HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 04-21-1976PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY OF PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA
April 21 1976
A regular meeting of the Plymouth Planning Commission was called to order by Chairman
Krosxin at 7:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers of the Public Works Building, 14900--
23rd,Avenue North.
KMBER5 PRESENT; Chairman Kroskin, Commissioners Erickson,, Davenport, Schneider
Hagen, Stewart and Threinen
STAFF PRESENT- Charles Dillerud, Milt Dale, Pandy li ason and Kate Marx
OTHERS PRESEN'; Cory Bohl, YAAC Representative
A-338 Mission Trails A-338 Conditional Use Permit
for RPUD, Preliminary Plan,
Preliminary 'Plat and
Rezoning
Chairman 'Kroskin opened the public hearing at 7:30 p.m,
Staff presented petitioner's request for a conditional use permit for an RPUD, preli-
minary Plan, Preliminary plat and rezoning request for "Mission Trails".. Staff
stated that since petitioner had been before the Commission and Council previously with
the Concept Plan, all conditions as requested at that time had been complied with, i.e.
elimination of a panhandle portion of the park., widening of the south portion of Out -
lot E (for the proposed condominiums) and widening of the corridor and lot frontage
connecting the public park area with the southerly east -west street to provide more
privacy to the lots adjoining on the east -west street. Other significant changes to
the request included reduction of the number of single family bots from 99 to 96,
street arrangement changes to accommodate the park changes as recommended at the
Concept Stage, and increase of the usable park area for public neighborhood park use.
Staff recommended Commission approval of the requests for a conditional use permit
for an MID, preliminary plan, preliminary plat and, rezoning for "Mission Trails".
Commissioner Hagen asked where 39th Avenue North on the west within Mission Trails
would match up with 39th Avenue North on the east side of Zachary Lane.. Staff pointed
this out to the Commission.
Commissioner Threinen questioned the new street arrangement stating that this might
be considered a concept change from the previously approved Concept Plan. Mr. Dick
Knutson, engineering consultant for petitioner, explained `the reasoning for the street
arrangement and explained why it was not a change in the Concept Plan as presented
previously.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES -2 April 21, 1976
Commissioner Stewart asked if there was any intention by petitioner to have driveways
from Lot 13, Block 4 or Lot 1, Block 7 accessing to 39th Avenue North. Petitioner,
Mr. Peter Pflaum, Lundgren Bros. Construction_, Inc. stated that they usually 'would notdothissortofthing.
Commissioner Erickson asked if the number of double -fronting lots had remained the
same as with the previous proposal Staff responded that there were now 3 or 4'
more such lots,
In response to a statement by petitioner stating that Lundgren Bros. would not be
constructing the homes on all of the lots, Commissioner Hagen asked petitioner how
the City would be assured of homes in the price ran%a of $45-55,000. Petitioner
responded that the companies were "related" in that principals of the companies`
overlapped
Commissioner Stewart asked petitioner if Outlot E would be developed this year..
Pair. Pflaum responded that it would not.
The Commission discussed the setbacks, particularly side yard setbacks, proposed
for the development.. Petitioner was requesting 7.5 ft. side yard setbacks. The
Commissioners discussed changing this to 5 and 10 ft. setbacks to allow more privacy
on the living side of the homes. Also, 10 ft. side yard setbacks were discussed.
There wero no questions from members of the audience,
Chairman Kroskin closed the public hearing at 8:00 pan
MOTION was made by Commissioner Stewart supported by Commissioner Hagen that the
Planning Commission take action on this item at this meeting
MOTION CARRIED (7-0--0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
A-664 Schmidt Lake West A-664 Preliminary Plat
and Rezoni g
Staff presented p,.titioner's request for rezoning and preliminary plat approval for
28 single family homes on 15 acres to be located at the northwest corner of Larch
Lane wid-47th Avenue North. Staff expressed concern regarding tqo undersized lots
in Block 1, drainage and service problems with the site, and park dedication.
Staff recommended approval of the rezoning and preliminary plat requests subject to.
nine conditions:.
The Commission discussed the deficiencies and problems with the plat as noted by
Staff.
Mr. William Goins, 11904 -45th Avenue No.rtb, asked what the minimum lot size was for
single family hots w tliin the City. Staff responded that the minimum was 18,500
square feet. He further stated that their homes were required to be a minimum of
1,100` square -feet and aske,1 if this would be required of the new proposed develop-
ment.
PLANNING CONV4ISSION MEETING MINUTES 3_ April 21, 1976
Staff stated that tna minimum w&s 1,000 square feet for a one-story home at present.
Mr. Vic Roeterang, David C, Sell Realtors, asked what the lots would be selling for.
The commission referred Mr. Roetering to petitioner.
The Comni_.,M; n discussed with Stiff the setback situation for ;Larch Lane in that a
trail easement would bp required to be dedicated adjacent to Larch Lane. Staff
sug9c.sted that the tra`" 1 eat ement bee placed within the 50 ft. froint yard setback
required for the "lot fro -m the proposed road right-of-way.
Commissioner Threinen started that he didnot feel the Commission cGold consider the
plat as presented because there were mechanical problems with too many of the lots
as presented.
Chairman Kroskin closed the oublic hearing at 8:20 p.m.
MOTION was made by Commissioner supportedHagenorted b Commissioner Erickson that the9_ pP Y
Planning Commission take action on this item at this meeting,,
MOTION CARRIED' (`6-1-0) (Commissioner Threinen against) MOTION CARRIED
A-562 Addicks Machine Co., Inc. A-662 Rezoning and Conditional
Use Permit
Staff presented petitioner's request for a conditional use permit for manufacture
and assembly of utility buildings and rezoning of property at the southwest corner
of County Road.18 and 55th Avenue North. Staff recommended approval of the requests
subject to several conditions as listed in the Staff report of April 16, 1976.
Mr. Addicks spoke to the conditions as presented in the Staff report. He indicated
thatle would not be able to complete all of the improvements to the property as
recoimended by Staff. lie stated. that he would be willing to as much as possible,
approximately two-thirds of the work, this year.
Commissioner Stewart asked the leasees, Fred and Dave Storest, if they intended
to store the buildings outside. They responded that this was their intention.
Storage woulL take place in the area marked "truck area" on the proposed plan.
They would potentially use the shed already on the property for storage of raw,
materials.
There were: ono questions asked by members of the audien;.e.
Chairman Kroskin closed the public hearing at 8:45 p.m
MOTION was made by Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Stewart that the
Planning Commission take action on this item t this meeting,
MOTION CARRIED (7-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
KANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES -4 April 21, 1,976
P 4 City of Pl mout ° A=_94 Preliminary Plat and
Rezoning
The request before the Planning Commission by the City of Plymouth was for a "dawn -- town Plymouth concept" known as "Plymouth Center" to include City Hall, a branch
of the Hennepin; County Library, Plymouth Post Office, various recreational areasincludingCentralParkandfacilitiessuchasanicearena, and services incidentaltoB-1 (L infted Business), B-2 (Shopping Center Business) and B-3 (Service Business) within its total acreage..
Planner Dil.lerud, representing the City, introduced several slides indicating siteresourcesandananalysisofthesiteforbuildabilitylocations. He further explained
the uses proposed and their relationships, as well as going into detail with respecttothemajorthoroughfarealignmentthroughouttheplat. I
Commissioner Threinen had several questions with respect to the "Development Concept
map as attached to the Staff report of April 16, 1976. He asked Planner Dillerud
if the school was actually planned for the area in the northwest corner of the map. Planner Dilierud responded that it was not,
Commissioner Threinen also asked about the LA -2 area at the northwest corner of the
map and located south of County Road 9 as to its consistency with the ComprehensiveLandUseGuidePlan; he stated that it was difficult to tell from the map as presented.
With respect to the park, Commissioner Threinen stated that he could see only oneaccasstoit, i.e. 34th Avenue North on the south. He stated that he did not feel
this was appropriate, since the park was proposed for both active and passive use
With respect to the traffic circulation, in particular as it affected the Cavanaugh
addition, Commissioner Threinen asked if the proposal had been studied by all parties. Planner Dillerud stated that it had been.,
Planner Dillerud stated that the intet of the petition was not to present the entire
area presented in the "Development Ooncopt" map for consideration, rather only thatlandonwhichtheCitywasproposingrezoningatthistime. The "Development Concept"" map was presented for a perspective with the surrounding area.
Mr. Keith Gaspard, 3315 Lanewood Lane, stated that he did not feel this particular
58 acres was the best area to locate a city hall. Planner Dillerud explained thatthesitehadbeenchosenformanyreasons, including its central location with respecttotherestoftheCityaswellashistoricalreasons. Also, the park land for
Central Park was chosen for the amenities it offered as a park for the entire City.
Mr. Paul Kamman, 3220Minnesota Lane, stated that earlier plans had shown 34th AvenueNorthfurthertothenorthHestatedthathecouldnotseethe 'logic in movingitfurthersouthsoclosetotheCavanaughAddition. Planner Dillerud explained that,
the reason for this was to avoid splitting the park with such a high volume road.
Mr. Rick Raphael, 3320 Niagara lane, stated that he was against the entire proposal..
He stated that he did not feel it was fair to close off the Cavanaugh Addition withthreeheavilytravelledroads.. He stated that he did not approve of the location
of any of the three major roads proposed. Mr. Raphael added that this would devaluehisproperty,
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES -5- April 21, 1976
Ms. Janet Muehleisen, 15125 -32nd Avenue North, questioned the tieing of the develop-
ment. Planner t)illerud stated that the beginning of the project would depend upon
the U. S. Post Office and how quickly they would want to begin building of their
new office within the City. He further stated that the park would begin development
immediately upon approval. City hall would be approximatelytwo years in the future
for development. As to the private developers of the other business areas, Planner
Dillerud stated that he could not speak for them as to timing,.
Mr. Jack Doran, 3225 Niagara Lane, stated that he felt there ought to be a good deal
more study as to how the development would affect the Cavanaugh Addition from traffic,
use and valuation of property points of view. He stated that he felt the proposal
was too close to the Cavanaugh Addition and that more consideration ought to he given
to the homeuwners of this area.
Mr. Harol Hanson, 3325 Minnesota Lane, stated that if it was such a bad idea to
divide the park by a road then the road dividing the park from the residents of
the Cavanaugh Addition was equally as bad, It would be separating the Cavanaugh
residents from the use of the park.
Mr, Raphael, 3320 Niagara Lane, asked if this Man had received the approval of the
Minnesota Land Use Advisory Board. The Commission and Planner Dillerud stated that
they were unaware of such a body. He further asked what the recourse of the citizens:
would be if the Planning Commission apprrked the plan. Planner Dillerud stated that
the final decision was made by the elected officials of the City, the City Council.
Mr. Frank Larson, representing Plymouth Hills Company, 30' Old Orchard Lane, stated
that the alignment of Niagara 'Lane as proposed did not allow fo- the type of business
center development they had in mnd,. rather it created a rather unusable piece of
land as now aligned. The proposal of his company was to have it swing farther and more
sharply to the norti7,
Mr, , Kamman, 3320 Minnesota Lane, asked if an Environmental Impact Statement had been
done on this project. Planner Dillerud stated that it had not been required.
Chairman Kroskin closed the public hearing at 10:10 p.m.
Commissioner Davenport asked for ;Planner Dillerud's comments with respect to the
Plymouth Hills proposal for the alignment of Niagara Lane. Planner Dillerud stated
that this presented more serious slope prohlems as well as placing the alignment within
a tree line,
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Hagen that the
Manning Commission take action on this item at this meeting.
MOTION CARRIED (7-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Kroskin declared a recess at 10:10 p.m.
Chairman Kroskin left the meeting at 10.15' p.m,
Acting Chairman Hagen called -the meeting back to order at 10:15 p.m.
PLANNING COMMISSIONMEETING MINUTES -6- April 21, 1976
A-338 Mission Trails AA -83$ Conditional Use Permit
for RPUD, Preliminary
Plan, Preliminary. Plat
and Rezoning
MOTION was made by Commissioner Erickson supported by Commissioner°Threinen that
the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council;
That the request of Lundgren Bvos. Construction Inc. for rezoning from R -O
Open Residential) to R-1 (Single Family Residential) be approved for the
51 acre plat known as "Mission Trials". Further, that approval be granted for
a conditional use permit for a preliminary plan and preliminary plat for "Mis-
sion Trails" Residential Planned Unit Development subject to the following condi-
tions: onditions
1. Utility and drainage easements provided to the City as per the City Engineer's
recommendation.
Street name changes as per Staff recommendations,
i
3. Street grades and design to City Engineering Department standards.
4That the considerations regarding setbacks and sizes of lots ;be approved as
requested ,with the exception of side yards and that these setbacks and
lot sizes be as follows:
a. f=ront yard setbacts of 30 ft.
b, Side yard setbacks of 10 ft
C. Lot area minimums of 8,000 sq. ft.
d`. Lot width minimums of 75 ft. except for corner lots with 90 ft,
width minimums.,
MOTION TO AMEND was made by Commissioner Stewart supported by Commissioner Davenport
that the following condition be added to read: #5. Resprsive to the Goals, Objectives
and Criteria, Security, Objective 2, Criteria 3, Item 1, elimination of unfavorable
private access; driveways to thoroughfares, that no private drives be allowed to
front, on 39th Avenue North; from Lots 13 Block 4 and Lot 1, v ;;ick 7."
MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED (6.0-0) (All in favor) MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED
The Commission then voted on the main motion as amended..
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
A-664 Schmidt Lake West A-654 Preliminary Plat and
Rezoning
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTE'S -7- April 21, 1976
MOTION TO DEFER was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Stewart
based on the fact that substantial, clharges were needed for the plat to comply with
the City Zoning Ordinance,
MOTION TO DEFER CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION TO DEFER CARRIED
i
A-662 Addicks T-lachine Co., Inc. A--662 Rezoning and Conditional
Use Permit
M)TION was made by Commissioner Thre nen supported by Commissioner Schneider
that the Planning Commission make the following r ecommendati`on to the City Council,
That the request of Addicks Machine ,Co. Inc for rezoning of its property
located at the southwest corner of County Road 18 and 56th Avenue North be
apprGved.
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) ',AOTION CARRIED
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Erickson that
the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council:
That the request of Addicks Machine Co., Inc. for a conditional use permit
for the manufacture and assembly of metal utility buildings be approved subject
to the following conditions:
1. Landscaping of that area to be used for outdoor storage by completely
enclosing such area with adequate screening from County Road 18 and 56th
Avenue North.
2. Reconditioning of the main building painting the exterior.
3„ Hard --surfacing rrf all parking and driveway areas and maintenance of a 50 ft.
front yard setback for parking.
4. Consolidation of Parcel 2064, 2040 and 2962 into one parcel with drainage
and utility easementrx as required by the City Engineer.
MOTION TO AMEND was made by Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Stewart
that the following condition #5 be added to read; "The landscaping include the sodding
of the front of the building as a minimum.
MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED (6-0--0) (All in favor) MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED
MOTION TO AMEND was made by Commissioner Davenport supported by Commissioner Hagen
that 'the following conditions be added to read 46 The existing metal fence be
removed." and Condition #7 to read "That all improvements as per the above conditions
be completed as of June 1, 1977.,"
MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MO ION TO AMEND CARRIED
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES --8- April 21, 1976
MOTION TO AMEND was made by Commissioner Stewart supported by Commissioner Threinen
that the following conditions W8 be added to read, "No signs be allowed in that
petitioner is not requesting any additional signs."
MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED (6-0-9) ("111 infavor) MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED
Chairman Kroskin returned to the meeting.
The main motion as amended was then voted upon.
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-1) (Chairman Kroski n abstained) MOTION CARRIED
A-94Plymouth Center Conceit A-94 Preliminary Plat
and Rezoning
MOTION TO DEFER was made by Commissioner Threi'nen supported by Commissioner Hagen.
until the Planning Commission could schedule a work meeting to discuss the following
considerations with respect to the request;
1.. How the present plan correlates with the Comprehensive Land Use Guide Plan.
2: Consideration of the proposal of the Plymouth Hills people i.e. their request
for a different alignment-,,,f Niagara Lane,
3. Consideration of the Cavanaugh Additioai with respect to placement of
34th Avenue North,
4. Rezoning of more than that area which is bordered by the General Develop-
ment Plan as presented.
Commissioner Threi nen stated .'-hat Cc, , felt it was incumbent upon the City to set
an example for other developers within the City, and, therefore, it would not be
appropriate to treat the City as they would someone else.
Commissioner Hagen asked if it would be necessary to hold a public hearing in order
to realign the proposed corridor of 'Niagara Lane from its position as per the Thorough-
fare Guide Plan. Staff stated that they would check thi's out.
MOTION TO DEFER CARRIED (7-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION TO DEFER CARRIED
A work meeting to discuss this item wps scheduled for April 28, 1976 in the Council
Chambers at 6:4.5 p.m.
C A p KE, Lie Co Rutledge Construction Co. TJ5 6 Site Plan Amendment
Staff presented the request of Rutledge Construction Co, to expand the present
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES -9- April 21, 1976
Kustom Die Co. building located at the southwest corner of Kilmer Lane and 35th
Avenue North.. Staff noted several deficiencies as outlined in itsreport of April 16,
1976. Staff recommended that the Planning Commission deny, defer or approve the
equest with at least ei-ght conditions.
The Commission discussed the plat with the petitioners pointing out possible solu-
tions to the noted deficiencies in Staff's report,
MOTION TO DEFER was made by Commissioner Davenport suported by Commissioner Stewart
until such time as petitioner could present a plan addressing th, deficiencies noted
in Staff's report of April 16, 1976,
MJTION TO DEFER CARRIED (7-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION TO DEFER CARRIED
A-662 Pand G MECOrs A-652Conditional Use Permit
and Lot Division
Staff presented petitioner's request to use the existing car wash facility for its
intended' use, i.e.: washing his own cars which will be up for sale on his used car
lot. Staff recommended approval subject to four conditions;
The Commission discussed the coordination of the: several uses for the lot.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Hagen that the
Planning Commission male the following recommendation to the City Council;
That the request of P and C Motors for a conditional use permit for a private
car wash for P and G Motors be approved subject to the following conditions:
1. No car washing for pay and no advertising of a car wash. The primary
use of this site would be as a used car lot..
2. No dispensing of diesel fuel or gasoline.
3. No additional signs.
4 This permit be reviewed after one year.
FURTHER, the division of the existing parcel into two parcels, Parcel A of
18,000 sq, ft. and Parcel B of 28,000 sq. ft. be approved.
Commissioner Stewart stated that he did not feel there would be any meal s of controlling
such a use. He further stated that he felt the site was overloaded in terms of uses
already,
MOTION TO AMEND was made by Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Davenport
that the following condition be added to read: 11#5 No equipment be added to the site."
MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED (7-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED
PLANCOMMISSION MEETING MINUTES _10- April 21, 197
The >main motidn as :amended was: than voted upon.
MOTION CARRIED (4-3-0) (Chairman Kroskin Commissioners MOTION CARRIED
Davenport and Stewart against)
323 Willow Creek `.A-323 General. Development Plan,
Preliminary Plat and;
Site Plan
Staff presented petitioner's revised request for a general development plan, preliminary
plat and site plan for Willow Creek apartment complex, The proposal as now presented,
dated April 14 1976 by the City, indicated setbacks from the adjacent single family
dwellings ranging from 150 feet on the south to 205 feet at the structure setback area.
The landscaping plan now proposed calls for 8-10 foot berms topped by 4 foot evergreens..
Staff stated that approval of this revised request be subject to seven conditions as
listed in the Staff report of April 17 1976.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Stewart supported by Commissioner Erickson that the
Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council
That the request of Wallace Freeman for site plan and general development
plan be approved subject to the following conditions:
1. No further construction of structures on Lots 1 and 2, Block 1 "Willow
Creek" and.a maximum number of units to be 240.
2. A dedication to the City of $23,186 for Park Dedication Fund:
3. Fire lanes, stalls and fire hydrants as per the City Fire Chief's recommenda-
tions.
4, Landscaping materials as per the submitted landscape plan dated April 14
1976 and hard-surfaced parking lots as per the submitted site plan of
April14, 1976.,(A bond for both items to be held by the City in an amount
equal' to 150% of the improvements required, to be termed for 18 months.)
5x Utility and drainage easements as required by the City Engineer.
6. Proposed Nathan Lane to be constructed to City standards as per City Engineer-
ing Department recommendations_.,
7. No outside storage of waste and garbage.
MOTION CARRIED (7-0-0) (All in favor)' ° OTION CARRIELi`
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen:supported by Commissioner Stewart that the
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES -11- April21, 1976
Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council:
That the request of Wallace. Freeman for preliminary plat be approved subject to
the denying of access of new Nathan Lane to the Highway 55 service drive until it
is improved or eliminated except foremergency vehicles.
MOTION CARRIED (7-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION; CARRIED
MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF APRIL 7, 1976
Commissioner Erickson stated that on page 2 within the Dorothy Follese discussion
A-634), his comment should have read as follows, ". . questioned the appropriate-
ness of having access to this plat via a service drive from a neighboring plat."
MOTION was made by Commissioner Erickson supported by Commissioner Threinen that the
minutes of the meeting of April 7, 1976 be approved as corrected.
MOTION CARRIED (6-0-1) (Commissioner Hagen abstained) MOTION CARRIED
MOTION TO ADJOURN was made by Commissioner Stewart supported by Commissioner Threine.n,
Chairman Kroskin adjourned the meeting at 12;20 p.m.
APPROVED S`;`PLANNING COMMISSION May 5, 1,976
Reg Kroskin, Chairman
Plymouth Planning Commission
Cha,1es E. D7llerud, Secretary