HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 05-15-1974PLANNING COMMISSION
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CITY OF PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA
May 15, 197
A regular meeting of the Plymouth Planning Cowmi.ssion was calked to order by
Chairman Kroskin at 7.40 p, m. in the Council Chambers of the Public Vjp-rks '
Building 14900 - 23rd Avenue Nortb.
MEMBERS PRESENT:: Chairman Kroskin, Commissioners Schneider, Davenport,
Erickson., Stewart and Threi nen.,
MEMBERS ABSENT: CommissionerHagen.
STAFF PRESENT. Martin W. Overhiser, Milton Dale, and Agatha Mortenson
OTHERS, PRESENT. Kathy Wilhelm Y.A.A.C, Representative
Chairman Kroskin called the meeting to order at 7:40 p.m.
Chairman Kroskin opened the Public Information Meeting.
A-522 ROGER FAZENDIN and DONALD HUSV.0 A-522 Revised Concept Plan
This was a continuation of the Public Informational Meeting held on March 6, 1974,
On April 17, 1974 this request by the petitioners was brought up at 'the Planning
Commission Meeting. There were several mations and it was finally moved that
the request for 'this Residential Planned Unit Development be brought back at a
public meeting,
Planner Overhiser reviewed the proposal. The petitioners were submitting a
revised plan incorporating a number of things the Planning Commission requested
be changed before submitting the proposal to the Council for review. The basic
difference was in the number of units. The earlier plan proposed 32-34 units
in a clustered fashion with some attached and some detached single family units.
The new proposal called for 18 units on the 7.7 acres of buildable land above
the high eater mark as per the Storm Drainage Plan adopted' by the Council.
Roger FazendiOn, the petitioner, stated he did not own the property, that it was
owned'6y— Hope Alexander. They seriously contested the 7.7 acre figure for the
buildable nand above the high water mark on Hadley Lake. He stated' they had a
Planned Unit Development for this area instead of scattering the houses allr over
the hand in the usual manner. They would make 'better use of the land by cluster-
ing
luster-
ing the units.. He felt that if they followed the old manner and developed the
sewer and roads: as usual, it would cost the neighbors a lot more money. lie also
questioned the advisability of the minimum of 40 acres for a Planned Unit
Devel opment
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C1rairman Kroskin stated this was a new ordinance, there were certai , features
built in it, and the ordinance states that the minimum amount of acres that
could be used in a Residential Plwmied Unit Development was 40 acres..
Mr. Fazendin stated the plan was to put the sewer into the property and assess
the cost against the property and not construct it on Queensland Lane or 3rd
Avenue.
A letter from B2y Oi tindan,520 Queensland Lane., was read in part to the
audilYnce by Chairman Kir skin. Fir. tindan states he and the other neighbors
were requesting that the area continue to develop as in the past, and opposing
bringing in sewer and water just to the property to be developed
The question of the number cif acres was again brought up by Mr. Fazendin,and
Planner Overhiser stated that the City Council had adopted the Storm Drainage
Plan for the entire city,, which has established various high water narks Until
the Minnehaha Watershed District establishes something different, we will con-
tinue to use the 959 foot. mark.
Commissioner Stewart said we were staying with the .40 -acre minimum fora Residential
Planned Unit Development unless there was some unusual feature that would benefit
the neighborhood and wanted to know what benefit there was that made this
Residential Planned Unit Development qualify. Mr. Fazendin stated that what it
boiled down to was the fact they had pretty good features in this plan. They
have three or four men who are seriously interested in buying homes that would
run between $75,000 and $100,000 and are interested because of the height and
view of the land above the lake. The homes would be built off the lake and on
the ridge looking down the length of it. You only build on an area once, and
if it is developed as planned, you will have people coming in with $100,000
buying these homes. if it is ;built in the ordinary fashion, the property will
not have the fine view and people will not pay that price for this fine property.
Another thing by following the Residential Planned Unit Development you can stay
within the 18 units total but could trot do so if you follow the usual and
ordinary fashion. The better the homes built on this property, the higher the
value of the surrounding property.
Chairman Kroskin reiterated that the; reasons for the request for the Residential
Planned Unit Development on the 7.7 acres were because of the high ridge with
its view and bcl:sically it would be easier to promote and construct better homes
following the plan as proposed, which Mr. Fazendin confirmed were correct.
When questioned by Commissioner Threi nen as to what plans they had for pliasi ng,
whether to build one home at a time or a cluster of homes,, Mr. Fazendin stated
they did not know as they did not even know if the City would approve of the
plan. He stated they had four people that wanted houses in that area. He stated
they would not put in all the homes at one time but would desifn them for individual
buyers. They would riot construct the home then find the buyer but would rather
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find the buyer and design the hone to suit the buyer, and that because of the
interest rates, talking about 10 to 12 percent,, the developer must get in and
out fast enough so he does not lose his money invested. He felt they wouldhaveitcompletedinabout18months
David L. Anderson, 17800 - 3rd Avenue North, brought out the question that alltraff- om t -'s` area would go down 3rd Avenue. Hefelt this would create a
large increase in traffic over and above what they already experience as people
come out Queensland to get onto 3rd Avenue to 101. He suggested one idea would
be if there was an easement going north onto Queensland that would take part
of the traffic, He said he and 'his neighbors were quite upset about the possi-
bility of having 36 more vehicles to contend with. They have small children
and were concerted about their safety also. Commissioner Threinen replied that
this was one problem that does not hinge on the Residential Planned Unit Devel-
opment Concept beause the present .zoning allows 18 dwelling units_.
Robert Beach, 625 Queensland Lane, wanted to know about the adequacy of the
sewer line if it is increased by 17 or 18 units. Mr. Overhiser stated that Mr.
Hustad had discussed this with our 54rm",vn Goldberg, and the pipes in
the street would handle the houses planned. Mr. Donald Hustad, co -petitioner,
4onfirm.ed that this matter had been discussed 7t r. olo- d erg and that Mr.
Overhiser`s statements were correct.
Mr. Beach was also ,concerned about the water capacity, but: Mr. Overhiser stated
that would be no problem, the water may or may not be looped for circulation,.
Mr. Beach also was concerned about an easement that is at the end of Queensland.
He had heard statements that the City was not going to use the ,easement and
wondered if it could be vacated. Mr. Overhiser stated that once the easement
is granted, the City usually holds on to them as it is impossible to know what
will be needed in say 20 years from now and he felt the City Councilwould not
want to give up this easement. However, he told Mr. Beach he could write to the
City Manager about this matter if he wished.
Mrs. Douglas Seer, 3357 ,Queensland, was concerned about the road. Queensland
is currently not blacktppped and is not very well serviced and there are pot-
holes and chuckholes in it With this development and the increase of heat/
traffic, what about the road itself, If they are planning to go to blacktop,;
this would be an additional cost to the people who live on this road. Mr. Over-
riser stated that a couple of years ago there was a proposal to put in water,
sewer, storm sewer and pavement. Before ,a project of this type is approved the
Council would again hold hearings. Mr.. Overhiser remarked that in the past,
Plymouth has not laid blacktop over existing roads, they first construct the
underground pipes and then build the: street to todays` standards.
Russ Nora, 60.5 Queensland, was concerned about the st.,d of Norway trees where
the proposed sewer line would be run, and wanted to knovr wha.z the re,donsibility
of the developer would be to return the land to the natural state it was in
prior to the cutting for this installation. Mr. Overhiser stated this responsi'--
bility would be spelled out ir, the development contract between the City and the
developer. Normally when the City or Developer tear up trees for some project,
the trees are replaced
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Roberta Johnson, 620 Queensland, was also concerned about the trees, no way canyoureplace15footredpines, the value would not be the same,, The value to
the property is not the same. She was wondering if the sewer could be directed
another way. the felt if they could afford a project such as wa.- being proposed,
they could afford the cost of building a pump house.
There were no further comments from the audience, so Chairman Kroskir as.Ked 1!22eAlexanderifshewantedtocommentontheYemaBksmadebyherneighbors. She:
sta-answer to David Anderson's question about the roads that it would havetobebuiltsometimeregardlessofwhatwaythelandwasdeveloped. The assess-
ment for the road would ,be the same whether it was developed as a Residt?ntial
Planned Unit Development or in the usual standard manner, She further explained
that she had to sell: the land, it was for sale to anyone who would buy it but
she wanted to sell the land in such a manner as to retain as much of the beautyofthelandaspossible. She has held the land for ten years and did not buyitforspeculation, She explained that she was trying to find a way that wouldbegoodi=or her neighbors as well as herself, and she felt the proposal as
presented would in the long run be more bene`icial to the neighborhood because
by developing this in the fashion as proposed it would also raise the value of'
the surrounding property, far more than could be done if handled as individual
1-ots She knew the words "clustering„ and. "PUD" are words the public does not
really understand and usually thinks in terms of multiple dwellings. She
assured them this was not the case, they would be buying their land from her
and build on them as individually owned homes. She was simply the owner, sellingthruthedeveloper. There is no public access to the lake now and she did not
know if they would be providing this or not. Chairman Kroskin thought the
answer to that question would be that the open land would be ^wined by an
association, and thus all the people in the association would possibly haveaccesstothelake.
Public Informational P4eeting was closed at 8:40 p.m,
To Commissioner Davenport's question as to how sewer and water services were
assessed, Mr, Overhiser stated in a project such as Queensland, it would 'probablybedivideduponafrontfootagebasis. There are basically two ways the Council
assesses projects, one on a unit basis and the other on a front footage basis.
If the lots are equal in shape and size, they can use the unit :basis, if the lots'
vary in shape,; size and width, they normally use the front footage basis and the
cost 'would be divided by the assessible footage i;n each lot.
Commissioner Erickson brought up the matter of the cul-de-sac indicating a public
road deadendIng at the south property line. Mr. Overhiser stated this would be
at the very southeast corner, would .be platted as a public, street and bu 1.t as a
public street for access to the south but could. have a temporary cul-de-sacat
the very south end. It would extend to tyre south whenever the property to the
south is platted
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Chairi;ran Kroski.n reiterated the concerns from the audience which were timing,
sharing in costs of the utilities, landscaping_, and access. He felt the
Commission should zero in on whether or not the condition, which is basically
the preservation of the slope, is adequate to make an exception to the 40racre
minimum requirement for a Residential. Planned tnit Developmipnt, Chairman Kroskin
stated that in looking at the land itself, he was in favor of clustering.
Commissioner Threinen admitted that origi'nal:y they had not conceived of a
feature such as view and topography as being special features but after tromping f, thru this land, he felt it did fit the basic Residential Planned Unit Development
due to these features. Commissioners Davenport and Schneider concurred also as
did Commissioner Erickson, who did bring do the question of whether it would
benefit the community as a whole.
As for the utilitius to the land, Chairman Krosk:in stated he felt it was up to
the Council z:hether or not to assess this land at this point, to which Mr. Liver
Kiser agreed, stating that when they get to the final approval, any assessments
oii Queensland would be considered as well as to how these assessments would be
shared, so at this time; it is pure speculation as to What would be done about
this matter.
Commissioner TFreinen brought out the comparison of this area: with the area at
West Medicine Lake Drive and Evergreen Lane south of 18th Avenue as far as
traffic congestion. The land feature is such that it more or less forces
Queensland into a very bad situation with rega,d to traffic,
MOTION was made by Commissioner Erickson supported by Commissioner Threinen, that
action be taken on this request of Roger Fazendin and Donald Hustad for a Concept
Plan as Revised for a Residential Planned Unit Development,
MOTION CARRIED All in favor MOTION CARRIED
MOTION was made by Comotissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Stewart that
the Planning Commi.sslott recommend to the City Council that the request of
Roger Fazendin and Donald Hustad for Residential Planned Unit Development,
Concept Plan dated March 28, 1974 be approved for no more than 17 total dwelling
units
More comments werle made regarding sewer and water services to this property and
property on, the. west side of Queensland with Mr. Overhiser reminding the Commission
that this was just the Concept Plan and its purpose is to give guidance to the
developer from the .coments of the public and the Planning Commission -embers,
Commissioner Threinen brought up the question of traffic from this area, noting
the problem does not hinge on the Residential Planned Unit Development but will
have to be dealt with eventually. As far as the trees were con.erned, at first
lie thot;ght they could ,not be moved but Commissioner Stewart assured him this.,was
possflbl e and some of his friends had done so successfully.
Commissioner Erickson stated a study should be made to determine it more than
one acces3 could be made into the property,
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i MOTION was made to AMEND THE MAIN. M0 ION by Commissioner Erickson supportedbyCommissionerThreinentoaddthefollowingrenditionsbegivenstudywhenthePreliminiaryPlansarepreparedand
submitted. 1) Timing or sequence of the construction of the
project. Cost sharing of utilities and streets in thearea3Landscapingofanyareasdisturbedbyutilityconstruction. 4. Access to the property by way of 3rd Avenue and Queensland
Lane; AMENDMENT CARRIED All in favor AMENDMENT
CARRIED MAIN MOTION CARRIED All in favor MOTION
CARRIED Meeting was roressed at 9:05 p.
m, Meeting was reconvened at.9:10 p.
m. Chait-man Kroskin added one comment following the above action in that we
expect the developer to follow the Residential Planned Unit Development and that
we would like to see any and all developments follow the Ordinance to the
letter. Public Hearings were opened at 9:12 p.
m. A-306, RM TKUMERFIELD A-3 Amendment to Zoning
Oedftrance Conditional Use
Permit Rick Kumerfield was in the audience. Commissioner Davenport stepped down as
he represents this business, Mr. K's Menswear;,
Inc. Assistant Planner Milt Dale introduced this request to allow by ConditionalUsePermitinaB-3 District "bens' Apparel Shop".. The staff does not feel that
this type of use will be objectionable and has recommended to the Planning
Commission approval of the reques4 as listed in the Staff Report. Staff did view the
site, there are 25 parking spaces with three retail establishments there and felt
there was sufficient parking as provided under the Ordinance.'Mr. Dale stated
petitioner is also asking for a Conditional Use :Permit at this time in addition to
the Amendment to the Zoning Ordinance to allow this
use. Mr. Kumerf eld explained to the Corrrissio,nthat he would mainly handle
medium to better priced goods, The l ocat°i on is already a commercial area and
the previous owner had about 50 percent in clothing so he felt that Moving intothebuildingwiththisbusinesswouldbenoproblem, He also was aware of
the reason why the previous owner had ,moved
out. No farther comments from the audience. Public Hearing was closed on this '
item. MOTION was:made by Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Stewart
that the Planning Commission act on this
request, NOTION CARRIEDAll in favor, MOTION
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Planner Overhiser, informed the Commission that in the B-3 Section of the Zoning
Ordinance they have fisted 18 specific uses, three or four have been added in,
the last two years,aard as it presently stands,, retail stores are not permi*ted,
Commissioner Erickson questioned adding all retail outlets to the B-3 District,
suggested adding Many other retail outlets" by Conditional Use, Mr.. Overh•isor
felt this wov,ld; be in line with the new proposed ordinance the Commission is
working on.
Mr, Kumerfield stated he did not.operat. any other stores at this time but has
been general manager and buyer for other stores. The average customer spends
about ten minutes in the store, creating a constant turnover in parking space.,
so parking, would be no problem he felt. Another problem the previous owner
had was outside storage, but this petitioner does not plan on such storage,
eliminating this problem. Petitioner stated p -i had conducted a study of up to
twelve "locations considering incomes, traffic ttow, size, what price of goods,
what range to handle, stating it makes a difference moving into a 6,000 square
foot building or one of 25,000 square feet. He also considered the stores nearby.
In addition to the 25 parking spaces for customers, they have additional parking
in back for employees, possibly three or four in the back.
Further comments were made as to whether to list i t specifically or add a general
listing under "retail establishments" to allow more types without making the
list longer. Also discussion was held on whether to allow this type in a B-3
District for economic reasons, should such stores remain in shopping centers,
and whether in this particular area there was enough walk-in trade to justify it. U
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissi-oner Stewart that
the Planning Commission make the following recommendations to the City Council:
That the request of Rick R. Kumerfield for an amendment to the Zoning Ordinance
to allow, by Conditional Use Permit the operation of "Apparel Shops" in a B-3
District be recommended for approval and added to Section 13, Subdivision 3 as
Item 19, and that a Conditional Use Permit for an Apparel Shop in a B-3 District
at 10740 State Highway 55 be granted to Rick R. Kumerfield.
MOTION CARRIED (5-0-1) (Commissioner Davenport abstaining) MOTION CARRIED
A-206 SHENANDO_H DEVELOPMENT CORP. A-206 Revised Site Plan and
Final Plat
Assistant Planner Dale explained that this proposal was before the Planning
Commission on May 1, 1974 and the Planning Commission recommended that action
be deferred until a Staff Analysis of the Final Plat was made, primarily on the
open spaces and rear yard requirements. The analysis was done as noted in the
Staff Report. Staff recommends approval to the Planning Commission with the two
conditions as given in their report dated May B, 1974.
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Mr. Overhiser explained the increase i n ou d ot_o r ark n spacesppga was accomplished
by, lengthening the driveways so there will be room for two parking spaces on
each drive. The previous plan did not have parking spaces on the drives. The
open space has been diminished because of the techniques, the units have been
spread out. It was basically a townhouse plan originally and this plan is pri-
marily a patio home concept, due to changes in the market. There were originally
74 units, and now 70 units are proposed.. Mr. Overhiser stated he felt the concern
of the Planning Commission was: that the major open area be maintained and no
encroachment made in this total area. The or ginal plans and the revised plans
were: shown to the Commission for comparison. Everyone in the first and second
additions own their property, own their 'buildings and belong to the Association.
In this plan, there, will be platted lots and homes. 'built ori the lots, there will
be common areas owned by the Association.
Mr. Glen Metz, representative of Shenandoah Development: Corp., was unable to
answer Chairman Kroskin's questions as to how much space per unit the individual
property owners had in Phase 1 and :how much on this Addition. He stated the units
are larger and this made the Tots larger,: Using the maps, Mr. Metz indicated
the size of each unit.
Mr. Overhiser pointed out the differences. The original plan had a pool,
recreational building 3,250 square feet, and parking area. In this proposal
there is e revision in the recreation area. The changes are they will put the
pool in the 3rd Addition and in place of where the pool was located, they have
proposed parking area, tennis courts (2), and a ball diamond. They also say a
future cabana: with the pool The original recreational building is proposed to
be moved over to the pool area as a babana
Mr. Overhiser stated that he had discussed this matter with Ken Weistrand, also
of Shenandoah Development Corp., and Mr. Weistrand had requested that a third'
condition be added to the effect that the: exact location and design of the
recreational building be subject to an agreement between the Association Board
and the Developer because there was some confusion as to what the recreational
building would be. Mr. Met, stated these amenities were originally designed for
the entire project. M.*. Overhiser related the original plan showed parking,
recreational building (2.5' x 50') and pool for the whole project. The Developer
said he is moving the pool and replacing it with tennis courts, ball diamond,
parking and pool but he may not be doing it in the same manner as originally
planned. Mr. Metz ecpanded. by saying that the recreational building .s specified
on the original pian was substituted in part by the tennis courts, the ball
diamond, Developer prodding the parking space with the pool moved into the 3rd
addition :and provided at this time, the Association would provide some kind of
bans with the pool Mr.; Metz did not know what was originally planned for the
reational building but assuaed it ras to be a suana, changing rooms for the
ail, restrooms, showers, etc.
There was considerable discussion over the advantages of moving the pool, whether
or not they have added amenities by this move, what was originally promised to
the homeowners, and how much open space they have reduced., if any.
Glenn Nellist, 2753 Upland Lanes current Presi'den't of the Shenandoah Homeowners
Association, brought out the fact that when they bought their homes they were
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L S RAN Concept Plan Approval
Public Informational Meefl ng was opened at 91-18 p,m.
Planner Overhiser explained that petitioner had requested that this matter be
deferred. This matter will be deferred until July 17th,1974 meeting.
The meeting was recessed at 9:20 p.m.
The meeting was reconvened at 9:30 p.m.
NEW BUSINESS:
A-570 VANTAGE COMPANIES A-570 Site Plan Review
Planner Overhiser introduced this request, and stated that the Staff was recoonend--
ing approval with a setback variance along the north side of the lot in order that
the building might be constructed 13 feet from the north property line rather than
the 25 foot Ordinance requirement, This variance was recommended because the
property abuts a railroad easement and the north side of the building would have
a rail spur adjacent to the buildi-tg.
Mr. Kae Westerlund, of Benson -Orth Associates, representing Vantage Companies,
stated thattherea, rT`eady° is a buyer for the building when it is bulli. He also
stated that if the Planning Commission does follow the Staff recommendations in
closing the driveway to Xenium Lane, they would not object if a 24 x 24 foot
maneuvering area is allowed at the southeast corner of the site for truck traffic
to turn around and back into the loading; docks. He assured the Commissioners
there would be no parking in this additional area. Mr. Overhiser stated he could
see no problem resulting from the granting of this regttest.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Erickson supported by 'Commissioner Schneider that
the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council;:
That the request of 'tentage Companies for Approval of a Site Plan dated May 1.8,1974beapproved, subject to the following conditions:
1) A variance for side yard be granted to allow building to be 13 feet from the
north line for reasons of a railroad spur.
2) Recommendations of the Fire Chief relative to the placement of fire lanes and
fire hydrants be a part of this recommendation.
3) All storage of waste, garbage and materials be within the building.
4) The recommendations of the Park and Recrea' Advisory Commission be made a
part of this recommendation. A cash donation would amount to $0,100 (3.2
acres x $500).
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3) Developer preserve. as many trees as possible in the parking :rea for the pool.
Mr. Nellist brought to the: attention of the Commissioners the fact that there
has been some excavation and some fill in the area and some of the area has been
cleared already, Mr. Metz admitted they have moved in Some fall, but denied any
excavatxn or work on the pool has begun. The digging wags done to check out the
sour conditions.
PRIORITY MOTION" was made by Co ai ssi ones Threi nen supported by Commissioner
Schneider that action be post<aned on this request until the following have been
resolved
1) The representation of the amenities that were made to the original purchasers
of homes and tha phasing of those amenities.
2) If an operatory agreement exists between the Council and the Developer re-
garding the flexibility anu changes of plans, we should be made aware of
this,
3) Soil tests in the area of the proposed pool be completed, including specific
tests of the soil where the pool was originally proposed,, and enforcement:
made in regards to the propkised poolsite,
4) A study of the total open space be made.
Chairman Kroskin suggested that the Staff take another look at the site, espec-
ially the pool area.. Mr. Overhiser reminded the Coraissioners that this property
was the developer's own property and if he ;'iad' excF' s fill in one area and wanted
to ultimately use it in another, Staff fel;,`* :e had the right to move it, but if
in fact he had cleared the land, changing the topography, then he was in violation
of grading without a permit. The City does not -lave an ordinance governing the
cutting of trees.
Mr. Metz reiterated their proposal with the maps as a guide, explaining the
various reasons for the changes
MOTION FAILED (2-4-0) (Commissioners Stewart, Erickson,
Schneider, and Chairman Kroskin opposing) MOTION FAILED
AMENDMENT (to the original motion made by Commissioner Stewart)was made by
Commissioner Stewart supported by CoWs.sioner Threinen to add Condition 4 as
follows
4) Petitioner, when he requests a Site Plan Approval for the 4th Addition, the
tennis courts and ball diamond be specified.
AMENDMENT (to the original motion made by Commissioner Stewart) was made by
Commissioner Erickson supported by Commissioner Davenport that Item 2 include
the words "the recreation building's minimum seize be 25 x 50 feet or 1,250 square
feet as per the original plan".
BOTH AMENDMENTS CARRIED All in favor AMENDMENTS CARRIED
PLANNING .COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES 11 May 15, 1974
MAIN, MOTION CARRIED All in favor MOTION CARRIED
Commissioner Threinen requested that the Planning Commission be given a copy of
the information regarding the flexibility which the Council may have wanted to
give the Developer.
This concluded the New Business at 10:45 p,m.
OLD BUSINESS
A -5Y63 GERALD J. PROVOST A-563 Conditional Use Permit
Assistant:Planne:r Dale introduced this request explaining that the petitioner
wanted approval to operate hydrostatic testing as a home occupation in his home
at 17125 - 11th Avenue North. Staff recommended approval subject to the two
conditions,
Gerald J. Provost, 17125 11th Avenue North, was in the audience, and passed
out literature showing the equipment he intended to use. He assured the Commis-
sioners there was no danger of explosion, noise was nota problem, and that he
would operate it in his garage. He explained that: he has only a Ford Bronco
which he will use to pick up the tanks for testing, he has no passenger, car and
there is sufficient space on the drive to park the truck. He stated he did not
repair the tanks, only tested them, there is no way they could' be repaired, the
tanks are destroyed if found to be defective.
MOTION was: made by Commissioner Stewart supported by Commissioner Erickson that
the Planning Commission recommend the City Council approve: of the request of Gerald
J. Provost for a Conditional Use Permit fora home occupation for hydrostatic
testing equipment to be operated in the garage at his home at 17125 - 11th Avenue
North, subject to the following conditions:
1) The Conditional Use Permit be for a period of .one year, at which time he
will be required to re -apply for another Conditional Use Permit
2) No signs be allowed on the petitioner's property relative to his business
operation.
S) No repair of tanks be conducted.
AMENDMENT was made by Commissioner Erickson supported by Commissioner Stewart
that no outside storage be allowed.
AMENDMENT ICARRIED All in favor AMENDMENT CARRIED
MOTION CARRIED (4_2-0) (Commissioners Threinen & Davenport opposing)
MOTION CARRIED
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING .MINUTES - 12 - May 15, 1974
Old Business was completed at 10:55 p.m.
7 PL MO THFREEWAY- CENTER -377 Final Plat
The Final Plat was presented in accordance with Preliminary Plat that wasapprovedbytheCouncil, which was granted with one of the conditions being
that when they presented the Final Plat they also present a Preliminary Plat
of their northern holdings showing h:-,.r the long parcel to the east could be
served: The Preliminary Plat`of the property to the north would extend Empire
Lane with half a street at the north going out to Fernbrook and another street
to serve the other property to the east. This is just for the records so it
is on file as an indication of what they intend to plat next. There is no
change in the Final Plat from the Preliminary. The Planning Commission was
asked to authorize the Chairman to sign the Final Plat when petitioner brings
in the hardshel1s.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Davenport
that the Planning Commission authorize, the Chairman to sign the hardshells
for Plymouth Freeway Center:
MOTION CARRIED (4-0-2) (Commissioner .Schneider & Davenport abstaining)
MOTION CARRIED
A--567 PROPOSED ZONING CHANE A-567
Planner Overhiser explained a Council request which name up in relation to the
Site Plans of Precision Engineering; and Monell Tool and Die Co, Councilman Neils
made the motion that this area be changed from 1.2 to I-1 District. Councilman
Nils was concerned: about the setback in the I-2 District which could be five-
foot side yar-is This proposed Zoning Ordinance Amendment gill -be up for a
public hearing on June 5th:
REPORTS OF OFFICERS, BOARDS AND COMMITTEES
D FT ZONING ORDINANCE
Mr. Overhiser stated John 'Bev,gly is assisting in preparing the draft of the new
Zonii7g Ordinance. He suggested that a special meeting be held to review this
draft. It was agreed to hold the meeting on May 30th,.
Mr. Overhiser informed the Planning Commission that his resignation was official
and his last working day in Plymouth would be June 11th. He :51uggested that the
Planning Commission schedule a meeting on June 5th and on July 17th, by which
time Assistant Planner Dale would be back from his trip and a new Director may
be found by then.
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES _ 13 May 15, 1979
A-373 BELMAR s INDUSTRIAL PARK A-373
Planner Overhiser presented the Final Plat for Be?Mar's Industrial Park. The
only change from the Preliminary Plat is the 60 foot right-of-way on 21st
Avenue, they have reduced to SO feet with ten -foot easement on both sides.
Sherman Goldberg, City Engineer, does not object to this change. There will be
a 44 -foot 9 -tun street leaving a 3 -foot green strip within the street and ten
foot easement for snow removal,. etc. It reduces the setbacks by five feet on
each side.
Chairman Kroskin stepped down because he is involved in the sale of the adjacent
property. Commissioner Threinen was appointed Acting Chairman for this matter.
14017ION was made by Commissioner Erickson supported. by Commissioner Schneider
that the Chairman be authorized to sign the Final Plat and that the right-of-way
be increased to 60 feet with a ten -foot easement,
MOTION. CARRIED. (5-0-1) (Commissioner Kroskin abstaining) MOTION CARRIED'
Chairman Kroskin returned to his chair.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Erickson that
approval of the minutes be deferred as the Commissioners had not had an opportunity
to review them.
MOTION CARRIED All in favor MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Kroskin. read a letter from Mr. Thomas Berg, president of Middle East
Plymouth Homeowners Association, 3820 Trenton Lane, commending the Planning Com-
mission for their attentiveness, and dedication to city planning for the benefits
of all citizens.
Commissioner Stewart brought up the matter of commercial vehicles parked at
Plymouth Oil Co. at all hours of the day and night. Planner Overhiser agreed;
to check into this matter.
Chairman Kroskin introduced Cathy Wilhelm, the representative from Youth Action
Advisory Committee, who was substituting for Vicki Freund.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Stewart that
the meeting be adjourned.
MOTION CARRIED All in favor MOTION CARRIED
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES - 14 - May 15, 197`4
Meeting was adjourned at 11:30 P.M.
APPROVED BY PLANNING COMMISSION . June 5, 1974
Reg Kr'ski n;, Chairman
Planning Commission, City of Plymouth
Nartin W. Overhiser, Secret.ry