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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 05-01-1974PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES 12 May 1, 1974 coming back as future buildings are proposed and for now the one drive w711 be sufficient.; Comadssioner Kroskin asked what the time schedule was on this first phase. Mr. Anderson stated they plan to complete Phase 1 in the fall of 1974 and go to Phase 2' i n the fall of 1974 and into Phase 3 in the spring of 1975. MOTION CARRIED (7-0-0) All in favor MOTION CARRIED A- ERNI3ROOK INVESTMENT GO. A - 9;O Chairman Kroskin asked who were the principals in Fernbrook Investment Co. Richard Anderson, 3131 Fernbrook Lane, said he is the sole principal in thisfirm. Assistant .planner Dale introduced this proposal, which is to constrict ar office- warehouse building in Phase x of approximately 51,300 square feet at 0, :,firth West corner of Fernbrook Lane and 21st Avenue North for light, manuf-,icturV-0. Several renters are anticipated requesting use of this spa --e. Staff rA(:Io;attends approval: subject to the nine conditions listed in their report. Coomtiss.ioner Threinen inquired about the signs, but none were lnclude.i klitil the Site Pian and Mr. Dale had informed them of the requirements. Mr. Aiidc:-son stated there would be no signs, just the nameplates. The fact; of the buildingwillbesplitblockandaluminum. Petitioner is requesting one drive ontoFernbrook; Staff is recommending closing that and PUtting two onto 21st Avenue. MOTION was made by Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Erickson that the Planning Commission, make the following recommendation to the CityCouncil That the request of Fernbrook Investment Co. for approval of a Site Plan datedApril16, 1974 be approved, subject to the following conditions 1) No private dr,ir,es on the site be permitted onto Fernbrook Lane, 2) The first drive west of Fernbrook Lane be at least 100 feet west of the east pr,Dperty 'line and that the second drive onto 21st Avenue North b- at the southwest corner of that lot to serve as truck access for both buildings. 3) The reconmendati ons of the Fire Chief relative to fire lanes be made a part of this recommendation and that an additional fire hydrant be placed along 21st Avenue North to serve this proposed building. 4) The recommendations of the Parks -and Recreation Advisory Committee be made a ;part of this recommendation.. A cash donation to the Park Dedication Fund would amount to $5,700 (11.4 acres x $5001. PLANNING 'COMMISSION CITY OF PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA MAY 1_, 1974 A regular meeting of the Plymouth Planning Commssion was called to: order byChairmanKrosknat7:40 Pon. in the Council Chambers of the Public Works Building, 1.4900 23rd Avenue North' MEMBERS PRESENT. Chairman Kroskin Commissioners Schneider, Davenport, Erickson, Hagent Stewart and Threinen. MEMBERS ABSENT: None STAP'E PRESENT, Martin Overhiser and Milt Dale OTHERS PRESENT: Councilman Neils and Y A.A.C. Rep-esuntative Vicki Freund Chairman Kroski:n introduced and welcomed Mki, Freund, who will be representing Youth Action Advisory Committee on the Planning Commission, and will sit in on the meetings as a non-voting member. Public Hearing was opened at 7:40 p.m, e A-363 HARRY N. JEN SEN A-363 Preliminary Plat Approval Assistant, Planner Milt Dale presented this proposal, in which the petitioner proposed to plat this area into five single family residential lots on the southeast_ shore of Bassett Creek Pond No 23., Allots would front onto County Road 15. Mr. Dale pointed out the fact that Lots 1 and 2 were below Zoning Ordinance requirements of 18,500 square feet if one considered only the area above the high water mark of 956 feet for the pond. The Staff recommended approval with the conditions as noted in the report, Frank DeMars, 727 —6th Avenue South, Hopkins, represented the petitioner and: in orniea he Commission that Mr. Jensen contemplated homes in the $45,000 bracket for this area. James Kavanaugh, owner of the adjoining property, wanted to know if these homes. would-be .single family dwellings. Mr. DeMars assn;°ed him this was the case. Public Hearing was closed with no further questions or .comments from the audience. MOTION was made by Commissioner Stewart supported by Commissioner Davenport that the, request of Harry lig Jensen for approval of a preliminary plat dated March 20 1974 be acted upon tonight. MOTION: CARRIED (64-1) (Commissioner Threinen abstaining) MOTION CARRIED PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ,MINUTES May 1, 1974 A-5 `8LUNDGREN BROTHERS A -5T 8 Prel minas Plat Approvalp Commissioner Davenport steppe; down because he might become involved in this development in the future. Assistant Planner Milt Dale introduced this proposal, reminding the PIanning Commissionthat on March 11,1974 the City Council did approve the Shiloh Preliminary Plat and Conditional Use Permit which adjoins this plat. He pointed out to the Commission that the proposal was for 12 single family lots, all meeting; the Ordinance requirements except Lot 1, Block 2. He stated Staff recommended approval subject to the condition that Lott be increased to 1.8,500 square feet and the other conditions as shown in the report As there were no comments or questions from the audience, Chairman Kroskiin" closed the Public Hearing. MOTION was made by Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Erickson that the request of Lundgren Brothers for Preliminary Plat Approval for Fairfield Estates", dated April 11, 1974 be acted upon tonight. MOTION CARRIED(6-0-1) (Commissioner Davenport abstaining) MOTION CARRIED Commissioner Davenport returned to his chair. 3 ROANNE PROPERTIES, INC. CHANDLER- OPIC INC. A-523 Preliminary Plat Approval Assistant Planner Milt Dale introduced this proposal for rearrangement for Logs 39 thru 42. On December 5, 1973 the Planning Commission had. recommended that the petitioner submit a pre?iri nary plat showing the rearrangement of these lots. All lots conform to the 'Ordinance requirements as proposed. Mr. Dale; stated the Staff recommended approval subject to the'. conditions listed in the report. Mr. Jim Ruone, 725 N.E. Lake St, Hopkins, represented the petitioners, stated the new owner of the property is Chandler -Topic, Inc. Chairman Kroski'n asked Mr.. Ruone who !dere the principals of Chandler --Topic, Inc. Mr. Ruone replied they were William Jones, Jr. and Terry Hedler. Chairman Ooskin also asked if they were aware of the conditions as suggested, by the Staff, and Mr. Ruone stated they were fully aware and concurred:, There being no further comments or questions from the audience, Chairman Kroskirr closed the Public Hearing, MOTION was ,rade by Commissioner Erickson supported by Commissioner Schneider that the request of Roanoke. Properties, Inc. (Chandler -Topic, Inc.) for approval of a Preliminary Plat dated March 49, 1974 be acted upon tonight. MOTION CARRIED All in favor MOTION CARRIED PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES 3 May 1, 1974 Public Hearings were closed at 8, -,Or, p.m. 363 HRR N4 JENSEN A-363 Preliminary Plat Approval MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen supported by Commissioner Stewart that the Planning Commission reccamend the City Council approve the request of Harry NJensenforaPrelimi=nary plat dated March 20, 1974,, subject to the followingconditions,- 1) onditions; 1) joint drives onto County Road 15 be developed for Lots 1 and 2 and Lots 3 and 4. 2) The recommendation of the Parks and Recreation Advisory Commission be made a part of this recommendation, i.e, should a cash donation be accepted this Mould amount to $150 per new lot, or a total of $750. 3) Variances be allowed for Lots 1 and 2 for lot area requirements. Commissioner Erickson wanted to know how the Staff arrived at the figure of 956 feet for the ponding. Mr..Dale explained that this was, the recommended high wafer mark for that area with Mr.Overhiser prefacing this with the fact that this was in connection with the 100 year flood as per the, with Storm Drainage Plan..: Chairman Kroski n suggested the word "that" be removed from he wordage in the conditions. No motion was made on this suggestion. MOTION CARRIED All in favor MOTION CARRIED 8 LUNDG EI 9 0THcR - 58 Prez imi nary Plat Approval Commissioner Davenport stepped down from; this discussion. MOTION was made: by Commissioner Erickson supported by Commissioner Stewart that the Planning Commission recommend the City Council approve the request of Lundgren Brothers for a Preliminary Plat for "Fairfield Estates", doted April 11, 1974:, subject, to the following conditions: 1) Storm draincge from 29th Avenue West: be designed as per City Eng'ineer's specifications. 2) Drainage and utility easements as per the City Engineer's recommendations be shown on the Final Plat, 3) The recommendations of the Parks and Recreation Advisory Commission be made a part of this recommendations, with a cash payment amounting to $1,800 to satisfy Park Dedication requirements. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES` - 4 - May 1, 1974 4) The Final Plat show Lot 10 Block 2 with an area of 18,500 syjare feet or greater when submitted, MOTION CARRIED (6-0-1) (Commissioner Davenport abstaining) MOTION CA-RRIED Cowissiover Davenport returned tc his chair, A-523 ROANOKE PROPERTIES, INC, CHANDLER-TOPIC, INC. A-523 Prel imi nary Plat Approval MOTION was made by Commissioner Stewart supported. by iss over Threinen that the Planning Commissizrt recommend the City Council approve the request of Roanoke Properties, Inc. (Chandler-Topic, Inc.) for a Preliminary Plat dated: March 29 1974, subject to the following conditions:' 1) A 30-foot right-of-way be dedicated to the City along the east portion of Cot 2 and along the North 80 feet of Lot 3 to provide: future public access to those properties to the east at such time as they develop. 2) The ten-foot utility easements along all public. street rights-of-way and six-foot utility easements along all other property lines be shown on the Final Plat. Comissioner Schneider asked if it was necessary to put in an extension street off County Road 10 to the site as shown on Staff's sketch dated November 27, 1973. Commissioner Threinen Wiled .his attention to the fact that Lot 3 does not enter onto County Road 10 on the Preliminary Plat dated March 29, 1974. Chairman. Kroskin wanted to know what the developers planned when they were before the Planning Commission on December 5, 1973. Mrd Overhiser stated they wanted to use the center of the street as the lot line previously, and they have shifted the lot line and created different lots showing the 30-foot right-of-way being dedicated to the City for future street. Chairman Kroski;n wanted to know if the access off Lot S would be off the future cul-de-sac, Mr. Dale stated this was correct, MOTION CARRIED All in favor, MOTION CARRIED Lot Division Unplatted Property Assistant Planner Mint Dale intraiued this request. This lot: is located south of the lot that Alfred Eberle requested be divided at the Planning Commission meeting of April 17, 1974. Petitioner was granted approval for a division of this property, by the City Council on July 15, 1968, and petitioner was undo- the assumption it had been recorded as such but at the t,&nx time. they wanted the entire acreage under homestead and thus the division, was not reorded,. Petiticrier has now sold the one parcel and is desirous of recording this division.. In addition, petitioner is requesting a divlidon of Parcel "B" from the larger Parcel "C". Staff recommended this di vi 4-ic,,, with the conditions listed in their report. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING BINilTES MAY 1, 1974 Mr. and Mrs. Joseph Eberle, 301 S. Sheland Parkway, were present at the meeting to answer questions of the. Commissioners. Chairman Kroskin stated the only thing he: had in mind was the mixup :and did not understand why it had not been recorded after the previous approval.. The Eberles`explaned that it was approved in 1963 but they did nothaveit recorded for tax purposes because they wanted the whole parcel under homestead. Mr. Eberle stated they sold the house and they are still being taxed for it and so they were coming back for formal division. Chairman: Kroskin asked if they were aware of the conditions recommended by the Staff. They stated they did but did not understand the: joint driveway requirement and were opposed to it,. Planner Overhiser stated they recommended one driveway onto the -street for both houses. After several comments and a moredetailed explanation by the Eber l es relating to grade and slope of the strmet arW lot and their plans for future development of these lots, Commissioner figgen stated he thought there were extenuating circumstances that existed that would create a" hardship on the petitioner and he suggested they drop Condition 3 as recom;nended by the Staff. MO110N was made by Commissioner Hagen, supported by Commissioner Threinen, that the Planning Commission recommend to the City Council that they approve the request of Joseph J.Eberle for a division of unplatted property as per survey dated April 9, 1969, subject to the following conditions: 1) A cash donation of $300 for the creation of two new lots (Parcel "A" and Parcel "B") be paid into the Park Dedication Fund. 2) An additional seven feet be: dedicated along Zachary lane to the City for a ;street right-of-way purpose. Chairman Kroskin wanted to know if it was the policy of the Staff to look at the property in question and if so, why was it not done in this case. Planner Overhiser stated it was the policy but they had not done so in this case as there just was not enough time and the Staff did have aerial photos ar;d topography maps to help them evaluate the situation, Commissioner Threinen was concerned about what their future plans were for Parcel C", would they be coming back and requesting subdivisions of this also. Planner Overhiser s,toted that most of the Parcel "C" is swamp and has been exempt from water- and sewer charges. He further stated that provisions could be added to the Preliminary Plat requirements to prevent this subdivision. Commissioner Threinen then asked the,Eberles if they had any plans, to which they replied that they were going to build their home on the lot next to Parcel "B". The Council had earK given them approval for five lots along Zachary Lane, but the first lot would e to remain open, Commissioner Threinen stated in other words they have the right to cut off one more lot with Mr. Eberle stating this was correct. MOTION CARRIED All in favor MOTIONCARRIED PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES fi May 1, 1974 A-568 GERALD J. PROFIOST A-563 Conditional Use Permit Assistant Planner Milt Dale introduced this request of Mr. Provost to install hydrstatic testing equipment in his garage and: use it to test scuba tanks. There would be no outside employees as the petitioner intended on perfornnifing this work himself and planned on a pickup and delivery service so there would be no undue traffic in the area resulting from this service. Mr. Dale stated that, Staff recommended approvalsubject to the two conditions given in the report. Gerald Provost was not present at the meet .x,,C , although Planner Overhi ser assured the Commissioners he and his ne;ghbor l bad been notified. Chairman Kroskin remat°K-'u that he felt Mr. Provost si ou ' appear before the Planning Commission himself to answer questions by the CGS"issioners. Commissioner Threinen was wondering how far we should go with these home occupations and professional services performed in the ,homes, to which Chairman Kroskin replied that that was why Conditional Use Perm4ts were set up so the Planning Commission could review the plans and; control the. situation. MOTION was made by Commissioner Stewart, supported by Commissioner Schneider that the request of Gerald J. Provost be deferred until he can be present. MOTION CARRIED (6-0-1) (Commissioner Threinen abstaining) MOTION CARRIED A-56 . d NER' SPRA ECH MRP. 564 Site Plan and Conditional Use Permit Chairman Kroskin stepped down because he was involved in the sale of the property to the developer, and turned the Chair over to Vice -Chairman Hagen. Assistant ;Planner Milt Dale explained the proposal of the petitioner to construct a large warehm;e lianufacturi.ng facility of approximately 40,000 square fees: with approx;mately 9,000 square feet for office use and with expansion of up to about 72000 square feet at some future time. The proposal was of such design that primary expssure would be towards I-494 but the private driveway would be from Fernbrook, The site covers 15.6 acres. He stated the Staff recommends approval of the site plan subject to the nine conditions listed in their report. 41a71,y l.ESaloyich, 4307 Quebpc Avenue North, represents the Spray --Tech Corp. in this area. Mr. Salovich explained the background of Spray -Tech Co., which is e wholly owned ;subsidiary of 1,.Wagner Co. of Friedrichshafen, 'West Germany. The J. Wagner Co. was formed to 1970 and: is engaged in the manufacturing, dii,"icributing and sales of electric airless paint spray equipment. Four years ago they started in Brooklyn Center and two years ago moved to their ,New Nope facilities where they employ about 50 people. They anticipate their requirements at the Plymouth site will call' for 200 employees in five to ten years, to work in the general office, assembly area and distribution areas. They are also concerned about aesthetic considerations and the building will be designed so as to maintain the aesthetic value of the land. Their time calls for construction of the building in the wilddle of 1975. He then introduced Glen Lund, Vice -President for Engineering and Manufacturing. her. Lund showed the Planning Commission members drawings of the model showing `be building layout with office space on two floors of 9,000 square feeteach floor (totalling 18,000 square feet of office) and 28,000 square' PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES - 7 - May 1, 1974 feet of manufacturing. space. Their basic -manufacturing process is to have raw materials come in one side with the product built, stored and shipped,out on the other side.. Chairman Kroskin asked what building materials would be used. Mr. Lund introduced Kee Vesterland, Architect with Benson Architects, Bass Creek Office Building,, who stated they were contemplating using split face block around the building itself, and the office portion will be of black with black curtain panels in between. Commissioner Erickson qu( -n-ed the amount of parking facilities for the 200 employees estimated to be - ,,.ing there. Mr. Lund stated that the original site plan calls for parking for vehicles, which will be sufficient for the immediate needs when the plan opens, bur as the future growth develops towards the 200 employee figure, they will have: to double their parking along each side of the present facilities. Commissioner Hagen asked what the Ordinance requirements were for parking. Mr. Dale related that the Ordinance requires ten parking spaces for the first 1,000 square feet of office space and one parking space for every 500 square feet, and that the petitioner plans on adding parking spaces along the south and north sidesasthey grow. When Commissioner Hagen pointed out the fact they are providing only 96 to 98 spaces as it nownow stands-, Mr., Lund stated that the office is being built to accotmmodate the total plan but the parking requirements will handle the needs at this point and more will be provided as they develop in the future: Commissioner Hagen asked where the power line easement was on the property and whether the building arras under the easement. Mr. Lund showed on the drawings where the lines would be and stated a portion of the building would be under the easement. Coimmissioner Threinen asked if they had authority from Northern States Power to build there, which Ross L. Thorfinnson, Lite petitioner's attorney, indicated they had Northern States Power Co. approval. Commissioner Tiireinen asked Mr. Lund that since they were concerned about the exposure from I-•494, what were their plans for a sign or sighs. Mr. Lund drew attention to the photos of other plants and said the signs are subtle, low, and require about 400 square feet of surface, Mr. Lund stated. one sign would face the Freeway and the other Fernbrook. These sighs match the image on all their plants throughout the world. Commissioner Erickson informed Mr, Lund that the: Ordinance requirements were that the signs not extendabove the roof line of the building, and if they were dropped down on the face of the building,; he could seg: no objection. Planner Overhiser stated the Staff recommended that the sign be approved by the Planning Director for when they submitted the site plan, the sign pian was not included; with the Staff recommending that no variances be: granted. Mr. Thorfinnson stated ;he sign was below the height requirements being only four feet in height above the roof, tomo issioner Hagen pointed out that the Ordinance drafted specifically states that you do not have a mezzanine or a sign stinking up above the roof line. Mr. Thorfinnson also pointed out the fact that tate Wilding height itself of only 26 feet is well below the requirements of the City and wondered if the sign protruding only four feet above the root line real,ly was as mush a problem as it appears. PLANNING COMMISSIOR ;MEETING MINUTES 8 - May 1, 1974 Commissioner Hagen asked what ;use they intended to make of the narrow strip intheCutlot. Mrs Lund stated they had to take that in order to get the rest ofthelandwithMr. Thorfinnson adding that it could be used for parking if needed, and at the present it would be used as open space. Commissioner Stewart.was concerned about Condition in the Staff Report about the requirement for .a joint driveway and wanted to know how this lined up withtheBel. Mar site to the north.: Mr. Overhiser stated that the recommendation was for a joi nt driveway commonly shared by both with the Council earlier not approving of a private drive for Bel Mar, Mr. Overhiser stated they were again recommending this joint driveway but if the Council did not approve of it, the alternative was to go out the southwest corner as a private driveway over future 17th Avenue onto Fernbrook. As this was some distance from the proposed buildings, Commissioner Hagen wanted to know why the Council objected to the private drive. Councilman Neils, in the audience, stated there were two reasons. one was they did not want to get mixed up in the ccnditions between private properties, and secondly, they did not know how the property south of Bel Mar would be developing as, it could end up with three or four parcels with individual driveways. Mr. Overhiser stated BelMar has no access from their s to onto Fernbrook as it now stands. They still. want their drive on the southwest corner of their property. Rather than one: drive for each Staff is recommending a joint drive as Staff feels that the Council might not now object when they see how the Spray -Tech site is being developed. Commissioner Erickson suggested a boulevard type drive that could be used jointly by both Bel Mar and .Spray -Tech. Also consideration was given to a possible future access thru to Cheshire Lane should that be extended. Mr.lund stated they would be willi,n to dedicate the land' necessary for this future street as it would give.them access, out two ways., one onto Fernbrook and one cnto Cheshire and would be advantageous when they reach their employment of 200 if they could have a 30 foot private driveway at this time but were definitely opposed to sharing a driveway with another fira. MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Commissioner Davenport that the Planning Commission recommend the City Council approve of J.Wagner/Spray- Tech Corp. for a Site Plan dated April 19, 1974 and for approval of a Conditional Use Permit for a manufacturing use in an I-1 District, subject to the following conditions: 1) Seven feet of additional right-of-way on Fernbrook Lane be granted to the City. 2) Thirty feet of additional right--of-way on the south side of the; property 17th Avenue North Extended) with provision for a 50 -foot radius cul-de-sac be designed to,facilitate the construction of a: public road at such time in the future as the adjoining property develops. This right-of-way should be dedicated to the City for u.se as a public road, 3) Petitioner comply with the: power line easements as established by Northern States Power along I-494. 1 I PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES - 9 - May 1 19,74 4) The recommendations of the Fire Chief relative -to the placement of fire lanes be a part of this recommendation.. 5) The recommendations of the Parks and Recreation Advisory Commission be rude a part of this recommendation. A cash donation to the Park Dedication Fund would amount to $7,800 (15.6 acres x $500). G) All storage of waste., garbage and. materials be within the building. 7) Variances :be permitted for sign placement to enable 400 square feet of sign surface, eight feet in height of the, building, with sign design ;as shown on Site Plan Elevations No. 3., 8) A landscape bond be posted and a completion date be established, prior to any building permit being issued. MOTION. TO AMEND THE MAIN MOTION was made by CommissionerErickson supported by Commissioner Schneider to add "That a 30 foot, drive as shown be approved with the possible future culmination with the property to the north to farm a boulevard street if such becomes desirable." After further comments, it was decided that this should be put into two conditions. MOTION TO AMEND THE AMENDMENT was made by Commissioner Erickson supported by Commi=,sioner Schneider to read as follows;, Condi tion 1 the drive be planned such that it could be incorporated with a future ccvon public road between parcel to the north and. this parcel. Condition 2 - A private drive be permitted at 17th Avenue within the 30 foot easement at the south of the property." Its was felt that this could be in one condition but separate sentences. MOTION TO AMEND THE AMENDMENT was made by Commissioner Stewart :supported' by Commissioner Threinen so the condition be stated as follows: "A private drive be permitted at 17th Avenue within the 30 foot easement deleting everything else. MOTION TO AMEND THE AMENDMENT CARRIED (5-1-1) Commissioner Erickson opposing, Commissioner Kroskin abstaining) AMENDMENT CARRIED Vice -Chairman Hagen then called for a vote on the Motion to Amend the Main Motion which would add the last sentence under Condition 1 as given by the: Staff Recommendations;, as follows "A private drive be permitted at 17th Avenue within the 30 -foot easement.,' 10 MOTION TO AMEND THE MAIN MOTION CARRIED (6-0-1) Commissioner Kroskin abstaining) AMENDMENT CARRIED PLAWNG COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES 10 May 1 197 MOTION TO AMEND THE MAIN MOTION was made by Commissioner Stewart supported by Commissioner Erickson that Condi ti cyn 7 of the Motion made by Commissioner Threi nen be changedto read as follows: "Vo variances be permitted for sign placement and to read as given in Condition 8 of Staff's recommendations". Commissioner Stewart felt they could incorporate the sign design into the buil-ding without protruding above the, building and believed we should stay with the. honing Ordinance. Vice -Chairman Hagen felt they had not attempted to design the sign in accordance with the Zoning Ordinance. after further dis- cussion, Mr. Lund stated they really had not looked into this particular matter as thoroughly as they should and he felt they could work within the requirements. MOTION 10 AMEND THE MAIN MOTION CARRIED (5-0-2) Commissioners Threinen & Kroskin abstaining) AMENDMENT CARRIED Attorney Thorfinnson questioned the amount of money being requested to be donated to the Park Dedication Fund. Planner Overh ser explained the ordinance reads either land or cash equal to ten percent of the value of the land but not to exceed $500 per acre. No further questions or discussion, MOTION CARRIED (6--0-1) (Cammissioner Kroskin abstaining) MOTION CARRIED Meeting was recessed at 9:50 p.m. Meeting reconvened at 10:05 p.m. Chairman Kroskin returned to his chair, A-561 VA INVESTMENT CORP. A-561 Site Plan Review Assistant Planner Dale introduced this request. The petitioner was proposing to build three industrial buildings for a number of users at the southeast corner of Water Circle and Xenium Lanc as Phase 1 in a three-phase construction plan, The plan complies with the Ordinance requirements as for parking and the other requirements.. Staff recommends .approval subject to the eleven conditions listed in the report. Richard W. Anderson, 31.31 Fernbrook Lane No., is a principal with this fins along with Claire Vol.p, 880 Colorado Av. So., who were both present at the meeting. Commissioner Erickson asked if the 20 -foot tight -of -way along Xenium and the set- back requirements would require a variance. Mr. Dale said it would' but only the parking was in violation, not the building. Mr. Overhiser stated that on several previous -cases ,before on Xeni'um Lane, the City has asked for the 20 -foot right-of-way but figured their setbacks from the existing street right -of --way, MOTION was made by Commissioner Stewart supported by Commissioner Threinen that this action be deferred on the grounds that there was no sign design and it is a condition of the Site Plan Approval that the Planning Commission have the sign design with the Site Plan PLANNING COMMISSIONMEETING MINUTES - 11 - May 1, 1974 Mr. Anderson informed the,; Commissioners they felt there was no need for -a sign on these buildings as there would be no identification on the building,; as the only identification would be small signs by each truck dock, and they wire not asking for any large type signs. There was a discussion as to whether a 1x4' identification; sign constituted a nameplate sign, and as such should it have: baen included on the Site.. Plan. Mr, Dare stated he. left it off the report as he understood there were to be no signs ,at o11. Cohnissioner Stewart withdrew his motion, following by Commissioner Threinen''s withdrawal MOTION was made by Commissioner Stewart supported by Commissioner Davenport that the Planning Commission recommend the City Council approve the request of VA Investment Co. for a Site Plan =subject, to the following Conditions; 1) No drive entrances be permitted on Xenium Lane or County Road C. 2) An additional 20 feet along Xenium Lane and ten feet along County Road 6 be dedicated for street right-of-way purposes, and the front yard setbacks be figured from the existing right-of-way for parking only. 3) A 30 --foot truck lane be created along the east side of the property to facilitate truck movement along the building's east side, 4) The recommendations of the Fire Chief relative to the placement of lire lanes be a part of this recommendations. 5) The recommendations of the Parks and Recreation Advisory Commission be made a pant of this recommendation. A cash donation to the, Park Dedication Fund would amount to $3,850 (7.7 acres x $500). 6) All storage of waste, garbage and materials be within the building/buildings. 7) No sign variances be permitted. 8) A landscape bond be posted and a completion date be established prior to any building permit being issued. 9) Any users of the building requiring a Conditional Use Permit make application to the City prior to occupancy. 10) The .recommendations of the City Engineer relative to storm drainage be made a part of this recommendation, 11) The future buildings shown on•the Site Plan are not approved by this action. There was some discussion regarding' a second driveway or access but was not continued when it was pointed out that Condition 11 boi`nts out that they will be f 1 ' PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING 14LTNUTES - 9 _ May 15 174 told there was a certain package of amenities to be provided, but this seems to vary with different salesman. Also: the developer is exercising his control as to when these fa-;.'ilities are going to be made available. He added that the developers hold a majority on. the Board of Directors of the Association, so i effect the home owners hove little control; the developers continue to hold this majority until 1976 or until all of the units are sold. Due to this fact, the home owners were asking for support from the Planning Commission. They were concerned about the cutting down of the trees to provide the parking spaces near the pool where it is planned in the proposed addition. The, original area proposed for the pool is open space; the proposed pool area is covered with trees. The trees were a substantial plus when they decided to buy in this location and many have died already, some because they were bulldozed out, some because adjacent trees were removed or blown over, Mr. Nellist states he represents about 100 members in the.Association. Bruce A. Armstrong,'2712 Terraceview Court, had nothing to add to what had already been`discussed and echoed what Mr. Netlist had already brought out. Mr. Metz stated they had performed a surface test of the soil in an area near where the pool was origi'ytally planned and felt it would not support the pool. M,r. Armstrong spoke up and stated he did not think the homeowners would object to the pool in the 3rd Addition as pv^oposed by the Developer. Mr. Qverhiser Stated the Staff's position was that if they moved the pool to the proposed location, the recreational building should be built adjacent and parking provided for both, feeling that residents would drive to the meetings and activities Mr. Nellist agreed with this statement but asked that as many trees be saved as possible, MOTION was made by Commissioner, Stewart supported by Commissioner Erickson that the ^tanning Commission make the following recommendation to the City Council TW, the request of Shenandoah Development Corp. for approval of a revised Site: Plan dated May 7, 1974 and Final Plat approvalL be approved subject to the following conditions: 1) Drainage and utility easements as per the City Engineer's recommendations be shown on the Final Plat. 2) The recreation building which was to be constructed with the pool on the original plan be constructed with the pool in the .3rd Addition, and a park- ing area with at least 20 spaces be constructed west of the pool with 24 -foot access drive to east/west private street on the 3rd Addition. PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES - X3 - May 1, 1974 5) All storage of waste, garbage and materials be within the bu'iIding. 6) No signs be permitted, 7) The landscape bond be posted and completion date estabi shed prior to a. building permit being issued; 8) Any users of the building requiring a Conditional Use Permit make an application to the City prior to occupancy, 9) The future office -warehouse shown on the Site Plan i,s not approved by thisaction'.: Commissioner Stewart regvesW that it be a matter of record in the minutes that the petitioner agrees to 'che fact that there will be'no signs for thisSitePlan, MOTION CARRIED All in favor MOTION CARRIED OLD BUSINESS: A-338 MISSION PARTNERSHIP A--338 Concept Plan Review Commissioner Hagen asked if the Mission Partnership was going to be on the nextCouncilagenda, Mr. Overtihiser stated this would be the case. Chairman Kroskin read a letter from Rick Ackerman commending the action of the Planning CommissionontheMissionPartnershipproposal, A-131 IMPERIAL HILLS ANNEX A-131 Revision of Final Plat After the preliminary plat was approved; it was learned that the portion of 18th Avenue lying between the developer's property and Olive Lane had previouslybeenvacatedso18thAvenuewillbeshownasacul-de-sac and not extended to the east to connect with Olive Lane. A motion to authorize the change was needed. MOTION was made by Commissioner Stewart that the Planning Commission authorize the Chairman to sign the Revised Final Plat, supported by Commissioner Erickson. MOTION CARRIED (6-0»2 Commissioners Schneider and Davenport abstaining) MOTION CARRIED A-331 SHILOH A-331 Final Plat and Development Contract Planner Overhiser statea that the Preliminary Plat had been approved by theCouncil, The Final Plat has some changes in it, some of the lots have been shifted. Outlof "B" would be the major portion of the park, Outlof "A" connects to the Ponderosa and the remainder will cone in at some later date, possibly nextfall:, and will be known as Outlo:t "C". The pond has been deepend and reduced in surface area, and there stiYl is room for the baseball field. The opening at the no,th end of the trail has been opened up more and made wider. PLANNING COMMISSION 148ETINC MINUTES - 14 - May 1, 1974 MOTION was made by Cottttnisslooer Threinen supported by Commissioner Stewart that the Planning Commission approve of the changes in the Final Plat. MOTION CARRIED All in favor MOTION CARRIED A-266 SHERANDOAH DEVELOPMENT THIRD ADDITION A-206 Planner Overhiser stated the Staff wanted guidance on this. They are suggesting recommending this be approved as an amendment to petitioner's general plan without any further public hearing and that it be final platted in this manner: First, Second and Third Additions. They are pvoposing shifting more to patio homes from the originally planned townhouses, originally 74 units and now it is to be 72 units on ten acres is this parcel. The change was trade as the developers have found that the market is for patio homes rather than townhouses.. Also they have reduced the open space and given more private lot area to the patio homeoccupants.. Chairman Kroskin stated that originally they came in with apartments, then did a market study and changed to townhouses, and now are back again. Further comments were made on the public open space rearrangement relative to those homeowners i the First and Second Additions. MOTION was made by Commissioner Stewart supported by Commissioner Threinen that the matter be deferred until the Planning Commission has more information avail- able regarding the reduction in public open space and the rear ,yard requirements, MOTION CARRIED All in favor MOTION CARRIED OTHER BUSINESS: Cow,iissioner Hagen wanted to know if anyone attended the meeting at the Metro Counci=l from the Staff regarding costs of housing. Mr. Dale stated that Roger Barnes of the Housing Committee did attend and the Staff has received a copy ofthereport. Commissioner Stewart offered a report from U.S.D.A in which it states you can build a house for $10,000. A short discussion followed on this matter. The minutes of the Planning Commission MeeVt,;, oft April 1.7, 1974 was presented and several corrections requested MOTION was, made by Commissioner Threinen supported by Co,f flssioner Erickson that the minutes of the Planning Commission dated April 17, 1974 be accepted as amended. MOTION CARRIED (6-0-1) (Commissioner Stewart abstaining) MOTION CARRIED PLANNING COMMISSION- MEETI 4, MINUTES - 15 - May 1., 1974 MOTION was made: by Commissioner Schneider supported by Commissioner Threinen that the meeting be adjourned at 1.0455 p.m. MOTION CARRIED, All in favor MOTION CARRIED APPROVED 'BY PLANNING COMMISSION Jona 55. 1974 Reg Kroskin, Chairman Planning Commis i'on, City of Plymouth Martin W. Overhiser, Secretary