HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 09-22-1976PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY OF PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA
September 22, 1976
A regular meeting of the Plymouth Planning Commission was called to order by Chairman
Kroskin at 7.,30 p,m. in the Council Chambers of the Public Works Building, 14900 -23rd;
Avenue Borth.
MEMBERS PRESENT. Chairman Kroskin, Commissioners Davenport, Erickson, Hagen,
Schneider and Threinen
MEMBERS ABSENT Commissioner Stewart
STA1= F° PRESENT".: Charles Dill eruct, Milt Dale and Kate Marx
A-680 J. Brooks Hauser A--680 Lot Division
Staff pre,,,mted petitioner's request for a lot division of his property located at
the scutheaat corner of Bass Lake Road and Jonquil Lane. Staff recommended approval
subject to several conditions.
It was pointed out,that petitioner presently accesses the lot via County Road 10 (Bass
Lake Road) and that petitioner would prefer to maintain said access. Staff stated
that the City's adopted Goals, Objectives and Criteria recommended against such
access on major thoroughfares within the City, and tat it would be preferred that
Mr. Hauser access via JonquilLane. it gas also noted that the present proposal was
for both Parcel A, and Parcel 8 to share a driveway accessing County Road 10.
Chaiman; Kroskin asked petitioner if it would be desirable to have Parcel B access
through Parcel A. Petitioner responded that his intention was not to sell the parcel,
his main purpose was to build another home for the use of his family. City Subdivision
Regulations require that only one house be on one 'lot, therefore, he was requesting the
lot division..
Commissioner Schneider asked petitioner if iic: would be willing to remove the old
house after the new one was built. Petitioner stated that he would prefer not to
raze the old home.
Commissioner Threinen stated that he felt the lot had potential for divisions beyond
that proposed by the present owner on the 3,5 parcel. If divided as proposed,
the future owner of Parcel B, the mithorly pm: , wos.-ld have no guarantee of proper
access to County Road 1O.
Petitioner stated he had no intention of sellingeither parcel of land or of dividing
the acreage further in 'the future.
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The Commission discussed: the V ft right-of-way necessa: y for CountyRoad "1: ,
Petitioner stated he did not feel it would be necessary at this time. Further, he
indicated he had extensively landscapedthe area and would object to removal of
this landscape treatment. Staff explained the procedure for right-of-way tacking on
major thoroughfares to petitioner indicating it was standard procedure,;
Commissioner Threin.en stated he would not favor a division whereby the southerly
parcel would access County Road 10 or Jonquil Lane by crossing the northerly parcel
via easement. Chairman Kroskin concurred.
Mr.. Bill Soth, peti'tioner's attorney, reiterated petitioner's point of view and regjest
suggesting various methods of an agreement such as City approval prior to either parcel
being sola.
Commissioner Threine: painted out that the City would be creating, in effect, a land-
locked parcel. This is against the City's Goals, Objectives and Criteria.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Schneider that the
Planning; Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council;
That the request of J. Brooks Hauser for division of his property located at
the southeast corner of County Road 10 and Jonquil Lane be approved subject to
the following conditions:
1. The northwest property line of Parcel B be adjusted to allow future direct
access to Jonquil Lane for said Parcel B.
2. The dedication of 27' ft. of additional right-of-way along County Road 10.
3. A Park Dedication Fee of $150 for Parcel B.
4, No building permit to be issued unless the house is connected to public
sewer and water.
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5. Sewer, water and storm drainage easements as required by the City Engineer.
Commissioner Threinen started that he felt this would aid in avoiding any pieco-meal
planning for the parcel,
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All' in favor) MOTION CARRIED
A-682 Johnson/Yngve A-682 Site Plan
Stare presented petitioner's request for site plan approval of two industrial ware-
houses located at the southwest corner of Nathan Lane and 10th Avenue North. Staff
explained the parking si'Uaw on for the site, noting the space reserved for future
parking as well as the two methods for calculating the necessary number of parking
spaces. Also, it was pointed out that Bassett Creek Watershed Commission would be
forwarding their comments on the proposal in the near future,
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Commissioner Hagen questioned the status of loth Avenue North.
Commissioner Schneider stated that he did not feel the landscaping proposed was
adequate. Petitioner stated that it was his intent to further landscape the building
and that the landscape plan before the Commission was merely a preliminary showing.
Staff stated that it would be necessary to obtain the approval of the Director of
Planning and Community Development of the new landscaping plan prior to building permitissuance,
MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Threinen that the
Planning Commissionmakethe following recommendation o the City Council:
That the request of Johnson/Yngve for site plan approval
of two industrial
buildings located at the southwest corner of Nathan Lane and 10th Avenue. North
be approved subject to the following conditions
I. No outdoor storage ;of waste, materials or garbage,
2. Posting of a 150%, 18 -month landscape and drainage bond prior to issuance
of building permits
3. Petitioner pay a Park Dedication flee of $9,800 based on $500/acre X 19.76
acres
4. Engineering recommendations of the City Engineer be incorporated as per
Staff memorandum of September 14, 1976.
5: Recommendations of the DNR and Bassett Creek Flood Control Commission be a
part of this recommendation.
6 Provision for three fire hydrants and fire lanes as per Fire Chief recom-
mendations,
7. An area be reserved for parking 349 additional cars on the site to be
blacktopped at the time of the need for the spaces.
8:. Additional right-of-way along Nathan Lane, i.e. 32.5 ft. Developer to
petition the City for public improvements along Nathan Lane kind 10th Avenue
North.
9. More detailed landscaping plan be submitted to the Director of Planning
and Community Development for approval prior to building permit issuance.
MOTION TO AMEND was made by Commissioner Davenport supported by Commissioner Schneider
that the Planning Commission add the following as condition #10: ,"No sign variances
be permitted",
MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION TO MEND CARRIED
MOTION TO AMEND was made. by Commissioner EriLkson supported by Chairman Krc;skin that
the Commission add the following as condition ##11: "Parking setback along 10th AvenueNorthbe50ft.".
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Commissioner Threinen pointed out that ;his would eliminate at leant 75 parking spaces
if the setback would be changed to 50 ft. on the 10th Avenue North side of tile site.
MOTION TO AMEND FAILEIN (2-1-3) (Chairman Kroskin, Commissioners Hagen and Threinen
against; Commissioner Davenport abstained)
MOTION TO WEND FAILED
Voting then -took place on the main m c.on as amerded.
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MOTION CARRIED(5-1-2) (Commissioners ricksDn and Schneider againstCom-
missioner Davenport abstained)
MOTION CARRIED
Commissioners Erickson and Schneider stated that taey felt the 50 ft, parking setback
should be maintained.
A-683 bietram Properties A-683 Site Plan
Staffpresented petitioner's request for site plan approval of a shopping center to
be located at the southwest corner of County Road 9 and County Road 18 and also
explained the lengthy history of the site. A recommendation for approval was proposed
by Staff subaect to the conditions of the Staff report of September 16, 1916.
Commissioner Threinen asked petitioner what intentions he had for the two "future
sites" Mr. R. L. Pape, architect for petitioner, stated there prC-iently were no
plans for the "future sites",
Commissioner Erickson asked petitioner what hardship he felt was present in that he
requested a variance to the parking setback on the east. Petitioner stated that he
felt the parking requirements of the City were too strict as far as number of spaces
required -,therefore, to meet the City's requirements, petitioner felt it was necessary
to request a variance in this location.
Mr. Pope cited studies done by several firms such as Dayton --Hudson whereb„v lesser
numbers of ;narking spaces per gross retail space were considered necessary for shopping
cent,:rs of various sizes
Commissioner Hagen stated' that he felt the futur, sives should be incorporated into
the present site as para of the building structure ff structures were to be built or
become part of the parking lot if more parking spaces are deemed necessary. Commissioner
Threinen concurred.
Mr. Toni Berg, president of the Middle East Homeowners Association, stated that the
Kimeowners had several concerns with the proposed plan; 1} traffic from the center
that may come into the residential neighborhood; 2) lightitig and signage for the center,
3) noise produced by the center; 4) landscaping for buffering purposes, including
within the parking lot; and 5) drainage from the low lying land onwhich the center
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is to .be located,
Mr. V. A itO.Menson, 4040 Pilgrim Lane, stated that he was pre->ently adjoining thesog_t__11'i'jture site" and would ask that as much buffering via landscaping aspossible1 v° ne in that area,
Mr. Loren Pac-, 4050 Nathax" Lane, stated that he felt no amount of landscaping would
be sufficient to buffer the site from the surrounding residents since the site was
at such a lower elevation than the surrounding residential neighborhood'.
Mr. John Wire,. 4130 Quaker Lane, stated that he felt the traffic on the south side
of Lancaster Lane should be buffe ;A by landscaping from the residential neighborhood.
Proposed plant, indicated buffering only on the north side of Lancaster Lane.
Commissioner Hagen pointed out that there was inadequate space available for land-
scaping to survive o,7 the south side of Lancaster Lane.
MOTION TO DEFER was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Hagen
until such time as the following concerns could be addressed.: 1) Use of the "future
sites""; 2) soil conditions are checked for parking lots 3) sinage be addressed
4) the seven conditions of the Staff report of September 16, 1976 be addressed, i..e.
1. Inorporation of the "future sites depicted into the: shopping center design
to overcome most of the parting deficiency.
2. Treatment of the strip between Lancaster Lane: and County Road 9 to include
a berm constructed to the maximum height feasible.
3 Petitioner reconstruct a median on Lancaster Lane at thep Proagednorth
entrance to the proje:t to provide a median cut and a left turn "lane of
a design acceptable t.T 0, City Engineer.
4., Petitoiner submit specific plans for the proposed pylon sign for Planning
CommissionCommission approval prior to building permit issuance,
5. F=acilities for fire protection be incorporated consistent with Code..
6 No outside storage of waste, materials or containers,
7. Provisions for property exchange with the City, Lancaster Lane improvements,
any required storm water holding pond improvements, utility and park
dedication fees be incorporated in a Development Contract between the City
and the project owner.
MOTION TO DEFER CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION TO DEFER CARRIED
A=208 CeRurign_ComCompany A-208 Conditional Use permit
Staff presented petitioner's request for a conditional use permit oto operate a storage
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facility within one of the bays of a commercial building located at 1123 VicksburgLane. Staff recommended approval subject to the conditions as listed in the Staff
report of September 17, 1976,
Mr, Jinn Hawks, representing petitioner, Centurion Company, stated that three; or four
vehicles would be requested to be stored on the site as a function, of the operation,.
Storage would consist of cabinets, furniture for model homes accessory to the: Centurion
development of patio homes on the site,, etc. on the inside of the building.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Schneider,. supported by Commissioner Threinen that
the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council;
That the request of Centurion Company for a conditional use permit to operate
a storage facility within one of the bays of a commercial building located at
1123 Vicksburg Lane be approved subject to the folloiwng conditions
1. iso outside ovew-night storage of vehicles.
2. No signs other than presently constructed and in place.
S. Permit be for one year,
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favoi-) MOTION' CARRIED
A-208 Centurion Company A-208 Conditional Use Permit
Staff presented petitioner's request for a conditional use permit to operate a
moving and storage business at 1121 Vicksburg Lane, to be run by Lake Moving and
Storage, Inc. Staff recommended approval subject to the conditions as listed in
the Staff report of September 15, 1976.
MOTION was made by Ccmmissionor Erickson supported by Commissioner Davenport that
the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council':
That the: request of Centurion Company on behalf of Lake Moving and Storage,
Inc. for a conditional use permit to operate a moving and storage lousiness at
1121 'Vicksburg Lane be approved. subject to the; following conditions.
1. No outside overnight storage of vehicles-.
Z. Pio signs other than presently constructed and in place.
MOTION TO AMEND was made by Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Thrienen
that the Planning Commission add the following as condition ##3; "Permit to be for
one year."
MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED (6-0-0) (Ali in favor) MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED
Voting then took plaice on the main motion as amended.
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MOTION CARRIED (6•-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
Mr. Dim Hawks, representing Centuiron Comapny, stated that he found it unusual that
there were no provisions within the: City for outside storage of vehicles. Staff
pointed out that the provisions for outside stoarge of anything in the City was that
this storage area be screened.
A-374 Greenwood Baptist Church A-374 Conditional Cosy Permit
Renewal
Staff presented petitioner's request for renewal of a conditional use permit to
operate a day care center. A recommendation for approval was proposed by Staff sub-
ject to the conditions as listed in the Staff report of September 16, 1976.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Erickson supported by Commissioner Threinen that
the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council:
That; the request of Greenwood Baptist Church for renewal of a conditional use
permit to operate a day care center at the church be granted subject to the follow-
ing conditions
1. All applicable fire codes be complied with.
2. Conditional on the approval and/or certificaticr of petitionar's operation
by any, appropriate State and/or County ag,encie.
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
A-473 Ramal Stationery A-4 3 Site Plan
Staff presented petitioner's request for site plan approval of a building addition
to their prevent facility located at the northwest corner of Highway 55 and County
Road 6. A recommendation for approval was proposed by Staff subject to the conditions
as listed in the Staff report of September 16, 1976.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Erickson that the
Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City CouNcil
That the request of Royal Stationery for site plan appr)val of a building addi-
tion dditiopttotheirpresentfaci1itylocatedatthenorthwestcornerofHighway55
and County Road 6 and dated September 13, 1976: be approved subject to the followinc
conditions
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I. No outdoor storage of waste, materials or garbage:
2. Posting of a 150%, 18 -month landscaping/blacktopping performance bond
w"th the City prior to building permit issuance,
3: Recommendations of the City Fire Chief be incorporated relative to `fire
hydrants and fire lanes, i.e. two additional fire hydrants_.
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTIONCARRIED
MINUTES OF PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF AUGUST 25, 1976
MOTION was made by Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Davenport that
the: minutes of the Planning Commission meeting of August 2S, 1976 be approved as
written
MOTION CARRIED (2-0-3) (Chairman Kroskin, Commissioners Hagen and Threinen
abstained)
MOTION :'ARRI ED
MINUTES OF PLANNING COMMISSION ME.E'rING OF SEPTEMBER 8, 1976
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Schneider that
the minutes of the Planning Commission meeting of September 8, 1976 be approved as
written.,
MOTION CARRIED' (4-0--2) (Chairman Kroskin Commissioner Hagen abstained)
MOTION CARRIED
MOTION TO ADJOURN was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Davenport.
Chairman Kroskin adjourned the meeting at 11:30 p.m.
APPROVED BY PLANNING COMMISSION October 13, 1976
Reg Kro ,kin, Chairman
Plymouth Planning Commission
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