HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 10-02-1974PLANNING COl"ilIMIOti
C1TY'OF PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA
October 2, 197
A regular meeting of the Plymouth Planning Commission was called to order byChairmanKroskinat7,30 p.m. in the CouncilChambers of the Public Works
Building, 14900 23rd Avenue North.
MtVI6ERS rR)`SENT: Chaiman Kroskin, Commissioners Schneider, Davenport?
Erickson, Piagen and Threi nen..
MtMBERS ABSENT: Commissionerover Stewart:
STAFF PRESENT: Charles Dillerud and Agatha Mortenson,
OTHERS PRESENT, Tore Duntley and Connie Genung, Y,A.A.C. Representatives
A148 ARNOLD "LEONARD A-148 Site Plan Review "South
Shore Villa" Apts.
Staff briefly reviewed the 96-unit apartment proposal highlighting -the extensive
history and the recent City Attorney's Opinion regarding the status of a 1969
Site Plan Approval of this project, Staff then indicated that in light ofthe
legal problems of the proposal, the petitioners had requested no action. on the
plan until problems could be resolved.. Commissioners acceded to petitioner's
request as related .by Staff and took no action.
Regarding. Projects A-148 and A-596, Messrs Maxwell and Dahlin, representingAHLAC, addressed the Commission regarding existing traffic problems on South
Shore Drive, They doted that additional development in this area would further
co!:4ipound existing traffic on the substandard street and requested City review of
the problem.
Chairman Kroskin acknowledged the issues raised by AMLAC and noted that the problem
should be considered in the light of Thoroughfare Guide Plan reco .G endations,
A- 95 LEO LtifilD/JOHN H. GULLZCKSON A-595 Lot Division r Unplatted Property
Staffoutlined this proposal for a lot division of 6,75 acres into two parcels.
The smaller parcel containing the apartment building was sold in 1973' on a Contract
for Deed. Staff feels the request does appear reasonable and recommends approval
with the conditions listed in their report. Discussion centered around the plans
for development of the balance of the parcel (Parcel A);, a site plan dated June 23,
1972: for Parcel A, and the question of access to Parcel A from South Shore Drive,
Leo 'Curd, 8900 Penn Avenue South, was present, stated they have no definite plans
for the balance, of the parcel, and recapped the previous plans relating to the
81-unit plan contained in the files. Chairman Kroskin explained the City's policy
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of requesting the dedication of land needed for right-of-way purposes in answer
to Mr. Lund `s question on Conditior 1. Chairman Kroskin asked that the Staff report
back to the Commission at the next meeting on the matter of whether or not the
requirements for area are calculated exclusive of the street right-of-way.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Erickson that the
Planning Commission make the following recommmendation to the City Council:
That the request of Leo Lund and John H. Gullickson for a lot division of Parcel.
9024, Plat 48735, be approved, subject to the following conditions:
1) The granting of 33 feet of right-of-way along South Shore Drive be applicable
to Parcels A and B.
2) The pa I;ient of Park Dedication Fund for Parcel A be made at the time the
parcel is developed.
3) A revised Site Plan for Parcel A be submitted complying with. present Zoning
Ordinance 'requirements at time of development of that parcel
MOTION CARRIED All in favor CARRIED
A -75W- 50NALD HENNIN S — Lot Division - Unplatted Property
Staff outlined the background ,on this request, beginning with the division into
several parcels in 1957, at which time a 20 foot easement was granted over Parcel
A" to give Parcel "B" access to County Road 6 rather than fee title ownership as was
o^iginally intended. Petitioner is requesting the lot division to correct the over-
sight
Discussion centered around the placement of the garages on Parcels "A" and "B",
and if there was any other solution to the problem than the one being presented.
Patrick Murray, 1010 Builders Exchange Building, Attorney for Donald Hennings,
owner of Parcel "A", confirmed Staff's report.
Staff felt it would not be appropriate to ask for any dedication at this time as
petitioner was not requesting approval of a development or site plan, but merely
a lot division to rectify an error.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Erickson that
the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council:
That the rgquest of Donald Hennings for a Subdivision Waiver to grant that the
20 foot easement along the east line of Parcel 7052, Plat 43730 be changed by
approving the division of the 20 foot strip along the east line of said parcel
from the balance of the parcel, to_siye access from Parcel "B" to County Road 6..
MOTION CARRIED All in favor CARRIED
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r l RY -FABER Lot Division - Un latt ed Pro ert
Staff reviewed the history o,1 t,%js request for a lot division due to a 1969 salethraa.contract for deed. Staff explained its .recommendations that petitioner
come in with a concurrent request to divide as shown and consolidate Parcel "B'"
with the Diller Property to the south, thus treating two sizeabxe parcels forgoodlandplantling
John Miller, 3550 Frances Avenue South, was present inthe audience, He explainedthattoryholdsanundividedone-half interest in the property, and as such,
he could noir force the others to combine their property with his;
Henry Faber, 2870 Medicine Lake Drive, was also present. Chairman Kroskin reviewedStaff's recommendations., Mr. Faber stated he understood the problem.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Chairman Kroskin that the
Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council:
That the request of Henry A. Faber for division of unplatted property (Parcel 1410, Plat 43723) into Parcels "A'" and "B" be denied .
Commissioner Threinen stated this transaction was contrary to the City's Subdivision
Regulations. and both parties should be made aware of the regulations. Mr. Miller
requested that the petition be withdrawn, but Chairman Kroskin expressed the
thought that some action slwuld be taken by the Commission for the records andtherewasamotiononthefloor.
MOTION to AMEND the MAIN MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen, supported by
Commissioner Schneider that the request of Henry Faber for the lot division of
unplatted property be tabled,
MOTION TO AMEND FAILED (2--4-0) (Chairman Kroskin, Commissioners
Davenoorb; Erickson and Threinen
opposing) FAILED
MAIN MOTION CARRIED All in favor CARRIE=D
A-903 WELCOME COMMUNITY HOME, INC. AA --5 Renewal - Cond tionai Use Permit
Mr. ,Dillerud introduced 'this request for renewal of a Conditional. Use Permit to
continue operation of a groin home for 12 retarded children at St.: Mary's of theLakeChurch, Ridgemount Avenue and Forestvi'ew Game,
William Koski, 13415 County Road 15, was present to represent the petitioner. He
s5ledcurrently they have 12 children at the home,
MOTION was made by Commissioner Erickson supported by Commissioner Threinen that
the Planning Commission make the following recowmendation to the City Councilor
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That the request of Welcome Community Home, Inc. for a Conditional Use Permit to
operate a group home for retarded children at 115 North-Forestview Lane be approved,
subject to the condition that the Conditional Use Permit be reviewed on an annual
basis and no more than 16 children be heiised at the facility without further review,
MOTION CARRIED All in favor CARRIED
This concluded the New Business at 8:30 p.m.
Old! Zusiness
15,... ET C.y Il1C. Final Plat - "Medicine Ridge
Concentrating on the compliance of the Final Piet with conditions attached ,by CityCouncilApprovalthereoffoundinResolution73-461. Staff noted that all
conditions were met on the latest version of the Final Plat except that of
alternative access to Lots 2 thru 6, Block 2,. Staff further noted that variances
pursuant to Section 10 of the Subdivision Ordinance regarding frontage at setback
lines for Lots 5, 10 and 11, Block 1, and Lot. 14, Block 2, were required for the
plat and reco mended by Staff. These variances would atY;dnt to four feet each.
Dick Sather, McCombs -Knutson Associates, Inc., representing the developer,suggested
that turn arounds or joint driveways for the Lots 2 thru 6,, Block 2 could
be provided for in the Development Contract.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Erickson that the
Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council;
That the request of Etoc, Inc. for approval of the Final Plat of "Medicine Ridge"
dated October 2, 1974 be approved subject to the condition that turn around drives
on Lots 2 thru 6, Block 2 be stipulated in the Development Contract, and that a
variance be granted: for Lots 5, 10 and 11., Block 1 and Lot 14, Block 2.
MOTION CARRIED All in favor CARRIED
Donald Maxwell, again representing AMLAC, commented thatt they were pleased to see
this land: develop as presented, but did Stant to bring the Commissioners attention
to the fact that it w111 aggravate and generate the sane: kind of traffic problem
on Pilgrim Lane that now exists on South Shore Drive and outlined the anticipated
problem.
A -29T LOU-PAR9 Co -=Partnership. Daniel F. and Louisa A.
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Lot Division - Unplatted Property
Chairman Kroskin explained that this was a carryover item from the last meetingltoalloy, time to check with the City Attorney in an effort to determine the date
the regulations went into effect and whether or not this division could be made
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under the regulations in existence at that time.. Staffreviewed the proposalbriefly, noting that City Attorney Lefler had been contacted and the letter express - Ing his opinion had boen given to the Commissioners,
Daniel F,, Otten, 1820 Winnetka Avenue North, was present, stated he had read theStafs -r report, and in correction,stated the 1.35 acre parcel: was originally a partofa37.5 acre parcel. He then presented a contract for deed to CommissionerDavenport, who confirmed that this document was dated February 20, 1959 and filedwithHennepinCountyonMarch4, 1969. Mr. Dillerud informed. the CommissionersthatocontractdateofSeptember20, 1959 was reflected in the Minutes of the
previous meeting and that. Mr, Lefler's opinion would need review in light of thereviseddatefromMr. Otten',
Commissioners' comments surrounded the following points
1) This was poor land planning,
2) Staff should recheck with the City Attorney relating this earlier date of thesaletodetermineifagrandfatherrightsexist.
3) What is the City's responsibility/action towards someone who has taken action
not in accordance with the law several years ago and now finds it necessarytoasktheCitytoratifyittoclearrecords.
MOTION ..-tas made by Commissioner Threinen supported' by Commissioner Davenport that
the PIanning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council;
That th- request of Daniel F. Ott:en for Subdivision Waiver to detach a 1.35 acre
parcel from 37.5 acres at Highways 55 and 101 (northwest quadrant.) be denied forthefollowingreasons:
1) Proposal is inconsistent` with proper and accepted platting policy,
2) Proposal is inconsistent; with Goal D, Objective No. 2, Criteria 1 and 2 of
the Plymouth's Goals, Objectives and Criteria as adopted by the Village
Council February 7, 1972, This is in respect to development action prior toservicebymunicipalutilities,
3) Proposal is inconsistent with r ghteof-way recommendations, of the PlymouthThoroughfarePlanadoptedbytheCityCouncil, February 28, 1972. This is
in respect to intersection requirements at Highways 101 and 55,
4) 1t is in violation of the Subdivision Regulations.
MOTION CARRIED All in favor CARRIED
Commissioners commented that if the City Attorney does find Mr. Otten has a right., thru a grandfather clause, Planning Commission would recommend approval eventhoughitisbadlandplanning.
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Old: Business was completed at 4;10 p.m.
Reports of Officers,, Boards and Committees:
innesotassociatfon_ PFl anners Dues
Mr. billerud explained the regulations on membership in this organization and the
dues required for the various categories. three specifically -named members for25individualmembershipis $10,
Commissioners decided that three members would be designated, the $25 fee to be
paid, with copies of the newsletter to be made and distributed to the other four
members. Mr. Dillerud will be ,covered with an individual membership. The three
Commissioners designated were James Threinen, David Davenport and Delano Erickson.
Minutes of the Planning Commission Meeting of September 18, 1974 were presented
for approval.
MOTION iTas made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Erickson that
the minutes of the Planning Commission Meeting of September 18, 19744 be approved.
MOTION CARRIED (4-0--2) (Chairman Kroskin and Commissioner Hagen abstaining)
0 CARRIED
Chairman Kroskin questioned the absence of Assistant Planner Milton Dale and
requested that he be presert in the future to answer questions and help guide
the Commissioners in the consideration of those petitions he has looked into.
Chairman Kroskin objected to the way the agenda was presented for tonight's meeting,
and insisted that in the future it be presented in the booklet -type format that we
have been using.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Threinen that the
meeting be adjourned.
Meeting was adjourned at 9.25 p.m.
Approved by Planning Commission October 16, 1974.
Reg :Kroskin, Chairman
Pl outh Tanning C 'ssion
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