HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 02-16-1977PLANNING COMMISSION
City of Plymouth, Minnesota
February 16, 1977
A regular meeting of the Plymouth Planning Commission was called to order by Chairman
Davenport at 7:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers of the Public Works Garage,, 14900 -23rd
Avenue North.
EMBERS PRESENT; Chairman Davenport, Commissioners Hagen, Hoyt, Schneider, Stewart
and Threine
MEMBERS ABSENT; Commissioner Erickson
STAFF PRESENT Charles Dillerud and irate Marx
OTHERS PRESENT, Kris Grangaard, YAAC Representative
A-716 Daniel Fazendin A-716 Lot Division
Staff presented petitioner's request for lot division of property located west of
11th Avenue North and east of Hadley bake :as per the submitted drawing to accommodate
an additional ,Single family dwelling on the site. Staff proposed a recommendation for
approval subject to the conditions as listed in the Staff report of February 11, 1977.
Commissioner Threinen questioned. petitioner as to any future plans that the owners
may have for further subdivision. of the remaining 6 acres,. Mr. Fazendin responded
that no farther subdivision of the remaining 6 acres was plana' -d at all.
MOTION was made by Commissioner .Stewart supported by Commissioner Hugen that the
Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council:
That the request of Daniel Fazendin to divide 1.0 acres from the southeast corner
of Plat 43731, Parcel 1410 be approved subject to the following conditions:
Payment of $150 Park Dedication Fee for the newly created 'lot prior to
building permit issuance.
2. Water and sewer, extensions and stubs to be -installed at owner's expense.
MOTION C RR:IEO (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
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Comrai Z lover Schneider arrived at 7.-40 pm.
A n5 Crawford Ise A -71S Site Plan
Staff presented petitioner's request for site plan approval of :an 18,000 sq, ft.
building for warehouse/office uses to be located at the southwest corner of lOth
Avenue North and County Road 18 West Service Drive. A recommendation for approval
was proposed subject to several: modifications and conditions as per the Staff report
of February 10; 1977.
Mr. Merz, petitioner, stated that he had submitted an amended site plan to Staff
responsive 'to the Staff report concerns. He presented it to the Planning Commissionfortheirreview. It was also pointed out that Cravrford-Merz will be one of the
tenants of the building with the remainder of the space to be rented out to other
clients.
The Commission discussed the parking situation with petitioner with respect to the
lack of the required number of spaces for such a use.
Commissioner Hagen asKed what mitigating circumstances existed which would indicate
a need for the ,variances requested. Mr. Merz explained that the shape of the lot
was theproblem. roblem. Even though the building coverage was only SO%, variances
were required to fit the structure and its parking spaces on 'the lot as it exists..
Commissioner Schnel&r asked petitioner if he felt the five truck bays were a necessity.
Petitioner stated that he did feel these were all necessary...
MOTIONwas made ,by Commissioner Tht Ainen supported by Commissioner Stewart that the
Planning commission make the follow)ng recommendation to the City Council:
That the request of Crawford -Merz for site plan approval of an office/warehouse
structure to be located at the sauthwest corner of 10th Avenue North and the
County Road 18 West Service Road as represented'on prints dated February 11,719
he approved subject to the following conditions:
1. Compliance with provisions of the City E'ngineer's memorandum darted February 8,
regarding this project.
2. parking and number of parking spaces be as represented' on the February 11,
1977 prints with the following exceptions. as elimination of the seven (7)
parking spaces on the south, said area to be maintained as green space;
aril b) elimination of the rubbish container to be replaced by one additional
parking space. Total number of parking spaces to be 41.
3,. All .:taste and waste storage shall be within thr structure,
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4. Site improvements shall be completed within 18 months andd guaranteed byabondfor150% of the cost of said improvements to be given to the City
prior to building permit issuance.
FURTHERS that due to the unusual size, ,shape and location of this industrial parcel,
a variance be granted for structure side yard setback on the south sof 15 ft. to alldw
a 10 ft, side yard structure setback, a variance to the north (10th Avenue North)
for parking setback from 50 ft, to 19 ft. be granted, and a variance of18 parking
spaces from the 59 required to the 41 i,*;)aces shown.
Chairman .Davenport pointed out to petitioner that with the variance granted for number
of parking spaces, it was particularly important that petitioner lease space only
to the uses that would fit the office/warehouse use. Mr. Herz stated that he under-
stood this and would comply.
MOTION CA::RIFD (5-1-0) (Commissioner Schneider against) MOTION CARRIED
Commissioner Schneider stated that he felt the total number of parking spaces required
as per the City Ordinance and Council Resolution #75-206 should be supplied on-site.
A-498 Chippewa Trails A-498 Final Plat
Staff presented petitioner's request for final, plat approval of the first addition
of the subject project to consist of 18 lots anal. 5 outlots located at the southeast
corner of Test Medicine Lake Drive and 28th Avenue North. Staff proposed a recom-
mendation ecommendatonforapprovalsubjecttotheconditionsandmodificationsaslistedinthe
Staff report of February 11, 1971.
Commissioner Threinen stated that he felt strongly about the circulation pattern for
traffic being complete by the extension of 26th Avenue North totally through the plat
an additional 250 ft from the proposed final plat of this stage). He pointed, out
that the City's Coals, Objectives and Criteria stated that safety in terms of traffic
circulation is the responsibility of the developer.
MOTION was made by Commissi'Oner Hagen supported by Commissioner Threinen that the
Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council.
That the request of Lundgren Bros. Construction Inc. for final plat approval
of Chippewa Trails consisting of 18 lots and 5 outlots, located at the southeast
corner of :West- Medicine Lake Drive and 28th Avenue North subject to the following
conditions:
1, Extension of Outlot A along West Medicine Lake Drive to the northern boundary
of the plat,
2. Dedication of Outlots A (extended) and B and payment of Park Dedication and
Subdivision Unit Project Open Space fees -in -lieu of $5,472.00 (32% of
the total due on the entire plat),
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3. Development contract shall provide for the extension of 26th Avenue North
to existing Evergreen Lane by the most feasible method. 26th Avenue North
shall become Evergreen Lane at the projected intersection with 27th Avenue
North
4. Development contract shall prohibit private access to West Medicine Lake
Drive.
Development contract shall provide for on-site control of surface erosion
during construction.
6. Compliance with 'the provisions of the City Engineer's memorandom of
February 1G, 1977,
Chairman Davenport asked petitioner if it Was stirs their intent to "offset" the
blacktop within the road right=of-way in order to save, as many trees as possible,
Mr. Peter Pflaum, President of Lundgren Bros, stated that this was still their
intention
The Commission also discussed the shatter of allowing a 7-8% grade for streets in
the area, which, in some cases, would also allow more trees to remain on-site,
Engineer Goldberg stated he would have no objection to the increased grades in certain
areas to save trees,,,
The Commission then voted on the main motion.
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
A-647 Schmi t Lake Estates A-647Final Plat
Staff ,p esented petitioner's request for final plat approval of Schmidt << a' e Estates
located at the southeast corner of Larch Lane and 49th Avenue North consisting of
39 single family detached dwelling lots. A recommendation for approval was proposed
subject to the conditions as listed in the. Staff .report of February 11, 1977.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threi:nen supported by Commissioner Stewart that the
Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council;
That the request of Lundgren Bros. Construction, Inc. for final plat approval
of Schmidt Lake Estates located at the southeast corner of Larch is ---a and 49th
Avenue North and consisting of 39 single family detached dwelling 'rots be approved
subject to the following conditions.
1. Payment of Subdivision Unit Project Public Open Space fees--in-lieu of
X11,168.
2. Development contract to provide for prohibition of private access to Larch
Lane and 49th Avenue North.
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3. Development contract to provide for control of surface drainage to
Schmidt Cake during plat construction.
4, Development contract to provide for 10 ft front yard setback variance for
the existing structure on Lot 9, ,Block 1,
5. Compliance with the City Engineer's memorandum of February 14, 1977 regardingthisproject,
MOTION CARRIED (6,0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Stewart that the
Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council:
That the Council consider a change in the Zoning Ordinance as relates to Section 7,
Subdivision 7, paragraph 2e referring to Subdivision Unit Project Public Open
Space wherein cash fees -in -lieu would be acceptable as an alternative to dedic-
tion of public open space land for the public open spare requirements of the
Subdivision Unit Project ordinance.
Commissioner Threinen added -that he felt the Subdivision Unit Project ordinance
should be written in the manner in which it is applied, rather than continually having
variances granted to the ordinance. He stated further that, if the problem is actually
a. need for smaller lot sizes for conventional platting, this problem, too, should
be addressed as soon as possible through ordinance change. The other Commissioners
concurred with Commissioner Threinen.
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-01 (Ali in favor) MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Davenport declared a five-minute recess at 9;00 p.m. the meeting was
reconvened at 9.05 p.m.
A-659 Water Reservoir #4 A-669 Site Plan
At its meeting of February .2, 1977, the Planning Commission had deferred action on
this item. It was now before the Commission for its final action.
Staff presented the landscape plan for the site of the subject project.
City Engineer Goldberg stated _,at this plan had been discussed in detail with the
surrounding property owners and that most were satisfied. The one gentleman still
not satisfied with the treatment proposed for his property is continuing to work with
the City to mitigate the situation.
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Mr. William Driscoll, representing the neighborhood, stated that he was pleased with
the results of the landscape architect hired by the City as were the other propertyownersintheareaexceptingMr. Mahowald.
MOTION was Made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Stewart that the.
Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the C ty Counci"is
That the landscape plan and exterior paint treatment for Southwest Reservoir #4
as prepared by Edward S. Reid of Park Nursery be approved_,
MOTION TO AMEND was made by Commissioner Stewart supported by Commissioner Schneider
to add the following: "Trees at the northeast corner of the site as per the landscapeplanofMr. Reid be moved off Mr. Mahowald's property and onto the Ogden property. There shall be deletion of any trees on the Mahowald property as desired by Mr, Mahowald."
MOTION TO A14END CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in, favor) MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED
The Commission then voted on the main motion as amended.
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
A-675 Plymouth Hills Compan A -o75 Preliminary Plat, General
Development Plan and
Rezoning
Chairman Davenport stepped down for discussion of this item.
Staff presented petitioner's request for preliminary plat, general development plan
and rezoning approvals for the "Plymouth Hills" plat located east of Vicksburg Lane, south of Rockford Road, north of Highway 55 and west of existing Niagara Lane. Peti-
tioner was before the Commission with the traffic study and other information requested
at the previous meeting regarding this project of June 16, 1976. Staff proposed
a recommendation for approval subject to conditions as listed in the Staff report ofFebruary111977.
Commissioner Threinen asked about the future use and/or disposition of Outlot A. Petitioner, ban Fazendin, stated that it had always been the intention of the firm to
deed the outlot to the adjoining property owner to the north.
Mr. Dick Wolsfeld, Bather-Ringrose-Wolsfeld, explained the traffic study results to thePlannirgCommissions
Acting Chairman Hagen questioned Staff as to, whether the City had done any traffic
study with respect to its sites for the City Nall and CentralPark. Staff stated
that the City had not. The City had been only using the Thoroughfare Guide P1 -an initsanalysisofthesitesofar.
The Commission discussed the traffic study of Plymouth .Hill's in detail with Mr. Wolsfeld.
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Commissioner Schneider stated that he recalled earlier discussions with respect to
the coordination of structure design for the entire Plymouth Hills acreage and; asked
Staff where such assurances -ould be made. Staff stated that the development contact
would be the appropriate place for these concerns to be stated in order to assure
compliance., It would also be appropriate to require such assurances in any covenants
that may be a part of the property as a whole,
Commissioner Schneider also asked about the proposed time table for the project.
Petitioner responded that no definitive time table had yet ,been set.. He further
explained that,; being residential developers, it was difficult for them to give any
time table constraints regarding the commercial portion of the venture.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen support -ad by Commissioner Stewart that the
Planning Commission make the following recommendation to -the City Council
That the request of Plymouth Hills for preliminary plat approval of the "Plymouth
Hills" plat by plans dated January 6, 1977 be approved subject to the following.
modifications and conditions.-
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onditions:
1. Blocks 1, 2, and 7. and Lots 1 and 2, Block 8 shall be final plattedonly
as a combined RPUD with residential densities consistent with the Land Use
Guide Plan as follow:
Lot 1 Block l LA -2
Lot 1, Block 2 LA -4
Lot 1, Block 7 LA -2
Lot 2, Block 7 LA -3
Lot 1, Block 8 LA -4
Lot 2 Block 8 LA -4
2, All road right-of-way and public park dedication shall be accomplished with
the initial fi nal plat.
S. Compliance with the irovis ons of the City Engine( t, memorandum dated
February 11,. 1977' regarding this project,
4. Elimination of Lot 1, Block 3.
5. All final plats and development contracts shall include provisions for
the control of surface erosion during construction.
5. Outlots A and B shall not be considered as individual building lots. In
addition, Outlot A shall either be dedicated as street right-of-way or
deeded to the adjacent property owner to th.e north,
Mr. Frank. Larson., Plymouth Hills Company, spoke to the need for the,auto care center
within Lot 1, B1c,ck 3. He stated that this would be the most logical placement of
the facility inview of the proximity to the proposed residential development as well
Q the comnmerc, portion of the project,
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Acting Chairman Hagen stated that he did not feel it was proper to encourage so much
more traffic at an intersection such as this one as would result from having -an
auto care center located where proposed, with so many entrance egress points.
Commissioner Threinen stated that he, too, felt the location of the proposed auto
care center was inappropriate.
The Commission then voted on the main motion.
MOTION CARRIED (54-0)" (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported,:by Commissioner Stewart that the
Planning Commission make the folloiwng recommendation to the City Council
That the request of Plymouth Hills Co. for rezoning of Blocks 3 and 4 of the
Plymout"I Dills" t"•uliminary plat, dated January 5, 1977 from R-O (Open Resi-
dential) '.o B-1 (1 1mited Business); Blocks 6 arJ ,Outlot B from I-1 (Planned
Industrial) to a., A (Limited Business); Block 5 from I-1 (Planned Industrial) to
B-2. (Shopping Ce,,L:!r Business); and Lot 3, Block B fr.:_ R-O (Open Residential)
to B-2 (Shoppinj Center Business) be approved subject to the following conditions:
1. apeciff- development of the lands shall be consistent with the General
ovelopment Plan dated January 31, 1977.
2. 'he 8-1 zoned lands shall be considered a Planned Business Development
consistent with the terms of the Plymouth Zoning Ordinance.
3. ,specific development of the lands shall be ,ubject to individual site plan
review and the availability of public utilities to the site.
4. Where applicable, zoning district lines shall be the center -line of
public streets.
5.. The "Auto Care Center" of the General Development Plan on Lot 1, Block 3
of said plat shall be eliminated, but may be reconsidered at an alternate<
location to be specifically approved by the City Council upon the recom-
mendation of the Planning Cemmission
Petitioner F"azendin stated that he felt it would be more appropriate to zone Block 6
as B-2 as opposed to B-1, He stated: that the B-2 zoning would be more flexible.
The Commission pointed out to Mr. Pazendin that he could present a Planned Business
Development and: accomplish this same purpose as to any particular business use that
may fit the area. The purpose of the Planned Business Development was to provide such
flexibility to developers.
MOTION,, TO AMEND was made by Commissioner Stewart supported by Coranissioner Threinen
that thy. Planning Commission add the following condition as #6 "There shall be
a restriction of access to Vicksburg Lane from the commercial portion of the project,"
In support of his motion,, Commissioner Stewart stated that since Vicksburg Lane was
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to be a major thoroughfare with the resultant traffic of such a road status, it
would be necessary from a safety standpoint to limit access to Vicksburg Lane as
much as possible,
Acting Chairman Hagen stated that he felt this was adequately covered in the City's
policies and that it could be further controlled by site plan review.
MOTION TO :AMEND FAILED (2-.3-0) (Acting Chairman Hagen, Commissioners Hoyt and
Schneider against)
MOTION TO AMEND FAILED
The Commission then voted on the main motion.
MOTION CARRIED (5-0--0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Davenport returned to the table.
REPORTS OF OFFICERS, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS
Commissioner Threinen polled the Commission as to their opinions regarding the need
for change in the following portions of the present and proposed ordinances;
1. Subdivision Unit Project Open Space requirements
2. Xinimum lot size for residential development
3. Industrial Planned Unit Developments
He stated that he would take their opinions to the Zoning Ordinance Review Committee
for any potential action.
Planner Dillerud explainea to the Commission the various projects that would be coming
up in the future which would require Commission action and review.. These items included
a list of concerns from the PlymouthDeveloper's Council, Comphrehensive Planning work
resultant.of the Mandatory Plart ng Act and City need, Metropolitan Significance rules
and regulations, final adjustments to the Proposed Rew Zoning Ordinance, etc.
MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF FEBRUARY 2, 1971
MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Schneider that the
minutes of the Febroary 2, 1977 :Planning Commission meeting be approved as written.
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
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MOTION TOADJOURNwas made by Ccmmissioner Threinen supported by Commiasicner Stewart.
Chairman Davenport adjourned the greeting at 11:15 p.m.
APPROVED BY PLANNING COMMISSION March 9, 1977
David: J. Dayenport, Chairman
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Charles E. Diilerud, Secretary