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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 08-07-1974PLANNING COMMISSION' CITY Oi'' PLYMOUTH4 MINNESOTA August 7, 1974 An informal meeting of the Plymouth Planning Commission was called to orderbyChairmanKroskinat7:40 p.m.,August 7, 1974 in the Council Chambers ofthePublicWorksBuilding, 14900. 23rd Avenue North. A quorum was not Present so an official meeting could not be held MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Kroskin, Co mniss oners Schneiders and Hagen. MEMBERS ABSENT; Corlmi"sioners Erickson, Davenport, Stewart and Thre- nen. STAFF PRESENT, John Bergly, Consulting Planner, Mi'.ton Dale, and Agatha Mortenson OTHERS PIAESENT; tic:i 1 reund, Y A.A.0 Advisor With only three members present, Chairmah Kroskin explained to the audience that the public hearing item would be delayed a short period of time in expectation of the arrival of one of the commissioners, which would then give them a quorum and official Planning Commission action could be taken. In the meantime, Chairman Kroskin asked John 3ergly to report the action that was taken on the Public Hearing items refarred to the Council from the PlanningCommission's informal meeting held on. Jul,17th, 1974. A- 15 C R SON COMPANIES,INC. A-215 Rezoning and Preliminary Plat Minneapolis Industrial Park 3rd Addition" Mr. John Bergly reported that McCombs -Knutson gave a presentation. Their, engineers had worked out three possible alignments of County Road 61 (Xerium Lane) after the Planning Commission Meeting of July 17th. The one the Council chose came close. to what the Staff had proposed. The objec+ of concern were the homes in the area adjoining tris property. Mr. Pergly pointed out the location of the three proposed alignments and identified the one selected by the Council, Carlson Properties does own most of the land that will be taken for County Road 61. Therearetwohomesthatwillhavetobetaken, but this was the least number involvedinallthreeproposals, Mr. Milton pale explainedthat.petitioner's objection to Staff's proposed route was a matter of., economics it would segregate more of their land away from the industrial use and this land is valuable. The small area the petitionerhad asked to be rezoned to Industrial was approved as requested. The Council approved the -plat as shown with the alignment just described and the rezoning as petitioner requested. 0 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES - 2 - August 7, 1974 CI H 7-:' Amendment to Zbnina Ordinance Public Tearing was unofficially opened at 7:40 p.m. Mr. Bergly introduced this request for an amendment to the Zoning Ordinance to allow a watchman's quarters ir, a B-3 District by Conditional Use Permit. This is considered an accessory use in many communities, The Council has previouslyamendedtheZoninq° Ordinance to allow sush use in an Industrial District by Conditional Use Permit. Mr. Lefler, City Attorney, felt that in order to be con- sistent, a similar ren44est for another distfict should follow the same precedent, i.e. an amodment shc,,, ` be approved to the Zoning 0rdinance to allow t4iis use by Conditional Use Permit - In the new proposed Zoninq Ordinance currently under consideration and review,, this use is listed as a permitted use or Conditional Use Permit in both business and industrial districts. Commissioner Hagen brought out the question of how to control the "residential" feature, what would you do about providing the needs of family and children if someone comes in for such a request who had a large fti ly, how, would you provide the needed green .area, etc, He suggested one way might be to limit the size of the quarters to one or two bedrooms, if this would not be posing a problem of discrimination Chairman Kroskin brought up the question of minimal facilities to possibly help ward off the "Ma and Pa Grocery Store" type of development, The question arose Of whether there is a need for security or is it more a matter of economics or convenience of the owners. Chairman Kroskin felt "residential structures" should be more definitive, worded as suggested it could mean separate buildings. Mr. 'ale offered the following be substituted - "residential quarters when attached to the principle structure" Chairman Kroskin wanted to know iohat was meant by ''related uses" Mr. Bergly explained that this was the same wordage used in the adoption of a similar reques, in an I-1 District. Chairman Kroskin commented that in an I-1 District, the requests usually are in connection with large: plants but in a B-3 District, the businesses are usually small and again: expressed the concern that it could lead to residences coming in, thereby turning the area into a combination business/ housing area for the convenience of the owners of the businesq rather than a pt i cipl=e need for safety and security of the business itself:, The Commissioners felt concern over the need to provide a green strip neeessaly for residential use and wondered how this could, be provided in a business district where needs for parking and paved areas are great.Mr. tale and Mr.. Bergly explained they were thinking in terms of fire control, engineering problems, boil-rs, etc, when they-onsidered' the ,"safety reasons" Mr. Bergly suggested possibly dropping the word "residential", thereby not implying that it would be used for living, quarters, Commissioner Hagen suggested limiting the size of the quarters by stipulating efficiency or one -bedroom residential quarters necessary for safety and security reasons. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINO MINUTES 3 - August 7, ;x.974o Public Hearing wa opened at 8:05 P.m. by Chairman Kroskin even though a quorum would not be reached, but any recommendations or action by the members would be forwarded on to the City Council, Chairman Kroskin informed the audience that the City had received a request for watchman's quarters in a, business district but the concern of the Commissioners j already expressed was that they did want to provide this service if the need existed but did not t'ant to make it attractive for family living.Mr. Ralph Rutledge, 14Q7 South 7th Street, Hopkins, was in the audience to represent thepeE.ioner He had no comments or questions at this time but would be avail- able for questions from the Commissioners. He stated the quarters would be occupied by a husband and wife and no children., Publfc Hearing was closed at 8:10 p.m, MOTION was made by Comni'ssioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Schneider that the Planning co maission make the •Following recommendation to the City Council That an amendmentto the Zoning Ordinance, Section 13, Subdivision 3, to allow by Condii:ional Use hermit in a B-3 District the addition of item 20 as follows: 20, Efficiency and/or one -bedroom residential quarters necessary for security and safety reasons in relation to a principle use,"' be approved. MOTION CARRIED All in favor MOTION CARRIED 9-576 KUSTO.i TOOL AND DIE A -S6 Conditional Use Permit Mr.. John Bergl'y introduced this request, which relates back, to the Amendment to the Zoning Ordinance they had just, recommended for approval. Mr. Berglyidentifiedthelocation, which is just three or four lots down from 36th Avenue, North intersection with Kilmer Lane on the west side, just about opposite from where 35th Avenue Horth comes into Kilmer Lane from the east. Using the plat, he showed the existing building as it is now, which meets the setback requirements. They are aski g for a permit to construct a two-story building above the corner of the building at the back and also an extension to include a single car garage to be used by the watchman, He stated they did not include the dimensions of the rroms on the plans, only the outer perimeter dimensions which indicates quite a large area would be used for residential quarters.. The `crack of this property faces onto the school's property. The business is a tool and die making operation, employing 1Q to 15 people. It was explained to the Commission members that Mr. Rice, who owns and operates the business, recently purchased the land from Ralph Rutledge, bu.t could not be present at this time because of the illness of his wife ter.. Rutledge knew the operation and could speak for Mr. Rice,. Commissioners expressed the desire to visit with the petitioner himself to determine if there is a real need for security In this area, as they did not want to encourage or invite a "Ma and Pa Grocery Store" type of housing in a service area, and Mr. Rutledge was unable to answertheCommissionersquestions. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES - 4 - August 7, 1974S MOTION was made by Commissioner Schneider supported bChairman Kroskin that the :request of Mager E, Rice (Kustom Tool and Die: CO._', for a Conditional Use Permit to allow a watchman's quarters in a 8i3 District at 3435 Kilmer Lane be deferred until the petitioner/owner of the premises can make an appearance before the Planning Commission. MOTION CARRIED All in favor MOTION CARRIED 367 CAROL A4 BRc1Cw1AN' --367 Renewal Conditional Use Permit Mr, Bergly stated that the petitioner is requesting renewal of her permit to operate a beauty shop in the basem of her home at 4055 Glacier Lane, which was originally granted to her on March 6, 1972 and renewed on August 6, 1973 by Council action. Staff had contacted two of the neighbors and they had no complaints whatsoever and no problems. The Police Department has no violations or problems on record in their files against this operation. Staff recommends approval of the renewal of this permit. Corms Assioner 'Schneider questioned the petitioner about :a sign but petitioner stated she had no signs posted and felt she did not need a sign, Chairman Kroskin asked about the number of customers she had to which Mrs. Broman rep;iec she only works on Thursdays and Fridays, she can handle no more th-n two 1adrp- at a time and there. wou'l'd be no more than two cars in the drive at one time,. MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Schneider that the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council: That the request of Carol A., Sroman for a Conditional Use Permit to operate a beauty shop in her, home be approved subject to the following Gond i t7 ons 1) That the Conditional Use Permit be reviewed on an annual basis, 2) That the beauty shop operation be limited to one beauty operator, i.e. the petitioner, 3), That no signs be permitted on the exterior of the building, MOTION CARRIED All in favor MOTION CARRIED W T PETERSON T-584 Site Plan Review Mr. Milton Dale presented this request, stating this site is located in the Circle Star Business Center". Preliminary Plat has b_een approved and the f inal Plat for this development, is on the agenda under Old Business to be reviewed later, in the evening Watt/Peterson would be constructing a building on what will be Lot 10, Block 2, Of this Center and pointed out the location on the proposed Ficial Plat, The plan does: conform with the Ordinance in all respects except the setback for the sign, and petitioner has since agreed to placing the sign on the building surface itself a:nd thereby comply with the sign ordinance. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING h4INUTES - 5 - August 7, 1974 Mr. Ron Ryan, Rauenhorst Corp., representing the et` p p g e p tioner, stated the owner would 3i e to have a small sign bltt with. two 50 foot setbacks, they could find no place that was suitable to put the sign and were requesting guidance from the Planning Commission. The petitioner felt that a small sign located in the setback would be more advantageous tothe property and to the owner than a sign ort the front of the building itself. After a brief discussion in which it was brought,out that the: sign on the neighboring property of Tescom and other lots inMIPdomeetthesignrequirements, the Commissioners expressed the feeling thattheyworldprefertostickwiththeordinanceandnotgrantavariance. Chairman Kroskin also pointed out that this lot in question is on the corner and the safety factor of possible obstruction of view would have to beconsidered also. Mr. Ryan; started they had read the: Staff Report and concurred with it in its entirety. MOTION was made t;y Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Hagen that the: Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council That the request of Matt/Peterson for 'approval of a Site Plan dated July 16, 1974begranted, subject to the following conditions; 1) Recommendations of the Fire Chief relative to the placement of fire lanes and fire hydrants be a part of this recommendation, 2) All storage of waste, garbage and materials be within the building, 3) Recommendations of the Parks and Recreation Advisory Commission be made a part of this recommendation, i.e, cash payment would amount to $1,100 500 x 2..2 acres). 4) Landscaping bond be posted and a completion date sat prior to any building permit being issued, 5) Recommendations of the City Engineer relative to storm drainage be made a part of this recommendation. 6) Approval of the Final Plat for "Circle Star Business Center 2nd Addition". 7) That no variance in the 50 foot setback for a sign be allowed. MOTION CARRIED All In favor MOTION CARRIED Site Plan Review and Conditional Use Permit Mr. John Berg`i.,, nresented this request, which was presented to the Planning Commission very riefly at their July :17th mee4ing but was deferred until such time as Rauenhor- :, Corp. had approval of the r~inal Plat for '"Circle Star Business Center 2nd Additi,.~" in which this site was located. Rauenhorst has noi, p esentedtheirFinalPlat, .'1ch will be acted on later in the meeting, and the site tender consideration is Loi: 8, Block 2, and adjoins the property for which site plan was PLANNING COMW$SION MEETING MINUTES August 7, 1974 just approved for Watt/Peterson. Mr. Dale brought out that two of the concerns expressed at the July 17th meeting when this was considered were landscapingandaparkingdeficiencywhichseemedtobeapparent, Petitioners kava made some provisions for additional parking but would like to maintain it as a green strip and not pave it until such time as it would be needed. This is located on the northwest corner of the site. Presently whey have only 14 or 1,'5 employees and it does not appear they will need' this additional parking atthistime, Mr. Dale stated petitioners called this date and requested that they be allowedtomaintainthedriveatthesouthwestcornerofthesiteas "exit only". Thetruckswouldcomeinonthesoutheastcorner, go thru the building, and out onto27thatthesouthwestcorner . Staff felt this was agreeable in terms of cir- culation. There would be both entrance and exit on the drive at the southeast' corner but the trucks would go into the building where there is inside loading and out the west side of the buildingout onto 27th Avenue North, Mr. Pat Cannon, AmCon Corp., representing the petitioner, stated this was their orifi conc=ern. They would have inside loading and felt this was no problem. Unloading will also be handled inside the building. Mr. Dare mentioned that the landscaping plan was simmewhat revised but Staff felt there was need for additional landscaping. Commissioners felt it appeared tobeonlyminimal, that more was needed in the front yard, and that the land not used should be grass. Mr. Gannon agreed to provide more landscaping, which Chairman Kroskin stated should meet Staffs approval, MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Schneider that the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council: That the request of Chase Metal Co, for a Site Plan Approval and a Conditional Use Permit to operate a processing plant in an 1-1 District be approved, subject to the following conditions. 1) Approval of the Final Plat, for "Circle Star Business Center 2nd Addition". 2) All storage of wase, garbage and materials be within the building. O)The east drive will be two-way and the wast drive will be "out only" onto. 27th Avenue, 4) Additional landscape materials be provided along the southwest side of the building subject to Staff's approval, and a landsc6pe bond be ;posted with a completion date established prior to the issuance of,a building permit, 5)` Additional' area for parking be reserved on the: north and west side of the building and to be hard -surfaced as needed, Rec:=mendations of the Fire Chief relative to placement of fire lanes and fire hydrants -be a part of this recommendation. I i MW PLANNING CCMMTSSIOiN MEETING INUTES - 7 - ;August 7, 1974 7) Recommendations of the City Engineer relative to storm dvaanage be a part of this recommendation. B) Recommendations of the Parks and Recreation Advisory 0r,anission be made a part, of this recommendation, i.e. a cash payment 'would amount to 1,946 ($500 x 3,39 acres). MOTION CARRIED All in favor MOTION CARRI8D Ar -'1 1 AUE-QRST CARP Final Plat - "Circle Star Business Center 2nd Addition" Mr. Milton Dale informed the Commissioners that Rauenhorst .has now presented a Final Plat for "Circle Star Business Center 2nd Addition". There are a few revisions and it now conforms to the requirements of the City Engineer's Department. MOTIOt4 etas made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Schneider that the Planning Commission make the folio;Ming recommendation to the City Council: That the request of Rauenhorst Corporation for approval of the Final Plat for Circle Star Business Center 2nd Addition" he approved. O MOTION CARRIED All in favor MOTION CARRIED This concluded the Business pertion.of the meeting Chairman. Kroskin brought up the question of how to assure and maintain a quorum. After, failing to get a quorum at the last meeting, it had been decided to poll the members earlier, ir the week. This was done this time and looked favorable but last minute unforseeable events prevented ;two members from attending who had planned on being there. Both Commissioners Hagen and Schneider felt thea were ,,everal factors involved, such as the City Administration's delay in re- placing Mr. Overhi ser so Planning Commission Meetings were del>iyed,and also, it was suakmer and vacation time drawing some members out of town, but both +-repressed confid6nce that this probably would not happen again. The thought of possible adding more members to the Commissio.ti was expressed but discounted .as a possibility as the Planning Commisson previously had mono members and it was felt that this would only lead to the atti tode "the others will be there" and the member is apt to go about some other business that needed his attention also. They felt we, should just wait and see. Chairman Kroskin then directed the Staff to continue poling the members earlier, and he was going to ask the members to contact the Staff just as soot- as they knew they would be unable to .attend so other arrange-- meats could be, made if necessary. The Minutes for June 5, 1974 and dul•" 1.7, 1974 Meetings were deferred due to a lack of a quorum. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES 8 August 7, 1974 OTION was made by Comaissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Hagen toadjournthemeeting. Meet.ansq was adjourned at 9:15 p.m, APPROVED BY PLANN114 COMMISSION August 21, 1974 Reg Kroskin, Chairman Plymouth Planning Commission Milton Dale Planning and Community Development