HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 12-29-1976PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY OF PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA'
December 29, 1976
A regular meeting of thQ Plymouth Planning Commission was called to order by
Chairman Davenport at 7:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers of the Public Works
Building,- 14900 -23rd Avenue North.
MEMBERS PRESENT; Chairman Davenport, Commissioners Erickson, Hagen, Schneider
and Stewart
MEMBERS ABSENT; Commissioner Threinen
STAFF PRESENT: Charles Dillerud and (fate Marx
A-41 O 01yinouth State Bank T-41 O Conditional Use Permit
Staff presented petitioner's request for a conditional use permit for a remote
drive --in. teller use on a temporary basis for the Plymouth State Bank located on
Highway ;No. 55 between County Road No. 6 and Industrial Park Boulevard.
Commissioner Hagen asked petitioner what the schedule was for ,a permanent location
for the bank.. Mr. Gunther, representing Plymouth State Bank, stated that a perma-
nent building was three to four years in the future.
Commissioner Stewart asked if petitioner could live with a deadline on the condi-
tional use permit of August 18 'IV8. Petitioner stated that the bank could do so.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Stewart that the
Plenning Commission make the following 'recommendation to the City Council;
That the request of Plymouth State Bank for site plan and a conditional use
permit approval for a drive-in banking facility on the northeasterly 18,150
q ft. of Flat 44352, Parcel 3216 be approved subject to the following
tMonditions:
I. Permit shall expire August 103, 1978.
2. Upon permit expiration, the site shall by returned to present appearance
within 90 days. No structures, paving or curb cuts shall remain.
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3. Aggregate identification sign area shall not exceed 96 sq. ft.
4. Security to guarantee site improvements Within 180 days at 1501 of the estimated
value prior to building permit issuance shall be posted with the City.
5. All areas disturbed by construction shall be seeded or sodded.
MOTION CARRIED (4-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIEJ9
147Q_jjkd_e_Jor,gdnson A-470 Lot Division/Consolidation
Staff indicated that petitioner had requested to be removed from the agenda and appear
before the Planning Commission at , later date,
MOTION TO DEFER Waas made by Commis trier Schneider supported by Commissioner Stewart
until a later date when petitioner v,Z.Jd be present to represent his request.
MOTION TO DEFER CARRIED (4-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION TO DEFER CARRIED
Cogimissioner Erickson arrived at 8;00 p.m.
7066 Dennis WeestraiTd -A-706 Lot Division
Staff presented petitioner's request for a lot division of his property located on the
east side of Zachary Lane at 3rd Avenue North. It was pointed out that the lot had already
been sold. The Commission discussed the assessments on the property as to how they would
be split once the lot division was completed.
TION was made by Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Hagen that the
Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council: I
That the request of Dennis Weestrand for division of Plat 437.36, Parcel 7800
as: per the survey submitted November 18, 1976, be approved sijbject to the f.: lowing
condi ti ons
1. Dedication of 7 ft. additional right-of-way to a total of 40 ft. from the center-
line of Zachary Lane along the full frohtage of Zachary Lane (County Road 73).
2. Kark Dedication Fee in the amount of $150.00 be paid to the City prior to
recording.
MOTION CARRIED (3-1-1) (Chairman Davenport against, Commissioner Erickson abstaine0)
MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Davenport stated he was against based on the fact that petitioner had already sold
the lot and he did not feel the division would be approved under other circumstances.
City Hall/CivicCenter
Members of the Citizens for Plymouth Progress were present for discussion of this item
including Marilyn Bremer, Myrna Marofsky, Larry Marofsky and Pat Hoyt.
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Dale Mullfinger of Thorsen and Thorshov presented the Preliminary Plans for the
City Hall and Civic Center to the Planning Commission and explained the narrative
report accompanying their presentation.
Commissioner Erickson asked the architects how the solar energy would be affected
by the use of such, a high parapet - which would shade the roof and, therefore,
solar panels when installed. The architects explained that the shading would not
af-,`ect the efficiency of the, system sufficiently at this point in time to cause
any problems. At such time as the solar energy system would be installed, the type
of system would be the determining factor as to how much of the roof being, shaded
would be too much shading. The architects added that by today's products, 50% of
the roof was the maximum amount needed to be exoQsed to the sun. The current plan
Mould allow for at least 50% and was flexible to 66% exposure.
O,ilyn Breme-r, a member of the CPP, asked what plans for parking would be made
t,osidering the difficult parking situation at the present City Hall location.
Staff explained that municipal building parking requirements were one and two-thirds
times the parking requirements for the type of building in which City Hall is
presently located. This would aide in alleviation of the parking problems City
Hall is now experiencing at the proposed site.
Mr, Lawrence Marofsky questioned the use of the foyer area within the floor plan
of the proposed. City Hall. The architects explained the flexibility of the use for
both quick in -out situations like purchasing of a dog license and longer term
situations such as conferences with several, members of staff with petitioners and
other groups,
Mr. Marofsky also questioned the plans for expansion. The architects explained the
present building proposal to be large enough for the City's purposes fora minimum
of 10 years. After that time, expansion would be available when, public safety would
move out of the building, a minimum of an additional 6 years, and further expansion
to the northeast would be available for the administrative offices after that time.
Mr. Marofsky asked why a separate entrance for the Council Chambers would not be
available allowing the remainder of the building to be locked up during the evening
hours when that part of the building would not be in use. The architects explained
that it would be necessary to gain access to bathroom facilities as well as elevators
for the handicapped, etc. even during Council and Commission meetings, therefore, a
separate entrance was not proposed.
Commissioner Stewart explained that many times during meetings, it was important for
members of the audience to caucus with commissioners, councilmen or even amongst
themselves and that the extra, space of the City Hall would be able to be put to use
in these situations if the building was open as opposed to opening only the Council
Chambers during such meetings.
The Commission then discussed the two alternatives presented for their recommendation
for the exterior treatment of the building.
It was the consensus of the Commission: that the alternatives presented for the
exterior of the building were too few in number and that the character of the two
alternatives presented did not represent the City's character,
Commissioner Erickson stated that the City Hall was intended to be built for the
citizens, not for the Commissioners or the Councilmen; he pointed out that he felt
it should represent the City in its outer design and that this representation would
be the single most visible and therefore most important part of the building.
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It was the consensus of the Commission that more schematics .be presented for
Commission and Council review with t)is statement in mind.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Stewart that
the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council:
That tLe site plan represented by Schematic #12 as presented by the
architects for the City Hall be approved,
MOTION CARRIED (5-0-0) (All in favor) ,MOTION CARRIED
MOTION was made by Commissioner Stewart supported by Commissioner Hagen Dat the
Planning Commission make the followingrecommendationndat7on to the. City Council.
That the floor .plan Schematics P13A and r138 as presented by the architects
for the City Hall be approved,
MOTION CARRIED (5-0'-O) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
Commissioner Erickson stated that he felt the architects were capable of presenting
alternatives other than the two available for: the exterior treatment of the building
and stated to the architects that the Commission had faith in their abilities to do
so. However, at this point in time, the alternatives presented were not satisfactory
with respect to representing the character of the City visibly by the design of the
exterior of the building,
MOTION TO DEFER was made by Commissioner Stewart supported by Commissioner Hagen
action on the exterior design of the City Jiall structure until the architects could
present ad0tional schematics at a later date.
MOTION TO DEFER CARRIED (5-0.0 (All in favor) MOTION TO DEFER 'CARRIED
The Commissium then summarized some of their concerns with the two proposed alterna-
tives for exterior treatment of the structure to give the architects more direction.
With respect to Alternative A, the Commission stated that they felt 1) the curved
affect of the southeast corner of Alternative B could be incorporated; 2) more
character could be represented in the exterior treatment of the City of Plymouth
as opposed to replicas of otherarchitecture in and surrounding the City. With
respect to Alternative B, the Commission stated that they felt 1) there was little
imagination with respect to the exterior treatment; 2) the west elevation appeared
less like a, main entrance and more informal than was imagined from the conception of
the building.
A-647 Schmidt Lake Estates A-647
Staff presented petitioner's request for an amended preliminary plat 1°;hick would
result in the elimination of the park on the "peninsula" of the lake. This would
create one additional building 'lot and also enlarge the frontage of several other
lots within the plat. Petitioner proposed to pay Park Dedication cash fees-in-li.eu
for both the Subdivision Unit Project open space requirements and for the public open
space requirements
MOTION was made by Commissioner Stewart supported by Commissioner Schneider to make
the following recommendation to the City Council;'
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That the request of Lundgren Brothers; Construction, Inc. for an amended
preliminary plat of Schmidt make Estates, to include the .elimination of
Subdivision Unit Project open space, i.e.. the park proposed for the
peninsula" of the lake, be denied for the following reason:
Elimination of the park on the."peninsula" of the lake would make
the plat ineligible for consideration under the Subdivision Unit
Project ordinances
It was stated that if petitioner wished to eliminate the park, conventional
platting ,procedures would be required
Staff stated that petitioner's reason for the request was based on the fact that
financing of projects involving homeowners associations whereby the association
would be responsible for the "common land" was becoming impossible,
MOTION CARRIED (5-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
The Commission then discussed the Subdivision Unit Project Ordinance;.
MOTION was made by Chairman Davenport supported by Commissioner Stewart that the
Planning -Commission make the following statement to the City Council:
The Commissioners have concluded that the present application of the
Subdivision Unit Project Ordinance by the Council is inconsistent with
the ordinance provisions as outlined therein, The Planning Commission
therefore asked far direction to either administer the ordinance
consistently or on changes that needed to be made as a result of the
problems that have surfaced with the ordinance,
MOTION CARRIED (5-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
REPORTS OF OFFICERS, BOARUS AND COMMISSIONS
Southwest Reservoir #
Planner Dillerud presented a progress report on the landscape plan for the water
reservoir to be located at County Road No. 6 and Xanthus Lane, He stated that
Engineer Goldberg had made additional contact with the residents and that an
architect had been hired to aid in the design of the exterior of the tower and
landscaping.
Housekeeping Items
The Commission discussed several items regarding agenda format, procedure of
conditional use permit renewals, enforcement of zoning violations and appointment
of a: member to the Board of Zoning Adjustments which is now vacant.
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MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Erickson that the
minutes of the December 1`5, 1976 Planning Commission meeting, be approved as written.
MOTION CARRIED (5-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
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MOTION TO ADJOURN was made by Commissioner Erickson supported; by Commissioner
Schneider.
Chairman Davenport adjourned the meeting at 11.15 p.m.
PPROVEO BY PLANNING COMMISSION January 12, 1977
David J. Davenport, Chairman
Plymouth Planning Commission
Charles E. Dillerud, Secretary