HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 02-02-1977PLANNING COMMISSION
City of Plymouth, Minnesota
February 2, 1977
A regular meeting of tine Plymouth Planning Commission was called to order by UNairman
Davenport at 7:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers of the 'Public Works Garage, 14900 -23rd
Avenue North.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Davenport, Commissioners Erickson, Hagen, Hoyt, Schneider,
Stewart and Threinen
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT: Charles Dillerud and Irate Marx
OTHERS PRESENT: Jenny Berg, YAAC Representative
A-712 Applecrest A-712 Preliminary Plat
Staff presented petitioner's request for preliminary plat approval of "Applecrest"
located at the southeast corner of Queensland Lane and 3rd Avenue North. The plat
was proposed for 12 single family residential detached dwellings. A recommendation
for approval was proposed subject to the conditions as listed in the January 24, 1977
Staffreport.
Commissioner Threinen stated that he felt it would be easier to locate homes on the
lots fronting 3rd Avenue North (Lots 1-4) if the lot lines to remained as proposed
atier than being squared off as indicated by tfie Staff report.
Mr. Patrick Henry, petitioner, stated that he had been approached by the property
owner to the south regarding a joint development after his submission to the City.
He questioned the procedures necessary to present such a joint development before
the Citi. Staff explained these procedures to Mr. Henry.
Chairman Davenport opened the public hearing to members of the audience.
Mr. Dale Grave, 125 Queensland Lane, stated that he was the adjoining property owner
tothe south and he questionedthe future of 2nd Avenue North to the east of his
property and the Henry property. Staff stated that the right-of-way did not appear
needed at this time for street purposes but should be retained for trail corridor.
Commissioner Erickson arrived at 8.10 p.m.
MOTION TO DEFER was made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Schneider
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the petition of Patrick J. Henry until petitioner could coordinate his proposal with.
the property adjoining to the south.
MOTION TO DEFER CARRIED (6-0-1) (Commissioner Erickson abstained) MOTION TO DEFER
CARRIED
A-208 Cimarron Ponds Addition RPUD 76-3 A-208 Final Plat and Plan
Staff presented petitioner's request for final plat and final plan approval of
RPUD 76-3; Cimarron Ponds located west of Vicksburg Lane between 10th and.13th avenues:
North. A recommendation for approval was proposed subject to the conditions as listed
in the Staff report of January 27, 1977.
Commissioner Threinen stated that he; felt 10th Avenue North should be built to .a
point where cars could use it for purposes of traffic circulation. He pointed out
that the Goals, Objectives and Criteria stated that traffic circulation was a safety
goal to be provided for by the developer in his proposal Should 10th Avenue North
not be built, the development would be allowed only one access/egress forever 100
home dwellings,
Commissioner Stewart stated that he did not feel any access to Vicksburg Lane should
be allowed for Lot 13 of the single family portion of the development.
Mr. Dick Knutson, representing petitioner, stated that the petitioner planned to have
30th Avenue North built to a standard that would allow travel, However, it was not
their plan to install utilities or to blacktop the road until Phase II of the develop-
ment was underway. The cost of doing so was prohibitive.. He added that the subgrade
would be built to City standards.
Mr. Knutson pointed out that the petitioner was still working with DNR regarding the
Luce Line Trail situation and the buffering of the residents to the south of the
project from the project itself,.
MOTION! was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Erickson that
the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council:
IN, -,,t the request of Centurion Company for final site plan and final plat
a val for Cimarron Ponds (Stage I) consisting of 116 units (98 attached/1$
de gid) be approved subject to the following conditions:
1. impliance with provisions of the City Engineer's memorandum of January 26,
1077 regarding this project.
2. Public dedication of Outlot 8 and payment of pro rata park ffees-in-Lieu
of $4,845,13.
3, 10th Avenue North be upgraded to a temporary gravel road, subgrades to be
at City standards, .Road right-of-way for 10th Avenue North to be dedicated
as part of Stage I to provide complete traffic circulation for the project.,
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MOTION TO .AMEND was ;made by Commissioner Stewart supported by Commissioner V reinen
that condition 14 be added to read as follows "No driveway access for Lot 13,
Block 3 be allowed to Vicksburg lane. Said access to. be 'located on the westerly edge
of the lot to allow maximum flexibility of vehicular movement."
MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED (7-0-0) (All in favor)MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED
The Commission then voted on the main'moton as amended,
MOTION CARRIED (7-0-0) (All in. favor) MOTION CARRIED
A-615 Ferndale North 2nd Addition A-675 Final Plat
Staff presented petitioner's request for final plat approval of Ferndale North2nd
Addition located east of Ferndale Lane and south of Hadley Lake. It was pointed
out that petitioner was requesting a slight realignment of Brockton Lane within the
plat. This would not affect lot sizes or setbacks in an adverse way. Also, one lot
had been eliminated from the preliminary plat stage to the final plat stage, the
extra" area used to enlarge other lots surrounding the 2nd Addition as proposed.
Staff proposed a recommendation for approval subject, to the conditions as fisted in
the Staff report ofJanuary 24, 1977.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Erickson supported by Commissioner Stewart that the
Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council:
That the request of 'Lundgren Bros, Construction, Inc. for final plat approval
of Ferndale North 2nd Addition, consisting of 24 single family detached dwelling
units,, located east of Ferndale Lane and south of Hadley Lake be approved subject
to the -following conditions.
1. Compliance w$th the provisions of the City Engineer's memorandum regarding
th- lroject.
2. Design and constructio.,a t,. petitioner of a neighborhood park upon Outlot A
to be dedicated in cbmpl er,..ed fprr) to the City, Plans, specifications and
schedule subject to the recomriitndation of the Parks and Recreation Advisory
Commission.
MOTION CARRIED (7-0-0) (Alt in favor) MOTION CARRIER
A-713 'Paul Kanduth A-713 Lot Division
Staff presented petitioner's request for lot division of unplatted property located at.
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the northeast corner of 36th Avenue [forth and Zachary Lane. Staff proposed a recommenda-
tion for approval subject to the conditions as listed in the Staff report of January 25,
1977.
Commissioner Threinen questioned tine,developability of the remaining piece after
the homestead would be split off from the lot. Staff stated that it would be develop-
able and explained alternatives available to petitioner at such time he would propose
to develop
MOTION was made by Commissiear7-r Stewart supported by Commissioner Erickson that
the Planning Commission mage the following recommendation to the City Council
That the request of Pail Kanduth for lot division of his unplatted property
located at the northeast corner of 36th Avenue North and Zachary Lane be approved
subject to the following conditions:
I. Payment of Park Dedication Fee of $150 for the newly created lot prior
to filing.
2. Easement for 7 ft. additional right-of-way on 36th Avenue North (to a total
frontage of 40 ft. from the center line) over the frontage of Parcel B
be granted to the City of Plymouth prior to filing of the lot division.
3.'.,Chib tion of direct driveway accecs to Zachary Lane and 36th Avenue North
From Parcel A.
MOTION CARRIED (7-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
MOTIONwas made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Stewart that the
Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council:
That the request of Paul kanduth for variances resulting from the lot
division of his property located at the northeast corner of Zachary Lane and 36th
Avenue North be approved as follows:_
1. Lot frontage on Parcel. B from *110 ft. to 108.50 ft.
2. Structure setback from 15 ft. to 3.1 ft. (existing greenhouse) and 3,.4 ft
existing barn) on Parcel A
MOTION CARRIED (7-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Davenport declared a five-minute recess at 9.•05 p.m.; the meeting was
reconvened; at 9;10 p.m.
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A-669 Water Reservoir:#4 A-669 site Plan
p The plans for landscape treatment of the water reservoir and surrounding property
were not available for Commission review,
MOTION TO DEFER was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Hagen
until -Ixtl,e pl4ns for the landscape treatment were available.
MOTION TO DEFER CARRIES) (7-0--0) (All in favor) MOTION TO DEFER CARRIED
Chairman Davenport stepped down from the table for discussion on this item.)
A-710 5rison Companies 2nd Ad itionA- l(} Preliminary'. Plat
Petitioner had submitted two alternative plans to the proposal of January 19, 1977
for preliminary plat of the subject project. Alternative A proposed elimination of
several single faWily lots as well as enlargement of the northeast park property.
Alternative B eliminated all single family lots and proposed most of the eastern
portion of the property as park.. Also presented was a screening plan for the buffering
of the single family residential :area to the south of the proposal.,
Mr. Rick Sathre, petitioner's engineer, explained the plat in terms of intensities
resu Cant of ahigh density residential development as opposed to intensities resultant
of an industrial development. He summarized that the intensities of industrial were
less due to less traffic, number of people, time that activities are taking place, etc.
The Commission discussed the possibility of a U-shaped street through the development.
It was pointed out that any U-shaped street would necessarily cross the railroad
track in the area and would be a greater safety hazard than the present circulation
system proposed.
Mr. Barry McLaughlin, 520 Wedgewood Lane, stated that he did not feel the screening
proposed for the residential neighborhood to the south of the proposal was sufficient.
Mr. Stephen Muller, 625 Sycamore Lane, stated that he did not feel the screening on
the north and eat of the residential areas was sufficient. He stated that there
were gaps in the screening along thQ east property line of the proposal that could be
filled in.. lie added that he felt tk park would be preferrable to the additional tier
of single family lots for the east port=ion of the project;
Mr. Arlan Ashbaugh, 105 Sycamore Lane, aslo asked that more trees be used, to fill in
the gaps in the screening along the east property line of the proposal.
Mr, Tom Lovetan , 015 Windemere Drive, stated that he felt the railroad tracks and
any resultant spurs of the development should be completely screened from the resi-
dential neighborhood to the east and that more screening should be added to buffer the
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neighborhood to the east and north of the project.
Mr. Richard Sollie, 510 Wedgewood Lane, stated that he did not feel placing the
trees on 40 ft. centers to the south of the Bevel-opment would be sufficient buffering
of the residential neighborhood'.
Mr. Roger Mondale, 515 Wedgewood Lane, stated that he did rot feel the ponds would
be safe in terms of children in the neighborhood and stated that he would prefer berms
or simply lawned area as opposed to ponds and open water. Also, he did not feel
that the proposed landscape plan would be sufficient to buffer the southerly residential
neighborhood from the development.
C.-mmissioner Hoyt asked what percentage of the trees already in the area to the east
and south of the project were Elm, and,therefore subject to Dutch Elm Disease.
Staff" stated that the amount was unknown but that Elms did exist in the area. She
also questioned how the continued maintenance of the landscape screening could be
guaranteed for the future. Staff indicated that maintenance issue could be handled.
via the development contract conditions and/or covenants on the various properties
upon which the landscape screening would be located. Bonding of some nature would
also be a possibility..
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by C=Alissi'oner Schneider that the
Planning Commission make the following recommendation to tho City Council:
That the request of Carlson Companies for preliminary plat anct rez=ming from
R• -O (Open Residential;) to I-1 (Planned Industrial) for Carlson Companies 2nd
Addition located at the northeast corner of Xenium Lane and County Road.15
and based on proposed Alternative B dated February 2, 1977, be approved subject
to the following condi J o ps :
I. Compliance with the City Engineer's memorandum of Janaury 11, 197.7 and
any subsequent changes that might be introduced by Alternative B.
2. Removal of the existing structures and maintenance of the area designated
as "park" as a permanent green space with landscape to be provided to the
east prior to the development commencing.. Appropriate landscape bonds
to be given to the City for said work.
3. Elimination of the railroad spur east of Lot 8 and berming east of Lots 3
and 4 to ;creep the railroad tracks from Gleanloch Additicn residents of
the area.
4. Increased landscaping in addition to the proposed screening plan along
County Road 15 with the maintenance of Outlot,C-H to be the responsibility
of Carlson Pr_cperties and/or the current owners of the industrial lots
adjacent t sand outlots.
MOTION TO AMEND was mad; by Commissioner Erickson supported by Commissioner Stewart
that the following be added as condition #5: "300 ft. setbacks be ma,;ntained betgeen
any structure on Lots 7 and 8 and the adjacent residential areas to the east and south.
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MOTION TO :AMEND CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in,, favor) MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED
The Commission referenced the adopted Goals, Objectives and Criteria of the City
stating that the burden of transition rests with the developer, which was their
main thrust behind many of the conditions of the rtiotion.
The Commission then voted on -the main motion as amended.
MOTION CARRIED, (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
MOTION, was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Erickson that the
Planning Commission retake the following recommendation to the City Council:
chat the request for rezoning by Carlson Companies for Carlson Companies
2nd Addition from R-0 (Open Residential) to I-1 (Planned Industrial) be held
in abeyance until complete landscape plans showing the appropriate action on
the conditions of the preliminary plat approval are presented for reviaw to
the Planning ConTaission and City Council.
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
MINUTES OF PLANNING COMMISSIONMEETING OF JANUARY 1.9, 1977
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MOTION was made by Commiss oner Threinen supported by Commissioner Stewart that the
minutes of the January 19, 1977 Planning Commission meeting be approved as written,
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-1) (Commissioner Hoyt abstained) MOTION CARRIED
REPORTS OF OFFICERS, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS
Chairman Davenport welcomed Commissioner Pat Hoyt to the. Planning Commission. She
filled the vacancy left by Reg Kroski n during the previous year.
MOTION 10 ADJOURN was made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Hoyt.
Chairman Davenport adjourned the meeting at 11.00 p.m.
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APPROVED 5Y PLANNING COMMISSION February 16, 1977
David J. davenport, Chairman
Plymouth Planning Commission
Cnarles E. Dillerud, Secretary