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PLANNING COMMISSION
CITY OF PLYM00TH, MINNESOTA
September, 4, 1974
A regular meeting of the Plymouth Planning Gomm i s s i on was called to order byChairmanKrosk.i n at 7:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers of the Public MarksBu_lding, 14900 23rd Avenue North..
MEMBERS PRESENT. Chairman Kroskin, Commissioners Schneider, Davenport,
Erickson, Hagen, Stewart and. Threinen.
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
STAFF PRESENT. Charles E. Dillerud, Milton Dale, Sherman Goldberg, and
Agatha Mortenson,
OTHERS PRESENT: Councilman: Neils,,.
Chairman:ikroskin opened: the Public Hearing at 7:30 p.m,
EINH RD BROTHERS CO. Rezoning & Preliminary Plat
Reinhard Industrial Park"
Public Hearing discussion of the Proposed Preliminary Plat and Rezoning involvingCommissioners, Petitioner's Representatives and Staff covered the following points:
1) Future access across: the southerly portion of Lot 6 foto a development onLot5. As this was neither a zoning nor plat issue, discussion was continued
until formal Site Plan submission,
2} Extension of proposed Hope Avenue easterly to property line.. Staff reviewed
the undesirability of introducing industrial traffic: into areas to the east
now guided residential and recoWiended Hope Avenue design as ftpict?d ontheplat,
Donald Anderson, Programmed Land, was present, and: stated they were the owners
of the property involved and wanted to be put on record as being in favor oftheproposeduseoftheland.
There being no others pr.,sent in the audience to speak for or against theproposal,
Chairman Kroskin closed the Public Hearing at 7:50 p.m.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen, supported by Commissioner Steart to
act on this request at this time;
MOTION CARRIED All in favor CARRIED
Additional items discussed fol_low%g the hearing included
1) The inconsistency of the street name "Hope Avenue" with the City street naming' policy, .It was suggested: that 1112th Avenue" would be the appropriate name.
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2) The deletion from the plat of a triangular piece of land proposed for rezoning. Petitioner's representative stated the exception's purpose was for future
trackage to the platted, lots, Staff confirmed the inclusion of the exception
in the notice of rezoning and recommended inclusion of the exception in the
proposed plat.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threlnen supported by Commissioner Stewart that
the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the. City Council.-
That
ouncil.
That the request of Reinhard Brothers, Inc, for rezoning for 2,2 acres from
R -O to 1--1 be granted as identified by plat dated duly 9, 1974„
MQTIQh CARRIED All in favor CARRIED
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Stewart that
the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council
That the Preliminary Pkat of "Reinhard Industrial Park" be amended to include
that triangular shaped parcel for railroad spur as described by Planning Deart-
ment Records dated September 40 1974 (File A-285); and that the request of
Reinhard 8rothers,lnc. for approval of the Preliminary Plat for "Reinhard
Industrial Park" dated July 24, 1974 as amended be approved, subject to the
following conditions:
1) No private drive access be permitted onto County Road 51,
2)Before. development commences on this project, a Final Plat ,0th Development
Contract must be approved by the City Council
B) Utility easements as recommended by the City :Engineer be made a part of this
recommendation.
4) That YHope Avenue" should be changed to "12th Avenue" to conform to the
street naming ordinance.
MOTION CARRIED All in favor CARRIED
1'91 DR. IRVINO HERMAN A-1.91 Site Plan _Approval'
Stiff presented the Site Plan for construction of two garage structures providing
40 enclosed parking spaces for the 24 -unit project,,
Mr, Phillip Olson, Olson Concrete Co., 5010 Hillsboro Lane, representing Dr,_ Herman,
was present in support of the proposal',
Plan considerations discussed: by petitioner, Commission and :Staff included;
1) Limited space between garage structure and apartmert structures may create
vehicle maneuvering problems.
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2) Extensive land coverage ratio and reduced living; space with new structures.
3) Suitability of garage space for refuse storage.
4)Likelihood of increased project congestion with garages used for storage of
other items and vehicles. remaining outdoors,
MOTION was made by Commissioner Stewart supported by Commissioner Schneider that
the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council:
That the request of Dr. Irving Herman for Site Plan approval for addition of
two garage structures dated August 23, 1974 be approved, subject to the follow-
ing conditions:
1) medication of 8 feet of right-of-way along 12th Avenue North to provide
for future location thoroughfare right-of-way requirements as per the
Adopted Thoroughfare Guide Plan.
2) No outside storage of waste and garbage and one stall in the garage to be
used for this purpose..
MOTION CARRIED (6-1-0) (Commissioner Erickson opposing) CARRIED
Commissioner Erickson stated he was opposed to the enfringement of the front yard
space for the dwelling units that will be facing the proposed garage structures,
and also questioned the number ofgarages being requested, i.e. 40 stalls for 24
apartment units.
96 DERRY -ANN HE A-Conditional Use Permit.
Staff introduced the petitioner's request for a Conditional Use Permit to operate
a day care center in a church structure, with the petitioner establishing her
residence in the basement of the structure. The religious organization that was
housed in this structure has since moved its operation and services to another
location;
Mrs. Gerry Herman, 3033 Toledo Avenue South, appeared on her own behalf in support
of the proposal.
Considerations discussed by the petitioner, Commission and Staff included;
1) Petitioner's stated need for the facility but her lack of market studies,
past experience and alternative sites.
2) Petitioner's plan to purchase the subject property with a lease of additional.
land, from the City of Minneapolis.
3) The status of the subject property as a "church" with the discontinuance of
religious activities.
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4) Problems presented by petitioner's proposal for parking by way of vehiclesbackingontoHighway6
5) The .existing single family character of the neighborhood and the existence
of other day care centers in the neighborhood
6) The; generally heavy traffic conditions adjoining the proposed day care
center,-
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported; by ComMissiotter Erickson than;:
the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council;
That the request of Gerry Ann Herman for a. Conditional Use Permit to operate a,
Day Care Center in the Parkers Lake Baptist Church at County Road '6 and Niagara
Lane for not more than 20. children be approved, subject to the followingconditione-;
1) A Site Plan indicating the use of the basement, the parking lot and: playground
recommendations be approved.
2) This pprmit be granted for a one-year period,
MOTION FAILED (3-4-0) (Commissioners Davenport, Hagen, Stewart,
and Chairman Kroskin opposing) FAILED
A --586--S. J. GROVES & SONS CO. A-586 Site Plan Approval
Staff introduced the. Site Plan for a four-story office building on a six acre
site noting the following unreselved problems:
1) Stora water ponding plans were not as yet approved by Bassett Creel: WatershedDistrict. Staff indicated that the site would be altered to meet with
ponding requirements as soon as recommendations were available,
21 Potential congestion and safety problems appear at the DeVac access to
Highway 55 with the introduction of traffic, from the subject project.
Richard Skerik, representing the petitioner, indicated that storm water, plansV-5uld`Tiereviewed by Bassett Creek during September and that the petitioner
anticipated only office traffic to use the Highway 55 access.. He further
indicated the petitioner's will;ngness to cooperate in a future solution to the
traffic problem.
MOTION was made by Commissioner 'Hagen supported by Commissioner Stewart: that:
the Planning Commission Make the following recommendation to the City Council.,
That the request of Su J Groves and Sons Co for approval of a Site Plan dated
August 23, 1974 be approved, subject to the following conditions:
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1) ReComendati ons of the Park and Recreation Advisory Coaimissi on be made a
part of this recommendation. A cash donation to the ParR Dedication Fund
Woui d amount toS,;Q50 ($500 x 6.1 acres).
2) Landscaping bond be posted and a completion, date set prior to issuance of a
building permit.
3) Subject to the approval of the Bassett Creek Watershed District.
and..
That Uo reque:-t of S. J. Groves and Sons`Co. for a Conditional Use Permit to
allow a building of 64 'feet be approved.
MOTION CARRIED All in favor CARRIED
Commissioners and Staff then discussed the future traffic problem at the DeVac
access to Highway 55. Potentialsolutions discussed included:
1) One way traffic pattern on the :service drive with entrance only at the DeVac
access. 'Fxit would be onto County Road 18 at 10th Avenue,
closing the
the
access),
s erly for access at South Shore Drive2jExtension. ofthee service drive wa
3) Access northerly to the proposed 10tti 11wenue extension to South Shore DRive
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Erickson that
the Planning Commission make the following recommenda i on to the City Council:
That a study be -nage of the development of access/egress traffic pattern that is
less hazardous than the one that ,will exist upon completion of the structure at
the S. J. Gmve.s and Sons Gs site, with serious consideration being given to
the: north and east to the service road; or a service road out towards the frontage
road .on Highway 55 or ,access onto South Shore Drive.
MOTION CARRIED All in, favor CARRIED
LJ P iHYY OIL 147— Division of unplatted Lot
Staff reviewed the .proposal highlighting the extensive :history involving the
parcel and the change in conditions since 1979 substantiating the affirmative
Staff reLommenda.tion for the requested' Sube`,ivision Waiver.
Clarence Dillman, 4600 W. 77th Street, Edina, was; present representing; the
interests of the Murphy 011 Co. Mr. Dillman indicated that Murphy Oil had no
firm plans for their property upon division but had previously receivod interest
in the parcel' from a firm of the same type as Uncle John's
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Additional items discussea by Mr. Dillman, Commissioners and Staff involved:
1) prior ,and dedication by Murphy Oil to the City and the land required by theCityfromthesubjectparcel(s) to accomplish the Annapolis to XeniumServiceDrive. Mr, Dillman indicated no objection to service drive right-of-
way dedication and additional Xenium Lane dedication as a condition: of
Subdivision Waiver. He did state that he could make no committments forMr. Jones (Parcel B), Staff indicated -hat they understood arrangements
for service drive right--of-way acquisition were being made administratively.
2) How the tract divisirn could have been registered with the County as
represented by Murphy) ri'thout prior City approval
3) The relationship of 26th Avenue and 24th Avenue to the Service Drive Project.
Staff indicated that 24th Avenue does intersect Xenium but that the Service
Drive Project is also necessary to facilitate the,vacation of the improper
Annapolis Lane/Highway 55 intersection,
MOTION was made by Commissioner ThrAinen supported' by Commissioner Hagen that the
Planning; commission make the following recommendation to the City Council:
That the request of Murphy Oil Company for a lot division and a variance to lot
area requirements in an I-1 District he approved, subject to the dedication for
a right-of-way of 30 feet on the west, 35 feet on the south side and 7 additional
feet on the southeast corner.
MOTION CARRIED (6 1-0) (Chairman Kroskin opposing) CARRIED
RLS( C PANIES, IN A-215 Final plat - "Carlson
Companies Addition"
This is the final plat of this area, Berkshire Lane was vacate and _tTe road wasmovedfurthereast, The alignment of Xenium Lane with County Road 15 is as was
agreed upon. Petitioner has, changed the name from "Minneapolis Industrial Park
Third Addition" to "Carlson Companies Addition". These are the only changes from
the Preliminary Plat presented at the July 17 1974 meeting,
Mr. Rick Sather, McCombs -Knutson, was present, representing the petitioner.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen, supported by Commissioner Erickson that
the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council;
That the ,Pinar Plat of "'Carlson Companies Addition" dated August 2.8, 1974 be
approved, subject to charging the name "Hope Avenue to whatever street name
conforms to the policy.
MOTION CARRIED= (6--0-1) (Commissioner Threinen abstaining) CARRIED
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X23 HAND ER -TOPIC, INC. A-523 Final Play` - "hemlock
Lane Addition;
Staff presented the Final Plat, identified the location oti the map. 60th AvenueNorthis $0 feet wide at this time, petitioner is dedicating an additionaT 30feetwiththecul-de-sac into they area south, rearranging the four lots and align-
ing them east and west,
um Ruone, Chandler -Topic, Inc., was present, confirmed that the cul-de-sac does
enc ann extend into the property south of this area, to provide access for that
property to 60th Avenue other than County Road 10, as requested by the City Council.
Commissioner Hagen agreed with this thinking as. the City probably would not Want
another access onto County Road 10 only 300 feet from Hemlock Lane, thus givingtwoaccessesclosetogether, Staff explained that when this landdirectly south
of "Hemlock Lane. Addition', is developed, the dedication of the rest of the cul-de-
sac will be required to prevent landlocking a part of this area. Staff assurred
the Commissioners this area was sufficient for the lots, and they did not want to
require additional land than, necessary because of the amount of available buildablelandintheareaCommissionerswereconcernedthatthismightresultinasituation
similar to the one found with "Greentree West". Councilman Neils explained; the
Council's feelings concerning the steep grade for the street as was originally
proposed on the preliminary plat. They were not so much concerned with: the lots to
the south but: more concerned about the land east. The Councilman were also
desirous of contining the same street pattern policy already established.
Commissioner Stewart questioned the approval of a subdi`vi.sion where sewer and.
water is not available contrary to the City policy. Staff indicated that this
Was already platted property and was a rearrangement of the lots.
Commissioner Stewart wondered if we should be asking for street dedication on the
south side at this time. Councilman Neils confirmed that their plans were to have
a street go thru from the cul-de-sac 'but he did not recall that this Was a
stipulation.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Scbneid(r supported by Comrissioner Erickson that
the Planning Commissi-on make tl,e follulging recommendation to the City Council:
That the, Final Plat of "Hemlock Lane, Ad'ditjtan" dated August 16, 1974 be approved..
Commissioner Stewart expressed concern about the property to the east becoming landr- locked. Staff suggested that this matter could be checked before the item goes to
the. Council.
AMENDMENT was made by Commissioner Stewart supported by Chairman Kroskin that a
street right-of-way consistent with the study of the :top,ography by the City
Engineer be deidcated along Lot I.., D1ock 2, "Hemlock term Addition",
Further discussion was held regarding whether this dedication should be requested
inasmuch as the developer was, coming back with the changes requested by the Council,
after which the amendment was withdrawn.
h10TION CARRIED (S -D-2; kuommissioners Hagen and Threinen abstaining) CARRIED
Commissioner Threnen objected to bringing up as Old Business items that have
been. changed.
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A-242 ECKLUND & SWEDLUND HOME BUILDERS A-212 Final Plat - "Imperial
Hills 6th Addition"
Staff presented the Final Plat commenting that the only change from the Prelim-
inary Plat previously approved was in the name "Queensland .}.ane" to "24th Avenue".
Rick Sather, McCombs -Knutson, was in the audience, representing the petitioner.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Erickson supported by Commissioner Stewart that.
the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council
That the Final Plat of "Imperial Hills 6th Addition" dated September 4, 1974 be
approved as presented;
MOTION CARRIED All in favor CARRIED
A-_ Gi NORTHERN FEDERAWINGS A=266 Site Plan Amendment
Merri nac Estates
Staff introduced the proposal of Northern Federal Savings for the amendment of
the previously approved "Merrimac Estates" Site Plan to enclose the pool area.
Staff noted that this project hadd recently been taken over by Northern Federal
after the previous owners experienced difficulty in completion. Staff assured
Commissioners that the project was now moving toward completion in an orderly
fashion as to the apartment structures, but that Northern Federal did not plan
to begin the toloPhouses this season.
Staff reportedthat the pool enclosure proposal appeared reasonable in all
respects and recommended approval by the Commissiot.
rn response to Chairman. Kroskin's quaestion, Mr. Greg Nyquist of Northern Federal
indicated that there would be some difficulty in sodding the area not to be used
for townhouses, but that the developer would restore the area in some fashion until
townhouses were to be constructed,
Mr. Nyquist asked if a proposal for tunnels between the apartment building and
the underground parking could be considered at this time. Chaitman,Kroskin
ind.i:cated; that the Staff would first have to review the proposal;
MOTION was ,made by Commissioner Hagen supperted by Commissioner Erickson that the
Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council;
That the request of Northern Federal. Savings for an amendment to the Site Plan of
Merrimac Estates" dated September 4, 1974, specifically Buildings 3 and 6, be
approved;,
MOTION CARRIED. (5'-0-2) (Commissioners Schneider and Davenport abstaining)
CARRIED
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Old Business was concluded at 9;45 p.m.
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REPORTS. -
A -585,
EPORTS.
A-58 CITY QF PLYMOUTH A-589 Subdivision Waver Water Tower
Site a Zachary Lane and 45th
Avenue North
Stiaff reported that they selected this site; based partlal ly on the trees wn'ich
can be used to screen the legs of the. tower. Another tower will also ue con-
structed nn this site later, of Z million gallon capacity, for a total of 5z million
gallon capacity., One will be at ground level. The height of the site was another
prime consideration for this selection City could have a 60 foot right-of-wayandstillleaveroomforalotthatwouldconformtotheminimumof1.8,5uosgtjarefeet. Some discussion was had on what Commissioners felt was poor ,planningconcerningtheuse: of this lot.
A-386 NORTHWESTERN BELL TEL PNOKE A-386 Microwave Tower Site
Xr. Bob Peterson, Northw stern Bell Telephone Co., had stopped at the office and
left a piece of meal shcwing , its appea;ranoe after it has been oxydized by
nature This was of the same material used in the microwave tower. It will be
very, very dark brown and will take approximately three years. There will be no
strobes on the tower but they will have a beacon and three lights on top asrequiredbyF.A.A. regulations.
C.I.P. Projects
Staff brought up the C.I.P., procedure and suggested that as the year progresses,
items that should be presentvd to the Council for inclusion in the.C.I.P., could
be kept on a list. He suggested this list could begin with the item of the
service road for Highway 55 at the S, J. Groves and Sons Co. site. Coranission.ers
thought this Was a goodidea.
Minutes of the Planning Commission Meeting of August 21, 1974 were presented.
Chairman Kroskin asked that the following corrections be made: On Page 4, he
meant that the Ordinance change should not be forwarded to the City Council, and
also on the same page discussion Quorums, he asked; the words. "should be willingtoredgn" be changed to "should consider resigning"
MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Davenport that
the Minutes of she Planninq Commission Meeting of August 21, 1974 be approved
as amended.
MOTION CARRIED (5-0-2) (Commissioners Stewart and Threinen abstaining) CARRIED
I'MOTION was made by Comdssioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Stewart that Ithemeetingbeadjourned.
Meeting was adjourned at 104.15 p.m,
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APPROVEP BY PLANNING COMMISSION September 18, 1974.
Reg Krosk n, Chairman
Plymouth Planning Commission
ares E.b- Nrud Secretary