HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 06-16-1976PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY OF PLYMOUTH, MINNESOT
June 16, 1976
A regular meeting of the Plymouth Planning Commission was called to order by ChairmanKros,in at 7:30 pm. in the Council Chambers of the. Public Works: Building, 14900 -23rdAvei)nwe 'North.
ME RS PRESENT: Chairman Kroskin, Commissioners Davenport, Erickson, Hagen,
Schneider and Threinen
MEMBERS ABSENT: Commissioner Stewart (MTC Meeting)
STAFF PRESENT: Charles Dillerud, Milt Dale, Randy Thoreson and Kate Marx
A:976 Ply -mouth Hills Company A-676 Preliminary Plat, General
Development Plan and
Rezoning
Staff explained petitioner's request for preliminary plat, General Development Plan
and Rezoning approval of the "Plymouth Hills" plat located at the northeast corner of
Vicksburg Lane and Highway 55. The plat was proposed as a combination of high density
residential and commercial development to complement the: City's Downtown Plymouth con-
cept.
Staff reviewed the request in terms of the Land Use Guide Plan and the conformance
of the plan thereto. Petitioner was also proposing that the contemplated "Community
fi Shopping Center" of the Land Use Guide Plan be placed within the "Plymouth ;lulls"
plat. It was noted that the LA -2 Guide Plan density would, effectively be replaced
with the Community Shopping Center guiding if approved.
Commissioner Threinen asked if the transition zone between the south and north sides.
of County Road 9 would be affected by this reduction in the amount of LA -2.. Staff
stated that the transition as proposed would be from LA --3 on th.e south side of CountyRoad9toLA -1 on thea north side of County Road 9.
Mr. Frank Lam, Plymouth Hills Company,, explained the request from the petitioner's
point of v1ew as to why this requesv was now before the Commission and the reasoningforinclusionofthevariousaspectsoftheplat,
Commissioner Threinen asked when the first store would open. Mr. Larson responded that
it would probably be Spring of 1978 with the Service Center being the first area to he
build, Commissioner Threinen asked if the rest of the time table had been established.
Mr. Larson responded that it had not.
The Commission reviewed in detail with the petitioner the number offinancial 'institu-
tions proposec for the plat, Also discussed at length was the economics of such a
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development and such a shopping mixture, i.e, both service and speciality shoppinginonearealikethatproposed,
Commissioner Threinen asked petitioner to explain: the reasoning for the requested
high density residential guiding requested,. Mr. Can Fazendin, Plymouth Hills Co.,
stated that the proposed density would be between 12 and 14 units per acre. Mr.
Fazendin reviewed the chart from the Staff report of June 11, 1976 with respect to
densities proposed. He indicated that the LA -3 guiding would be 6-7 units per acre
for the pirposes of their proposal while the LA -4 would be 12-14 units per acre.
The only site which may vary from this would be the elderly high-rise proposed for
the plat.
Commissioner Threinen stated that in view of what petitioner was proposing for the
residenti,l densities, an RPUD approach would; probably be the best way to accomplish
such densities over the site, allowing the developer more flexibility in planning
the area.
Chairman Kroskin asked petitioners if they would be the sole developers of the plat.
Petitioners responded that they would probably do most of the residential development
as they had more knowledge in this area, whereas someone else would probably do the
development of the commercial property. As the property would be sold, however, the
Plymouth Hills Co. would initiate convenants in order to control a unified effort for
the entire plat.
The Conxnissioners discussed the traffic routing with the petitioners. Commissioner
Hagen asked petitioners if the proposed ;platted roads, with particular reference to
the 35th Avenue North and Niagara intersection, were the best design for the traffic
in view of the type of uses to he developed in the area,, Mr. Dick Knutson, McCombs
Knutson., petitioner's engineer, stated that he felt the design would be best as
presently proposed and explained his reasoning for designing the aoad system as he did,:
Commissioner Hagen pointed out that the only access north to County Road 9 would be
via Fernbrook or Dunkirk if the roads remained as proposed so that the maintenance
of 35th Avar:le North between Fernbrook and Dunkirk as a free flowing thoroughfare
would be it rtant. The present Plymouth Hills plan would not provide this free flow.;
Chairman Kroskin opened the public hearing to members of the audience;
Mr. Lars Lodoen,. 3.451. Idaho, stated that he owned property north of County Road 9
and wanted to know why his property could not also be used for commercial or high
density residential purposes. Chairman Kroskin explained the Land Use Guide Plan
to Mr, Lodoen indicating that his property was guided for low density residential
development
Mr. Steven Vo_ t, 16220 County Road 9, also asked why his property could not be
developer o a higher use. Chairman Kroskin also explained the Land Use Guide Plan
to, Mr. Voight as to its affect on his property.
Mr. Delos Taylor, Playhouse Toys, Inc., stated that he likedthe plan as proposed and
was curious as to the time 'table for beginning of the development. Mr. Frank Larson
explained that the only date set was the 1978 opening of the retail area near Highway 55.
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Mr. James_ Guddal, 4465 Vicksburg Lane, a member of the Plymouth Park Commission,
commended the petitioners on the trail at the north end of the plat. He stated that
he felt it matched well the plans of the Park Commission with respect to trails for
the area.
MOTION was Stade by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Davenport that
the Planning ConCAssion take action on this issue at this meeting.
MOTION 'CARRIED (6-0-0)(All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Kroskin declared a five-minute recess at 9:00 p.m.
Chairman Kroskin reconvened the meeting at 9.05 p.m.
Commissioner Threinen asked Staff how the trail would be designed to cross the road
at the north end of the plat, Staff responded that the water from the creek along
with the trail would probably be r(iuted under a bridge,
Commissioner Threinen also asked about the future use of Outlot A. Petitioner
responded that Outlot A would be added to the adjoining property owners' land as
opposed to remaining as a remnant parcel.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Threinen that the
Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council;
That the request of Plymouth Hills co, for approval of the preliminary General
Development Plan concept for the plat known as "Plymouth Hills" be approved sub-
ject to the following Guide Plan designations for the proposed plat:
Lot 1, Block l LA -2 Lot 1, Block 5 CC
Lot 1, Block 2 LA -4 Lot 1, Block 6 CL
Lot 1, Black 3 CL Lot 1, Block 7 LA -2
Lot 2, Black 3 CL Lot 2, Block 7 LA -3
Lot 3, Block 3 CL Lot 1, Block 8 LA -4
Lot 4, Block 3 CL Lot 2, Block 8 LA -4
Lot 5, Block 3 CL Lot 3, Block 8 CC
Lot 1, Block 4 CL
FURTHER, that all LA (Living Areas) be developed as a combined Residential
Planned Unit Development,
MOTION TO AMEND was made by Commissioner Threinen suloorted by Commissioner Schneider
to add the following: "FURTHER, that the developer b,, given the following directions
to be fulfilled prior to any further approval of their proposal: 1) a time table
for development be drawn for Planning Commission and Counril review; and, 2) A market
analysis be prepared as per the criteria listed for a Cont unity Shopping Center in
Resolution #73-330 indicating the supporting da -
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a for location of the Community Shop-
ping Center
hop_
pingCenter at this site and that this market be presented for PlanningCommissionandCouncilreview."
MOTION TO AM74D THE AMENDMENT was made by Commissioner Erickson supported by Commissioner
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Hagen that the following direction to the developer also be added: "3) A traffic
study be conducted: to determine routes and trips from the market area, in and out of
the market area as it relates to the total of Plymouth including accessing and turning
movements.,,
MOTION TO AMEND THE AMENDMENT CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor)
MOTION TO AMEND THE AMENDMENT CARRIED
The Commission then voted on tyre amendment to the amendment of the main motion.
MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED
The Comriission then voted on the main motion as amended,
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
The Commission then, considered actions on the preliminary plat and rezoning requests
of the petitioner;
MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Threinen that the
rezoning proposed for the "Plymouth Hills" plat be continued until such time as the
directions to the developer, i.e.. time table, market analysis and traffic study,
are complete and presented for Planning Commission and Council review.
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
MOTION was made by Commissioner Davenport supported by Commissioner Hagen that the
preliminary plat consider,, won of the proposed "Plymouth Hills" plat be continued
until such time as the directions to the developer, i.e. time table, market analysis
and traffic study, are complete and presented for Planning Commission and Council
review.
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
A-277 Lorraine Beam A-277 Conditional Use, Permit
Staff explained petitioner's request for a conditional use permit renewal to operate
a home dug grooming service at her residence, 11624 Highway 55. Staff recommended
approval based on the condition as stated in the June 11, ")76 Staff report,
MOTION was made by Commissioner Erickson supported by Commissioner Threinen that the
Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the. City Council -
That the request of Lorraine H. Beam for a conditional use permit renewal to
operate a dog grooming business at her home at 11624 Highway 55 be approved for
one year subject to the following conditions No advertising signs be allowed
on the property.
MOTION CARRIED (6-0.0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
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A208 Carisch T eatres A--2O8 Conditional Use Permit
Staff presented petitioner's request for a conditionaluse permit to operate a camera
and projector equipment repair shop for his own theatre equipment within the Kreatz
Bros. building located at the southwest corner of Vicksburg Lane and 12th Avenue North:,
Staff recommended approval of the request subject to the conditions as listed in the
Staff report of dune 11, 1976.'
Petitioner, Mr. Jerry Carisch, stated that he had 36 area theatres which would be
servicing their cameras and projector equipment at this location. Mr. Carisch owns
all the theatres involved. Therewouldbe no retail sales or outside servicing of
other companies" equipment.
Commissioner Schneider asked what chemicals would be used to clean the machines.
Petitioner stated that gasoline was used.. He further stated that lie would not be
storing more than one or two gallons on the site for such purposes;
MOTION was made by Commissioner Davenport supported by Commissioner Erickson that
the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council
That the conditional use permit request for Carisch Theatres for a camera and
projector equipment repair shop to be located in the Kreatz Bros building
located at the southwest corner of Vicksburg lane and 12th Avenue North be
approved subject to the following conditions:
1. Conditional use permit be for one year.
2.. No signs other than: on the facade of the building as presently constructed.
3 No outside storage of equipment, materials or waste..
MOTION CARRIED (6.0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
A-338 Mission Hills Portion of Mission Trails A-338 Final Plat
Staff presented petitioner's request for final plat of 10 lots within the former
Mission Trails" RPUD. Staff recommended approval subject to the conditions as
listed in the Staff report of June 11, 1976.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Threinen that
the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council;
That the request of Mission Iciest Development for final plat of 10 single familylotsand: three outlots known as "Mission Hills" be approved subject to the
following conditions:
1. Balsam Lane be changed to Arrowood Lane as per City Street Naming Policy.
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2. Engineering recommendations be included as per memorandum from the City
Engineer dated.June 11, 1976.
3. Drive access be prohibited for Lot 1, Block 1 and Lots 1-4, Block 3 onto
Zachary Cane.
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
Commissioner Erickson left the meeting at 10.10 p.m,
A-377 Plymouth Freeway Center A-377
Staff presented petitioner's request for an interpretation of the Land Use Guide
Plan and Zoning Ordinance with respect to a specific use. The land is currently
zoned B-1 (Limited Business) and Guided as CL (Limited Business). The use proposed
would have a distribution center as well as the company's -nationalheadquarters based
in this location at the northwest corner of Highway I-494 and Highway 55.
The Planning Commission reviewed with Mr. Ray Harris, B. W. and Leo Harris Co.,
owners of the property, the proposed use,. It was general consensus that the proposed
use with such a sizable distribution center wou1d be most appropriate in an I-1
Zoning District=
MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Threinen that the
Planning Commission make the following statement to the City Council;
That it is the consensus of this body that the proposed development as explained
in the letter from B. W. and Leo Harris Co., dated June 3, 1976 in total does
not r)mply with the intended uses as expressed in the Guide Plan as it falls
clearly within the "light industrial" classificatiton (x°) use.
MOTION CARRIED (5-0=0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIEC
REPORTS OF OFFICERS, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS
Staff presented the plans for the Capital Improvements Program 1976-1961 as proposed
at this time for Commission review.: It was decided that discussion would continue
at the following meeting as well as recommendations to the Council.
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MINUTES OF THE JUNE 9, 1976 PLANNING COMMISSION. MEETING
MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Schneider that the
minutes of the dune 9, 1976 Planning Commission meeting be approved as written.
MOTION CARRIED 5G -O} (All in flavor) MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Kroskin adjourned the meeting at 11:30 p.m,
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APPROVED BY PLANNING COMMISSION July 7, 1976
Reg Kroskin, Chairman
Plymouth Planning Commission
Charles E. Dillerud, Secretary