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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 03-15-1978PLANNING COMMISSION x CITY OF PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA March 15, 1978 A regular meeting of the Plymouth Planning Commission was called to oruer by Chairman Davenport at 7:30 p.m. in, the Coundl Chambers of the :Public Works Building, 14900 - 23rd Avenue North, MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Davenport, Commissioners Barron, Schneider Threinen, Vasiliou and Stewart MEMBERS ABSENT: Commissioner Erickson STA PRESENT. Charles Dillerud and Kate Marx A•698 St. Paul Companies/Meadow Corporatioln A-698 Preliminary Plat/Plan RPUD 76-6 Staff presented the request of petitioner for preliminary plat/plan,appro,Il of the Rrakeland RPUD 76.6 including 116 single family detached dwellings on the north_ 48 acres of the site, known as Nathan Trails, and 240 multiple family units on: the south 26 acres of the site.: Observations and recommendations of Staff were explained per the Staff report of March 8 1978, Commissioner Schneider asked if it was the intent of petitioner to now have a total, of four curbb cuts to 45th Avenue North, as opposed to the two proposed previously. Petitioner's engineer, Rick Sathre, McCombs -,Knutson, responded that this would be preferred in that the two lots would likely be under different ownership. Commissioner Threinen questioned whether Staff had advised petitioner that the shed type garages proposed for the site were not currently allowed under the orovisions of the 7wming Ordinance. Staff stated that petitioner had been so advised. Mr. Satbre pointed out that it was still' possible for them to change their plans at: this time with respect to the garages but that federal approvals were still being awaited which nay require the "shed type" garage stalls. The Commission discussed the density'if the project stating that should the federal approvals not be forthcoming, petitii,oner would already have been allowee, the density credit amongst the single family units but that the multiple family units would swill be eligible for density reductions. The Commission continued q to discuss how the density reductions would be controlled. Mr. Sath.re asked if the Commission woulr isider the periphery lots at l'ecs than the 15,500 square feet minimum lot size for transition. The Commission concuri-ed that -the lots at the periphery of the site should be 15,500 square feet minimum. John Gabrielson, Coldwell Banker, stated that the owners of the property, St Paul Companies, were willing to take the risk represented by the potential loss PLANNING COMMISSi011 MEETING MINUTES 9. March 15, 197$ of dens i t,, credi c should the Section E subs 1 di zi ng of the multiple units notbeapproved. Chairman Davenport closed the hearing at 8:30 p.m, MOTILIN was made by Commissioner Barron supported by Commissioner Stewart that the Planning vommission take action on this ;;dem at this meeting.' MOTION CARRIED (6-0=0) (All in favor) A-350 Northland -Mortgage A-350 Preliminary Plat of Napi e Creek Staff explained the history behind Ue subject project and presented the request of petitioner for preliminary plat approval Proposed were 130 single family dwelling lots to be located at the southwest cornet of Vick,lburg Lane and 30th Avenue North. Staff made racoma,,ndations and observations regarding the request per the Staff report of 'March 9, 1978. Commis<ioner Schneider questioned the 58 foot width of the trail and drainage corridor at its smallest point routed through the center of te property, Peter Molinaro, representing Northland Mo),tgage, erp,lained the t. 'dth. Commissioner Vasiliou asked if'Northland Mortgage would develop the property on their own. Mr. Molinaro indicated that they would be developing the property and would then sell the developed or improved lots to the buildersinterested. Commissioner Vasiliou also asked the proposed price range of the homes for the area; Ken Carlson, Northland Mortgage, stated that the builders bidding on the area had expressed interest in hones ranging from $90--100,000 ,and up in price. With respect to the Medira. Road alignment and future traffic potential, it ,.as asked if it would be possible to alter the cul-de-sac of 29th. Avenue North at the northeast corner of the plat of mitigate the Medi.:a Road alignment and potential traffic problems. Petitioner responded that this would, be possible. Fred Sattler, 16440 -28th Avenue North, stated that he was concerned that the 60 foot wide, trail easements on both the east and west portions of the projec would eventually be used as a roadway and asked that the Planning Commission recommend the "center" of Block 6 (ail back yards of Block 6 lots) as a natural area. He indicated that currently it existed as a habitat for many wild animals and would like to see the area preserved. Mary Ellen Witchger, 16531 -26th Avenue North, stated that she, too, was concerned that 'undesirable traffic would result if an east -west route would evr r be located within the currently proposed trail easement, of 60 fleet in width toward the south portion of the plat. Ted Larson, 16501 -29th .Avenue North,, stated that he too, would prefer to see the area comprising the back yards of all .Block 6 lots remain as a natural area and left disturbed as little as possible even during construction in the area. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES _3_ March 15 1978 Burt Shilkrout, Shenandoah resident, asked if people currently living in the area would'be assessed for this projei:t. Staff explained the assessment process to Mr. Shi7.krout and indicated those portions that would affect Shenandoah directly and indirectly. Chairman Davenport closed the public hearing at 9;10 p.m. MOTION was made by Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Vasiliou that the Planning Commission take action on this item at this meeting. MOTION CARRIED 6-0-0) All in favor) Chairman Davenport stepped,down for discussion of the following item Vice Chairman Schneider assumed the chair. A-792 Lundgren Bos. Ccnstruction, Inc. A-792 Preliminary Plat/Plan, Concept Plan for RPUD 78-1 "Burl Oaks" At its meeting of February 22, 1978, the Planning Commission deferred action on the subject Concept Plan with specific direction toward modification. In addition, the public hearing on the preliminary plat/plan was continued with the under- standing that it would be considered at the next meeting assuming all modifications had been complied with.. Further, the matter of disposition of the Gleason Lake peninsula was referred to the Parks and Recreation Advisory Commisson for recommendation. Staff presented the amended requests -f Lundgren Bros. Construction Inc. for the Concept Plan and Preliminary Plat/Plan for ti`UD 78-1, Burl Oaks, and made recommendations and observations regarding the modifications thereto per the Staff report .of March 9. 1978. Staff p1r ) reported that it was the recommendation of the Parks and Recreati, AGviso,,° ,ommission that the peninsula on Gleason Lake be deeded to the Minnes4of Natural Resources (DNR) as a first option, otherwise to be taken. d`e City of Plymouth. Commissioner Vasiliou questic,.ed whether G,: : not already received an opportunity to act upon the purchase of this property. It was stated that they had been offered the opportunity to purchase the property. The Commission discussed the possibilities of DNR ownersh,ip of the parcel in greater detail. Commissioner Threinen addressed the situation of the off -set intersections of 5th Avenue North existing I4o the west and the proposed 5th. Avenue North to the east of HighwV 101 within the project. He stated that he felt the intersection should be aligned to match to allow for signalization of the intersection in the future should greater traffic problems develop for the -irea. With an off -set intersection, signalization would not be possible. Russ, Ewoldt, 16925 -9th Avenue North, representing 21 of the residents living on the south side of 9th Avenue North, reported that neighbors had met with Lundgren Bros. to discuss the problems they had with the proposed development. He relayed the following; PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES -4_ March 15, 1978 0 1. With respect to the lots backing up to the lots on 9th Avenue North, it had been their assumption that since the Planning Commission had: asked that these be 15,500 square feet, that they would be 15,500 square feet. AltWigh the developer was not representing them as 15,500 square feet at this time, it was still v desire that this be done. 2. With respect to the storm sewer assessments that would be required, the neighbors asked that they not be assessed for the storm sewer that would be a r-,:ult of this project. 3. With respect to the access to Burl Oaks via 9th Avaoje North for the first portion of the development, the residents asked that a. time limit be set that would be reasonable both for the residents and the develojve with a date in mind of September, 1979. Staff expla ;ped to Mr. Ewoldt how the storm sewer assessments would be handled and. defined the mc-chanics of the development cantract that the City requires of every developer which would bind that developer to a closing date for a project as well as guarantee the improvements be made as contracted. Mr. Ewoldt stated th," the residents had also asked that the ponds located at the northeast portion of the project remain as ponds if at all possib1c. Rick Sathre, petitioner`s engineer, stated that it was not the developer's intent to seek assessment of the public improvements from the adjacent property owners. In fact, the assessments would be hand,d by those who would be living within the project boundaries. Also, with respect to the lots located adjacent to the existing 9th. Avenue North resid,nts, it was the intention of the developer to build .;s close to the front setback line as possible, therefore ;gutting the greatest distance possible between the structures exis-cing on 9th Avenue North and the proposed structures. Mr. Ewoldt asked if it would be reasonable that the rear yards of the homes bp 100 feet in depth. Staff indicated that this iould be possible. Sandy Werts, 17305 -9th Avenue North, stated that she felt it was important to consider erosion control, protection and screeninq of the trail from residents hemselves. She stated that the Luce Line should be pr-tected from having too many personal paths to it from the homes. Dick Ziminski, 16900 -9th Avenue North, stated that n,,,orcy,- would possibly be tempted to take a short route from 9th Avenue North, south across both trail easements directly to the Lucca Line. He suggested alternatives be sought to prevent this situation. Mr. Sathre stated that their reasons for locating the trail as shown were 1. Batter access for the entire project as well as the 9th Avenv- ,north residents." 2. More direct routing was available this way. 3., It could serve as an emergency vehicle access if need be.. Don Lindgren, 340 Merrimac Lane, stated concern for the entire Gleason Lake area PLANNING. COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES -5 March 15, 1978 and the ecological balance that may be upset by the development of the land surrounding it. Mr. Ziminski asked if it would at all be possible for the pond located at the northeast portion "o drain to the north and potentially flood their properties.. Mr. Sathre stated that the pond was currently designed to drain to the south and would be redesigned only in a manner: to continue the southward flow. Ms. Werts asked if Plymouth was currently operating under any Shoreland Regulations. Staff explained the status of the Shorel and Regulations adoption for the City of Plymouth. Mr. Sathre responded that it was their intent to take existing Shoreland Regulations from other communities in the state into account when designing this property. In fact, the design of the plat was in accordance with the strictest oil the Shorel and Regulations currently in exi st-rzce. Vice Chaiman Schneider closed the public hearing at 10:30 p.m. MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Cummissioner Barron that l the Planning Commission take -action on this item at this meeting. MOTION CARRIED (5_0-0) (All in favor) Vice Chairman Schneider declared a five-minute recess at 10:35 p.m. Chairman Davenport returned to the table and reconvened the meeting at 10:40 p.m A-698 St. Paul Companies/Meadow Corporation A-698 Preliminary Plat/Plan RPUD 76-6 MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Vasiliou that the Planning Commission`make the following recommendation to the Qity Council: that the request wt St. Paul Companies/Meador Corporation for preliminary plat/plan and RPUD Conditional Use Permit for Drakeland,,per plans dated February 8, 1978 be approved stbiect to the following conditions. 1. Redesign to increase Single Family Dwelling lots sizes on the west plat periphery to 15,500 square feet minimum to accornplTsh on-site density transition. Park dedication shall be the fees -in -lieu equivalent of 8.8 acres less 1.25 acres credit for dedicated trail corridors and such storm w4.ter holding credit es deemed appropriate by the City Engineer based on waters •ccs be held within the site that originate outside of the site. All dedication shall be with the initial final plat, but fees -in -lieu payment may be pro -rated consistent with the number of units within each future final plat, 3. Compliance with the provisions of the City Engineer's Memo. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES -6 March 15, 1978 0 4. Ali private curb cats for single family lots to Nathan Lane and 49t avenue North shall be prohibited.. 5, All development within the s,„utn 26 acres currently labelled "Drakeland” area, Bl• ck 1, Lots l and 2, shall be subject to specific site plan approvals, applicab`te ordinance provisic-is and development density shall not in any case exceed 240 units with at least 71 ur is affordable to families of low-moderat= income or 169 units without the prescribed number of low -moderate income units. 6.. The initial single fa.. etached final plat shall include provisions for the construction of tch Avenue North and 'the intital apartment final plat/plan shall include provisions for construction of 45th Avenue North.. Commissioner Threiiien states, that in his opinion, the 15,500 square foot lots at the periphery of the site were not necessary, but that he could see no alternatives. He added -that the 71 units of elderly should be given the best attempt possible in order to obtain Housing and Urbai, Development subsidy.. Commissioner Threinen stated that ie was prepared, also, to hold petitioner to the commitment of taking, the risk with the lesser density if subsidized housi g did not become a reality for the property. Commissioner Schneider asked Mr. Sathre why a pond had been chosen as the transition tool ' the single family and the multiple family residential areas, Mr. Sathre , yp: nded that the difference in elevation was the primary factor in designing the property in this manner. Commissioner Schneic.r asked petitioner what thb width of the dike was. Mr. Sath,e responded by explaining in detail the planned construction of the two ponds and the dike. MOION TO AMEND was made by Commissioner Stewart supported by Commissioner Threinen that: a cotetion #7 be added to read: "Private curb cuts be limited to Orleans Lane for 1 26, Block 1 a,id Lot 1, Block 4," MOTION TO AMAD CARRIED (6-0-0) (All. in favor) MOTION TD AMEND was made by Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Stewart that a cotiditioi( n8 be added to read: "Transition area between multiple and single family be alt i maximum width and be accomplishe by extending the waterway ift order to make the dike between the 2 ponds as small as possible.. MCTION TO AMEND Cr.RRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) he Commission discussed the transition , a in gre,ter detail. MOTION TO AMEND FAILED (2-3-1) (Chairman Davenport, Commissioners Barron and Threinen against; Commissioner Vasiliou abstained) The Commission then voted on the main motor, ar amended. MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (Fill in favor) PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES -7- March 15, 1978 A- M Northland Preliminary P1«j, if Maple Greek MOTION was made by Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Threinen that the lel anrring Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council That, the request of Northland Mortgage for Preliminary Plat approval of Maple Creek, -ocated at the southwest corner of Vicksburg Lane and 30th Avenue North, as previously approved by Council Resolution ##75-82 (preliminary plat) and Resolution #75-231 (final plat) per plans dated February 24, 1978, be approved subject to the following conditions: I. All areas labelled "park" shall be relabelled "outlot" and be dedicated with the final plat 'together with Outlu;s A -D as now labelled. All peCU-strian wr,lkways shall be 30 feet in width for Outlots A, B and Q', 2. Provision of written easement for walkway purposes over that portion of Lot 7, Block 4 now reserved by easement for utility purposes. 3. Alteration of the creek dra?tmoy line through Lots 3-7, Block 4 to provide usable lots and convLyance to the City of the necessary drainage easements along this creek. 4. Compliance with the provisions of the City Engineer's Memorandum, 5. Lot 1 Block 3 be decreased in size in order to accentmodate straight ryrearyarddimension, MOTION TO AMEND was made by Commissioner Threin,n supported by Commissioner Barron to add the fol'owing as condition ##6. "No furt'",ar subdivision of Lots 1, 2, 3, 14, and 15, Block 6.. Developer shall insure that the natural featO-es and habitat not be altered in the rear portions of said lots," MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) The Commission then voted on the main motion as amended. MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) !,A;1 in favor) MOTION was made by Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissloiier Stewart that the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council: That the request of Northland Mortgage for preliminary plat and rezoning from R-2 (Low Density Multiple) to R -IB (Low Density Resi',dential) approvals for Maple Greek 2nd Addition, located at the southwest cornei, of Vicksburg Lane and 30th Avenue North, per plans dated February 24 1978, bo ipproved subject to the following conditions: I. Increase in lot width at setback to 90 feet on Lots 7 and 10, Block 9. 2. Increase in lot area to 15,500 sq uari feet of Lots 2-5 and 17, Block 7. 3. Increase in lot width at the rear lot line to 30 feet on Lot 6, R" icl, 10. xe 'i Lim PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES --8- March 15, 1978 IP 4. Dedication of "Outlot E"" for public utilities and walkway purposes with the balance of public open space requirements to be satisfied with, the plat of Maple Creek,. Further, said outlot be decreased to 30 feet in width. 5. Compliance with the: provisio,s of Vie City Engineer's memorandum. 6. All private drive access to VicksLurg Lane shall be p.rohibite6. 7. A portion of Lot 1, Block 11 be dedicated as right-of-way for Medina Road subject to the recommendation of the City Engineer. MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) Chairman Davenport stepped down for discussion of the following item; Vice Chairman Schneider assumed the chair. A-792 Lundgren Bros. Construction, Inc A-792 Preliminary Plat/Plan, Concept Plan for RPUD 78-1, "Burl Oaks" MOTION was made by Com"nissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Schneider that the Planning Counis.sion make the following recommendation to the City Council; That the request of Lundgren Bros. Construction, Inc.. for Preliminary Plat/Plan Concept Plan and Conditional Use Permit for RPUD 78-1, "Burl Oaks," located at the southeast corner of Highway 101 avid 6th Avenue North (extended) per plans Staff -dated March 9 1978, be approved, subject to the following conditions; 1. Storm water drainage study be conducted of the site and reviewed by the City Engineer, with particular attention to the north portion of the property. 2. Private drive access to Highway 101 be prohibited. 3. All diseased trees be removed from the site at owner's expense. 4. Completion of the Environmental Assessment Worksheet process. 5. Structure setbacks along Highway 101 be 50 feet.; structure setbacks on the internal streets of the project shall be 35 feet icor front yard and 10 feet for side yard. 6. Compliance with the provisions of the City Engineer's memorandum. 7. Park Dedication shall consist of Outlots A, B and C. Fees -in -lieu shall be required should the Minnesot.l Department of Natural Resources acquire Outlot D by June 1, 1978. I" not acquired by the .ONR by Jame 1, 1918, Outlot D shall be dee( to the City for park purposes per the Parks and Recreation Advisory Commission recommendation. PU"NIING COMMISSION MEETAINIQ MINUTES March 15, 1978 8. The area labelled 'park" shall be relabelled "Outlot D" for purposes of identification onlyw g, Ail lots on the northern periphery of the project shall be a minimum of 15,500 square feet. 10. There be a 9th Avenue North access fir temporary purposes_, located to the cast of the project, The period of time for use shall be specified: in th= development contract with the termination date of approximatelySepterrber, 19.79, ll. Lot. 29, Block 1 be granted a variance for 25 foot yard setback to preserve the pond on the north portion of the lot. 12.. Rear setback on Lots 24-27, 81od; l shall be minimum of 100 feet. 10, 5th Avenue North on the east side of Highway 101 (within the proposed Burl Oaks development) be aligned with 5th Aven le North on the west side of Highway 101 (within Hawthorne Ponds). Commissioner Threinen stated that he felt the Parks and Recreation Advisory Commission recommendation regareing the peninsula was sound, and should be followed. With respect to the 5th Avenue Noah intersection with Highway 101, he indicated that fie fele.' there would be no allowances for control of a potential traffic problem via signalization should the intersection be offset at this point. MOTION TO AMEND was made by Comanissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Vasil.ou, to substitute the following for condition V: "Park Dedication shall consist of Outlots A, B, and C as well as the peninsula on Gleason Lake, south of the Luce Line trail Commissicner Schneider stated that; in effect; he was moving to ignore the recommendation of the Parks and Recreation Advisory Commission in that he felt the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources had a poor record for maintenance of their parks and that -he did not feel if would be appropriate for the peninsula to be neglected from lack of maintenance or the inabilitwF cf the Minnesota ONR to supply the manpower necessary, to maintain the park MOTION TO AMEND FAILED (1-4-0) (Commissioners Barron, Stewart, Threinen,and Vasiliou against) MOTION 10 AMEND was made by Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Barron to deletecondition #13 of the main 'motion. MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED (3.2-0 (Commissioners Threinen & The Commission then voted on the main motion as amended. Stewart against) MOTION CARRIED (5-0-0) (All in favor) Chairman Davenport resumed the chair. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINtYTZS. -10 March 15, 1978 X350 Northland Moet gage A-350 Final Plat of Maple Creek Staff presented the request of petitioner for final plat approval of Maple Creek, a single family residential plat proposed west of Vicksuurg Lane between 26th and 30th Avenues North for 52 units, Staff made recommendations and observations regardingtherequest. per the Staff report of March 9, 1978, MOTION was made by Commissioner Schneiaer supported by Commissioner Vasiliou that the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council, That the request of Northland Mortgage for final plat approvalof Maple Creek, a single family residential plat proposed west of Vicksburg Lane between 26thand30thAvenueNorthfor52units, be approved subject to the following conditions. 1. Compliance with the provisions. of the City Engineer's memorandum, 2. Relabelling of thea ares shown as "park" to "Outlot E" and "Out'lot F" and dedication of all outlots to the City without restrictions as to use. 3. Provision of a written' walkway easement over the west 30 feet of Lot 7, Block 4. 4. Alteration of the creek drainway line through Lots 3-7, Block 4 ro provide usable lots ai,d conveyance to the City of the necessary drainage easements along this creek S. All other prelininary plat conditions, as applicable, shall be met and be a part of this recommendation, MOTION CARRIER (6-G-0) (All in favor)" A -M5 Lundgren Bros.: Construction, Inc. A-615 Final Plat of Ferndale Norah 3rd Addition Staff presented petitioner's request for final plat approval of Ferndale North Third Addition, located east of Ferndale Road between 4th and 9th Avenues North extended). The final plat consisted of 55 single family dwelling lots and four outlots. Staff made recommendations and observations regarding the plat per the Staff report of -March. 10, 1978, The Corrunission discussed the potential problems which' would result from not building 9th Avenue North bett:zeen Alvarado and Brockton Lanes, The matter was discussed in greater detail with petitioner's representative, Rick Sathre of McCombs -Knutson. MOTION was made by Commissioner Stewart supported by Commissioner Schneider that the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council. That the request of Lundgren Bros. Construction, Inc, for final plat approval of Ferndale North Third Addition, located east of Ferndale Road .between 4th and 9th Avenues North (extended) consisting of 55 single family dwelling lots and four nLANNINO COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES -li- March 15, 1978 outlots, per plans of Staff report dated March 10, 1978, be approved, subject to the following conditions: 1.. Compliance with the provisions of the City Engineer's memorandum. 2. Re -identification of outlots to eliminate two "Outlot D's." 3. Completion of 9th Avenue North between Alvarado and Brockton Lane. 4. Park 'Dedication shall be consistent with the terms and conditions of the development contracts for Ferndale North and Ferndale North Second Addition. MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) A--705 Clif ord; Otters A-705 Final Plat of Cedar View Estates Staff presented petitioner's request for final plat approval of Cedar View Estates, a single family residential plat located at the southeast corner of County Road 15 and Ranchview Lane, consisting of nine Lots. Staff made recommendations and observations regarding the plat per the Staff report of March 10, 1978,. C1iffcrd Otten, petitioner, stated that he felt the assessments of the property were going to'become a problem for him in meeting the requests of the City. The Commission reviewed the situation with Mr. Otten in greater detail and concluded that there would appear to be some inequities for this particular petitioner to be singly required to bear the burden of the storm sewer problem in, this area. MOTION was made by Commissioner Vasiliou supported by Commissioner Barron that the Planning Commission make the fo"i1owing recommendation to the City Council That the request of Clifford Otten for final plat of Cedar View Estates located at the southeast corner of County Road 15 and Ranchview Lane, consisting of nide single family lots, be approved subject to the following conditions: 1. Compliance with the provisions of the City Engineer's memorandum. 2. Park Dedi ca'.i on fees -in -lieu not to excee,' $150 per lot. 3. All private driveway access to County Road 15 shall be prohibited. FURTHER, that variances be granted for lot width at front setback for Lots 3, 4, 5, 7 and 9 due to the shape of the parcel and prohibited access to County Road 15. 0 MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING'MINUTCS -12- March 15, 1978 Chairman. Davenport declared a recess to the meeting at 12:05 a,m.., said meeting to be reconvened at 7.30 p.m., Thursday, March °16, 1978. The regular ra?eting of March 15, 1978 of the Plymouth Planning Commission was reconvened by Mice Chaff an Schneider at 7:30 p.m. March 16,. 1978 in the Council Chambers of the Public Works Building, 14900 - 23rd Avenue North MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Davenport (9;00 Commissioners Barron, Schneider, Stewart, Threinen and Vasiliou MEMBERS ABSENT. Commissioner Erickson STAFF PRESENT: Charles Dllerud and Kate .Manx A-03 Rauenhorst Corporation A-403 Final Plat of Circle Star Business Center 3rd Addition Staff presented petitioner's request for final plat approval of Circle Star Business Center 3rd Addition a commerci,aljindustri'al plat proposed for eight lots, located at -the southwest corner of Fernbrook Lane and,Highway 55 Staff made recommendations and observations regarding the plat per the Staff report of March 10, 1978. I Bob Worthington, representing Rauenhorst Corporation, stated that Rauenhorst was fully aware of the Coimnission and Council intentions regarding future curb cuts to Fernbrook Lane.: He uuesti oned whether it would be allowed for a buyer of one: of the lots within thisxplat to, even though told about the Fernbrook Lane situation, petition for a curb cut to Fernbrook Lane. The Commission ocinted out that it was the right of any petitioner to petition as they would like for a site, and that the Commission and Council would consider the petition. MOTION was made by Commissioner Stewart supported by Commissioner Threinen that the Planning Commission snake the following recommendation to the City Council, That the request of Rauenhorst Corporation for final plat approval G. circle Star Business Center Third Addition, located at the southwest corner of Ferlibrook Lane and Highway 55, consisting of commercial and industrial lots, per plans of Staff report dated March 10, 1978, be approved, subject to the following conditions.- I. onditions: 1. Compliance with provisions of the City Engineer's memorandum, particularly with respect to a future median cut and turn lanes in Fernbrook Lane. 2; Specific and recordable quit claim by petitioner for any and all access rights on all Highway 55 frontage. 3. The median cut in the proposed median in Fernbrook Lane may be closed for other than southbound entry and exit traffic at such time that the traffic volume exceeds projections of the petitioner's traffic consultant and/or a significant accident history is determined. PLANNING COMMISION MEETIPG MINUTES -13 Ma, ch 15, 1978 i MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) 011 in favor} A=681 EntF.rprise Properties -8 Final Plat of 3chniidt Lake Woods 2nd Addition Staff presented the request of Enterprise Properties for final plat approval -of Schmidt Lake Woods 2nd Addition, located south of 49th Avenue North at Forestview Lane, proposed for 17 single family detached lots and three outlots_. Staff made recommendations and observations regarding the plat per the Staff report of March 10, 1978, MOTION was made by Commissioner Stewart supported by Commissioner Threinen that the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council: That the request of Enterprise Properties for final ,plat approval of Schmidt Lake Woods 2nd Addition, located south olf 49th Avenue North at Forestview Lane, proposed for 1' µince°t fzz oily detached lots and three outlots, per plans of StaffreportdatedMarch10, 1978, be approved subject to the following conditions: 1. Compliance with the provisions of the City Engineer -s miznorandum» 2, Private curb -it access to 49th Avenue North shall be prohibited. 3, Written eas:4 for and construction of a temporary cul-de-sac at the south end of Forestview Lane. MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) A-800 McCort s -Knutson Associates, Inc. A-800 Site Plan -for McCombs -Knutson Building Staff presented the request of McCortibs-,Knutson Associates, Inc. for site plan approval of an office structure of 25,400 square feet to be used by the owner/occupant engineering firm and a portion to be used for rental. The site was located at the northwest corner of Industrial Park Boulevard and Highway 55 South Service Drive. Recommendations and observations were made by Staff ooncorning the structure per the Staff reports of March 13 1978 and March 16, 1978, Skip McCombs questioned which uses would be acceptable as rental occupants of the rented portion of the structure. The Commission discussed this at length with petitioner mentioning the traffic and hours situations of the industrial zoning areas. The Commission suggested that short-term customers of renters, such as dentists, doctors, realty office, would be inappropriate to the traffic and hours of the industrial district. The homebui;der firm suggested by Mr. McCombs seemed to be a use that could meet the traffic/hours ,situation of the industrial district as Would a similar consulting type operat!,.gin to that of. McCombs -Knutson.. It was pointed out, however, that any use would require a conditional use permit and review by 6 PLANNING COMMISSION K ETING MINUTES -14- March 15, 19018 by the Planning Commission and City Council. Mr. 'McCombs further explained his business to the Commission, in terms employeesandbusinesshours. MOTION was made by CoWssioner Trot^einen supported by Commissioner Stewart that the: Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council That the request of McCombs -Knutson Associates, Inc. for site plan approval of an office structure to be located on the north side of Highway 55 at industrial' Park Boulevard, proposed fcr 25,400 square feet, for owner/occupant-and rental uses, per plans Staff report dated March 10, 1978, lie approved subject to the following conditions 1. Outside storage of waste and waste materials shall be prohibited, 2, Compliance with the City Engineer's .memorw um on this project.. 3. Landscape bond be provided to the City, termed for 12 months, guaranteeing private improvements. 4. Park dedication fees -in -lieu shall be $1,015 ($500/acre). 5. Building permit shall be withheld pending compliance with item 14.1 of the Minneapolis Indostrial Park 3rd Addition development contract; 6. All structure occupancy shall be subject to specific conditional use permit approval per Section 8, Subdivision 3 of the Zoning Ordinance. MOTION CARRIED (5-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Vasiliou. that the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council: That the request of McCombs -Knutson Associates, Inc. for a conditional use permit to occupy the; McCombs -:Knutson. Associates Building :proposed to be located north of Highway 55 at Industrial Park Boulevard, within an I-1 !Planned' Industrial) zoning district, be approved based upon the following findings 1. The activities of the business do not entail the traffic by the general Public into the Industrial District. 2. The business hours of the office correspond with those of ,other I-1 uses. monm CARRIED (5-0-0) (All in favor) I* PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES -15- March 15, 1978 A-799 Volp Construction Company A-799 Site Plan Staff presented the request of Volp Construction Company for site plan approval of an owner -occupied structure proposed to be located in the southwest quadrant of Fernbrook Lane and 23rd Avenue North. Petitioner was plann.sg a structure of 50,804 square feet with 18,352 square feet owner -occupied and 32,452 sgLjk'e feet. available for rental. Staff made recommendations and observations regarding the project per the Staff reports of March 10th and 16th, 1978. The Commission discussed a common driveway situation with this petitioner and the adjacent site, Dailey Printing, Inc. MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Barron that the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council: That the request of-.Volp Construction for site pian approval of a structure of 50,804 square feet for owner/occupant and rental uses, located in the southwest quadrant of Fernbrook Lane and 23rd Avenue North, be approved subject to the following conditions: 1. Compliance wittl the provisions of the City Engineer's memorandum, in particular wl h respect to the drainage situation on the site and the. potential necessity for flexibility in its design. 2. Park, Dedication fees -in -lieu shall be $1,715. 3. Landscape bond be provided to the City, termed for 18 months, guaranteeing the completion, of on-site improvements. 4. Outside storage of waste, waste material or products shall be prohibited. 5. Zero driveway setback to the west property line is on the assumption that the site plan for Lot 2, Volp Development Addition is amended to also reflect a common drive. 6. No building permits shall be issued for the site until the final plat and development contract for the Volp Development Addition are approved and executed by the City. MOTION TO AMEND was made by Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Stewart to add the following as condition V: "Any and all diseased trees be removed at the owner's expense." MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED (5-0 O) (All in favor) The Commission then voted on the main motion as amended.. MOTION CARRIED (5-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION was made bj Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Stewart that the Planning Commission make t,ie following recommendation to the City Council: That the site plan for the Dailey Printing, Inc. structure adjacent to the Volp Construction proposed site plan located within the southeast quadrant of PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES -16 March 15, 1978 Fernbrook Lane and.23rd Avenue North, be amended to include a 15 foot strip on the east side of the site for purposes of inclusion as a common dr.ve «°gid for accomodation of maneuvering space on both sides. MOTION CARRIED (5-0-0) W1 in favor) It was pointedout that even though petitioner, Dailey Printing, Inc., had not planned to do the east parking, that it may be manA--tory that the drive be paved, regardless of the parking baing added on the east. Chairman Davenport arrived at 9:00 p.m. and assumed the chair. A-801 F. C. Hayed Rauenhorst Corporation. A-801 Site Plan Staff presented petitioner's request -for site plan approval of a 184,000 square foot structure for distribution of major appliances. The project was proposed to be located in the northwest quadrant of 'Qerkshi,.. Lane and County Road 15. Staff made recommendations and observations regarding the project per the Staff report of March 13, 1978. The sign location for the property was discussed with petitioner. It was suggested that the berming be slightly askew in order to allaw the sign to bE seen at the 20 foot setback line. The Commission concurred that .his would not be objectionable. MOTION was made by Commissioner Stewart supported by Commissioner Threinen that the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council: That the request of F. C. Hayer (Rauenhorst Corporation) for site plan approval of a 184,000 squre foot structure, located it the northwest quadrant of Fernbrook Lane and County Road 15 for an owner/occupant distrubution firm, per plans of Staff report dated March 10, 1978, :be approved subject to the following conditions: Compliance w; th the provisions of the City Engineer's memorandum. 2. Outside storage of waste; waste materials or products shall be prohibited. 3. Landscape bond be provided to the City guaranteeing private improvements, to be termed for 18 months. 4. Park dedication fees -in -lieu of $6,03.5. 5, Future parking shall be constructed at the south of the site. 6. Identification sign shall be set back a full 20 feet. Commissioner Threinen doted that should the future parking be 'moved to the south, it would also be necessary to move the trees proposed for landscaping of that area. PLANNING COMMI S= P4 MEETING MINUTES -17 March 15, 1978 MOTION. TO AMEND Mas made by Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Barron to add the following as condition J7: "All Black Hills Spruce trees as shown on the landscape plan shall be 6 feet in height at planting. Also, the landscape stock between the two curb cuts shall, be doubled," MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED 5-0-1) The Commission then voted on the main motion as amended. MOTION CARRIED 5-0-1) Chairman Davenport abstained) Chairman Davenport abstained) Commissioner Stewart tepped down for discussion of the following item. A-802 Judy's Restaurant A-802 Site Plan and Conditional Ube Permit iff presented petitioner`s request for site plan approval of a 2,700 square foot Class II restaurant on a site of 43,908 square feet located in the southwest quadrant of Fernbook Lane and Highway 55. fecomnendations and observations of Staff were made per the Staff report of March 13, 1978. Cnairman Davenport stated that he felt tha stacking distance to the diive-in portion of the business was critical. Gerald Paschke, petitioner, explained how the drive- in portion of the business worked and indicated that he fPlt the stacking distance, based on past experiences, was adequate. Chairman Davenport asked how much o` the business was from drive-in patrons. Mr. Paschke stated that 15% of the business was from the drive-in patrons. Crtairman Davenport stated that he felt if ;:he drive-in window was located on the west of the building, It would allow for more realistic stacking distance for the drive-in portion of the business. Mr. Paschke stated that his experience was that this was not necessary. Conxrissiones Threinen questioned why the handicapped parking stall could not be moped closer to the building, for example, to the spot set aside for deliveries. Mr. Paschke explained that the handicapped parking stall was located in its current position in order to allow the greatest amount of spare for maneuvering with wheel chairs, crutches, etc. The delivery space was not intended to be exclusively for deliveries. During , -!n hours, the spot for deliveries would function as an additional parking space. Deliveries were only to be made before opening time for the restaurant. Commissioner Threinen asked why the areas indicated with hatch marks on the site plan were so designated. Mr. Paschke stated that the intent was to stop parking in these areas in order to store snow. Commissioner Threinen stated that he did not feel this would, in fact, stop parking within the areas hatch marked if the PLANNING COMWISSIOX MEETING 41NUTES _18- March 15, 1,978 lot was full. MOTION was made by Commissioner, Schneider suppo :.ed by Commissioner Threinen that the Planning Commission make the following recomxaendation to the City Council That the request of Judy's Restaurant (Gerald. Pa,,chke) ,or site plan and con wtiona.l use permit approval of a Class II ,restaurant of , ,700, sq)iare feet on a site of d 43,90$ square feet located in the southwest quadrant of lFernbrook Lane and Highway 55 per plans of Staff report dated .March 10, 1978, be .approved subject to this following conditions 1. Compliance with the City Engineers' Memorandum. 2.. Outside storage of waste and waste ,containers shall be prohibited. Delete the outside storage area shown and create one more parking space. 3. Pak d,dication fees -in -lieu shall be $500.00. 4. Landscape bond shallbe For 12 months. 5. No building permits shall be issued for the project until Final Plat approval of Circle Star Business Center 3rd Addition, and execution by the City of the development contract for same." 6. Approval of the landscape plan shall' be deferred pending a professional plan and. review by the Planning Commission MOTION TO AMEND was made by Commissioner Thr.:nen supported by Commissioner Vasiliou to add the following conditions: "7. The cross -hatched areas shall, be curbed to pr ecbde parking; and 8. The handicapped parking stall and up ramp shall be relocated to be immediately south of the, building so as not to require crossing of traffic lanes by handicapped persons.." MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED (5-'0-0) (All in favor) The Commission discussed the landscape plan ir-r-ater detail indicating to petitioner that it would be important to "beak.., i`y" the Highway 55 frontage for the property. The Commission discussed signage of the building with petitioner. MOTION TO AMEND was made by Commissioner Barron supported by Commissioner Schneider that the following condition be added: "9. 'Rauenhorst Corporal%ion, developers of tate Circle Star Businesc, Center 3rd Addition, shall be required to bring to the Commission a master pylon sign plan for all uses to exist within the area." I'TION TO AMEND CARRIED (5-0-0) (All in favor) NOTION TO' AMEND was made by Commission Barron supp°jrted by Commissioner Threinen to add the following as condition #10: "The parl,ing space marked for deliveries not be designated for 'no parking` but be used as an additional parkiltg space during business hours_." MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED (.5-0:-0) (All in Tavor) PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES _19 - The Comr`,:: ion then voted on the main motion as thrice amended. MOTION CARRIED 6-0-0) Commissioner Stewart returned to the table. March 15, 1978 All in favor) A-796 W. D. Gine A -79b Conditional Use Permit Staff presented petitioner's request for a conditional use permit to operate a real estate office for 3-6 employees from a single family dwelling structure located in the southwest quadrant of Highway 55 and Highway 101. Recommendations and observations of Staff were presented per the Staff report of February 17, 1978, Petitioner was not in attendance. LOTION was made by Commissioner Barron supported by Commissioner Stewart that the Planning Commission make the following recommendation•to the City Council— That the request. of W. D. Gagne far a conditional use permit to operate a real estate office at 4155 Highway 101 be denied based upon the following findings; 1. The intended use as described by the petitioner's applicaiton is not permissible by conditjnal use permit in an R-0 (Restricted Resi.dertial zoning district. 2. The int-,ndeu use is beyond the scope of a "home occupation." 3. Issuance of a conditional use permit would be contrary to the provisions of City Council Resolution n75-664 as to renv"ition of urban development.. MOTION CARRIED (5-0-?' (Commissioner Threinen abstained) Commissioner stated that he did not feel he could act on the matter as he had not heard the petitioner's arguments. hINUTES OF PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS MOTION was made by Commissioner Barron supported by Commissioner Vasiliou that the minutes of the February 22, 1978 Planning Commission meeting be approved as written, MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION was made by Commissioner Sc;lneider supported by Commissioner Barron that the minutes of March 1,, 1978 Planning Commission me,, -ting be approved as written. MOTION CARRIED (5-0-1) (Commissioner Stewart abstained) MOTION TO ADJOURN was trade by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Schneider, Chairman, Davenport adjourned the meeting at 10:40 p.m. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES -20- March 15, 1978 APPROVED BY PLANNING. COMMISSION April 5, 1978 David Davenport, Chairman P7ymoitth. Punning Commission te. d Char es E. 1laerud, Secretary