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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 06-18-1975PLANNING COMMISSION CITY OF PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA June 18, 1975 A regular meeting of the Plymouth Planning Commission was called to order by Chairman Kroskin at 7.30 p.m. in the Council Chambers of the Public Forks Building, 24900 --23rd Avenue ,North. MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Kroskin, Commissioners Schneider, Davenport, Erickson, Hagen and. Threinen MEMBERS ABSENT: Commissioner Stewart AFF PRESENT: Charles E. Dillerud, Milt Dale, and Xate Marx OTHERS PRESENT: Tom Ountley and Connie Genung, YAAC representatives A1621 World Carpets, Inc. Rauenhorst Corp. A-621 Sine Plan Approval Staff presented petitioner's request for site plan approval for a warehouse/ office building located at the northeast corner of Niagara Lane and 21st Avenue North, Staff recor;mended approval subject to the six conditions listed in the Staff repot; of June 10, 1975. Petitioner has agreed to make the changes necessary as per the Staff report., Commissioner Threinen asked petitioner if any retail sales would be run from this site Pat Dady, Rauenh.orst representative, stated that there would be no retai sI- a es rom this operation, Commissioner Threinen further questioned petitioner as to whether there were any plans for the property directly to the. north of the proposed site, that property also belonging to World Carpets. Petitioner responded that the plans were to divide the whole parcel into two sites The prevent site will consist of 2.4 acres while the property to the north would be a, 'Site of 2.1 acres. - It was pointed out that this land had been guided 1-1 before the 1968 Zoning Ordinance went into effect. Cotunisssorer Threinen asked petitioner if the access on to 21st Avenue North would be acceptable or if petitioner would prefer access. on to Niagara. Petitioner responded that the .Niagara entrances would be prefered because, t it is the main road to the site and 2) it seems better suited for truck maneuvering. Petitioner further- commented on the: conditio1 with respect :to the fire safety. He stated that World Carpets will be providing more than 12 feet clear around the building. With respect to hydrants, presently there are three hydrants either on or near the property. Also, the building will be pro- vided with three levels ,of sprinkler systems, and four hose racks, PLANNING C014MISS ON MEETING MINUTES June 18, 1975 Petitioner questioned whether the Eire Chief was aware of these sprinkler systems, hose racks and already existing hydrants when he made his recommenda- tions about the site, Staff comtavnted that this data was not available to them or the Eire Chief at the time of their review. It was recommended that the representatives from World Carpets contact the Fire Chief for a revised recommendation on the fire safety of the site, Petitioner added that the building is designed for storage primarily so j that if a fire would erupts it would damage property, not people, The owner 'is satisfied with the present fire safety precautions as is the owner's insurance cowpany. Corknissioner Threinen requested that petitioners draw in on the site plan as pres?nted, the lot split to be effected cn their property. He stated that he felt the Council ought to be aware of the lot division so they would not be acting ,under any illusion that the treed area to the North will remain that way. MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Schneider that the. planning Commission make the following recommendation to the CityCouncil That the request of World Carpets for Site Plan approval at the northeast corner of Niagara Lane and 21st Avenue North be approved subject to the following conditions: 1. No drive access to Niagara Lane 2. No setback variances for the building be allowed. 3. Recommendations of the City Engineer be made a part of this recommendation as to utilities easements and sizing and drainage. 4. Recommendations of the l=ire Chief be made a p -,-,rt of this recommendation. 5, Posting of a landscape and drainage bond' to the City prior to issuance of a building permit. 5 Recommendation of the Park and Recreation ,Advisory Committee be made a part of this recommendation, i.e. $2,250 (4.5 acres X $500). MOTION to amend was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Davenport to add the following two conditions; 7. No parking be allowed in the required setbacks. Proposed lot division lines and access; to 21st Avenue North be shown on the plan for information to the City Council. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES -3--- dune 1.8, 1975 MOTIONTO AMEND CARRIED (6-0-•0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED The rain motion, as amended, was then. voted upon. 140TION CARRIEG (6-0.0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED 518 Ryder Truck Rena , Inc. A-638 CUP to Operate Truck Rental Business Staff presented petitioners' request to rent straight axle trucks from the Texaco station at the corner of Annapolis Lane and State Highway 55. Parking of the rental vehicles would be along the existing building's west side. Petitioner -would be parking only 2 trucks at one time on the site, Total inventory would not exceed five trucks. Staff recomiended approval of the request subject to the conditions as listed in the Staff report. Commissioner Threi;nen asked petitioner how the operation could Expand if they would be limited to the four parking spaces on the site, Nor. Bob Ki-ewatt, Dealer Manager for Ryder Truck Rental Inc., stated thaw whbusiness of this sort expands, it means more trucks would be on the road, not that more trucks would be parked on the site. Chairman Kroskin questioned whether such truck rental could. be considered an accessory use to a gas station, Staff stated that: in its opinion, it was an accessory use,. MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner 5rickscn that the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council: That the request of Ryder Truck Rental, Inc.. for a CUP to operate a truck, rental business from the Texaco Station at the NE corner of Annapolis Lane and State Highway 55 be granted subject to the following conditions., 1. No parking of rental vehicles closer than 15 feet to the property line. 2, No signs be permitted S,. No more than 4 rental trucksbe parked on the site at one time. 4. Rental tracks only .and no rental trailers Commissioner Erickson asked if it would be proper to limit this type of CUP to a one year period with option for renewal'. Staff responded that it wool d, MOTION to amend was made by Commissioner Erickson supported by Commissioner Schneider that the following condition be added 5 Permit be granted for one year and subject to renewal. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES -4- June 18, 1975 MOTION TO AMEND CARRIED (6-0-0) (All In favor) MOTION CARRIED The main motion, as amended, was then voted upon, MOTION CARRIED (5-1-0) (Chairman Kroskin against) MOTION CARRIED A-114 "The P ace Apartment` omp ex -1 CUP to Operate a Montessori Day Care School Staff presented petitioners' request to operate a Montessori Day Care School in the ground floor of this apartment complex by converting two apartment units in the building's east section over to this use. A rearrangement of walls would be accomplished to facilitate the proposed classrooms and other use areas. The play area would be fenced and located approximately 30 feet from the building's outside door. Staff had carefully reviewed the request of the petitioners with 'respect to day care centers and the past problems which seems to the "Where do the students come from'?". The City Ordinance states that day care centers are required to have their enrollment come from the apartment complex.. As a result of this, Staff recommended approval subject to several conditions, one of which was that no more than 50Z of tht users come from outside the apartment complex Commissioner Threinen poi};ted out that Landtech Management Corporation had been before the Coniiission approximately one month ago with a serious parking problem. If the Montessori Davy Care School has proposed that a portion of their enrollment would corse from outside the apartment complex this type of situation would only add to the present parking problem and/or diminish all, the good affects of the expansion of the parking lot. Commissioner Threi nen asked petitioners if there were safety islands or cross walks in the parking lot at this time. Petitioners responded than the children would not be crossing the parking lot, rather the parking spaces to :be reserved for the Center would be tangent to the sidewalk. It was pointed out., also, that these petitioners had been before the Planning Commission previously with a proposal for a Montessori Day Care School to be run in the Fox Meadows Office Building #3. They never proceeded to the City Council level with their proposal. Petitioners stated that it was their agreement with Belmar Builders that fell through in that situation. Also, another factor in their decision was the fact that the State found "The Place":a more satisfactory site than Fox Meadows for the purpose of a Montessori Day Care School'. SOne more complication in this issue, as pointed out by Staff, was the fact that Marshall and Bary Everson have applied for the identical CUP, a Montessori Day Care School at "The Place'" apartment complex. Staff PLANNING COMMISSION PIEETING MINUTES -5- dune 18, 1975 intends and has been asked to bring this issue bask to the City Council which means that both: petitions will be on the Council agenda on the same day. ilOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Chairman Kroskin that the request of Cynthia Albrecht and Hridi Dorfineister for a Clip to operate a Montessori School at "The Place" apartment complex be denied on the basis of Section 10, Subdivision 3, Article 7 which states "Gay Care Centers and nursery schools when operated within an apartment complex and for the use of persons residing the-ein". (Ord.73-19 Nov.5,1973) indicating that the proposal as presented does not meet the requirements set forth by the Ordinance. Commissioner Threinen pointed out that even if the CUP was approved for a one year period, by that time the petitioners would have invested in remodeling, etc., and the CUP would be impossible to revoke. Staff pointed out that the area in which the day care school would operate had been purposely built for such an activity by Landtech. Petitioners stated further that they were not anticipating any capital investments would be needed. The only money they would be; putting in would. be their equipment.. Landtech would be investing the capital needed fcr meeting the state regulations for sucn a facility on the site. Tre motion was further discussed as to facilitating the petitioners and the problems with Landtech's parking lot problem for the apartment complex. The issue of traffic congestion was also discussed again; petitioners sabmitted a traffic survey to the Commission which indicated that no real parking or traffic problems. existed that could not be handled. The main motion was then voted upon. MOTION CARRIED (5-1-0) (Commissioner Hagen against) MOTION CARRIED It was requested that the minutes reflect the following: 1) That it is the concern of the Commission that these petitioners and the Eversons be treated equally. 2) That this use is totally inconsistent with Landtech at the time because of the present parking problem they are experiencing at "The Place". 624 Harwood. B. Heggen -624 Lot Division Staff presented petitioners request to divide a 4.3 acre parcel into two lots, Parcel "A" of 18,810 squa.: feet and Parcel "B" of 3.8 acres, Staff commented that they had two major reservations with respect to this division as proposed by petitioner: 1. For all practical purposes, there is no 'public street frontage provided. The pi esent easement is for snow plowing purposes. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES -6 Juno 1$, 197 2. Any development of this property should take into account future possible- subdivisions of Parcel "6" into smaller lots, and allow feasible routing with possible connection to Quaker lane to the east or a connection with Pilgrim Lane to the South. As per the Staff proposed lot division, an adjustment of the property line could be effected to provide enough land in the area to create two legal Wilding lots and a legally sized cul-de-sac in the corner of the lot.. This would leave the. option open to bring a street in for connection with thepotential additional building lots. It would be preferred to grant: variances in terms of setbacks and houses size than to have a completely illogical street arrangement. MOTION was 'made 'by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Hagen that the request of Harwood B. Neggen be deferred until the following questions could be answered; 1 What would be the status of the easement as per the City Attorney. 2. That would the City Engineer recommend to be the alignment necessary to provide a cul-de-sac by Parceel "B" in order to clear it's south boundary; and what amount of land would it leave to the South., It was stated that this action was being taken in an attempt to arrive at a solution more along the lines of what petitioner had in mind. MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED Proposed Change in. hand Use Guide Plan As a result of the }public Hearing on the proposed change in the Land Use Guide Flan for Medicine Lake (Sections 1.4, 15, 221, and 23) which was held Mcnday, June 9, 1975 the City Councilrequested the Planning Commission to formulate a recommendation to be forwarded to the Council at its next meeting with respect to the; proposed Land Use Guide Plan change as presented at the Hearing. Council further requested that the Planning Commission make specific recommendationswith respect to the following issues; 1. The proposed access from 35th Avenue North 2. The timing of the County Road g "park Access" road. It was stated by Planner Dillerud that as a result of whatever action may be forthcoming, the City would be in a position to tell Hennepin County that it would or would not, or would with conditions approve their proposal for a Regional park at that location. The Commission asked Mr. Otto Christensen, representing the Hennepin County mark Reserve District, when the decision would be made by the County to purchase; or not to purchase the land for the park development. Mr. Christensen stated that the, next meeting would be held on July 3 at which time a decision would probably be made .dependir; upon the decisions of PLANNING COMMISSION 14 ETING -7- June 18,, 1975 Of the Plymouth Planning Commission and City Council actions with respect to the change in the Land Use Guide Plan, Commissioner Threinen asked Peter Pflaum, President of Lungren Brothers Construction, Inc. a partner in the Mission Partnership, if the Mission Partnership's plans for the land now proposed for the park had changed since the Commission had last seen them. it Pflaum responded that the plans had not changed. They were waiting for word from Hennepin County as to whether the County would be purchasing the land or not. If Hennepin County did not purchase the land, Mission Partnership would proceed with the -'r original plans; He further stated that they had been waiting for this decision for nine months now, Chairman Kroskin brought up the ques°t-on of the County Road 9 park access road. He stated that, when asked about the timixag of the road at the Public Hearing, Mr.. Cliff French, Superintendent of the Hennepin County Park Reserve District, stated that the completion of the park access road from County Road 9 would be difficult to determine. There could be no guarantee from the County as to timing on the construction of that road. Mr. Christensen further, explained the situation the County Park Reserve is in with the County Public Works Department. The Park District has worked out an agreement with the County Public Works people for construction of a park access road., In these cases, the Park. District will put up orae-hal`f of the dollars and the Public Works department will put up the other one-half to up -grade the road. When all the money is accounted for the.: Public Works people will put the road on its schedule. In the case of Elm Creek Park Reserve; the park had been open for one or one: and one-half years before the park access road was opened to the public. if Plymouth would require the dark access road to be completed .before the opening of the pay %,, it woul' be a new condition_ the Park Reserve District would have to work out with the Public Works Department of the County. Cornnissioner Schneider noted that the proposed Land for the park does not *Include the land over which the County Road 9 and park access roads would be constructed_. Mr. Christensen stated that it would not matter If the Park Retserve District did; not own the property over which the roads would be constructed. The roads would be constructed as a County project anyway. MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen supportedby Commissioner Threinen that the Planning Commission recommend tete modification of the adopted Land Use Guide Plan dated July 2 1973 within the boundaries of the proposed Hennepin County Regiora] Park at such time and to such extent as the Hennepin Covnty Park Reserve District becomes the fee owner of parcels within the proposed boundaries. MOTION was made by Commissioner, Hagen supported by Commissioner Erickson that the motion be tabled. MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) All in favor) MOTION CARRIED PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING _8- June 18 1975 MOTION was made by CommIssioner:Davenport supported by Commissioner Threinen ; that the Planning Comnissiofx reaffirm, as a matter of public policy, the concept of the estabiishment'of a County Regional Park at Medicine Lake. MOTION to amend was made by 'Commissioner Threinen supported. by Commissioner Hagen that the Planning Commission further recommend to the Council that they give the Hennepin County Park Reserve District permission for the acquisition fn order to implement the Goal E, Human Development of the Coals, Objectives and Criteria, and all the objectives and criter°iaatherein. LOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED The main motion as amended was then voted upon, MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All: in favor) MOTION CARRIED. Chairi2tan Kroski i declared a 5 minute recess at 9:30 p.m. The meeting was called back to order by Chairman Kroskin at 9:35 p.m. MOTION was mcWe by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Threinen to take from the table the motion approving the modification of the Land Use Guide Plan Commissioner Erickson questioned whether this motion would be sufficient if the situation would arise wherein the County would decide not to purchase a small piece of land that the City had already reguided, as they had originally intended, Commissioner Hagen responded that the intention of the motion was to reguide the land as It was purchased which would take care of this type of situation. Voting on the main motion followed, MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED MOTION was made by Compossiover Threinen supported by Commissioner Hagen that County Road 9 be designated by means of sign, through Larch Lane as primary access to the part'; and that its construction be made a first priority item to park acquisition and development; and further that 36th Avenue North be an unsigned secondary part: access only. MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED Reports of Officers, Boards and Corivitl;ees Planner Dillerud reported to'thO Canmi„kion that he had spoken with Mayor Hilde about scheduling a joint meeting of the Planning Commission and the City Council., The meeting will be set for sometime in July, The City Council has one more meeting remaining on the Proposed New Zoning PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING _g June 18 1975 Ordinance. No date has been established for that meeting. Council: actions on the previous Planning Commission items were reported, to; he Commissioners., Minutes of the June 4, 1975 Planning Commission Meeting MOTION was Made by Comissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner. Threinen that the minutes of the June 4, 1975 Planning Commission meeting be approved as written. MOTION CARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED MOTION was made by Commissioner Theeinen supported by Commissioner Erickson that the meeting be adjourned. MOTIONCARRIED (6-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED The meeting was adjourned by Chairman' Kroskin at 10;00 p.m. APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION July 2, 1975 Reg 'Kroskin, Chairman Plymouth Planning Commission Charles E. Di ll erud, Secretary