HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 04-02-1975PhAMI G CONMISSIOIN,t
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April 2 1 7
A. regular meet jng of the Plymouth Planning Cgngission was called to order
by Chairman Kroskin at 7:40 p m. in the Council Chambers of the Publ c ForksBuilthig, 14900 - 23rd ,Avenue North.
UMBERS PREST M Chairli= KrosUn, Com issi oners Ragen, Erickson, Threinnen,
Davenport, Schneider, and S+Wart
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WERS ABSEWt None.
STAFF PRESENT: Climles Dillerad, Milt Salo, Kate Mar c, and Jchmx Toyer,
anst.ng Intern
OTIOUS PRES I T' None
Main= hroskin opened the Public Hearing at 7`.40 p.m.
v'TTA, SiC. A Rezoning from R-0
to R-1 and R-3
Staff presented petitioner's request to ruzQne a parcel of land at the
southeast corner of County Road 47 and Pine'dew Lane explaining thiat the
proposal involves 32465 acres based on a proposed. Preliminary Plat of "Bass
Lake Highlands In addition it proposed that a 4.3 acre area that now
abutts County Road 47 be rezoned R-3.
The Staff stated that they were addressing the issue in teams of one verybasicproblem. The area that is being proposed isnot at this time ,served
by sewer and ;water. The exact timing of when this will be avialable is
difficult to ascertain, Possibly thiswill take place within the next
five years.
Effectively the Staff recommended denial teased on the reasons stated in
the Staff report, that is, inconsistency with the basic policy of the city.
Bruce Shop son, representing Eugene Ijickok, owner- of the property made theO-Il tran; pa nis
1) Me development and rezoning proposed by them is compatiWe
w*th the residential area; to the east of the property in question..
2) It is their understanding that the City is granting building
permits to others based on percul.ati.on tests.
3) AAual:development of the land could not realistically take
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P lace until some tip in 176. This is an attempt to get some
of the `shouse in ordev, on some of this real estate.
4) Since the Sewer and water will be to the site in 1576 it is not
visi'Vle where the problem lies in terms of further development
of this land,
This si-tuation is causing eco romic hardship to the owner.
Eugene, Hickok, stated, that wll of these lots lige on sloping ground to the
04th, it is good drainage area, in: that there are no had sots in this area
None of the lots are under standard of the City. Ile was asking Cor no
variances on any, of the lots for size. Ile stated that he has confornilod with
the City's Guide plan as far as zoning and he felt that there had been a
sincere attempt to follow the plan of the City.
Commissioner Threinen questioned whether. qtr. Hickok was not asking for two,
ttYgaes of zoning without a planned Unit Development. Mr. Hickok responded
that 90 of what the Commission was seeing at this tirae on, the snap wouldbethesame, the only difference being assigning of buildings to specific
locations'within -the plat.
Commissioner Erickson stated to fir. Ri.ckok that he was talking both about
not developing Until sewer and water were available znd also about drain
field. `.Where is confusion as to whether he was suggesting one or the otherorbath. qtr. Wlickok responded that he would go ahead and try to develop
the hand at the earliest possible date and that may require some temporary
private s ear er .
Commissioner Iiagen gwstioned whethon a development is causing the City
to extend ;the sower aid water, in ef$ wct leapfrogging and making the City
do something on which they had not planned. In light of this, the plan
is definitely premature, he commented,
Conorssioner Threinen asked that Staff comment with resp,-Ct to, the 43
acre parcel change to R-3 and the fact that General had
not been submitted for it. Staff responded that R-3; woulu llow o density
that could exceed an LA -2.. If the General development Plan were presented
for the R-3 section in the detail that is usually e< ected, it eoiid
specify the exact number of units.
Commissioner Hagen stated that if we consider R-3 rezoning, it is necessary
to know hog,} it czn be used, it appears to be a strap approaching 200'
in width along what will be a major thoroughfare. The: Commission would
be doing an injustice to the proponent and to the City bynothaving aplanavailableforthis2001
Cmnrdssi.oner Davenport indicated that he did not feel:. that Mr. Hickok would
economically be prejudiced by putting off approval for a year or 18 months
because increased costs could be passed on to the purchasers.
Chairman kroskin: asked if anyone in the audience was present to speak in
favor of the request, None being present, he asked if anyone wished to
speak in opposition on the proposed rezoning,
Dave P ba,, representing the Bass lake Improvement Association, voiced his
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association's concerns on this matter, He presented do major points
1) tlppositaon to any type of lake access or, outlots the nice of
which could possibly be °used, no1v or in tine future, for anythingotherthanfoottraffic.
The "buffer zone" between the single family residential area
and the proposed noighborhood shopping center be R-2; It is the
Associ ° tam's preference that this buffer remain in its natural
state and tai used in the proposed trail system.
Air. Pauba pas,,ed out a copy :.t the prepared statement from the ,Association
to all members ;,, the Planning Colium.ssi,on,
C, representing the Shorevood, Homeowners Association, expressed
t free Enalor concerns of his association to the Comm ss4on
l) Further development of new points of access to Bass Lake be
prohibited.
2) Further land development be proliibitcd until approriate sanitarysewerserviceisavailabletosuch. areas.
That the rezoning and plata approval should be restricted to logy
density single family &rellings with particular attention to
resultant traffic patterns which should not be alloived to signi-
ficantly and adversely affect the health, safety and welfare of
the existtig residents
Public Hearing on this item was closed. at 8:40 pm.
MOTION was made by Coiwiissioner Davenport supported.. by Commissioner 'Stewart
that the Planning Commission should act on the petition
4NOTICS 1t ED (7.0.0) (Al.l an far -,r) MOTION CARRI
Additional comments ivere made by Chairman Kroskin on the issue of timinginMr. Mckok's case. Staff was asked if any, preparation went :into a report
on the plat itself. Planner Dillerud stated that there was no effort put
in because of the more basic issue at hand involvixrg the Hickok property. Commissioner Erickson raised the additional point that although it is
intended to have sewer and water to the site by 1976, theve are too manyvariablesinvolved, i .e, failure to complete 1975 planned capital, improve-
ments, that could not be ,guaranteed for completion to Air. Hickok or tD the
City. Staff supported this co;miient with additional probleis that have alreadycomeup, also the fact that decisions for expenditures for 1976 wall Tiot
be grade until. September or October of this year.
MOTION Avas made by Comte ssioner Schneider supported. by Commissioner Stewart,
that the Planning Commission. make the following recommendations to the CityCt3unci, l :
That the request of Mendota, Inc. for approval of the rezoning for a parcel:
of land at the southeast corner of County Road 47 and Pineview Lane dated
karch 10, 1975 for xe%oni.S g of 2.8.15 acres from R-0 to R -I and 4.40 acresfromR-0 to R-3 be denied,
Further that said recommendation is based upon the following findings bytheColmnissi.on with 'respect to the R-0 to R_J
1) Proposed rezoning violates the intent of the City Council Reso-
lution, 7-37 which states development should not ,occur in areas
not served by public utilities.
Proposal is inconsistent with City's Goals, Objectiyes`xhd Criteria
Goal A. Objective 3, Criteria 4) 'IJU I public ser icesda site
improvements shall he completed at the time of residedia'I develop-
merit. "'
Further, that said recomanendation is based upon the following findings bytheCoMi.ssion with respect to the R-0 to R-3
1) Proposed rezoning violates the intent of City Council Resolution
73-37 uhich states development should not occur in areas not
served by public utilities,
2) Proposal is inconsistent with City's Goals, Objectives and Criteria
Goal A, Objective 3, Criteria 4) "AU_ public—services on site
improvements shall, be completed at the time of residential
Sdevelopment."
3) Inconsistency of the proposed General Development Plan with the
provisions of Section. 17, Subdivision 3, Paragraph 1 of the ZoningOrdinance, particularly sterns b. c., d,, f. , g and h,
WI'SCN CARR t "- -" (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
NOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Brickson
that in the event that the City Council decides to waive policy Resolution
73-37 that tip A -.60q plat return to the planning Coy dssion for additional
consideration, including, but not limited to the following
1) More, suitable park- land dedication suggestions,
2) Me, blending of tte R -s with the R-1 to follow the LA -2 guidelines
of .the Comprehensive Land Use Guide Plan,,
3) Tl e access problems of tate suggested R-3 area, particularly
Ivith respect to County Road 47,
C,hainitan Kroskan moved an amendment supported by Commissioner Hagen that
the motion be changed to read, "In the event the City Council, decides to
waive Policy Resolution 73-37 that plat A-609 return to the PlanningCommission ' a»d to the Plannt., Staff' xt
MOTION CMII (7-0-0) (Ml in favor) MOTION CARRIED
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Comms., sioner Erickson; moved an additional amendment supported by Chairnianro5ki, that no actual building development take place until sewer and waterareavailabletothesite,
MTIf CARRIED (S-2..0) ComPiissioners Stewart and lagers against::
WTION CARRIED
Doting on. the main .motion as amended followed.
MOTION CARRIED (7.-0- 0) (All in favors MOTION CARRIED
Ruiner Dillerud asked that the record show that development of this landisnowpossible.
Chairman Kroskin called a five minute recess at 9:02 p.m.
Ue meeting, i,tas called back to order at 9:07 p.m.
Rhe to technicalroblems Uie ordersp , o " the, clay. were, suspended to consider
T4:1,, Mutes of the Planning Comm ssiea Meeting of March 19) 1975 for approval,
C=dssioner Davenport asked that. udder #3 part A, American Oil Company, she following statement be added: regarding the final vote on the issue;
It was noted by the Commissioners voting in favor c:f the
motion that part of the reason for their vote was the fact
that Moco could have modified the site plan to provide
for a car wash bay without a need for variance
but if they had done so, it would have been in a much less
desirable location because of access problems.
Commissioner Davenport requested further that it be noted in 03 part B,
Weaver Electric Company that he had stepp(.,=; dolm prior to discussion of
this topic and thorefore abstained from all discussion as well as the voting.
MOTION eras made by Comrt~.issioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Stewart
that the minutes of the Planning Commission meeting of March 19, 1975 beacceptedasamended.
MOTION CARRIED (7-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION' CARRIED
A-518 Pritz J4 Uullickson A-518 Lot Division of
Unplatted Property
Staff gave a brief history of the Gullickson property as per dealings
with the Commissi:on lair, Gullickson was before this body one year ago and
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O at that time there was a request for rezoning. 'the petitioner did not
resubmit this to the Council. He is requesting a lot division at this time.
The division was shown on the maps and staff recommended approval and also
recommended that tvo variances for Parcels B and C be included as stated.
This would be a r variance for Parcel B and a 5' variance for 'Parcel C.
Commissioner Hagen questioned this method of division, rather than platting. Planner Dillen id explaine l that there was a. substantial, time factor involved
and secondly, this would save the cost of the drawings. He added that it
may be appropriate for the Planning Commission to try to establish a policy
regarding this type of request;
Commissioner Brickson questioned Aiy petitioner did not simply adjust those
lot lines requiring the variance rather than requesting the variance. fir.
Gullickson responded that he wanted to maintain the 10' side yard for the
existing house,
MOTION Nast made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Stewart
that the request of Fritz J. Gullickson dated December 27 1072 fora lot
division of unplatted property for single family homes beiapproved subject
to the following conditions
l) 12OW as needed be dedicated to the City along Zinnia Lane, i.e.
30 feet
2) ROW as needed be dedicated to the City for CoLinty Road 61 along
the east side of proposed Parcel; C, i.e. 2,330 square feet.
3) Cash payment to the City's Park Dedication Fund of $300.00, i.e.,
150.00 for each new lot.
Further that the following variances be ap=proved as a result of this action,
i.e.
1) A 7 foot width variance for Parcel B.,
2) A 5 foot width variance for Parcel C.
MOTION CARRIED (7-0-0) (All in favor)MOTION CARRIED
orrain—e 11, Beam A-277 Renewal of Conditiona;i
Use Permit
Planner dale stated that this request was very similar to the one glade a year
ago. Staff has contacted the residents and they had no objection to the
petitioner's hom occupation
MOTINI was made by Commissioner Davenport and supported by Commissioner
Steuart that the request of Lorraine E. Beam for a Conditional Use Permit
to operate a dog grooming business at her home at 11624 Higlr=ay 55 be
approved for one year subject to the following condition, no advertising
signs be a11014ed on the property,
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MOTION -0-0) in favor) MOTIOr c IED
lto art an eorge 1Creatz - Final Plat of Lot
Block 1 of "Gleason Trail
Staff r s _nted the txonto. F3 nal Plat a single 2.2 acre lot of the
Gleason 'frail. Subdivision, 'Ilia zoning and preliminary plat of' is area
had been acted upon xn 1969. Staff noted its concern of maintaining theintegrityofthestreetsystemproposedbyboththepreliminarypkatand
ening action. lath dedication of half streets on both the north and south
sides of the proposed final plat staff suggested system integrity would be
maintained and "fairshare'' street dedication accomplished.
Staff concluded that approval of this final plat for a lot: with existing
structures would be of benefit to the property owner while not harmful
to the City or future development of the balance of the Gleason Trail
subdivision.
Commissioner Threinen expressed concern that the subdivision regulations
did not allow enough control on the part of the Planning Commission.
Planner Dillerud stated that the Commission does have reasonable control
over the rest of the lot. The City .has the entrances and exists to the
property under i:tscontrol.
NUTION was made by Commissioner Sriclson and supported by Commissioner
Stewart that the final plat for .Lot 1 Block 1 of the Gleason 'frail be approved
subject to the follmang conditio;x
ROW along the Horth and South property lines for street and utility
purposes should be dedicated by petitioner Kreatz to the City. This
would amount to 40 feet of ROW or to the center Lire of the two proposed
streets
WTiON CARRIED (7-0-0) (All in ;favor) MOTION CARRIED
Hennepin C2Linty Park Reserve Development of Medicine Lake park
Planner Dillerud distributed a copy of a memo from city Manager James
G ' ..;:his on the progress of the Hennepin County park reserve districts
for a regional park on Medicine Lake. Tlie Metro Council and the County
have jointly decided that this is a priority project. There were conditions
in both bodies requiring the concurrence of the City prior to the taking
of the land by them for the park. Attached to the memo to the City Council
there was a last of four items that the Council thought would be of concern..
Some of these were similar to the ?ark Commission's concerns, The staff-
had taffhadbeenworkingwiththeStaffoftheHennepinCountyParkReserveinan
effort to respond to the concerns of the Council. It was noted that the
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proposed park relates to the Mission Partnership PUD proposal.
Otto Christensen and Donald King, representing the Ilennepin County Park
Reserve iscussed their pl,,:.is with the Comission,
Chairman }'soskin asked how long the plan had been "on the drawing board"
in the County, AZIr. Christensen responded that he was tnisare of the time
but would get back to the Commission with that information.
Commissioner Threinen expressed concern over the numbers of people taking.
advantage of the park's facilities at any one time. fir. Ki;n responded
that on any given peak day, such as Sunday or the Fourth of July, the County
estimates about 40 pe -*ale per acre within the developed acres This would
amount to approxinatt.,.y 5,600 people. In addition, estimates are for about
1,100 cars in a situation like this. °t"'here the park will see its greatest
use is in a reservation type of situation such.as company or church picnics,
Commissioner Stewart -requested a run down of some of the winter activities
that might take place in tie park. Mr. king mentioned such activities as
snow nobiling, tobogganiAg, sledding, ice sLating, etc.
Commissioner Erickson expressed concern about the gateway controls. lir..
Christensen explained the method used in many of the regional parks, that
is, the gateways may be locked and controlled during off hours by rangers.
Commissioner Threinen asked for a time plan for this park. NIL. Christensen
indicated that t would probably take one year for acquisition of the land
and another fey* years to complete development., Ile emphasized the fact that
the County considers this a priority project. The County wrill be ready
to move as soon as the development plan is set,
Com,,J,ssioner Stewart as u -ell as several other commissioners expressed
concern about 36th Avenue North and the potential increase in traffic
and the potential controls that could be implemented to minimize the traffic.
Preference was for traffic to be routed North to County Road 9.
MOTION was made by Commissioiier Iiagen and supported by Commissioner Stewart
that the Planning Commission endorse the preliminary proposal of the Hennepin
Count), Park Reserve for the development of a park on Medicine Lake with
emphasis on control and treatment of traff:.c.
MOTION CARRIED U-0-0) (All in favor) MOTION CARRIED
Reports of Officers, Boards ani Committees
Planner Uillerud reporteld the act=ions of the Council at its last imec:ting.
Dan Ralicrdwas denied his request. Also, the Council adopted -rhe alignment
for Medina Road that is somewhat different from what the Comni.ssiou requested
but it accomplishes the same purposes the Commission had in mind..
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MOTION was made by Cowu,ssioner Hagen and supported by Canmdssioner Dricksor
hat the meeting be ad j ounied.
etng adjourned at .0:35 p.m.
APPROVED BY PLANNING COr1*14ISSION' _April 16, 1975
Reg 7roskin, Chainnan
Plymouth x Aanning Commission
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ChArles B. D;ill.erud, Secretary