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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 06-05-1974PLANNING COMMISSIOR' CITY OF PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA June 5, 1974 A regular meeting of the Plymouth Planning Commission was called to order byChairmanKroskinat7,40 p.m,. in the. Council Chambers of the Public WorksBuilding, 14500 -- 23rd. Avenue:. North. MEMBERS PRESENT; Chairman Kroskin Commissioners Schneider, Davenport, Erickson, Hagen, Stewart. and Threihv. MEMBERS ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT-, Martin Overhiser and Agatha Mortenson OTHERS PRESENT: John $ergly, Consulting Planner with Nason, Wehrmann, Chapman and Associates There was no representative from Youth Action Advisory Committee present. Chairman Kroskin called the meeting to order at 7.4" p,m. Chairman Kroskin opened the Public Hearings, with four itemis scheduled. He en- plained that the procedure would be to hold Public; Hearings Vollowed by PlanningCommissionactiononeachitemratherthanholdingPublicHearingsonallitemsbeforetakinganyPlanningCommissionaction, A-191 RAUENHURST CORP, A-191 Rezoning and General Development Plao and Prelim` nary Plat Planner Overhiser introduced this request for rezoning and also the request for aPreliminaryPlatapproval, gaps on the wall showed the. -General Development Plan and the Preliminary Plat indicating the various lots proposed in the Plat. This property was formerly approved for a Preliminary Plat as part of the Circle Star velopment. Some of the land has been zoned fort-3 (Service Business District) and 1-1 (Planned Industrial District) and some of the land is still zoned R-O. He pointed out on the map the zoning as it stands and how it was proposed for re- zoning, Staff was recommending that this be approved but their rain .con cern was whether or not the B-2 zoning was appropriate- for this area that is. presentlyzonedB--3 with the Guide Plan snowing it to be also B-3 (Service Business) area. Staff wondered if it was large enough to be considered a community shopping center or would it serve primarily as a service-retail area for the industrial and office complex that is developing at Highway 494 and 55. Even though some otif the property was rezoned to B-2 (Shopping Center District), it was contingent on the General Development Plan which was not carried out. Petitioners are pro- posing this as a neighborhood shopping centers Bob Wa th ,ntan, Director of Planning and Governmznt Affairs, Rauenhorst Corp,, auenhorst Circle, presented the proposal and stated they were aware o Staff's recommendations and did concur with their findings. fie pointed out their previous proposal was for a regional or community shopping center and there was PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING RINUTE5 - 2 Juni 5, 1974 concern expressed at that time about the trafficc pattern and the Radged:k1 e Development. With the change in marketing, he felt this proposal would make the best use of the land that was possible. Moving the drive on Fernbrook to the south of the site was agreeable to them and was the best design ,)nsidering the closeness of this intersection to Highway 55. Bruce Peterson, Vice -President of Commercial Development, Radenhorst Corp., responded to several questions from the Comm i ssioners The type ti.F retail tenants would be a good mixture of service tenants and soft goods arparel, types found in most shopping centers, but not large department stores such as Wards, .Sears, DAytons, Donal'dsons, nor discount stores. He used Village iiorti as an example if you removed Murphy's VAriety Store. Sepcifically it would include a grovery store:, a men's and women's apparel, fabrics, hobbies, photo- graphic and service types such as laundry, dry cleaning, savings and loan company, beautyshop. Past service Mould consider a branch bank or savings and loan but no Fotomat type of acility. Their original plan was for more of a mall plan similar to Northtown but after considerable research, taking into account the development of Ridgedale,they felt that type could not be marketed at this site and designed the proposed development as more appropriate. Advantages are it has good access, a mixture of single and multiple families good district for services and felt the neighborhood ,justified this type of center at this location. Discussion centered on traffic flow, especially drawing traffic across a [Pajor thoroughfare such as Highway 55. Mr. Overhiser informed the Commissioners that there is a schedule to install traffic signal's at Fernbrook and Highway 55 in 1975. Discussion also centered on whether or not this should be considered a neighbor- hood. or community shopping center. Mr. Overhiser indicated the Land Use Guide Plan shows neighborhood shopping centers to be located at Rockford Road and 1-494, Highway 101 and 55,. Highway 101 and County Road 6, and Highway 55 and County Road' 73, with a void in this central area, Further discussion was had on whether this proposal would interfer with future development of the community shopping center to be located in this area as per the Land Use Guide Plan. Growth patterns of several shopping cent; ,,s as examples were discussed, such as Southtown and Northtown. Mr; Peterson felt it would take ten years or more for Ridgedale to absorb tht market there, Ray Rausch, Vice -President on Industrial Development, Rauenhorst Corp., gave a quick view of how they develop an 1-1 District. They were envisioning an office building complex in the northwest corner covering; 40 acres as an area with easy accessibility.. The balance would be industrial, which would be man- ufacturing, warehousing; or other uses within the Ordinance, with the commercial area located so traffic could be handled internally with easy access to Highway 55. After observing Staff's strong feelings about a shopping center at the northwest corner of the site, they decided the shopping center would be better located as shown on the plan, Mr. Overhiser explained the developers first sketch did show the center at the southeast corner of Niagara Lane and Highway 55 but Staff's concern was that Niagara Lane was a collector street, not a -thoroughfare while Fernbrook would be the thoroughfare controlled with signals at Highway 55 scheduled for installation In 1975; and secondly, located across from the Cavanaugh Addition, offices would be more compatible with the residences than a shopping -center. Mr. Bausch pointed out that by providing diversified uses for this area, traffic peaks would be staggered, PLANNING COMMiSSTON MEETING MINUTES 3 Juno 5, 1974 Mr. Worthington recapped the two main concerns of the P1amning Commission were traffic (suggested a study of traffic could be stipulated ,by the PlanningCormnission) and where the regional shopping center would be located in the future, and only time would give that answer. He said they were looking for a starting point for the shopping center commencing as soon as frost is out of the ground in the spring of 1975 with an eight-month completion, hoping to open for the Christmas season of 1975. From an economic standpoint, it might take three to five years to complete tiro bale since of the proposed development. Pett Anderson, 2805 fernbrook Lane, wanted to know what aff"ci, the rezoning would have on property located on Fernbrook south of Highway 55. Chairman Kroskin responded that this was presently zoned R -Q, there is no proposal to change that at this time, but she would have a &-2 (Service Business) District to the west of her <lich could be advantageous and industrial to the south and west. There would be more traffic, Public Hearing was closed at 8;30 p.m. MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Stewart that the Planning Cenmission make the following recommendation to the City Council: That the request of Rauenhorst Corporation for rezoning from R to 1-1, B-3' to .B-2 and 1-1 to B-2 in accordance with a General Developmept Pan dated May 13, 1974 and that the Preliminary Plat for "Circle Star Business Center 2nd' Addition" dated. May 13, 1974 be approved subject to the following conditions. 1) The General Development Plan shall not be considered a final site plan and private drives shall be considered at the time of Site Plan Review. 2) Before development commences on this project, a Final Plat with Development Contract must be approved by the City Council 3) The Final Plat must show 60 feet of right-of-way along the west side of the Fernbrook Lane center line: AMENDMENT to the motion was made by Commissioner Threinen supportedby Commissioner Stewart to delete the rezoning to B-2 and substitute B-3 so the commercial area would be zoned 8-3 Service Business and not B-2. Commissioner Threinen stated he rgquested this change so the district would remain a service district and would not include the neighborhood shopping center, so the concept as originally presented and rezoned be carried out and to avoid the cross traffic from the north., also avoid dislocating a community shopping center which might be built in the future, and also avoid retail places in ghat was in effect to bean industrial and service area, Commissioner Threinen stated he wps not opposed to services in this area but was opposed to the retail type of service unless they were granted by a conditional use permit as proposed in the new Zoning Ordinance. Ki also stated that he felt some retail uses might be made part of the t center but that the grocery store should be located in a proposed neighborhood shopping center. There were further commnts surrounding the above points., PLANN114G COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES .. 4 June 5, 1974 MENDMENT CARRIED (7-0-0) CARRIED MOTION as amended CARRIED (7.0-0) CARRIED A-53, STONE DEVELOPMENT., I Z A-533 Preliminary Plat Stobbe's Ist Addition" Public Hearing was opened at,8 40 P.M. Planner Overhiser introduced this request, which was to create four lots on Pineview Lane with the balance Outlot "A". Staff has recommended approval sub- ject to the three conditions listed in their report. In response to Commissioner Threin?n's questions on Condition 1, Mr. Ov-erhiser explained Viat staff was suggesting that across the, northside of Outlot "A" 40 feet for street right-of-way be dedicated and then along Pineview Lane there be 33 feet from the four lois and also along Outl of "A" Robert Mitchell', 310 - 1st National Bank Building, Wayzata, stated that the owner of the property, Karl Humphrey, had passed away a week ago, and he was represent- ing the family in behalf of the owner. Stobbe Development, Inc. has an option on the property fronting on Pineview Lane; the balance of the property (Outlot A") is to be retained by the Humphrey family, Tom Humphrey, was present and spoke for the .Humphrey family, stating they had no objection to the recommendations of the staff relating to the dedication of the land for street right-of-way for Pineview Lane: and 8th Avenue North as it relates to Outlot "A". Roger L. Johnson, of Stobbe Development, Inc.., 3225 Highway 101 North, was also present and di not have any objections to the Staff's recommendations. Dale 'Berndt, 335-BPineview Lane, owner of property south of the proposed plat. stateg -that he felt the four lots should be larger as the lots in this area are all substantially larger than the proposed lots. He stated that fie understood that originally the developer had proposed to plat two lots and have now proposed four lots from the same property, Chairman Kroskin informed Mr. Berndt that the lots do meet the City's minimum requirements and that the City could not require that lots be larger than the minimum. Public Hearing was closed .at 9.00 p.m. With no further discussion, MOTION was made by Commissioner Stewart supported by Commissioner Threinen thatthe Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council That the request of Stobbe Development, Inc. for Preliminary Plat dated May 7, 1974 be approved, subject to the following conditions, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES - 5 - Juni 6, 1974 1) Forty feet of right--of-way along 8th Avenue North; and 33 feet of right-of-way along Pineview Lane be dedicated to the City for the entire distance to include Outlot "A". 2) The recommendations of the City Engineer relative to storm sewer easements and other utility easements as required be shown on the Final Plat.` 3) The recommendations ofthe Parks and Recreation Advisory Cofanission be made a part of this recommendation, i,e.a cash.donation to the Park Dedication Fund would amount to $600 ($150 per new lot x 4)., Park Dedication Funds for Outlot "A" would be required at time of its platting. MOTION CARRIED (6-0-1) (Commissioner, Schneider abstaining) CARRIED A-476 DARREL A. FARR DEVELOPMENT CORP. A7-476 Preijjjn,at Approval Public Hearing was opened at 9;05 p,m.; Planner Overhiser Introduced this request and stated that the petitioner is sub- mitting his Preliminary Plat for City approval, which is based upon the General Development Plan which was approved with the rezoning of the property for the shopping center. He stated that the City will be constructing water, sanitary sewer, and streets thru the property towards 49th Avenue North beginning this summer and that the City Engineering Department and consulting engineers have worked with the petitioners in the location of these facilities. The detailed . location of the buildings, the landscaping and final site grading will be con- tained in the Final Site Plan and is not being considered with the request for Preliminary Plat approval, John Klick, 42810 Pounty Road 10, representing Darrel A. Farr Development and Builders Equity Co., in response to questions concerning Outlot "C",stated that the developer intended to use this; small parcel for an identification sign for the shopping center. The Commissioners concluded that Outlot "B" ahould be dedicated for street right-of- way and not be used for a sigh location after discussing the matter at some length. John Wire, 4130 Quaker Lane North, had questions zoncerning the site grading and proposed location of parking areas and buildings. Chairman Kroskin explained that the Site Plan would be coating to the Commission at a later date and that although the Site Plan is not advertised for a public hearing, if citizens were in attendance and had pertinent questions or comments, they would surely be ,heard at that time. William Meyer, of Consulting Engineers, 6075 Highway 65 also representing Darre'11A. Farr Development, briefly expla;ned the proposed subdivision and development pertaining to the alignment of the frontage road as it pertains to Outlot "C", Public Heaving was c`"., 3ed at 9:.12 p.m. PLANNING;CW,1ISSION MEETING MINUTES 6 - June 5, ]974 MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Stewart that the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council. That the request of Darrel A.. Farr Development and 'Builders Equity Co. for a Preliminary Plat Approval dated May 16, 1.974 be approved, subject to the follow- ing conditions: 1.) The recommendations of the, Park and Recreation Advisory Ciommission be made a part of this recommendation. A cash donation would amount to $11,200- 500 x 22,4 acres) provided no credit is given fcr the proposed trail easement along the pond. Should; this be accepted by the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission, the reduction in the cash donation would have to he determined 2) The recommendation of the. City Engineer relative to drainage easement and street grades be made a part of this recommendation. 3) No grading 'permit be issued until Final Site Pran Apprcval has been received from the City Council. 4) Cutlot "B" be dedicated Lis a street` right-of-way. MOTION CARRIED All in favor CARRIED` 567 CITY OF PLYMOUTH A-567 Rezoniog Public Hearing was opened at 9.15 p.m. There was no one in the audience to speak for or against the proposal.. The Public: Nearing was closed at 9:16 p.m_ Chairman Kroskin asked Planner Overh ser to explain the origin of this requestt- Mr, Overhiser stated that the City ;Council, in reviewing the site plans for Precision Engineering and Monell Tool and Die Co. felt that the five foot minimum side yard requirements within the 1-2 Industrial District were not reasonable for the existing industrial area along County Road 18. They therefore requested Oat the property be rezoned from I-2 (General Industrial) to I-1 (Planned Industrial) in order that the minimum yard requirements of the 1-1 District (50 foot front yard, 25 foot side yard, and 30 foot rear yards) would be applied to new developments. MOTION was made by Commissioner Stewart supported by Commissioner Erickson that the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council That approximately 40 acres be rezoned from I-2 (General Industrial.) to I-1 (Planned Industrial) northwest of the. Soo Line Railroad right-of-way and County Road 18 extending approximtely 2,150 feet north of the Soo Line Railroad and 800 feet west of County Road 18, all Land located in Sections l and 12, Township 118, Range 22. MOTION CARRIED All in favor CARRIED PLANNING MEETING MINUTES June 5, 1974S 5) Landscaping bond be posted and a completion date be established prior to anybuildingpermitbeingissued* 6) No drive access onto Xenium Lane and one access to Mater Tower Circle a distance of 90 feet west or greater from the site's east property line be permitted, 7) The recommendations of the City Engineer relative to storm drainage be made a part of this recommendation, 8) Any users of the building requiring a Conditional Use Permit make application to the, City prior to ,occupancy, 9) A 20 foot :street and utility easement along Xenium Lane be dedicated to the City. 1.0) A 24 x 24 foot maneuvering area be allowed at the southeast corner of the site as noted on the Site Plan. The Planning Commission discussed the sign, requirements for this building and agreed that because the petitioner had not shown his proposed signs in detail, the nameplate signs for the tenants would hav,+ to meet the minimum Ordinance require- ments and should be of a uniform character. MOTION CARRIED All in favor CARRIED A-572 DONALD F, TROUT dba D and 0 TOOL & DIE CO A_572 Conditional Use Permit Planner Overhiser introduced this request, stating the business was going into a building still under construction by Mork and Associates. The°petitioner intends to operate a tool and die making operation along with electrical and electronic products manufacturing business, Staff recommended approval, Bob Luedi;e, representativ°e fora Mark and Associates, 1011 Currie Avenue, was present, stated: the owners of the building were Mork and Associates, tlia portion of the building would be leased to D and J Tool and Die Co,, which is a corporation. Donald Trout, 1.1343 W. Co. Rd 130, Osseo, owner of D and J Tool and Die Co., state tFere would be no noise factor involved, no ventilating fans or generato 5 they use only small motors and grinders. They will employ only two persons atpresentbutdohopetoexpandinthefuture, ultimately employing possibly up toeightindividuals, Planner Overhiser assured the Cornnission the Staff felt parking was adequate, but with multiple tenants as proposed for this building, if it does oecome a problem, it could then be dealt with as the situation existed. PLANNING CONMI, SSTON 14EETING MINUTES - 9 - June 5, 1974 MOTION was made by 'Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Erickson that the Plannitxg Comission recommend to the City Council the following. THAT the request of Donald F. Trout, dba D and J Tool and Die Co,, for a Conditional Use Permit to operate a tool and die operation be approved subjac to no outside storage; of waste yr material being allowed as part of this operation. MOTION CARRIED All in favor CARRIED A-569 y I . _ Conditional Use Permit Planner Overhi:ser introduced this request, stating that this was a companion to the above request, similar type operation to be located in the same building, Bob Luedke, Mork and Associates, statedhe could represent the petitioner as i`Marvan ''-hmidt, President, Pro Engineering, Inc., had just stepped out for a bite to eat. There were no further questions or comments from the Planning Commission. MOTION was made by commissioner Stewart supported by Commissioner Davenport that the Planning Commission make the following recommendations to the City Council: That the request of Pro 'Engineering, Inc. for a Conditional Use Permit to operate a tool and die operation be approved, subject to no outside storage of waste or material be allowed as part of this operation. MOTION CARRIED All in favor CARRIED A-573SEYMOUR CEMAN A-573 Site Plan Review Planner Overhiser introduced this request and noted that ;a petition to vacate Lancaster Lane to the east of this parcel has been submitted to the City and would not affec':> this proposed Site Plan but if the street were vacated, the site could be expandF., ! to the west by 33 feet and would allow for future expansion, Mr, Bernard Herman, 2583 University Avenue, Architect for the petitioner, was in attendance -and--r'efly explained the request. Mr. Se our Clayman, 5600 Phoenix Street, Golden Valley, the petitioner who would e 0 ing the-- facility and occupying it with his business (White Metal Company) spoke in response to questions from the Commission, and made the following state- ments.- his business would employ six persons at the site with three other office personnel located at another site. His .business consisted of obtaining and storing various sized pieces of metal that he then distributes to small machine shops and tool and (fie operations, He has three 1h ton trucks with 12 foot beds PLANNING CO"VISS10N MEETING MINUTES - 10 - dune 5, 1974 they use to deliver the materials with two meal to a truck. The building wouldalsobeusedtohousethetrucksovernightsotheywouldnotbeablightonthe neighborhood. He stated he ,presently is operating out of his home, from his garage, and is moving because he has outgrown that facility.' The Commission, following a discussion of the parking requirements for the site, concluded that some additional parking should be required but did not want to have the petitioner construct excessive parking area.. MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Corr missioner Erickson that the Planning Commission make the following recommendations to the City Council: That: the request of ;Seymour Clayman for Site Plan Approval dated May 24 1974 be approved subject to the following conditions. 1) The recommendation of the City Engineer as per surface drainage be made a part of this recomme/ndation. 2) No signs be permitted, 3) The recommendations of the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission be made a part of this recommendation. A cash donation would amount to $400 (0.88 acres x $500). 4) All storage c'f waste, garbage and materials be within the building. 5) At least eight parking spaces be provided in the parking lot. MOTION CARRIEFj All in favor CARRIED This concluded New, Business portion of the agenda at 9;50 p.m. OLD BUSINESS; AA 7 PLYMOUTH FREEWAY CENTER A-377 Sign Location & Plan Review Planner Ov'erhiser explained to the Planning Commission that the petitioner requested this matter be deferred as the sign plan that was submitted to them was not acceptable and they were redesigning it. This matter will be deferred until July 17th, 1974. REPORT OF OFFICERS, BOARDS AND COMMITTEES A-320 C ELSEA WODS t D ITION Final Plat Planner Overhiser requested that the Planning Commission approve the Final Plat for Chelsea Woods 6th Addition, He noted that this would be the last plat for Chelsea N'oo,"s devel oprmont as all other areas have been final platted. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES 11 - June 5,, 1974 Hans Hagen, President of ilanCon, Inc., was in attendance and described to the Winning Commission the type of structures that would be built in the 6th Addition. He noted that originally they had intended split level but because of the higher terrain in the: addition, they are now going to construct most units as walkouts. The Planning Commission reviewed the setbacks from Yuma Lane and County Road 6 and agreed that they were in conformance with the General Development Plan that had been previously approved. The Commission then discussed the configuration of Wtlot "A" as related to County Road 6 and the intersection near the center of the development MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Stewart that the Chair.:in be. authorized to sign the Final Plat when they are submitted and that the Final Flat be prepared showing Outlot "B' extending along the south sideofOutlot "A" adjacent to County Road 6 and that the intersection of Outlot "A"" at the south side of Block 2 be directed in a cross configuration. MOTION CARRIED All in favor CARRIED W LTO REN BRO HES TZ5i Final Plat - "Fairfield Estates," Planner Overhispr stated that Lundgren Brothers Construction Co. has requested that the Planning Commission review the Final Plat for"Fairfield Estates" and recommended that a Conditional Use Permit be granted for the development as a. Subdivision Unit Project so that the front and side yard setbacks will be the same as the "Shiloh" Plat located to the east of "Fairfield Estates". Following further discussion it was moved by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Erickson that the Chiarman be authorized to sign the Final Plat, subject to the City Engineer's final review of the plat and that the Planning Com- mission recommend that the City Council _grant a Conditional Use Permit to Lundgren Brothers Construction Co. for ""Fairfield Estates`! to be a Subdivision Unit Project under the provisions of Subdivision 7 of Section 7 of the Zoning Ordinance., MOTION CARRIED (6-0-1) (Commissioner Davenport abstaining) CARRIED May 4, 1974 ZONING ORDINANCE DRAFT Planner Overhiser distributed to the Commissioners revised pages for the draft, which included comments that had been made at the Planning Commission Study Meeting on May 30`p 2974. The Cor,nissioners thea discussed whether or not the draft could be submitted to the city Council for their general review and comments. It was concluded that the Commission should submit the draft to the Council as the Planning Commission would like to have some general direction from the Council as to whether or not the Commission's thinking to date is in general conformance with that of the City Council. It was noted that there undoubtedly be additional changes required in the draft when the proposed Zoning District Mftp is drafted and more detailed considera- tion is given to existing development, future development and their relationship to the proposed text of tho new Zoning Ordinance. It was agreed to send it on to PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES . 12 June 5 1974 the Council for comments or to meet with their repre-2entative, Councilman Neils, rather than have 4joint Council/Planning Commission meeting.; MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Ccmm,issioner Stewart to commend' Martin Overhiser ;for his efforts on behalf of the citizens of Plymouth and his assistance to the Planning Commission members in the performance of -their task and to wish him well in his new endeavor withthe college folk in Ann Arbor, Michigan. MOTION CARRIED All in favor CARRIED Chairman Krosk n then distributed to the Planning Commission the Planning Staff Check List for Planning Commission :and Council Meetings, and explained to the Comm; fission that John Bergly, who formerly provided the Commi,:sion with Staff assistance before the Citi hired a full time staff, would be provided the City with Planning Staff assistance while Mr. Overhiser's position is being filled and while Mr. Dale. is out of the City. Minutes of the Planning Commission Meeting of May 1:,1974 was presented. MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Threinen that the minutes of the Planning Commission Meeting of May 1, 1974 be approved as presented. MOTION CARRIED All in favor CARRIED Minutes of the Planning Commission [Meeting of May 15, 1974.was presented and correct;pn noted on Page 2. MOTION was made by Commissioner Thr,inen supported by Commissioner Stewart that the minutes of the Planning Commission Meeting of May 15, 1974 be accepted as amended MOTION CARRIED (5-0-1) (Commissioner Hagen abstaning) CARRIED MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Stewart that the meeting be adjourned. The meeting was adjourned at 10:50 p.m MOTION CARRIED, All in favor CARRIED APPROVEDBY PLANNING COMMISSION August 21, 1974, Reg Kroskin, Chairman Planning Camission, City of Plymouth Martin W. Overhiser,, Secretary