HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 07-27-1977PLANNING COMMISSION:
CITY OF PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA
July 27, 1977
A regular meeting of the Plymouth Planning Commission was called to order by
ChairmanDavenport',at 7;30 p.m, in the Council Chambers of the Public Works
Building, 14900 -23rd Avenue North;
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Davenport, Commissioners Erickson, Hagen, Hoyt,
Schneider, Stewart and Threinen
STAFF, PRESENT.: Charles Dillerud and Kate Marx
A-7 ber Creek A-739 Preliminary_ Plat
Staff presented the Commission with the history of the request to date indicating
that the pr8vious deferral of the July 13, 1977 Planning Commission meeting was due
to the request of the Commission for an engineering report as to the most appropriate
alignment for Pilgrim Lane to the north through the plat. The City Engineer indicated
that of the alignments proposed, the -most northerly alignment was best suited to the
needs and requirements of the City.
Commissioner Threinen asked what the Engineer's response was to the proposed align-
ment of East Medicine Lake Boulevard with Pilgrim Lane. Staff indicated that the
right angle intersection, as proposed by petitioner, seemed adequate.
Commissioner Threinen also questioned the disposition of the City property to the east
of the plat. Staff,indi(ated that the area was necessary for storm water holding at,
this time, however, it was not deemed necessary to have access to the parcel from the
plat.
Commissioner Threinen commented that he had expected a formal engineering study of
the road ,questions posed to the engineer, as opposed to the iliformal manner in which
the questions had been responded to for this project, The Cormnission concurred that
a formal report would have been more appropriate.
It was understood by the Commissionthat the alignments of Pilgrim Lane and East
Medicine Lake 'Boulevard as proposed by petitioner's proposal D would be the proposal
under consideration ;for approval at this time,
David Brumm, one of the petitioners,, stated that it was the feeling of the petitioners
Ikhat they should receive more credit for the dedication of the Lakeshore property as
trai'I to the City than the general rule application of 10% of the value of the land.
He stated that this property was the most valuable of the plat and that since they
were being requested to dedicate it to the City, its value should be given due con-
s 'Iderat°)an;
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Marwood B. He en, owner of the property to the north of the proposed plat,, stated
that he did not feel the size of the logs between his future plat and the property
to the south under consideration should be at all different in size. He stated that
he was planning to have larger lots t ian those proposed to the south of his land
and he therefore felt the lots to the south should also be larger.
Allen Stensrud, 3051 Quaker Lane, reiterated his cc rn for the alignment of Pilgrim
Lane to the north. He stated that he did not feel thoroughfare was necessary,
nor did he feel it was fair to have his property cut off by the alignment of the road.
Chairman Davenport closed the public hearing at 8:10 p.m.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Erickson that the
Planning Commission take action on this item at this meeting.
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTIONCARRIED
A- 99Wymouth Creekview' NJ Ad i ti o__n_A-1 99 Preliminary ,Plat
Staff presented the revised preliminary plat for the subject project responsive to
the Commission suggestions of the previous review of the plat on June 1, 1977.
Commissioner Threinen questioned whether Lot l of the proposed plat would still have
a problem of having enough buildable area. Staff responded that the drainage way
would probably Meed to be readjusted to make the lot buildable. It was further noted
that the right-of-way necessary for 26th Avenue [forth to Teakwood Cane would also
take a substantial amount of area from the lot and potentially make it unbuildable
as proposed.
The possibilities for Lot l were discussed with petitioner, John Sebold of Carlson
Properties and petitioner's engineer, Dick Knutson. They concurred that, if necessary;
Lot 1 could be elirfi'nated as currently proposed and the remainder of the area for the
lot incorporated into the other three lots due to the drainage way problems and the
requirement for right-of-way.
i Chairman Davenport closed the public hearing at 8:30 p.m.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Threinen that the
Planning Commission take action on this item at this meeting.
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
A-750 Cheney Industrial Park A-750 Preliminary Plat and
Rezoning
Staff presented petitioner's request for: preliminary plat approval of an eight -,lot
Industrial plat proposed at the northwest corner of Niagara Lane afld 28th Avenue
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North and rezoning from Rzw0 (Open Residential) to I-7 (Planned_ Industrial). A
recommendation for approval was proposed; by Staff subject to the conditions as
listed in the .Staff report of July 20, 1977.
Commissioner Hagen questioned whether the shape of Lots 7 and 8 as proposed would be
functional, Staff indicated that it would be possible.
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Commissioner .Eri.ckson asked if it would be necessary to have the ponding area dedicated
as an outlot. Staff indicated that it would .be handled as an easement.
Dan Ralicki, representing petitioner, stated that he had several objections to the
proposed conditions of approval as indicated by Staff, i.e. 1) the right-of-way
dedication of Medina 'Road was excessive. He stated that he felt the property owner
to the south should be. asked to dedicate at least half of the right-of-way necessary,
but petitioner should not be required to dedicate the entire road, 2) the pond should
be allowed to be built differently to allow for: greater surface/buildable area for the
lot involved; 3)it would be easier to have two access/egress points from Niagara
Lane as opposed to a shared access for two of the lots.
Chairman Davenport closed the public hearing at 9:00 p.m.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Stewart supported by Commissioner Threinen that the
Planning Commission take action on this item at this meeting.
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
A-739 Timber Creek A-739 Preliminary Plat
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Stewart that the
Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council
That the request of Saratoga Development Co. for preliminary plat approval of
Timber Creek", a plat of 25 single family detached dwellings, located at
Pilgrim Lane and 29th Avenue Horth be approved per proposal D of petitioner
subject to the following conditions
1. Designation of that portion of Parcel 1553 west of East Medicine Lake Boule-
vard as Outlot B.
2. Satisfaction of 1.7 acre (74,000 sq. ft.) Park Dedication requirement
byt.edication of Outlots A and B to the City for trail purposes (50,011"0., 0 sq
3. Incorporation of Outlot C with Plat 43740, Parcel 1503 or dedication as street
right-of-way,_
4. No variances for any lots be allowed for lot width or tat area.,
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Commissioner Threinen stated that he felt petitioner's argument regarding the greater
value of the Lakeshore property withrespect to Park Dedication was persuasive. The
Commission concurred.
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
A-15L P1 ,mpuf h Creekview Ed Addition A-199 Preliminary Plat and
Rezoning
MOTION was made by Commissioner Erickson supported by Commissioner Stewart that
the Planning Commission snake the following recommendation to the City Council..
That the request of Carlson Properties for preliminary plat and rezoning of
Plyuouth Cr.eekview 2nd Addition", a plat consisting, of four duplex lots located
on the so1ath side of 26th Avenue North between Plymouth Creek and Vision of
Glory Church, and rezoning of said property from R -O (Open. Residential) to
R-2 (Two Family Residential) be approved subject to the following conditions:
I. Compliance with the provisions of the City Engineer's memorandum regarding
this project.
Z. Prohibition of private drive access to 26th Avenue North.
3.. Final plat and development contract provisions to provide for Park Dedica-
tion payment of fees -in -lieu.
4. DNR approval of floodway/flood plain modifications required on Plymouth
Creek to accommodate development of hot 1.
6. The final plat shall reflect right-of-way dedication of curved geometrics
required to accommodate a relocated 26th Avenue North per the Thoroughfare
Guide Plan and be of equal right--of-way width as 26th Avenue North.
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6.. Lot l be eliminated to make a total of 3 lots for the plat. j
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Chairman Davenport expressed concern for the traffic problem that potentially would
develop with. connection of the service road to 26th Avenue North in the vicinity of
the plat.
MOTION CARRIED (6W0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
A-750 Cheney Industrial Park A"750 Preliminary Plat and
Rezoning
140TION was made by Commissioner Stewart supported by Commissioner Threinen that the
Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council:
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That the request of Cheney, Inc. for preliminary plat and rezoning from R -OOpenResidential) to 1-1 (Planned Industrial) for the "Cheney Industria Park"
consisting of eight industrial lots located. at the northwest corner of Niagara
Lane and 28t4 Avenue North be approved subject to the following conditions;
1. Adjustment of the street aligned along the south border (Medina Road)
such that the. full 80 ft.. right-of-way is within this plat over the westerly700ft. of the plat.
2. Development contract provisions limiting private curb cut access to Niagara
Lane to one at the lot line between Lots l and 2.
3. Design of that portion of Pond BC -9 within this plat shall be specifically
approved by the, City Engineer,
4. The final plat shall reflect a 40 ft. easement for trail purposes along
the entire Niagara Lane frontage.
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
Commissioner Schneider arrived: at 9.:35 p.m..
Chairman Davenport stepped away from the table.
A-4199 Minneapolis Industrial Park 3rd Addition A-199 Final Plat
Staff presented petitioner's request for final plat approval of Minneapolis Industrial
Park 3rd Addition located in the northwest quadrant of Oakview Lane and Highway 55consistingofeightindustriallots. A recommendation for approval was proposed sub-
Ject to the conditions as listed in the Staff report of July 22, 1977.
Karl Tomaschewski, 2207 Oakview Lane, stated that the neighborhood had met and con-
sideredt ee landscape plan of petitioner. He stated, that the neighborhood was
generally satisfied with the plan as presented as well as with the covenants pro-
posed for the development.
MOTION was made by Cotrinissioner Thre.inen supported by Commissioner Hagen that the
Planning Commissionmake the following recommendation to the City Council:
That the request of Carlson Properties for final pkat approval for "Minneapolis
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Industrial Park 3rd Addition" consisting of eight industrial lots located in the
i northwest: quadrant of Oakview Lane and Highway 5) be approved subject to the
following conditions.
1. Approval by the Department; of Natural Resources, the Federal Insurance
Administration and the Bassett Creek Watershed. Commission of alterations to
the Plymouth Creek flood plain and floodway.
2. Incorporation of the State Department of Transportation recommendations
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for all proposed Highway 55 entrance points,
3. Compliance with the provisions of the City Engineer's memorandum regardingthisproject.
4. Development contract provisions for recording of the protective covenants,,
subject to the approval of the City Attorney, with the recording of thefinalplat.
5. Development contract provisions for implementation of the landscape plan
prior to issuance of building permits within the plat.
MOTION TO AMEND was made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Erickson that
the following be added as condition #5:
Right-of-way being dedicated along the west side of this plat be temporary to the
extent that when the frontage road is extended to Xenium Lane that, that portion
of the right-of-way be vacated and that a more direct right-angle intersection
with Highway 55 frontage road be created across the property between the plat iandVisionofGloryChurchperthesketchproposedbytheCommission, Exhibit A.
MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED
The Commission expressed concern for the industrial traffic problems that potentially
would occur -at the Highway 55 intersec:1on.
The ,Commission then voted on the main motion as amended.
MOTION CARRIED (5-1-0) (Commissioner Erickson against) MOTION. CARRIED
Commissioner Erickson stated that he did not feel the industrial use was appropriate
for this area.
Chairman. Davenport returned to the table.
A-743 Copeland Cartage A-743 Site Plan
Staff presented petitioner's amended site plan for Planning Commission review.
A recoarlendation for approval was proposed subject to the conditions as listed in
the Staff report.
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MOTION was made 'by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Erickson that the
Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council.
That the rzquest of John Copeland for site plan approval of his 2,400 sq. ft_.
I structure to be located at the northeast corner of County Road 6 and 1-494 be
approved subject to the following conditions.
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1. Dedication by written easement of County Road 6 right -of -war per requirements
of Hennepin County and the Minnesota Department of Transportation (17 ft.
additional now projected)
2. Provision of landscape screening along the north side of the vehicle storage
area to consist of 6 ft. balled and burlapped coniferous trees on 20 ft.
centers (approxima.tely 10 trees),
3. No signs shall be permitted other than a wall mounted nameplate not to
exceed four sq ft. in area.
4. Outside storage of waste and waste containers shall be prohibited.
5 Compliance with the provisions of the City Engineer's memorandum regarding
this project and recommendations ofthe Minnesota Department of Transporta-
tion and Hennepin County.
6. The grading plan for -the site be amended so as to preserve the 'trees between
the two parcels by grading along the west side of the proposed building.
MOTION CARRIED (7-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
A-338 Mission Hills Park 4th Addition A-338 Final Plat
Staff presented petitioner's request for final plat aprpoval of the subject plat
consisting of 31 single family dwelling lots and two outlots located west of Zachary
Lane at 40th Avenue North. Staff proposed a ,recommendation for approval subject to
the conditions as listed in the Staff report of July 21$ 1977.
MO°,ION was made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Erickson that the
Panning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council:
That the request of 'Mission West Development Corporation for final plat approval
of Mission Hills Park 4th Addition consisting of 31 single family dwelling lots
aril two outlrts located west of Zachary Lane at 40th Avenue North be approved
sutJect to the following conditions.
1.. Prohibition of private driveway access to Zachary Lane,
2.Driveway access to Lot 16, Block 2 shall be to Balsam Lane and to Lot 15,
Block 1, from the westerly half of the lot frontage.
3, Fee title transfer to the City of Outlots A and B following grading and
seeding and sodding by the developer, elaper, and wathin 12 months of the approval
by the Council of the ficial plat and development contract.
4. Payment of prorated fees -in -lieu Park Dedication fee.
MOTION CARRIED (7-0.-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
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A-208 Cimarron P:rnds 2nd Addition A-208 Final Plat
Staffpresented petitioner's request for final plat approval of the subject plat
consisting of 130 units located west of Vicksburg -Lane: and north of the Luce Line
Trail. A recommendation for approval was proposed by Staff subject to the conditions
of the Staff report.
The Commission discussed with petitioner the landscape plan for the south property
line to buffer the residents from the project. Petitioner, Jim Hawks, representing
Centurion Company, stated that they were unsure as to what type of screening the
Commission had in mind. The Commissioners made suggestions as to the type of screening
that could be used 'for the screening effort `,o the south.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Erickson, supported by Commissioner Stewart that the
Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council
That the request of Centurion Company for final plat approval of Cimarron
Ponds 2nd Addition consisting of 130 units located west of Vicksburg Lane and
north of the Luce Line Trail be approved subject to the following conditions -
1. Compliame with the provisions of the City Engineer's memorandum regarding
this project:
2. Park Dedication. of Outlot A and payment of prorata Park Dedication f?es-in-
lieu in the amount of $5,446.65.
3, Plan for landscaping shall be provided showing landscape treatment along_
the south property line indicating a screen of approximately 36 trees on
a berm, trees to be 21j" calipher, balled and burlapped, on 25 ft. centers.
MOTION CARRIED (7-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
A-733 Metro Appliance Service, Inc. A-733 Site Plan
Staff presented "peti'tioner's request fir site plan approval of a 30,000 sq.'ft.
structure to be located at the southwest corner of Highway 55 and County Road 15
Petitioner had previously been before the Commission for site plan review; however,
the Commission had deferred to allow petitioner to redesign the site responsive to
parking and other problems that existed. Petitioner, at this time, was asking the
Commission to reconsider the site as originally proposed. Staff proposed a recom-
mendation for approval subject to conditions as listed in the Staff report.
The Commission discussed the parking situation with petitioner in detail. Petitioner
stated that he did not feel itwould be necessary to have as many parking spaces for
the project as the Planning Commission had suggested. Rather, due to the fact that
I his use would require virtually no parking spaces, the only need for parking would be
by those uses renting space from petitioner to use the upper floors. Petitioner's
company vehicles were not stored on site at any time. The employees would stop
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at the site from time to time to re -stock their supplies of equipment and parts from
the storage on site.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen. supported by Commissioner Erickson that the:
Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council
That the request of Metra Appliance Service, Inc. for site plan approval of a;
30,000 sq. ft. structur°' to be located at the southwest corner of Highway 55 and
County Road 15 be approied subject to the following conditions:
I. Installation of two fire hydrants on the site as per Fire: Chief recom-
mendations, Better access to the southwest side of the building will also
be required.
2. Plantings along the west similar to those indicated on the south property
line to provide some visual screening for the existing residences,
8, Prohi:bitiott of outside storage of waste, waste containers or service vehicles,
4. Compliance with the provisions of the City Engineer's memorandum regarding
this project,
5. Site piaci performance security per Zoning Ordinance requirements for 18
months,
6, Payment of a Park Dedication Fee of $625 ($500 X 1.25 acres) prior to
building permit issuance.
7. A variance be granted to allow for 52 parking spaces with the elimination
of four spaces at the northwest corner of the site to ,allow for a loading
space for service trucks.
8. North curb cut be moved 25 ft. eastward to be in line with the loading
space on the site.
MOTION TO AMEND was made by Commissioner Erickson supported by Commissioner Threinen
t114t the following be added as condition #9:
The service area and trash storage building on; tip Nest ,')f the structure be
eliminated with the'spece between the proposed building and the property line to
be developed as green space and to accommodate the grade differential for the
property to the, west.
MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED (7.0-0) (All in favor) MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED
Commissioner Threinen stated that by way of explanation, the number of parking spaces
was calculated based on two floof$s of office Space and one floor of wholesale business.
Commissioner Stewart asked petitioner if was his intention to have the public coming
in for drop-off and pick --up trade. Petitioner stated that this was not his intention,
he did not want any "off -the -street" business at this location,
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Chairman Davenport stated that it should be clear that the variance for the number of '
parking spaces runs to the occupant and not to the nand'. Further, it is based on the
fact that there will be no retail trade taking place at the site.
The Commission theii voted on the main motion as amended.
MOTION CARRIED (5-2-0) (Commissioners Schneider and Stewart against)
MOTION CARRIED
Commissioners Schneider and Stewart stated they were against because they felt the
site would be over-built with the use as proposed and would potentially cause traffic
safety problems:
MINUTES OF PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF JULY 13, 1977
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Schneider that
the minutes of the July lb, 1977 Planning Commission meeting be approved as written.
MOTION QARRIED (4--0-3) (Commissioners Hagen, Hoyt and St-ewart abstained)
MOTION LARK .D
MOTION TO ADJOURN was made by Cormissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Schneider.
Chiarman Davenport adjourned tie meeting at 12.35 a.m.
APPROVED BY PLANNING COMMISSION August 17, 1977
David J. Davenport, Chairman
Plymouth Planning Commission
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Charles E. Dillerud, Secretary