site. He lived in that area and was concerned
that the hill on this property would ,be lowered and ta^ees remov_ao. Petitioner responded.
that this would not be done, that it was the goal of the developer to move as little
of ` the land and remove as few trees as would be possible.
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Mr. Oman also stated that he was concerned about the impact of the traffic that
this project would generate considering, the condition of Larch Lane a- this point
in time and the access at County Road :9.
Al Ribbe, 12030 -45th Avenue North, stated that he too, was concerned with the
traffic impact upon Larch Lane and County Road 9. He asked if it was known yet
when County Road 9 would be upgraded and relocated. Staff responded that the
County had not yet committed to the project; it was not scheduled for their Five -
Year Capital Improvements Program at this time. As to Larch Lane, Staff pointed
out that the Council would be hearing the results of a preliminary engineering report
on the rerouting of Larch Lane within the next few weeks.
Vice Chairman Schneider closed the public informational meeting at 8:25 p.i.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Vasiliou, supported by Commissioner Erickson that
the Planning Commission Take action on this item at this meeting.
MOTION CARRIED (3-1-0) (Commissioner Stewart against) MOTION CARRIED
Commissioner Stewart stated he was against acting on the item at this time in that
he felt: the Larch Lane issue would have a significant impact upon the site and felt
that, since the Council was so close to taking action on the project, that it
should be deferred until the alignment of Larch Lane would be established.
A-186 Calhoun Investment A-186 Preliminary Plat
Staff presented. petitioner's request for preliminary plat approval of the little
peninsula of Medicine Lake. Staff pointed out to the Commission that at its meeting
of Atsil 19, 1978, action to defer was taken to defer the item Rin that petitioner was
not available to respond to the questions of the Commission or the audience.
Vice Chairman Schneider stated that AMLAC, the homeowners' association for the Medicine
Lake area, and the Commission shared a concern that the holding pond and other outlots
may not be maintained if platted as seoerate lots and may eventually end sap in
a tax forfeiture situation..
Staff responded that the covenants on the property protected the citizens and 'the
City on these matters, placing responsibility for the outlots on the owners of the
condominium projects.
Bill Barbush, representing petitioner, explained in further detail, how the projects
would be responsible for the maintenance of the outlots.
There were no questions from members of the audience regarding the project.
Vice Chairman Schneider closed the public hearing at 9:45 p.m.
MOTION. was made by Commissioner Erickson, supported by Commissioner Stewart that
the Planning Commissiun take action on this item at this meeting,
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MOTION CARRIED (4-0--0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
A-745 Larry Laukka A-745 Revised Concept Plan
RPUD 78--
Coruaissioner Stewart reiterated that he felt the south half of the property, at last,`
should not be dealt with by the Commission until the alignment of Larch Lane could
be established by the City Council within the near, future. The Commission concurred
that this might present adequate justification for multiple units on the south half
of the property, depending upon the alignment chosen. The Commission also raised
a question regarding access for the east portion of the property to Larch Lane. No
through street; was contemplated to the east until the County would build County ;`load 9
as realigned through the plata Petitioner responded that a temporary road could be
installed to facilitate this property's access to Larch Lane from the east. Mr.
Laukka added that he would be willing to cooperate with the City in every way to
see that the matter would be properly mitigated with respect to Larch Lane,
Commissioner Erickson indicatedthat he was not comfortable with the allowance of
three units per acre on the north portion of the property in particular and questioned
whether three units per acre would be appropriate for the south half.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Erickson;, supported by Commissioner Vasiliou that
the. Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council:
That the request of Lary Laukka for revised Concept Plan approval for RPUD 78-3,
located at the northeas: corner of Larch Lane and County Road 9 per Lotting
Plan "A" dated June, 1978,.be approved at a density to allow 89 single family
detached lots, 80 condominium units and 136 townhouse units, subject to the
following conditions and modifications:
Density on the south portion of the project consisting of condominiums and
townhouses,- shall be reduced to 3.0 units per acre; density for the north
portion of the project shall consist of single family detached dwellings at 1.,6
units per acre
Overall project density shall be teased on 2.6 units per acre, with RPUD bonus
points granted as follows: a) 0.4 for project size over 40 acres; b) 0.2 for
variety of housing types; c) no points for preservation of natural features, and
d) no points for affordable housing.
Vice Chairman Schneider stated that he still felt strongly that the townhouses and
condominiums. on the south, portion of the property should be eliminated. He stated`
that he felt the LA -1 areas of the City should' be of a single family detached develop-
ment as opposed to any type of multiple unit, and that transition areas from the LA -1
of this property to the LAA pviperty adjacent to the west should be on the property
to the west, not part of this proposal. The burden of transition should be on the
property that is guided for the higher use,
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MOTION TO AMEND was made by Commissioner Stewart, supported by Commissioner Erickson
that the following modification be added to the previous motion: "Developer shall'
give: consideration to the Larch lane realignment, as determined by the Council,
upon acceptance of the preliminary engineering report dealing with the final alignment
of Larch Lane."
MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED(4-0.0) (All in favor) MOTION: TO AMEND CARKr;D
The Commission then voted on the main motion as amended.
MOTION CARRIED (3-1,-0) (Vice Chairman Schneider against) MOTION' CARRIED
A,-186 Calhoun Investment A-186 Preliminary Plat
MOTION was made by Commissioner Vasiliou, supported by Commissioner Erickson that
the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council;
that the request of Calhoun Investment for preliminary plat approval of Sunrise
Day Estates, approximately 30 acres, located in the southwestt area of Medicine
Lake (known as the .Little Peninsula), consisting of three lots and two outlots,
be approved, subject to the following conditionz
Compliance with the provisions of the City Engineer's memorandum.
MOTION CARRIED` (4-0-0) (Ali in favor) MOTION CARRIED'
A=833 American Lutheran Church A-833 Conditional Use Permit
Staff presented pe;. tione's request for a ohurch use in an R -O (Restricted 'Residential)
Zoning Districts generally located at the southwest corner of Medina Road anti High-
way 101. Of significance, the proposed location was not within a sewered area of the
community, Recommendations and observations of Staff were made per the Staff report
of June 15, 1978:
Commssionor Stewart stated that he did not feel that a church, per se, should' be
considered as urban :development, and, therefore, subject to the provisions of Council
Policy Resolution #75-564 prohibiting development in the non-sewered areas of the
community.
Commissioner Stewart asked if other locations had been considered for the site.
Dean Kleinschmidt explained the process the church had been through in finding land
for the new church. In addition, stir. Kleinschmidt stated that the majority of their
membership was located west of the sewered areas of the City.
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The Commission and petitioners discussed the growth of the church in relation to the
location of the property proposed and their perceived need for the facility within
the Plymouth area,
Commissioner Vasiliou stated concern that action to allow a use such as a church
could be precedent -setting in that other uses would like to recieve waivers to Council
Policy Resolution #75-664. Once such a decision would be: made, it would difficult
for the City to draw the line and distinguish between the church and anyotheruse.
Commissioner Stewart stated that based on tise sewer system rnd alternate proposed, i.e.
connecting with the Greenwood Elementary Sc'",00lsystem or as an alternate using a
private system designed for such uses, that he did not feel there would be an addi-
tional burden on the City in terms of service to the site.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Stewart, supported by Commissioner Erickson, that
the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council:
That the request, of American Lutheran Church for a conditional use permit for
operation and construction of a church, proposed to be located at the southwest
corner of Medina Road and Highway 101, be approved, subject to site plan suWflssiori
and approval by the City of Plymouth.
Further, that the provisions and requirements of Council Policy Resolution #75-664
be waived on the finding that should the church either be able to connect to the
school (Greenwood Elementary) for sewer seW ce or provide an adequate private
system for sewer service, to be apprr)ved by the Inspection .Division, that
the construction of a church at this site would be in compliance with the pro
vision #3 of Council Resolution #75-f 64, i.e. " .(it would} not cause an
unreasonable burdon upon the City of Plymouth in providing services and utilities
or cause a deleterious impact upon the natural environment,"
eMOTION CARRIED '4-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
308 Mary Jo Brown A-308 Conditional Use Permit Renewal
and Expansion
Staff presented petitioner's request for conditional use permit renewal and expansion
for her current operation of a ceramics studio and retail business, located at the
northeast corner of 'Highway 55 and South Shore Drive. Observations and recommendations
of Staff were made per the Staff report of May 11, 1978.
The Commission discussed the business with petitioner, in particular parking fog` the
site. Staff noted that the City had not received any complaints from citizens or
the surrounding business. in this regard.
Vice Chairman .Schneider stated that he felt it would' be appropriate, in that the use
was being expanded, that the -permit be granted for one year to allow for a check on
the parking situation after that period of time.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES -6-- June 21, 1978
MOTION was made by Commissioner Erickson, supported by Commissioner Vasiliou,
that the Planvn ng Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council.:.
That the request of Mary Jo Brown for a conditional use permit renewal and
expansion of her ceramics studio and retail business, located in the northeast
quadrant of Highway 55 and South Shore Drive, be approved subject to the following
conditions:
1. Application of all necessary building permits and occupancy permits..
2. No additional signs be added except as currently in use by Plymouth Liquors.
3. No outside storage be allowed for the use.
4.. Permit be for one year for purposes of reviewal of the parking for the site.
MOTION CARRIED (4-0-0)
A-508 Charles Carlson A-508
All innfavor) MOTION CARRIED
Conditional Use Permit Renewal
Staff presented petitioner's request for early consideration of the renewal of his
conditional use permit for an amusement center at 3425 County Road 18. Petitioner
had been granted a six-month conditional use permit at a January, 1978 Council meeting.
The Commission discussed the operation with petitioner in detail with particular
attention to the conditions established by Council Resolution 478-40 dealing with
monitoring of the parking lot, site plan and the age of patrons.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Stewart, supported by Commissioner Vasiliou, that
the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council:
That the request of Charles Carlson for conditional use permit renewal to continue
operation. of an amusement center in a ,ti -3 (Service Business) Zoning District,
specifically at 3425 County Road 18 N., be approved, subject to the following
conditions:
1. Compliance with all applicable construction codes and ordinances.
2. No smoking be allowed on the site.
3_. Patrons most. be 15 years of age or older unless accompanied by parent or
legal guardian;
4. Permit shall be for six months.
S. Operation hours of the amusement center shall be:
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Monday thru Thursday 4:30 p.m. to 10:00 p„m.
Friday 4:30 p.m. to 12:00 Midnight
Saturday 12:00 Noon: to 12Op Midnight
Sunday 12:00 Noon to 10:00 p.m,
School Holidays and Vacations 12.00 Noon to 12;:00 Midnight
6._ No more than 40 persons be allowed in the building at one time..
7. Two adults shall be on duty at all times, one inside and one outside,
Vice Chairman Schneider stated that be had noticed a car parked outside of the building
for some time that had never been moved from the parking; lot. Mr. Carlson responded
that it belonged to one of his employees. Vice Chairman. Schneider stated that he
felt it should be removed from the site as soon as possible, that overnight parking
of cars on the site should be discouraged. by Mr. Carlson
Mr. Carlson stated concern relative to the literal interpretation of the last condi-
tion, that one person was to be on duty outside at all times.. Following brief
discussion, Commissioner Vasiliou suggested that the intent of the condition was that
the entire premises must be monitored, and that it is the petitioner';; responsibility
to see this is done. Commission Stewart agreed, and added that compliance with the:
conditions would be evident by lace; of pvoblems which would result from failure to
monitor the premises,
The Commission pointed out to Mr. Carlson that it was imperative for him to comply
with the purpose and •intent of the conditions imposed upon him by the City actions
dealing with his use. Mr. Carlson responded that he understood this and felt
that he had been, and would continue to be, in compliance with the City requests.
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The Commission then voted on the main motion,
MOTION CARRIED (4-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
A-784 Parklands- Devel onmEt_ A-784 Final Plat
Staff presented peuitioker's request for final plat approval of "Deerwood Meadows,”
a plat proposed for single family residential development, proposed to be located
on the east side of Schmidt Lake,, generally at 45th Avenue North, consisting of 49
single, family detached lots. Observations and recommendations of Staff were presented
per the Staff report of June 15, 1!78,
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Francis Hagen, petitioner's engineer; indicated that it had been their understanding
That the lots fronting 45th Avenue North were to be the same in width as those existing
on 45th Avenue North to the west, it had not been their understanding that the lots
would also require 15,300 sq. ft. in area. He questioned the Commission as to their
intent on condition #2 of tha Council resolution approving the pre`fimirary plat,
The Commissicn pointed out that their intent was that all peripheral lots, including
those on the east side of 45th, were to be 15,300 sq. ft, in area. Mr. Hagen stated
that the appropriate amendments would be made tc the plat.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Stewart, supported by Commissioner Erickson, that the
Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council:
That the request of Parklands .Devel.for final plat approval o= "Deerwood Meadows,"
consisting of 49 single family detached lots, located on the east side of Schmidt
Lake at approximately 45th Avenue North, be approved subject to the following
conditions:
1. Developer shall provide assurances to the City that tha lots fronting 45th
Avenue North, specifically Lots 1-4, Block 4, shall be increa--ed in area
to 15,300 sq. ft. prior to building permit issuance on those lo;s.
2. Compliance with the provisions cf the City Engineer's memorandum.
3. The front yard structure setback for lots along 45th Avenue North be the
same on the east side (petitioner s property) as exist on the wast side of
the street (within Shorewood Acres), not t'o exceed 50 ft., specifically
along Lots 1-6} B1c ;t 4, and said lofts shall be of comparable width to
those on the west side of 45th Avenue North.
4. Park Dedication fees shall be calculated at $1.92 per lot ($9,024). This
amount is pro -rated from the total Deerwood Meadows preliminary plait,
assuming combined Subdivision. Unit Project Open Space and Public Open
Space requirements of 1.5.90 acres and credit for future trail dedication
of 3.43 acres for a net 12,47 acre deficiency (12.47 acres X $2,567 per
acre t 173 units = $192 per unit).
5. Complotion of the Environmental Assessment Worksheet process.
6. Building permits shall be withheld on Outlots A and B.
MOTION TO AMEND was made by Commissioner Stewart, supported by Commissioner Erickson
that the following be added ascondition V: "No private drive access to 45th Lane
be allowed for Lot 1,, Block I."
MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED ;4-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED
The Commission then voted on the main motion as amended.
MOTION CARRIED (4-0-0) All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
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A-830 Happy Chef A -830S to Plan
Staff" presented petitioner's amended request for site plan appruval of a 3,900 sq
ft. Class I Restaurant proposed to be located at the southwest corner of Highway 55
and Fernbrook Lane,, Review of the revised plans and additional noted Ordinance
deficiencies were explained in the Staff 'report ofJune 16, 1978.
Richard Rice, architect for the developer, stated that .he had a plan with him at
the meeting which had now mitigated all noted deficiencies per the Staff report of
June16 1078,
The Commission indicated that since the Stafi had not had an opportunity to review
the revised plan, that 'it would not be appropriate for them to review at this time.
MOTION TO DEFER was made by Commissioner Vasiliou, supported by Vice Chairman Schneider,
that the revised plans of Haopy Chef be referred back to Staff, for review prior to
Commission action.
MOTION TO DEFER CARRIED (3-0-1) (Commissioner Stewart abstained)
MOTION TO DEFER CARRIED
Vice Chairman Schneider indicated that he felt it would ,he important for Staff to
consider how the signage of the building would be calculated based on the design,
presented by 'sappy Chef petition. All other members of the Commission concurred,.
A-832 5tra`toflex, Incorporated A-832Site Plan
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Staff presented petitioner's request for site plan approval of a 36,700 sq. ft.
owner -occupant structure for manufacturing use, proposed to be located at the
southeast'corner of Ranchview Lane and 28th Avenue North. Observations and recommenda-
tions of Staff were presented per the Staff report of June 14, 1978.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Erickson, supported by Commissioner Vasiliou that
the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council;:
That the request of Stratoflex, Incorporated; for site plan approval of a 36,700
sq, ft, structure for manufacturing use, proposed to be located at the southeast
corner of Ranchview Lane and 28th Avenue North, be approved, subject to the fol
lowing conditions%
1. Compliance with the provisions of the City .Engineer's memorandum.
Z. Outdoor storage of waste and waste materials shall be prohibited.
3.. Park Dedication fees -in -lieu shad be $4,250.
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4,. Provision of bond guaranteeing landscaping and private improvements,
termed for a period of 18 months
S. Site plan be modified to provide a full 2.0 ft. setback for the parking to
the south and 100 off-street parking spaces.
6. Four -foot berm be added to the 20th Avenue North and Ranchview Lane frontages
within the setback area with effective screening in terms of landscaping
to be added.
7. Landscape plan be enhanced by addition of 10 Colorado Blue Spruce, 5 ft.
in height, balled and burlapped at a minimum size.
MOTION TO AMEND was made by Commissioner Erickson, supported by Vice Chairman Schneider,
that condition #5 be amended to read as follows: "Site plan be modified to provide
a full 20 ft, setback for the parking area to the south and 100 off-street parking
spaces be shown on the site plan, with only 95 required to be built at this time,
based on an owner occupant structure.
MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED (4-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED
The Commission then voted on the main motion as amended,
MOTION CARRIED (4-0-0) (All in favor, MOTION CARRIED
A ff2 Gene Paulson A-652 Conditional Use Permit
Staff presented the Commission with a report indicating that misunderstandings as
to permit issuance and conditions had taken place regarding the requests of Mr. Paul-
son, The Comni:ssion reviewed the report with Staff 'and Jeff Lambert, petitioner's
attorney, and petitioner. Mr. Paulson.
No formal action was taken by the C?nmmiss.ion at this time.
Plymouth Hi orical Society Site Plan
Staff presented petitioner's request for relocation of the old town hall', located
on Fernbrook Lane at approximately 37th Avenue North. Relocation would be required
in order to avoid demolition of the town hall with the upcoming Fernbrook Lane public
improvements.
The Commission discusses; the plan with Park Eckes, president of the Historical Society;`
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MOTION was made by Commissioner Vasiliou,. supported by Commissioner Erickson that
the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council;
That the request of the Plymouth Historical Society for relocation of the old
town hall, per plans dated June 21, 1978, be approved subject ;.-) the Historical
Socity working out a parking plan with Staff.
MOTION CARRIED (4-0.0)
A-593 Sam Castellino A-593
All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
Conditional Use Permit.
Petitioner, at the direction of the Commission, had s4'b1t1i tPd his sign plan for
Commission review, advertising his repair business at 171R20 Cour.y Road9.
M0flON TO DEFER was made by Commissioner Vasiliou, supported by Vice Chairman
Schneider, the further consideration of the sign plan for Sam Castellino, until svch
time as the Commissioners could make a physical inspection of the site.
MOTION TO DEFER CARRIED (4-0--0) (All in favor) MOTION TO DEFER CARRIED
MINUTES OF PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF MAY 17, 1978
MOTION was mads. by Vice Chairman Schneider, supported by Commissioner Stewart that
the minutes of the May 17, 1978 'Planning Commission meeting be approved as submitted.
MOTION CARRIED (4-0-0) All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
MOTION TO ADJOURN was made by Commissioner Vasiliou, supported by Commissioner Stewart.
Vice Chairman Schneider adjourned the meeting at 12:35 a.m.
APPROVED BY PLANNING COMMISSION
David J. Davenport, Chairman
Plymouth Planning Commission
Kate Marx, Acting Secretary