HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 06-07-1978PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY OF PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA
June 7, 1973
A regular meeting of the Plymouth Planning Commission was called, to order by Chairman
Davenport at 7:.30 p.,m. in the Council Chambers of the Public Works Building, 14900 -
23rd Avenue North.
MEMBERS PRESENT, Chairman Davenport, Commissioners Barron, Erickson, Schneider,
Threinen, and Vasilou
MEMBERS ABSENT. Comb ssi over Stewart
STAFF PRESENT.* Charles E. Dillerud and Kate Marr
A-643 Union City Mission: A-643 Conditional Use Permit
Staff presented petitioner's request for conditional use permit approval to convert
the old building on the Union City Mission site, located at the southwest corner
of Zachary Lane and 36th Avenue North, into a 14 -bed detoxification center. Staff
reported that, as directed by the Commission, a public hearing was noticed in the
official City newspaper, the New Hope— Plymouth POST, and that property owners
within 500 ft. of the entrance to the site, as well as t, five surrounding homeowners'
associations, were notified of the hearing, by individual:4'ce.
Commissioner Threinen questioned if the use of the facility would be available to any
member of the public. Mr. Leonard Boche, director of the project, stated that it
would be available to anyone requiring their services. Mr. Boche added that the
facility would be open 24 hours per day, year round.
Commissioner Schneider questioned which police departments would be using the facility.
Mr. Boche responded that the Cities of Golden Valley, New Elope, Brooklyn Center,
Brooklyn Park and Plymouth were expected to use the facility. He added that occasionally
people from the detoxification center would be referred for additional services to
the Pioneer Hous:. Commissioner Erickson questioned how many this wouid be.
Mr. Boche stated that projections were that one-third of those referred to the
detoxification center would end up in the Pioneer House for further treatment,
Commissioner Threinen asked Mr. Boche what the turn -overt time was for those in the
detoxification zente-r. Mr. Boche responded that it would be 72 hours,
Conilissioner Schneider asked whether security practices would be used for this use.
Mr. Boche stated that there would be tight security for the center in that the center,
upon receipt of individuals, would be responsible for their safety; therefore,
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security A,)uld be a necessity.
f Mr, Boche added that those who had committed a crime would not be taken to this
center, rather their cases would be handled through the criminal justice system.
Staff reported that three homeowners' associations indicated no; opposition to the
proposed use of the facility as a detoxification center.
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No one was present to ask questions of the Commission or the proponent.
Chairman Davenport closed the public hearing at 7:55 p.m..
MOTION was made by Commissioner Erickson supported by Commissioner Vasiliou that
thePlanningCommission take action on this item at this meeting.
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All iso favor)
Chairman Davenport stepped down from the table for discussion of this item;
A-824 Kleist-Karos A-824 RPUD 78-4 Concept Plan
and Preliminary Plat/Plan
Staff presented petitioner's request for RPUD 78-4 Concept Plan and preliminary
plat/plan review of "Blossomwood Hills," a residential _plat proposed, for 85
single family detached dwelling lots, to be located on the west side of West
Medicine Lake Road at 34th Avenue North, Staff made recommendations and observations
regarding the plat per the Staff report of May 31, 1978.
Commissioner Threinen questioned whether this platting would force sewer service
on the praperties to the north of the plat. He stated that the servicing of the
properties to the north would place extreme finan(_.al burdens upon those properties.
If the properties to the north would receive sewer resultant of this project, it
would also open a tremendous amount of land for development between 34th Avenue North
and County Road 9. Commissioner Threinen added that he had noted two substantial
grade cuts in the property for the purpose of roadways and questioned whether
these were too severe by City standards.
Dick Knutson, petitioner's engineer, indicated that the sewer for the project would
come from 28th Avenue North, south of the project; therefore, the properties north of
plat proposed would not be servicable by this sewer. It would be possible, upon
review, to serve the properties to the west, however, should they so desire. Mr..
Knutson emphasized that the propeoties to the north and east would not be serviced
by sanitary sewer resultant of this project; that the proposed plat could be scrviced
from 28th Avenue North,
With respect, to the grade cuts for roadway purposes, Mr. Knutson noted that the
areas where severe cuts would appear necessary would be the "barrow areas" for the
project in. terms of fill.
Commissioner Erickson questioned whether there was an existing lift -,station in the
area, Mr. Knutson responded that there was a lift -station at 28th Avenue North
which would require only a change in the pumps in order to service this project.
Mr. Knutston noted that the petitioner had contacted Hennepin County with respect to
the construction and right-of-way dedicate ;n required for West Medicine Lake Road
County Road 154) and that no comments had yet been received. He added that the
entire right-of-way for the roadway would be taken from the west portion of the
roadway (the Blossomwood plat) due to a County policy dealing with not allowing
taking of right-of-way from public park lands. Mr.. Knutson also pof ed out that.
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i the finished grades of the internal streets project would be 70, at the greates, whichdidmeetCityspecifications
Conmissioner Threinen asked if the right-of-way for Teakwood lane adjacent to the
southwest portion of the plat, did, in fact, exist. Staff stated that it wasdedicatedtotheCityasshown. Commissioner Erickson pointed out that it appeared
to be the only public access to the outlot of the adjacent plat to the west.
nary Gabriel, 13225 - 34th Avenue North, questioned whether access might be made
available from this plat to the Freund property to the west. It was pointed out
that a feasibility study might be required: to answer that question in terms ofpublicutilities. Chairman Davenport asked Mr. Knutson if the plat would be
built with the capacity to service the property to the west if it were possible. Mr, Knutson stated that it would.
Loren Schiebe, 13425 34th Avenue North, asked if this project would brines water
sery c- to the residents on 34th Avenue North. Staff responded that the project
would activate the dry pipe in 34th Avenue North.
Mrs. Donald, 3635 test Medicine Lake Drive, stated that she was not happy with theFactthatthepropertywouldbedeveloped, but that she was satisfied that her
property, 1'coated to the north of the proposed plat, would not be assessed for
public utilities at this time.
Staff explained a notification problem to the Commission -the notification to the
surrounding residents had been dealing with a public hearing for preliminary platreviewonly, whereas the project was, in fact, proposed as a combined RPUD ConceptPlan/Preliminary Plat/Plan review. Staff asked for Commission input as to whether
the proposal required renotification. The consensus fo the. Commission was that
renotification was not necessary in that the RPUD features of the site were not
of significance. Further, in this case, the proposal was of a 'conventional" nature
with respect to lot sizes indicated, density, etc,
Chairman Davenport closed the public hearing at 9:00 p.m.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Barron supported by Commissioner Threinen that
the Planning Commission take action on this item at this meeting
MOTION CARRIED (5-0-0) (All in favor)
Chairman Davenport returned to the tale.
T:815 8-T Land Company A4813 Preliminary .Plat/Plan
for RPUD 78.2
Staff presented petitioner's request for RPUD 78-2 Preliminary Plat/Plan review ofCedarRidge," proposed to include 97 single -family dwelling lots and 13 two -unit
townhouse lots for a total of 123 units, The project was proposed at the southwest
corner of Fernbrook Lane and County Road 9. Staff made recommendations and observations
regarding the plat proposal per the Staff Report of May 31, 1978.
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Francis Hagen, petitioner's engineer, stated that it had been determined that the
project was eater than 300 Feet from Plymouth; Creek and would, therefore, not
require an Environmental Assessment Worksheet to be completed. Mr. Hagen added
that the grading would be completed in such a manner as to include a berm along
County Road 9.
Commissioner Barron asked what size side yards would be established for the twos
unit townhouses., Rick Murra. petitioner, stated that 10 foot side yards, 20 feet
between structures,wo` uld be established.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Threinen that
the Planning Commission take action on this item at this, meeting,
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor)
The audience indicated that they had not had an opportunity to speak.
MOTIONwas made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Schneider to
reopen the public hearing on the preliminary pat/plan for B -T Land Company's
proposal of Cedar Ridge.'
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor)
Mr.
SBroman, 4055 Glacier Lane, stated that from the location of his home, he would
see only the rooftops of the structures proposed to be built . Mr. Hagen pointed
out to Mr. Broman that there would not be any difference in the "view" whether
there were two --unit townhouses or single family homes located close to County Road 9.
Mr. Broman asked if a height limiation could be placed on the homes. Staff pointed
out that maximum height allowable for the zoning of the single family districts
was 30 feet.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Schneider supported by Commission r Threi.nen that
the Planning Commission take action on this item at this ;meeting.
MOTION CARRIED (6-0--0) (All in favor)
A-735 Robert Middlemist A-735 Preliminary Plat
Staff presented petitioner's request for preliminary plat approval of Robert Middlemist
4th Addidion, proposed for single family residential development of 14 lots, located
at the southeast corner of Ximines Lane and County goad 9. Recommendations and
observations of Staff were presented per the Staff Report of May 31, 1978.
Tom.Wanous 4015 Trenton Lane, representing the Lost Lake Improvement Association,
stated that the association was concerned that the lake not be abused in the process
of development of this. plat. He noted that, in particular, there had been siltation
in the lake in the past.
Floyd R. Heddinq, 10610 - 40th Avenue North, indicated that the residents in the area
were unhappy with the type of enforcement o,',he Minnesota Department of Natural
Resources' standardson the lake a;i asked aor the', help of the City in maintaining
the quality of the lake,
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Robert Middlemist, petitioner, stated that as a result of this land being ,developed, lesswater would be running into the lake from this property.. The storm sewer
run-off for the land was directed to the west and eventually into Medicine Lake.
He added that there was no siltation, in the lake as a result of his current project;
Harry Hendrickson, 4025 Trenton Lane, asked the City to intervene on behalf of
the homeowners in order to see that the DNR standards would be upheld in this area.:
Chairman Davenport closed the public hearing at 9.45 p.m,
MOTION was made by Commissioner Erickson supported by Commissioner Threinen that
the Planning Commisison take action. on item at this meeting.
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor)
A:823 Edward T. Johnston A-823 RPUD 78-4 .Concept Plan,
Preliminary Plat/Plan
Staff presented petitioner's request for Concept Plan apd Preliminary Plat/Plan
for "'Deerwood Trails-," a residential single family plat proposed for 22 single family
dwellings proposed to be located at the east side of Schmidt Lake at 47th Avenue
North. Staff made recommendations and observations regarding the plat per the
Staff Report of May 31, 1978.
No one was present from the audience to ask questions regarding the plat.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Schneider that
the Planning Commission take action on this item at this meeting.
MOTION: CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor)
A,643 Union City Mission A-643 Conditional Use Permit
MOTION was made by Commissioner Erickson supported by Commissioner Uasiliou that
the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council:
That the request of the Union City Mission for a conditional use permit to operate
a 14 -bed detoxi=fication center from the existing building at 3401 East Medicine Lake
Boulevard, per Section 7, Subdivision 3, paragraph 17 of the Zoning Ordinance be
approved.
MOTION CARRIED (6--Q-0) (All in favor)
Chairman Davenport stepped down from the table for discussion of the followingitem.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES _5 June 17 1978
A7824 71eist Karos A-824 RPUD Concept Plan/Preliminary
Plat/Plan for RPUD 78-5
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Barron that
the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council='
That the request of Kleist-Karos for RPUD-78-5 Concept Plan/Preliminary Plat/Plan
approvals for "Blossomwood Hills," located on the west side of West Medicine Lake
Drive at 34th Avenue North, proposed for 85 single family detached dwelling lots,, be approved, per plans, dated. May 19 1978 and subject to the following conditions;
1. Compliance with x mvisions of the City Engineer's Memorandum particularly
with respect to the availability and timing: of public utilities. No final
plat shall be processed until the extension of public utilities to all or
a portion of this site has been ordered by the City Cooncil
2. Written concurrence by Hennepin County as to right-of-way width and
geometries for County Road 61.and County Road 154.
3. Completion of the mandatory Environmental Assessment Worsheet prior to any
final. plat approval action.
4. All private driveway access to County Road 154 shall be prohibited.
5, Park dedication shall be by fees -in -lieu consistent -with current City policy
with no credit for either Outlot A or the area of the plat labelled "Park."
6. Public utility service for the project and circulation included consideration
of capacity and access to Plat 43722, Parcels 4600 and 4800 adjacent to the
west.
Commissioner Threinen stated that he felt the project was viable under the conditions
as represented by petitioner's engineer, i. that the entire project could be
serviced by the change of pumps as the 280 Avenue North lift -station and that the
properties 'to the north and east would not :e assessed or serviced as a result of
the development of this project. Also, he urged petitioner to work with the
property owners to the east as to access and public utility service extension.
Commissioner Threinen questioned petitioner as to how condition #5 would affect
the project. Mr, Knutson indicated that the area would li<ely be- platted as an
outlof for the time being with lot lines on the west of the "park" area extended
into the lot easterly and one buildable lot (the outlot) remaining at the north-
east portion of the plat, The lot at the northeast portion of the plat would remain
open until such time as utility services could be extended from the north to the
lot as service could not be extended to it from the 28th Avenue North lift. -station.
Commissioner Erickson asked if the construction of additional lift -stations would
be required for the plat. Mr. Knutson responded that it would not be necessary.
MOTION. CARRIED (5-,0-0) (All in favor)
Chairman Davenport returned to the table.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES -7 dune 7, 1978
A-811 B T hand; Company A-813 RPUD 78-2 Prellmanary Plat%Pl'an
MOTION was made by Commissioner Erickson supported by Commissioner Vasiliou that the
Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Counci c
That the request of B -T Land Company for Preliminary Plat/Plan approval for RPUD 78-2,
Cedar Ridge," located at the southwest corner of Eernbrook Lane and County Road 9,
proposed for 97 single family dwelling lots and 13 two -unit townhouse lots, for
a total of 123 units, be approved subject to the following conditions:
1. Compliance with the provisions of the City Engineer's Memorandum,
2. Park dedication shallconsist of dedirpt ion of the Outlot between Blocks 4 and
improved per #3 below) and .,irk dedication fees -in -lieu equal
to the assessor's market value: of the site at the time of final
plat approval, not to exceed '$:'
3. The walkway at the south porti,, °)i i,,operty be landscaped with evergreen
trees of 2 feet in height on 15 foot .iters along the boundary lines of the
walkway on both sides of the easement for purposes of screening the adjacent
hots from the trail users.
4. Completion of the Environmental Assessment Worksheet process, if required.
5, A berm be constructed along County Road 9 frontage of the project.
C. The two -unit townhouse parcels be serviced by a single driveway curb -cut to
the lots and covenants be established to -insure the appearance of a single
family dwelling in terms of color and architectural design of the units.
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MOTION TO AMEND was made by Chairman Davenport supported by Commissioner Barron that
the following be added to condition #6 "Copies of the draft declarations be submitted
to the City Council: at the time of preliminary plat consideration for review of the
workability" of the two -unit townhouse concept."
Chairman Davenport explained that he felt instru nnnts should be drafted to "work"
not simply exist as a non -enforceable instrument,
Commissioner Vasiliou stated that she agreed with the additionofthe wording
to condition #6. She stated that at the inception of new projects and concepts such
as this one with the two -unit townhouses,_ it would be important for the City, as well
as the eventural residents of the project, to have an understanding of how the
project will work and whether documents such as covenants are enforceable and workable.
She added that it had, been shown that the "usual and customary" covenants and
declarations did not always work.
The Commission then.voted: on the amendment.
MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED (5-1-0) (commissioner Threinen agdinst)
Commissioner Threinen stated he was against in that he did not feel the covenants or
declarations would make the project "work" or "not work" on their existence alone.
He added that he also felt such decisions were outside the realm of the intent of
the Zoning Ordinance,
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The Commission then votedoted on the main matron as amended..
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor)'
A 635 Robert Middlemist A-635, Preliminary Plat
MOTION was made by Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Erickson that
the Planning Co[snission make the following recommendation to the City Council;
That the request of Robert Midd emist for preliminary plat approval of Robert
Middlemist 4th addition, located at the southeast corner of Ximines Lane and
County Road 9, proposed for 14 single family detached dwelling units,be approved,
subject to the following conditions,
1. Compliance with the provisions of the City Engineer's Memorandum:
2. Park dedication shall be by fees-in-lieu equal to the assessor's fair market
value of .7 acre of the site at the time of final plat approval (not to exceed
275 per lot)
3. Private driveway access to County Road 9 shall be prohibited.
Dedication of storm water drainage easements over Lost Lake at and below elevation.
938.
6. Redesign to provide at least a 20 foot width on the rear line of Lot 12.
6. Front setback for Lots 1, 2 3,- 12 and 13 be 50 feet.
MOTION TO AMEND was made by Commissioner Erickson supported by Commissioner Schneider
to add the: following as condition V, "Rear yard setback; be 20% of lot depth plus
the distance between the normal and high water mark."
MOTIONTO AMEND 'CARRIED 6-0-0) (All in favor)
MOTION TO AMEND was made by Commissioner Erickson supported by Commissioner Schneider
to add the following as condition #8, "Nograding be allowed between the normal
and high water mark.."
The Commission then voted on the main motion as amended,
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor)
Comntiscioner Schneider stated that this developer, as well as others, had be,:., cited
for siltation in the City's lakes; but while the City has an ordinance dealing witherosionat%d siltation, it appears it has not been enforced.
A-823 Edward T. Johnston A-823 RPUD 78-4 Concept Plan and
Preliminary Plat/Phan
MOTION_ was made by Commissioner Barron supported by Commissioner Erickson that the
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Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council:
That the request of Edward T. .Johnston for Concept Plan and Preliminary Plat/Plan
approval for RPUD 78-4, consisting of 22 single family dwelling lots, located on
the east side of Schmidt Lake at 47th Avenue North, known as "Deerwood Trails,"
be approved subject to the following conditions;
1. Compliance with the provisions of the City Engineer's Memorandum.
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2. Park Dedication shall. consist of the trail corridor (.48 acre) and average
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fees -in -lieu equal to the assessor's market value of ,52 acres of the site
at the time of final plat,
3. Renaming of "Cottonwood Lane" to a numbered "Avenue North" per the City street
naming grid.:
4, Dedication of storm drainage easements on lakeside lots to elevation 920.
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor
Chairman Davenport recessed the meeting at 11:10 p.m.., said meeting to be reconvened
at 7:;30 p.m., Thursday, June 8, 1978.
The regular meeting of June 7, 1978 of the Plymouth Planning Commission was
reconvened at 7:30 p.m. June 8, 1978 in the Council Chambers of the Public
Works. Building, 14900 - 23rd Avenue North,
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Davenport, Commissioners Barron (arrived at 8:30)
Schneider and Vasiliou
MEMBERS ABSENT; Commissioners Erickson, Threinen and Stewart
STAFF PRESENT:: Charles E. Dillerudand Kate Marx
A quorum was not available at the start of the meeting. It was the consensus of
the members in attendance that thepresentations of Staff petitioners be heard in
the disignated order with action on the items; to take place at the time a quorum
was available.
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5987 Sam Castellino A-593 Conditional Use Permit
Staff presented petitioner's request for conditional use permitapprovalfor retail
sales in the 1-1 Zoning District as a function of his rental and repair of lawn and
g,Nrden and small industrial equipment. Staff recommendations and observations
w. -re made per the Staff report of June 5, 1978.
Chairman Davenport asked Mr. Castellino how close his nearest neig"ibors were to his
use. Mr. Castellino responded that the closest and only neighbor was 1150 feet away.
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The neighbor had been contacted and ,had told him that he had no objection to his
business.
Ce-qmissioner Schneider asked how long the petitioner had been repairing engines.
f Ationer responded thel he had been doing so for approximately 2 to 3 months.
SX.ff pointed out that hi: was permitted in the I.-1: Zoning District.
Chairman Davenport asked what percentage of the operation would be sales, if
permitted. Mr. Castellino responded that perhaps 25, ata maximum, would
be sales. He added that he did not intend to advertise his sales, merely have
items available within the realm of his repair operations.
Commissioner Schneider asked if any other employees would be working with Mr,
Castellino. Mr. Castellino responded that his business would be a single
proprietorship, no other employees were contemplated.
Chairman Davenport asked if petitioner could live Ath a provision prohibiting
outside storage, Mr. Castellino stated that he would like to have some of the
storage outside in order to show which items he could repair and service.
A-828 Tom Harty is -828 Conditional Use Permit
Staff presented petitioner's request for a conditional use permit to extend a non-
conforming use of a boat rental and mooring operation by adding bait sales to
the use. Staff pointed out that the proposed use extension to include bait sales
would likely be considered accessory to the main use and would, therefore, be
allowed if no structural changes would be required. Staff asked for Commission
direction on the matter,
Mr. Harty explained his rental operation of 20 fishing boats; 20 sail boats and
3 pontoons to the Commission stating that he had numerous requests for bait by
users of his service. He added that he would not be requiring any expansion of
the structures for the added bait sales. Primarily, minnows, suckers, worms and
leeches would be available, if the use would be approved,
Commissioner Schneider asked what percentage of the business would be from the bait
sales Mr. Harty estimated that it would not exceed 15% of the business.
Commissioner Schneider also questioned where people would park. for the use. Mr.
Harty responded that he currently had space for approximately 30 cars on the
property,
A -35O Northland Mortgage A-350 Final Plat
Staff presented petitioner's request for final plat approval of Maple Creek, a plat,
proposed for single family residential development located on the west side of
Vicksburg lane at 28th Avenue North, for 73 units. Staff made recommendations
and observations per the Staff report of June 2, 1978. of significance, the
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Medina Road right-of-way issue had not yet been resolved.
Ball Me er, petitioner's engineer, stated that it was petitioner's desire to
mitigate the Medina Road situation as soo+i as possible. Various manners with
which to handle the situation were presented by Mr, Meyer. The Commission discussed
the proposed alternatives with petitioner in detail,.
Commissioner Barron arrived at 8:30 p.m. a quorum was delcared present. Chairman
Davenport returned to the items reviewed, but not yet acted upon for Commission
recommendation..
A:593 Sam Castellino A-593 Conditional Use Permit I
MOTION TO :DEFER was made by Coinnissioner Schneider supported by Chairman Davenport
the further consideration of the conditional use permit request of Sam Castellino
for retail sales within. the I-1 Zoning District subject to the following conditions
being met.
I. No outside storage be allowed on the site.
2. No advertising of the sales operation be allowed.
3. Any signs to be used on the site shall be per the Ordinance, and petitioner
shall be limited to one sign for his operation.. In addition, said sign plan
shall. be returned to the Planning Commission for their review prior to Council
action,
Commissioner Schneider stated that he felt the sign plan. was an important part
of the operation. If it could be designed to eliminate.reference to sales,'it
would be permissible. He added that he: felt the petitioner's "hardship should
also be taken into consideration with this reques.t, in that he had indicated he
was disabled and would be the sole proprietor of the business. The business
would be his only form of income.
MOTION TO AMEND was made by Chairman Davenport supported by Commissioner Schneider
that the following condition be added, "Permit be granted fo a one-year period."
MOTION TO .AMEND CARRIED. (3-0-1) (Commissioner Barron
abstained)
The Commission then voted on the main motion as amended.
MOTION CARRIED (Commissioner Barron
abstained)
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1A-928 tom Harty A-828 Conditional Use Permit
MOTION was made by Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Vasiliou that
the Planning Commission make the., following recommendation to the City Council;
That. the City Council find that the bait sales operation of the HarXty's BoatRentalenterprise, located: on the east shore of Medicine Lake at 19th Avenue
North, be considered an accessory use and shall re{slain as such until it would
become greater than 25% of the business or at a point where expansion of the
use would be required, Further, that said accessory use be permissible under
the. current and existing conditions of the business, i.e., 20 fishing boats,
20 sail boats and three pontoons;.
MOTION CARRIED (3-0 1) (Commissioner Barron
abstained)
A-350 Northland Mortgage A-350 Final Plat
MOTION was made by Cortimissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Vasiliou that
the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council;
That the request of Northland Mortgage for final plat approval of Maple Creek,
located on the west side of Vicksburg Lane at 28th Avenue North, proposed for
78 single family detached dwelling units, be approved, subject to the following
conditions:
1. Compliance with the provisions of the City Engineer'sMemorandum,
2, All private driveway access to Vicksburg Lane shall be prohibited:
3. Street names shall be altered as follows:
A. 28th Place shall be 28th Avenue North.
B. 28th Avenue shall be 28th Avenue North;
C. 27th Circle shall be 27th Place North,
D. 27th Court shall be 27th Avenue North.
F 26th Avenu,- shall be 26th Avenue North,
4, Lot 1, Block 3 not be allowed to be sold until the establishment of the final
Medina Road alignment as affects the lot. Further, that 40 feet of right-of-
way be taken from Lot 1, Block 1 for the purposes of Medina, Road,
MOTION CARRIED (3-0-1) (Commissioner Barronlabstained)
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A-827 Carlogk ;Equipment Co. A-,827Site Plan
Staff presented petitioner's request for site plan approval of a 76,765 squarer foot
structure proposed to be located in the southwest quadrant of 27th Avenue: North
and Niagara Lane for office, warehouse and manufacturing purposes by an owner
occupant., Staff made recommendations andobservationsregarding the proposal
per the Staff report of dune 1 1178.
Commissioner Schneider stated that he felt the parking lot was located too close
to the LA -3 guided propertt to the south.. Staff pointed out that the setback
requirement in the Zoning Ordinance was 20 feet whereas petitioner had provided
35 feet. Commissioner Schneider stated that he felt the setback for the structure
and parking should be 75 feet when abutting a residential use.
Commissioner Vasiliou asked how many people were employed;by the business.. Rich
Garlock stated that they employed 80.people at the p went time.
The Commission discussed a possible reorientation of the site in order to induce
a 75 foot setback for structure and parking for the use from the residential
guided property to the south,
Commissioner Schneider stated that he felt the landscaping should also be enhanced
for `the site, Mr. Garlock stated that he was willing to add as much landscaping
as would be required.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Vasiliou supported by Chairman Davenport that the
Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council:
That the request of Garlock Equipment Co. for site plan approval of a 76,765
square foot structure for o. -ice, warehouse and manufacturing purposes, located
in the soutwest quadrant or Niagara. Lane and 27th Avenue North be atproved,
subject to the following conditions.
1. Compliance to the provisions of the Engineer's Memorandum.
2. Provision of a bond guaranteeing landscaping and private improvements for 18 months.
3. Payment of Park Dedication fees -7n -lieu of $5,933-.
4. Prohibit outdoor storage - specifically the "steel scrap containers" depicted
on the site plan,
MOTION TO AMEND was made by Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Vasiliou
to add the following as condition #5= "A 75 foot setback b,, maintained from the
parking lot to the south property line abutting; the residentially guided property."
MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED (3-0-1) (Commissioner Barron
abstained)
Commissioner Schneider stated that he felt the condition was essential to protect the
integrity of the residential district,
MOTION TO AMEND was 'made by Commissioner Schneider supported by Chairman- Davenport
to add the following as condition #6. "Lantxscaping on the east remain as proposed
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with landscaping on the south to include 15 Black Fulls Spruce 5 feet in height.
Further, all other landscape stock be of the following sizes: coniferous trees
5 feet in height, balled and burizped, deciduous trees be 22 inches calipher,
balled and burl'-apped.
MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED (Commissioner Barron;
abstained)
The Commission then voted on the main motion as amended.
MOTION CARRIED (3-0-1) (Commissioner Barron
abstained)
A-263 Carlson Properties A=263Site Plan
Staf presented petitioner's request for site plan approval of an office/warehouser`
manufacturing rental structure of 73,000 square feet proposed to be located at
the southeast corner of East Center Circle, which would be the last of the buildings
to be cionstructt-,d in the industrial mini -park, Park Industrial Village. Recommendations
and obi vations of Staff were made per the Staff Report of June 5, 1978. In
addition, a letter, presented to the City by flke Valentine of Carlson Properties,
was distributed to the Commission, by way of explanation of the sate plan and
mitigating differences in acreage and parking requirements and variances thereto
doted in the Staff Report.
With respect to parking spaces required, Mr. Valentine stated to the Commission that
it had been their experience that when a group of rental structures, such as the one
proposed, were controlled by one ownership, the parking situation was one which.
would be controlled by the owner in that tenants would have to be found to meet
the facilities available, including the number of parking spaces. Further, in
such projects, it had been found that the greatest possible amount of manufacturing
use compared to warehousing had been 50%, therefore eliminating e need to deal with
a manufacturing formula in terms of parking spaces for the entire ,site. Also, the
structures were built to a height that would, in many cases not be suitable for
manufacturing uses, i.e, the ceiling height of the structures were better suited
to warehcusing uses wherein manufacturing uses would fins! greater ceiling heights
a disadvantage vis -avis the comparable cost of maintenance of the structures in
heating bills alone.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Barron that
the Planning Cotrznission make the following recommendation to the City Council:
That the request of Carlson Properties for site plan approval of a 73,000 square
foot structure for office/warehouse/manufacUring rental, proposed to be located
at the southeast corner of East Center Ciacle, be approved subject to the followingconditions:
1, Compliance with the provisions of the Engineer's Memorandum.
2. Landscape and paving performance bond be provided to the City for 150% of the
cost of the improvements termed for 18 months.
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3. Outside storage. of waste, waste materials andproducts shall be prohibited,
4. Payment of Park Dedication fees -in -lieu for 4.78. acres of newly developed
acres of .$4,063 (4,78 acres X $850 per acre)..
FURTHER, that a variance of 46 parking spaces from City Council Resolution #75-206
be granted due to the unique situation of the building being one of several under
one ownership.
MOTION CARRIED (4-0-0) (All in favor)
A-825 Kamps--Borderman A-825 Site Plan
Staffpresented petitioner's request for site plan approval of a 9Q,0.00 square foot
structure proposed to be located at the southeast corner of Highway 55 and Niagara
Lane for rentalto warehouse tennants,. Observations and recommendations of Staff
wei,e made per the Staff report of June 1, 1978.
Bob Worthington, representing petitioner, stated that with respect to the outside
storage, it was understood that this was not permitted and that Kamps-Borderman
would' comply with the Zoning Ordinance, thereby freeing space in the location of
the proposed outdoor storage area for additional parking spaces. in response to
the Staff Report commentary regarding the landscape species size, Mr. Worthington
responded that it would be the intent of petitioner to have coniferous trees
5 feet in height, balled and burlapped with deciduous trees 2 2- inches calipher,
balled and. burlapped at the time. of planting.
Mr. James O'Neil, representing petitioner, indicated that in his experience as
a developer of industrial parks, that a parking formula of one. parking space for
every 350 square feet gross floor area would seem extreme. He stated that even
it industrial parks where there was a substantial amount of manufacturing, the smal-
lest proportion of warehouseing was 20% for most manufacturing fimrs, which they
must provide for themselves in any structure.
MOTION wa; le by Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Vasiliou
that the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council:
That the request of Kamps-Borderman for site plan approval of a 90,000 square foot
structure proposed to be located at the southeast corner, of Highway 55 and Niagara
Lane for rental to warehouse ten,nts, per plans dated May 19, 1978, be approved,
subject to the following conditions:
1. Compliance with the provisions of the City Engineer's Memorandum,
2. Provision of bond guaranteeing landscaping and private improvements for 18 months.
3. Payment of Park Dedication fees -in -lieu of $5406.
4. Outside storage of trash and trash contain.rsp rohibited and reference thereto
shall be deleted from the site plan
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5. No variances for parking n
p k g setback or from the p,ov sions of City CouncilResolution75-206 shall be permitted and the site plan shall be modified
to reflect compliance.
6. Landscape plan be enhanced by doubling of the quantity of all stock proposed-,
coniferous trees to be 5 feet in height, balled end burlapped deciduous
trees of 21i inches calipher, balled and burlapped,,
MOTION CARRIER (4-0--0) (All in favor)
Chairman Davenport declared a five-minute recess at 10:00 p.m.; the meeting
was to reconvene at 10;.05 p.m,
A-826 Mudcat A-826 Site Plan and Conditional Use
Permit
Staff presented petitioner's request for site plan and conditional use permit for
outdoor storage for office/warehouse and storage of portable dredge leasing
service on property located in the southeast quadrant oT Niagara Lane and 28th
M Avenue North. The structure was proposed for 19,200 square feet on a 3.84 acre
parcel. Observations and recommendations of Staff wens made per the Staff Report
of May 31, 1978.
Bob Worthington, Rauenhorst Corporation, representing petitioner, stated that he
felt condition #3 i.e. limiting the use to a total of 10 pieces of dredging
equipment on site, was too confining for the use. He added that the number of mudcats
would likely not be more than 10 at any one time, however, such a condition was,
in effect, telling the business that they could not grow.
Mr. Worthington explained the berming alonq Highway 55 and the manner in which it
had been designed to conceal the mudcat vehicles. It was designed to be at an
elevation two feet higher than the maximum height of the mudcats.
Dick Allendorf, representing Mudcat, explained the function of the units to the
Commission, Commissioner Vasiliou asked Mr. Allendorf how the equipment was
transported, Mr. Allendorf e-.plained the operation to the Co.nmission indicating
that a crane and flat bed truck wereused for the transportati=on. Neither the
crane or the trucks would be stored on site.
MOTION was made by Gommi.:sioner Vasiliou supported by Commissioner Schneider that
the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council:
That the request of Mudcat for site plan approval of a 19,200 square foot.structure
and a conditional use permit for outdoor storage, for property located in the south-
east quadrant of Niagara Lane and 28th Avenue North, be approved subject to the
following conditions;
1. Compliance with the provisions of the City Engineer's Memorandum.
2. Payment of Par4 Dedication fees -in -lieu of $3,264.
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3. Outdoor storage shall be limited to not more than 10 Mudcat dredges,
4. The entire storage area shall not encroach the 50 foot setback from Highway $5.
5. Provision of bond guaranteeing landscaping and private improvements for 18 months.
The Commission discussed the Landscape plan in greater detail.
MOTION TO AMEND was made by Commissioner Barron supported by Commissioner Vasil'iou
to add the following as condition -6; "Elevation of the berm shall be increased
from 976 to 978 and the landscape treatment shall include extension of the berm
along; the west side of the project at the same elevation as the berm to the north
and. :east and continuation of the landscape stock."
MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED (3-1-0) (Commissioner Schneider
against)
Commissioner Schneider stated that he did not feel the landscape treatment was
sifficient.
MOTION TO AMEND was made by Commissioner Barron supported by Commissioner Vasiliou
that condition #3 be deleted.
MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED (3-0-1) ('Commissioner Schneider
abstained)
The Commission then votedon the main motion as twice amended_.
MOTION CARRIED (3-1-0) (Commissioner Schneider
against)
A-467' St, Louis Park Medical Center A-467 Site Plan and Conditional
Use Permit Amendment,
Staff presentrA petitioner's request for site plan approval and a conditional use permit
amendment for a Planned Business Development to allow a 14,,635 square foot medical
clinic on prope-ty located between Harbor Lane and Highway 55 in the Fox Meadows
area, The clinic was proposed as a substitute for an office building within the
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Planned Business Development. Further recommendations and observations of Staff
werF made per the Staff Report; of May 31, 1978.
In -r,-:sponse; to the Staff report, Jim Stahlhanske, representing St. Louis Park Medical
Center, sta d't the landscape stock would include coniferous trees of 5 feet
height ozd de,,Jdoa:is trees of 21-z inches calipher.
MOTION -,as made by C'ommiss$ ones' Barron supported by Comm ssioner Vasi'liou that the
Planning Contission !,sake she following recommendation to the City Council:
That the reque.TT, of the St. Louis Park Medical Center for conditional use permit
amendment of the Planned Business Development for Fox Meadows, as approved by
Council Resolution #73-219, to allowsubstitution of a clinic for one of the
office buildings of said Planned 13Usiness Development, be approved..
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MOTION CARRIED (4-0-0) {All in favor}
MOTION was made by Commissioner W-ron supported by Commissioner Vasiliou that the
Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council:
That the request of St.. Louis: park tledicalCenter for site plan approval of a
14,635 square foot structure for a medical clinic on a 3 -acre site, located
between Harbor Lane and Highway 55, be approved, subject to the following conditions
1. Compliance with the provisions of the City Engineer's Memorandum
2. Payment of Park Dedication fees -in -lieu of $2550.00 (3 acres x $850 per acre)
3, No outside storage be allowed for the use.
4. Provisions of bond guaranteeing landscaping and private improvements for 18 months.
5. Elimination of one parking space to avoid variaiice for parking setback to the
east property line.
MOTION TO AMEND was made by Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Barron
that the following be added as condition #6 "Landscape StoCk be of the, fallowing
dimensions. coniferous trees be 5 feet in height, balled and burlapped, deciduous
trees oe 21-i inches calipher, balled and burlapped,"
MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED (4-0-0) (All in favor)
The Ccmnission then voted on the main motion as amended.
MOTION CARRIED (4-0-0) (All in favor)
A-803 Haply Chef A-830` Site Plan
Staff presented petitioner's request for site plan approval for a restaurant of
3,900 square feet on'a 1.3 acre site located at the southwest corner of Highway
55 and Fernbrook Lane. Recommendations and observations of Staff were made per the
Staff report of June 1, 1978,
In response to the Staff report, representatives of Happy Chef presented a site
plan mitigating the implied variances to a degree and explained the new plan to
the Commission
The Commission discussed the site plan with petitioner in detail;
LOTION was made by Commissioner Barron supported by Commissioner Schneider that the
Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council.
That the request of Happy Chef for site plan approval of a, 3,000 square foot restaurant
structure, proposed to be located at the southwest corner of Fernbrook Lane and
Highway 55 be denied based upon the following findings:
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1. The curb cut to 4ernbrook Lane is too close in proximity to highway 55 for
use by this site.
2. Proposed sign is in violation of the Zoning Ordinance requirements,
3. The five va-iances requested are not based on a hardship situation.
MOTION CARRIED (4-0.:0) (All in favor
Commissionor Schneider commented that, in parti,i ar with sites along Highway 55,
special consideration should be given to landscape plans and structures meeting
Zoning Codes due to the prominent location within the City.
RReptrts of Officers, Boards and Commissions
Staff presented the first 'phase of the Comprehensive Plan Element completed by
Barton-Aschman, consultants for the project. The Commission discussed the
possibility of scheduling work sessions to discuss the project in detail.
Minutes of May 3, 1978 Planning Commission Meeting
MOTION was made by Commissioner Barron slapported. by Commissioner Vasiliou that the
minutes of the May 3, 1978 Planning Cu.,tission meeting be approved as written,.
MOTION CARRIED (4-0-0) (All in favor)
MOTION TO ADJOURN was made by Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Vasiliou.
Chairman, Davenport adjourned the meeting at 12;40 a.m.
APPROVED BY PLANNING COMMISSION 47 of 0
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Charles E. Dillerud, Secretary