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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 01-08-1975PLANNING C044ISSION CITY OF PLYMOUTH, H, MINNESOTA January $, 1975 A regular meeting of the Plymouth: Planning Commission was called to order byChairmanKroskinat7-35 pm. in the Council Chambers of the Public WorksBuilding, 14900 w 23rd Avenue North. MEMBERS PRESENT: t,hairman Kroskin, Commissioners Hagen,Erickson, Threinen, Davenport and Schneider. MEMBERS ABSENT: Coamissioner Stewart (represented Plymouth at M.T.C. 1.1.4 Corridor Study STAFF PRESENT Charles D%1l erud, Randall Thoreson and Agatha Mortenson OTHERS PRESENT: Councilman Neils, Tom Duntley; Y.A.M. Representative and Connie Genung., Y.A.A,C, Alternate Representative Chairman Kroskin opened the Public hearing at 7:35 p,pi. MEL IF1 G. ASTLEFORD A -44S Rezoning froia -0 and 1-2 to 8.3 for "Bass Lake Plaza" Baldwin Chevrolet Site only) and General Development Plan. of Bass lake Plaza" , Staff presented this request as a continuation from november 20, 1974 meeting. Staff reviewed the redesigned plan and -found it to be in general conformance with the land Use Guide: Plan. The City Engineer indicated no apparent problem with the private septic system petitioner has proposed to use. Staff did point out the fact public sewer and water would not be available until 1979 and Staff was concerned that approving a development under these conditions might set an un hl e precedent. Frank L. Berg,, Jr., of Consulting Engineers Diversified, Inc., 7708 LakelandAvenueNorth, Osseo, Mn., representing the petitioner, was available for question- ing. Sot defense of the proposed electro--osmossi copti'c system, the earliest one installed in Plymouth was in 1970 or 1971 and is still functioning,, is located In a private home at 5900 "irkwood; the one at Walton Ford has been operating satisfactorily for nearly a year. He felt confident that the system would be t satisfactory foN4 this particular type of use, but he would discourage its use for most of the otheri;uildings being proposed as they would' probably exceed the. capacity of any type or individual disposal, and therefore, he would discourage any further level crpaitnt of this area until public service is available. 11e had not discussed this matter with the petiti.orer and therefore could. express onlyhisown -thoughts on the matter.; PLAININING COMMISS13H MEETING MINUTES - 2 w January 8, I975 Discussion surrounded the following 1, If the sewer system ftwi ed, the City would then be forced to provide public service ahead of schedu,e. Approval of a development plan prior to availability of public sewer and water would be against the cry's policy, 3. Would a precedent be set for araer developers Pad a prt;(:odent already been set by alloiing such a system for Walton Ford? Public bearing on t'Ifs item was clo3ed at 7.50 p.m. NOTION was rude by Commissioner Davenport supported by Commissioner Erickson that the Plann"Ing Commission take action on this request at the end of the Public Hearings MTICN CARRIED All in favor CARRIED 7350 FLUD, . OLSON A-850 Prel imi nary _Plat - "ttapl e Creek" Stat, presented the request for the development of a 1-lot single family resi- dential subdivision, a portion of the larger Delos Taylor Development Plan that had .been approved two years ago, The previously approved plan was reviewed briefly, and the changes between the two plans, particularly the changes in thkj streets, were pointed out by Staff. The Engineering Departtnent has reviewed V-e proposed plata and round no problem with it, other than correcting the street names.,.. The amount of open space proposed on the new plan, 7.83 acres, does meet the requirements of Ordinance, although some of what is designated as "parr;" is really sump or drainage area. Staff would recommend trailways or a park, located in the southeast corner, or a combination of both. Parks and Recreation Advisory Ca fission had not viewed this plat. As for the pond in the northeast cornu, designated OL42, the Consulting Engineer had'ind cated it c^n be adjusted bath as to shape and depth and thus not interfere with the size of the lits Points of d*scussion brought the followinCl4 1. The pondin the port"ast corner is not dry and does contain water, especially in the spring. The use of "half streets" in strut names versus "Place". (City now contains some of each). 3, Cul;-de-sa"C.- off set versus symetrical 4. No thru streets to the vre.s.t (thy: original plan approved the use of cul-de-sacs possibly with a break-a-way similar to the situation at "Greentree Uest"- PLNN JNG W41ISSION MEETING L"ijNUTES January 8, 1975 Floyd Olson indicated the portion of land he was buyinq on a purchase contractcE71totincludetheportiondesignatedforthesoutheastpark, As present this land is maintained in the ownership of Delos Taylor, C"Dean was expressed by Cowlissi'oners as to how to handle the requirement of the previously approved Generel Development Plan whish called for a trail 10 rods wide, and what would be needed to assure that this requirement would be met. Commissioners expressed the feeling that since this was only a part of the larger plan, the landowner, Mr. Taylor, should be present so Commissioners could have the opportunity to question him regarding plans for tike balance, including theprovisionfortheW- rod wide trail easement. qtr. Olson felt 'he had provided the 7.78 acres for parks as required and he had not discussed the 10 --rod trail easement with Mr. Taylor because he felt it did not concern him. MOTION wa;, made by Commissioner Thi+einen supported by Commissioner Erickson that the public hearing on this request of Floyd B. Olson for approval of a preliminaryPlatof "Maple Creek" be continued and that Delos Taylor be invited to appear before the Planning t"ommflssion as it is incumbent upon the landowner. Delos Taylor to meet the requirements as stipulated by Council action of October 15 1973 prior to any subsequent.. development: Commissioner Threinen felt that if Mr. Taylor has ret the requirements sof the Council action, the Planning Commission can act on Mr. Olson's proposal; but: if he has not, then the zoning of that land is not in effects as the zoning was contingent upon the approval of the General Development Plan with condition. Even 'trough general approval of the plan being .presented was acknowledged, the Commissioners were co-teerneu about the plans for the balance of the land rt,jlved in the approved General Development Plan to assure that Council's conditions would be met. MOTION CARPIFD All in favor CARRIED The public hearing ..as closed at 8.25 p.m. A-409 MEl V I N G. ASTLEFORT A--449 Rezoning and General Develop- ment Plan - "Bass Lake Plaza'" MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supportedby Commissioner Erickson that the Planning Commission maize the following recommendation tu'the City Council: That the request of Melvin G, Astleford foto rezoning of "Bass Lake Plaza" from R -O (Open Residential) and 1- (General Industrial) to 8-3 (56rvice Business) based upon the Genera Development Plan and legal description submitted January 8, 1975 be granted inasmuch as it is in conformance with the Guide Plan and 'inasmuch as the precedent for that type of development he has proposed ha been set by Walton, Ford, I Commissioner Threilien felt this proposal Was as acceptable as Walton Ford was uslnr the same sewer system, and he painted out Condition 3 of Council Resolution 73.37 dated January 7, 1973 which regulates approved urban development, as hisbasis,; PLANNING C%1MISSION MEETING MINUTES 4 January 8, 1975 Mr. Frank Berg reiterated his stand that he would not recommend any future buildings be placed on the same type of seder system because the buildings proposed would have a higher wager consumption than that required by the two automobile agencies, He shared the concern of the Commissioners about on-site disposal and notedthe proposed system had not been in use for a sufficient period of time on which to base its effectiveness with other types r"f`buildings... He further stated he had no knowledge of any plans for the development of the balance prior to 1979. MOTION CARRIED All in favor CARRIED MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Erickson that the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council, That the request of Melvin G. Astleford for General Development Plar for ;'Sass bake PlazaO dated January 8, 1975 be approved, subject to the coAdition that no additional development of the area beyond the Ra'dwin Chevrolet un -:ii public sewer and water are available to the area. MOTION CARRIED All in favor CARRIED Meeting was recessed at 8:35 p.m.. and reconvened at 8:45 p.m. New 8osiness. A-499 MINK POLIS AUTO AUCTION A-499 Conditional Use Permit Staff presented this request for a Conditional Use Permit to temporarily park surplus autos belonging to the petitioner n adjacent property. Staff noted that petitioner is already utilizing this site for this purpose, as he had last winter. The easterly portion of this lot has been filled to some extent and that is where petitioner is seeking penrission to store the cars. Petitioner stated that this situation only occurs during the winter time when there is the excess amount of cars. Staff recommended approval with the conditions listed in their report. Staff did express concern that this could indicate an extension of petitioner's operations on a piece -meal basis H. A. Johnson, Minneapolis Auto Auction, skated the vesicles were used cars. Lie stated this year Chrysler was overloaded and thus the used cars were sent on to the re -con centers earlier~ He stated lie. still has expansion room on the north side of his lot,' Mr, Johnson .stated he was of the opinion that he had obtained at least verbal permission from rude Yamman when he contacted him upon receipt of the letter from qtr. Yamnan, although Mr. Kamman did tell hire that he had to apply for a Conditional Use Permit and seek Council approval for this operation, which is what he is now doing, PLAIN INq COMMISSION MEETING MI- MUTES - 5 January 8, 1975 MOTION was made by Commissioner Erickson supported by Chairman Kroskin that the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council That the request of the Min.,Iapolis Auto Auction for a Conditional Use Permit to purl, cars on a temporary basis on proposod "Medicine Lake Industrial Perk" property be approved, subject to the folly n(7 conditions; I. No parking of cars on the .subject prop. .y after May 1, 1975. 2. The Conditional Use Permit be granted on a one-time basis only. S. Permission from the property, owner be obtained granting Minneapolis Aito Auction permission to park surplus cars on his property, MOTION CARRIED (4-2-0) (Commissioners Threinen and Davenport opposing) CARRIED AA5g3 CARLSON C0h1FAt i1ES, IMC. A dot Division and Site Plan Staff presented this request for approval of a Site Plan for a warehouse/distribu-- tion center for J. C. Tenney Co. to be located on Lot 1, Block 1, "Carlson Companies Addition'. The building will be 155,881 square feet from which distribution t6 their retail stores and possibly catalog sales will be made. At some time in the future, plans are for an addition to the building but there is sufficient land to accommodate the planned addition. Staff 'reviewed the traffic movement on this location leading to the suggestion that an elevation screen, possibly 4-5 feet, in the form of a berm be established along Xenum Lane to screen this movement, :staff also pointed out the fact that contrary to City's Policy of only one access per site onto a thoroughfare, they were recommending approval of the proposed ttwo accesses from this site due to the size of the lot, Staff recommended approval of the Site Plan, subject to the conditions stated in their report. Staff also presented the second action being requested by petitioner, that of a Tot division; and explained that when the t=ira1 Plat was approved, the exact lotlineshadnotbeendetermined. Robert E. Cumiinc , 5105 Tollview Drive, Rolling Meadows, 11. (representative r IJ. Pe_nney s home office in Chicago, 11. ), GordonHull, J. C. Penney`s Co., 730 - 2nd Avenue South, Minneapolis (representati M from tie local J.C. Penney's office), and John Sebold, Carlson Companies, Inc. (representing the petitioner) were present, lr. Cunmiings stated they did anticipate periodic warehouse sales direct to the general public, possibly two or three times a year for warehouse clearance. The purpose of the facility in Plymouth is primarily for distribution to their retail stores or delivery direct to the customer's homes of items too large to be pickedup at the store. I, I* PLANNING C 1MMIOU ME TING 31NUTES January 8, 1976 Staff reported that the Mader of occasionalsales in an industrial area wasdiscussedwithlegalcounsel, who found no problem with this situation. j I The Problem of parking during the warehouse sales v: -as discussed but the opinion expressed was that there was sufficient land to accomiiodate the parking, Mr, John- Sebold explained how the lot lines were established in the Final Platof "Carlson Companies Addition" and the reasons for the request to change thelotbinenowthattheSitePlanhasbeendeveloped. Coviissioner Hagen con- firmed that similar problems do arise in platting industrial parks as it isimpossibletodetermineaneeduntilthelotisproposedfordevelopment. Mr. Sebold stated they preferred not to consolidate the 130 foot remnant with the next Int at this time until the need for that lot is establisied or developed, Mr. Cummings pointed out some problems that had arisen, which he wanted clarified, 1. The area of the boiler rooni4 consisting of 690 square feet, had inadvertentlybeenomittedinthecalculations 2. They wanted permission to extend the railroad spur to the 30 foot setbaci, line. 3., The pians calked for seeding the green strip with perennial rye. owever,' their maintenance department requested something else be planted to helpcutdownonthemaintenance.. They wanted permission to contact and follow the advise of a local nursery as to what would be best for this area. 4. The fence was drawn indicating it mould be a few feet north of the building. They preferred to have it lire up with the building. Commissioners and Staff" expressed the opinion that none of the requests posed anyproblemstheycouldseeatthistime. MOTION was. made by Comt.iissiover Hagen supported by Commissioner Erickson that the Planning Co-aission rake the following recommendation to the City Council That the request of Carlson Companies for the approval of a. Site Plan dated December 24, 1974 for the use of J. C. Penney Co. be approved, subject to the following conditions. 1. Recommendations of the. Parks and Recreation Advisory Commission be made a part of this recommendation. Should a cash payment be recommended, the amount required would be $7,811.00 ($500 per acre x 15.62 acres) 2 All storage of waste and garbage be within the building. Outdoor storage of materials to be screened as per Staff direction. 3 A landscape and drainage :bond be posted with the Cityp rior to the issuanceofabuildingpermit. MOTION CW EC All In favor CARRIED r, PLANNUNG COMMISSION MEETING Mu1 res 7 January 8 1975 MOTION Inas made by Com miss over Hagen supported by Commissioner Schneider that the Planning Comm fission make the following recomrrmendation to 0e City Council; That the request of Carlson Companies, Inc, for a lot, division of Lot 1, Block 1, Carlson Companies Addition" into two lots, described as follows: PARCEL A The North 1,070 feet of Lot 1, Block 1, "Carlson Companies AdditionO., subject to utility and drainage easements .as required by the City. PARCEL The South, 130 feet of Lot 1, Block 1, "Carlson Companies Addition", subject to utility and drainage easements as required by the City. MOTION CARRIED All in favor CARRIED 4r1- CARCIL 7Z. --471 Conditional Use Permit Staff presented this request for a Conditional Use Permit for pilot plant processing testing: in a portion of the Belf4ar Building at Highway 55 andXeniumLane. Staff recommended approval with the three conditions listed in_their report. Mr. Richard W. Fulmer, Research Department, Cargill, Inc., represented the petitioner, explained in more detail the intended processing that will be carried on at this facility. Their Wayzata facility is overloaded and they anticipated moving a portion to the new location, He explained the provisions for venting ,af gases within the building, thus no exterior venting of gaseswillbenecessary. The wastes will be disposed of thru a form of concentration and evaporation and not disposed of thru the sewage system, There will be na milk drying process at this facility. MOTION was made by Commissioner Schneider stapported by Commissioner Dagen that: the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council-, That the request of Cargill,Inc, for a Conditional Use Permit to operate pilot plant testing equipment at 2530 Xenium Lane be approved,, subject to the follow- ing conditions-. 1. Performance standards as required in the I-1 i strict (Section 15 Subdivision 8 Zoning Ordinance) Piet. me t. 2. Building code requirements as per the State Building Code be followed, i,e, especially as relates to mezzanine use and. handicap requirements, l PLANNING C014MISSON MEETING MINUTES - B January 8 1915 S,, One name plate sign not to exceed 16 square feet. 4No venting of fermentation gases outside the building. Coilmissioner Schneider stated. he Mould like to see Condition No. 4 added, even though it is covered under Condition No. 1, to call specific attention to this requirement.,. MOTION CARRIED All in favor CARRIED ThAs concluded New Business at 5,35 p.m. Old Business, A IC9,77 PFT-R-S-- Amended Site Pian (Sian Plan) Staff presented this request for an amendment to the Site Plan. the sign plan was not presented with the Site Plan when it was approved, The building is located at the corner of 27th and Niagara Lane, petitioner, is requesting two signs to be erected on their building on the south and west elevations_. The signs meet the requirements and Staff recommended aonroval MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Erickson that the Planning: Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council. That the request of ;batt/Peterson: for approval of an Amended Site Plan and approval of ttlhe Sign Plan for their building at 27th and Niagara be approved. MOTION CARRIED All in favor CARRIED X-C. i sEPH E. PA NUA ' Final Plat - "Medicine Lake Industrial Park" Staff presented the request for approval of the Final Plat of "Medicine Laky Industrial Park" preliminary Plat for which was -recently approved. The conditions of the approval of the Preliminary Plat were reviewed and changes noted, Lot 3, Block 1 is shown as Outlot A on the Final Plat, the utility and drainage easement of six foot width along the inter;or lot lines are shown. The deviations bets -teen the north -south lot lines of bots 1. and, 2 were pointed out by Staff with corrections noted on the Final Plat. Staff recommended approval of the Final Plat. Joseph Pazandak, 1.025 Nathan Lane, explained that the differences in the lot dimensions occurred as a result of differences in the way the lots were described. P .&AIMING. COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES 9 .. January 8, 1975 Herb Margolis, representing Minter Brothers, stated the differences in the lotTinesadbeenworkedoutandthatwasnoproblem. Staff related Council's concerns for the right. -of -way for 10th Avenue and had directed Staff to provide a continuation of 10th Avenue right -of -gray to the westasfaraspetitioner's land continues, thru a separate conveyance action. Councilman Neils related Council's feelings on this matter and their reasons forthisrequest. Mr, Pazandak asked to he relieved of the condition to convey by deed Outlof A toMinneapolisAutoAuctionatthistime, at least for a period of time, thus givinghimalargerparceltoofferapotentialpurchaser. Discussion centered on this request, and what problems could arise if'a time clause were placed on thiscondition, possibly delaying the filing of the Final Plat. MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Davenport that the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council: That the Final Plat of "Medicine Lake Industrial Park" dated January 2, 1975 be approved, subject to the following conditions; 1 Change Lot 3, Block 1, designation to Odtlot A as per Planning CommissionrecommendationofDecember18, 1:74, 2 Utility and drainage easement 6 feet wide aloe the interior lot lin Additional easements as required by the City will be specified in es, Development Contract. 3, North-South dimension of Lot 1, Mock 1 be revised to 352.89 feet instead of358,3 feet, while North-South dimension of Lot 2, Block 1 be revised to 360.80 feet instead of 356.4 fejt, 4, The Development Contract :elude provision for a right-of-way for 10th AvenueNorthalongtheowner's ,operty to the west, MGTION CARRIED All in favor CARRIED Old Business; was concluded. at 1005 p.m. Reports of Offic ers, Boards and Committees, Staff reported that a schedule for Council review of the New Draft Zoning Ordinance had been prepared and work will be starting on it in February. Staff reported that Commissioner Stewart and Milton Dale were attending theM.TX . northwest Corridor Study Meeting as representatives of Plymouth. Staff reviewed Council's actions on the items referred to Council from the Paanning Commission's last meeting, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES 1O -- January 81 1975 Minutes of the Planning Commission Meeting December 18, 1974 were presented for approval Commissioner Erickson stated on page 9, paragraph S, under Steenberg Structures, the ",50 foot setback" should be "15 foot setback". Commissioner Hagen requested that on page 13, paragraph 1, the words "where possible" should be added at the end of the second sentence, MOTION was Made by Commissioner Erickson supported by Commissioner Threinen that the minutes of the Planning Commission: Meeting of December 18, 1974 be approved as amended. Q MOTION CARRIED (5-0-1) (Chairman kroskin abstaining) CARRIED MOTION was made by Comn ssioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Hagen that the meeting be adjourned. The meeting was adjourned at 10:25 p.m i Approved by planning Commission January t:?, 1975 Reg Aroskin, Chairman Plymouth Plann Commissio Y T C arles E Dillerud, Secretary i