HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 11-07-1973PLANNING COMMISSION
VILLAGE BJP PLYMOUTH MINNESOTA
November 7 1013x
A regular meeting of the Planning Commission was called to order by
Chairman Xroskir at 7:39 p.m in the Council Chambers of the Public
Wdrks Building.
MEMBERS PRESENT. thairman %ro:kin, Commissioners Hagen, Threinen,
Erickson, JoSson and Majha.
MEMBERS ABSENT: Commissioner Stewart:
STAFF PRESENT Martin Overhiser, Milt Dale, Georgia Rehbein
A498 Loeffel Engstrand 4781
Public hearing opened 7;40 p.m. Commissioner Erickson stepped
down from all discussion.
Planner Dale introduced the proposal and provided background LOEFFEL-ENGSTRAND
information with regard to the petitioner's proposal to rezone
the site located on the Nest Shore of Medicine Lake just north Rezoning R-1
of 26th .Avenue. He explained that the petitioner is now submitting to R-2 based
for Planning Commission Wan a revised General Development Plan on revised
involving a change in Jen° ity from 98 units to 80 units. Re General
added that the road align ;alt is changed with an east/test Development
road alignment connecting Kest Medicine Lake Drive and Evergreen Plan
Lane. He stated that siting and dwelling unit relationships
remain the same, with single famile and duplex clustering of
units on cul de sacs in an attempt to preserve the natural
characteristics of the site.
Mr. Leonard Lau,. Secretary -Treasurer for Loeffel-Engstrand,
introduced Barry Engen, Site Planner. Mr Engen outlined changes
that had been made in the proposal, highlighting the reduction
in total family units and site density from 98 to 80 units
reducti z from 3.4 to 2.8 units per gross acre) and the change
in the z .ovate road network to include a 60 foot right of way
from Wes, Medicine Lake Drive to Evergreen Lane. He explained
that the original plan had shown a: private street system with
two access points - Medicine Lake Drive and Evergreen Lane
The revision involves a linear corridor between West Medicine
Lake Drive connecLing to Evergreen Lane including a public right
of way and private cul de sacs off the right of way to accommodate
unit locations As a result, total roadway surface- will: be reduced
by 1,000 feet. He explained that units will be clustered in more
specific ,areas, thus isolating them from one another. He added.
that space betueen units has been enlarged because of the
reduction in density.
He explai.nod that setbacks, a major concern on the initial plan.,
are now 75 feet from the north property kine, SO feet from the
shoreline, and 75-90 feet from the south property line.
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Mr, hngen stated that they had analyzed the: possibility of site
devopment in a typical single family fashion, and had concluded
that due to terrain factors, it would be impossible to develop
the site in this manner without seHous site damage. He explained
that their concept is smaller lots and single Amily dwelling units
on a rot of 4,000 to 5,000 square feet, with all lots having access
to common space via a trail/open space ne G--)rk connecting units
to the common area along the lak.eshore
My. Roger Conhaim, Marketing Analyst, stated that this development
satisfies a need in our society today for smaller more compact units
with open space provided for increased leisure, with people retaining
a yard and garden, but having 'the major exterior maintenance work done
by a homeowners association to which they automatically belong when
they purchase a home.
Mr. Conhaim stated that they hope to provide moderate cost housing
in. 10% of the development, and, following the guidelines specified
in lower interest mortgages, these homes would be completely integrated
into the community. He added that alternatives and potential incentives
are being discussed with staff.
Commissioner Hagen questioned if there was any reason why the site
could not be developed following the same concept, but at a density
of 2.36 units per net acre. Mr. Conhaim replied that reducing the
density would create larger units, raise the price range from $45,000 ..
4jo655,
000 to $55,000 $65,000 and would ultimately change the entire
character of this community. Commissioner Eagan questioned why
other single family developments are able to comply with the 2.36
net units per acre and still provide homes below the $50,000 bracket.
fir., Conhaim responded that the terrain conditions on this site are
very difficult to work with; in addition, the buildable area of the
site is very limited without massive grading He stated that it
would be difficult to get Ettore than 35 single family lots on the
entire site without doing severe damage to the natural characteristics
of the site following traditional single family platting. Commissioner
Hagen stated that the same concept would be used, but with lesser units,
so the development would blend with what is trying to be achieved
in the area. Mr. Conhaim answered that this would be a matter of
economics and spreading development costs over fewer units. He
added that what is happening around the site should be taken; into
consideration in determining what price range is feasible.
Chairman Kroskin asked Air.. Conhaim to clarify the market segments
that would be most interested in this sort of development concept.
Air Conhaim explained that couples aged 25-34 would be interested
and 45-64 year old couples or single people moving from their
homes to a smaller, more compact home. Chairman Kroskin asked
Asir. Conhaim to estimate salary range of people who would be
attracted to this concept. Mr. Conhaim responded this would be
difficult because the younger segment would be at a range lower
than thoir income would ultimately be, ani the older segment salary
wange and available dawn payment would very according to equity
ined in their present homes.
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Gladys Rippe, owner of the property, stated that she believed this
would not be detrimental tG the area and added that
her neighbors, the Zureks:, are in 'complete agreement with the
development.
OPPONENTS
Mr. Dennis Danger, 11715 28th avenue north, explained that this
eve'opment hasmany positive features, but added that he has some
major concerns. He asked how many of the units are single and
duple: units. Mr. hngen responded that 24 units will be detached
and free standing and 56 will be attached. He added that the units
will not look like duplexes, so there is no reason to call them
that. fix.. Danger then questioned the percentage of land to be
developed on the revised plan as compared to the original plan.
Mr. Engen responded that the open land would actually be greater
than the original 80F because of the elimination of 1.,O00 feet of
roadway. fir. Danger stated his concern about the closeness of
some of the grouped housing to adjacent lots. Mr. Engen stated
that there will be a minimum of 75" from the edge of the house to
the edge of the property line,. Mr. hanger then asked about the
size of the docking area proposed. Mr. Engen replied that the
docking area would facilitate 80 boats; of any size, but added
that since no storage facility is provided, large boats will be
discouraged and the typical boats will be canoes, sailboats,
and. small fishing craft. Mr. Danger asked if rezoning to R-2
to allow this develpment would be a case of spot zoning. Planner
verhis,er responded that the term spot zoning is used in cases
where a small lot, for example, in a residential area is rezoned
to allow a commercial use; but would not apply in this case because
the ?8,5 acreage wou' make the area too large to be classified as
spot zoning.
With regard to density, Mr. Danger stated that he believed the
Planning Commission recommendation of 62 units should, be adhered
to, and the rezoning request should be honored for attaching units,
but not for increasing density. He stat,;d that he would hope the
Planning Commission would make sure that the distance between the
abutting property line and new homes will be 7S feet ,from the edge
of the houses to the property line,
Chairman Kroskin commented that the area directly across the street
from the site has a density of around 4 units per acre, whereas this
proposal: calls out 3 units per acre if the street is subtracted.
Dir. Danger stated that his concern is the density increase around
the lake -- if it goes beyond 2.36 units per acre, a precedent will
be set that will be detrimental to the entire a-4Ta and cause
additional problems with lake pollution.
Mr. Claude Heisch, 11735 .8th Avenue Horth, stated that he bought
liT-i iome ten years ago because he liked the single family feature.
Now, he staved, he would be able to see a development 75 feet from
is back yard. Chairman Kroskin responded that the objective is
o accofmAodate our population in the best type of development
possible for the land involved, notto keep land from developing.
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Ms_ itiiarian Doini gn1100Evergreennorth, rev,,inded the Commission
that s e aWd her neighbors have to live in the area. She wondered
ifan nvironmentrz impact Statement hast been written on the effect
this developme'at would have on the lake: She cautioned the Commission
on producing a 1985 slum:,
11,4r. John Mul:la,- , 1.184S 28th Avenue North, stated that this development
of in accordance with the recently adopted. Land Use Guide Plan,
adding that if this area is rezoned to It -2, it will become more
difficult to protect the lake property. Ile wondered if there is any
way a portion of the land: could be rezoned to R--2 whereby the maximum
density could be 62-65 units. He added that on --e a parcel is rezoned
to R-2, the letter of the law will allow, exclusive of right of ways,
12S units. He wondered what will prevent the developer from coning
back in within five years and requesting the density allowable by
law.. As for the connection to Evergreen ,Lane, Mr. Mullan stated
that lie agrees with the developeri that minimal traffic will come
from this development over Pvergreon Lane and up 28Th Avenue
therefore he,questioned the need for access to these streets
unless at is for emergency vehicles. He wondered if that
intersection could be modified by cul, de sacs and break away
barriers and landscape treatment so as to control through -traffic
down 28th Avenue North.
With regard to setbacks., he stated his concern about the nearness
of the clusters to the property Line, pointing out that the back
yard setback has to be 20% of the property depth, He wondered how
this could be determined on a parcel of Land such as this one.
qWHe wondered if the building could be pushed away fr= the neighbors
on the north..
Cie asked if retention of the open space could be legally assured.:
He stated that the developer is keeping cuts and fills to a Y#inimum
to destroy as little of 'the land as possible. As this is a
preliminary plan, Mr. Mullan ,yondered if the proposal is recommended
for approval at this point, tiara 11 the hammer over the developer
be lost that could assure that the wishes of the public are abided
by.
Chairman Kroskin pointed out that the proposal does not conflict with
the guide plan adopted in July. He stated that the guide plan shows
this area as LA -1, which would allow a density of 1-3 units per acre,
with this flexibility intended to be used to retain as much of the
terrain as possible. He stated that if the area were rezoned to
R-2 it would be based upon a General Development Plan and could not
be changed. Planner'Overhiser pointed out that this has been
successfully done in the Chelsea Woods and Tiburon developments
Mr. James Scheu, 1160 B North Evergreen Lane, stated that everyone
in t e area eli,eves they have an equal right to present zoning..
lie stated that it would be unfair to deviate from the density the
people expect in this area, namely, 2.36 dwelling units per acre
et. He believed that all abutting property owners should agree `to
he change in zoning.
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Mr. Dick Bertrand, 2655 lest Medicine Lake Drive, pointed out that
t rere aro 3.va iiiiersections in an area of about 1 1/2 blocks already
existing; he stated that he cannot see adding another intersection
in the middle of a block, but would rather see the road connect with
26th Auonue North. He wondered if sewer capacity is adequate to
handle this development. Planner Overhiser responded that it has
been found more safe to have a T-shaped intersection as opposed to
an intersection that has to be crossed because theme are less
turning movemonts involved. He added that sewer capacity is
adequate for this development.
A petition was presented to the Commission with 92 signatures
protesting the proposed rezoning of this property.
Commiss over Hagen pointed out that there is a very narrow strip
of land :Fronting on 28th Avenue that is not incorporated into this
plan. fie asked if it could not be possible that someday the: northerly
part of this project might be sold to incorporate this parcel into
the plan in order to create several buildable lots instead of one
very narrow lot. Planner Overhiser responded that the developer
could be encouraged to see if something could not be done along
the south side of 20th Avenue. Chairman Kroskin asked if ,Staff
could forsee any future problems with this narrow parcel,. Planner
Overhiser replied that it might be possible to create a small outlot
in the northwest corner attached to the subject property,. and this
could be provided for inthe preliminary platting stage. However.,
he assured the Commission that it would not be possible for this
eleveloper to sell off a narrow strip of the parcel without `pillage
approval.
Chairman Xroskin questioned fir. Engen if it would be possible from
a marketing standpoint to intermingle some quad units and thereby
build low cost housing units without changing the exterior., Mr.
Engen, replied that this could be an alternative as it has been done
elsewhere
Comissionex Hagen stressed that he believes it possible to build
units in the: present framework in the $35,000 bracket under an R ,
designation. Mr. Engen responded that: work will be done to prom
at least 101 moderate cost housing units.
Public fearing closed, 8:51 p.m -tearing Closed
MOTION was made by Commission Threin.en, supported by MOTION TO ACT
Commissioner Hagen, to take action on this request at the
present meeting.
Motion carried, -1, with, Chairman Kxaskin opposed,
Commissioner Hagen stated that he had reviewed information xegardiag
the 4 units per acre net density of the surrounding area,while
this proposal under the conditions -recommended by Staff would
evolve 3 units per acre net
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MOTION -was made by Commissioner. Hagen, supported by Commissioner i'JOTION TO
WJohnson., that the request of Lceffel-Engstrand for rezoning from RECO*TEND
1 to R-2 based on a revised General Development plan dated APPROVAL:
October 15, 1973 be recommended for approval subject to the
following conditions
1) 62 units are to be placed on tl.e site, with a bonus of
18; units to be granted if 10Q of the units within the
development aremade available for moderate income
families.
2) That a 40 foot wide walkway and utility easement alone
West Medicine Lake Drive be dedicated to the Villaue as
recommended by the Parks and Recreation Advisory
Commission and a cash donation as required.
3) That the pond on West Medicine Lake Drive be maintained
in its natural state,
4) That building and parking setbacks of at least 3a' be
maintained From proposed 27Th Avenue.
5) That 20 additional parking spaces be provided in the
Community Center/Te-anis Area
6) That the construction of housing units maintain a
minimum of 75' setback from the north and south
property line of the site.
Commissioner Threinen stated his disagreement, adding that the
density in this proposed project is excessive and bonus units
should not be the motive for providing moderate cost housing.
ie stated further that the developer has selectively conformed
s"ith the recommendations o:E vtne Planning Commission at the Committee
of the Whole meeting September 12, 1973 --but on the issue of density,
they have not conformed.
Commissioner Hagen stated he agreed; however, he stated he would
suggest bonus units as a way to get the land cost down so the
developer can conform to the required 10% moderate cost housing.
MOTION carried, 4-1, Commissioner Threinen opposed for the reasons CARRIED
stated above.
Jim515 Etoc/Medicine Ridge E515 ETOL/iMEDICINE
RIDGE
Public Hearing opened, 9;01 p.m.
Preliminary
Planner Dale introdurad the proposal, indicating that tho Plat
petitioner plans to plat art 13 acre area into 32 single family
lots. He stated that Staff is recommending that the Planning
Commission recommend Counc4l approval subject to three conditions.
Rick Sathre, McCombs-Knut4on Associates, stated he would represent
topeboner.
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Commissioner Threinen questioned if it is necessary foxLot 1,
Block 2 to be set up as a triangular lot. Mr. Sathre replied that
staff had requested , that 28th Avenue be put in as street with the
grade h,,.,1,Jto a, minimum due to the topography, thus the lot had to,
be put in at that location. lie stated that the original proposal
would have placed 28th Avenue further to the south.
Commissioner Hagen pointed out that the Pilgrim Lane intersection
is at right angles to an, unplatted street as it now exists.
Chairman Kro:skin wondered what the price range of the hones would
be. Mr. Sathre indicated he did not knoiT. Commissioner Erickson
wondered if the setback had been evaluated in terms of buildable
area. Mr. Sathre answered that in most cases the lots will be
roughly 301 x 601, and sufficient buildable area will. be available.
Commissioner Threiaen wondered if the intent is to custom build and
sell the homes off or have one home at a time built on speculation.
Mrs Sathre stated that he believed the intent was to custom build,
After some calculation, Commissioner Hagen determined that Lot 12,
Block 1, would be the most difficult lot to build on, with 35 feet
left to build a house on after subjecting front and rear setbacks.
He added, hoimver, that this -can be done.
Mr. Joe Marciniak, 2805 Quaker Lane, stated -that his property abuts
28th Avenue 'E6-f-Ee north and lie questioned how much of his fence
ould be taken by this development. Mr Sathre indicated that the
oundary of the Medicine Ridge Plat was established by monuments
as previously determined by the court, thus the development will
not encroach on Mr. 'Marciniak's property. Mr. Marciniak stated
that several years ago he had hired an attorney and surveyor to
establish property lines, without success, so had been hoping that
the proposed de-elopment would not des -troy part of his fence.
Mr,_ Allen StensTud wondered if the Planning Commission or Staff
has lookeT—In_t_o--TTIe future development of Quaker Lane as far as
north/south streets. Planner Overhiser stated that the collector
street in, this area would be on 28th Avenue. Mr. StensTud asked
how this related to the plans on the north. Planner Overhiser
replied that a collector street has been started thxough.Tib-Liron,
with the most feasible extension of that street being straight
south in line with Orleans connecting with 28th Avenue at Orleans.
28th Avenue would run from County Road 18 frontage -road to
Pilgrim Lane in the area, so the collector street would go down
28th, which, would run east and west. Mr. Overhiser added that the
Thoroughfare Guide Plan does show a through street in the area
Mr. Stensrud is asking about, but the Engineering Department has
determined that this is an impractical location for a street and,
in addition, the soils in this area appear to be poor.
Mrs. Vern Dalh ren, 2.665 Orleans Lane North, indicated that the lot
n -ront o t em' ias been vacated and wondered if that would be
pen.ed up or remain closed, Mr. Sathre indicated that this would
not be a street under the Medicine Ridge plat.
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Hearing Closed, 0:07 p.m >reaxing Closed
WOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen,, supported by Commissioner MOTION TO
Johnson, to take ,action on this proposal at the present meeting. ACT
Motion carried, all ayes, Carried
MOTION etas made by Commissioner Threinen, supported by Commissioner
Johnson, that the request of Etoc , Inc. for Preliminary Plat
approval for proposed Medicine Ridge be recommended for approval
sub; ect to the following conditions ;
1) That the recommendation of +he Parks and' Recreation
Advisory Commission be made ., pant of this recommendation.
Staff suggests that this take the form of 20 foot wide trail
easements at the ends of the two cul de sacs (27th Avenue
rind 28th Avenue North) facing toward Medicine hake to
partially satisfy park dedication requirements
2) That utility and, drainage easements as required by the
Village Engineer be part of this recommendation..
3) That Lot 1, Block 2 be shown on the Final Plat as Outlot
A and not be built upon until such time as it is
consolidated with the property, to the north.
Commissioner Erickson asked if the trail easements Mould reduce the
size of the lots adjoining the easements. Planner Overhiser answered
that the lot size would not be reduced, but that 10' of each lot
Wsetback area) would be open to the public.. Planner bale stated
that this easement would be similar to a utility easement, only
it would be used for walking, Commissioner Erickson stated that
this use would be much snore active than use by a regular utility
easement would be and i. 'cred if this would work., Planner Overhiser
cited the same th.injj done successfully in the 14illow
Ponds development. .Fie addedthat it is not a major trailway, but
rather just a means for people on the high ground to walk dawn 27th
and. 28th Avenue North to the lake, Commissioner Erickson commented
that the minimum lot width at building setbacks would require a
variance if this land were deeded to the Village
MOTION carried, o ayes. CARRIED
Vk7133 Sammy K. Allen - Pet Hospital A-133 SAMMT Y K4 ALLEN
Cat, bog, F pet
Public Hearing opened, 9:30 P.m: Hospital in l;-3
District
After discussion as to treatment of this use in. the
Business Districts, MOTION was made by Commissioner
Threinen, supported by Commissioner Hagen, that the MOTION TO
request of Sammy K. Allen for an amendment to the Zoning RECOMINIEND APPROVAL
Ordinance to allow by Conditional Use Permit dog, cat,
W,,cad pet hospitals in a E--3 ,Zoning District be recommended
or approval and added to Section 13, Subdivision 3 of the
Zoning Ordinance as Item 18
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Commissioner Threinen added that this section of the Ordinance badly
needs work, and Coliunissioner Erickson stated that a definition should
be provided for cat doh, and pet hospitals to make sure that a use
of this typee did not become a kennel, typeype use.: It was Hated that
a kennel would not be perpki.ted as kennels are allowed in the R -O
District by conditional itae permits.
MOTION carried unanimously. CARRIED
516 Satellite Industries K-=16 SATELLITE INDUSTRIES
Planner Dale explained that the proposed operation will take CUP'
place in the MIP Mini Industrial Park. Mixing 4 Packaging
Chemicals & Fluids
Commissioner Erickson questioned if the chemicals would in I-1 District
have any effect on sewage treatment. Jahn Noggle of
Carlson; - Companies introduced Phil_ Jvaire of Satellite
Industries, who answered that the operation will be
strictly mixing and packaging with no spilloff.
Commissioner Threinen wondered if a conditional use permit is:
needed because of the repackaging operation. Planner Overhiser
responded that any manufacturing or processing in an 1-1 District
requires a conditional use permits
4OTION was made by Commissioner Erickson, supported by CommissionerUtajka, that the request of Satellite Industries for a conditional: MOTION TO
use permit to utilize space within an industrial building at RECOMMEND
1320S Industrial Park Boulevard (Building D, Suites l and 2) APPROVAL
in an I.1. Distrix,;: for the mixing and packaging of chemicals
and fluids be recommended for apporval subject to the following
conditons
1) That all performance standards for azo I-1 District
be met (See Section 15, Subdivision: 8, Zoning Ordinance)
2) That fire lanes as established by the Village Fire Chief
be created
MOTION carried unanimously, CARRIED
1-S Minneapolis Park, & Recreation Board A-S1.7 MPLS PARK & REG,
BOARD
Planner Dale explained that this regaiest is for Site Plan
review of a metal building to be built on the Workhouse
property off Niagara Lane north of 21st Avenue., Ile added that Site Plan
the Minneapolis Park Board presently has an 80 acre nursery in Review
this area and the proposed building would be on the southeast
corner of the nursery site. The area would be landscaped,, and
the metal building would be used primarily for storage.. The
uilding would be used actively by Park personnel only a few
weeks during the year,
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Chairman Kroskin questioned Air, Have DeVoto, Park .forester, hogs
many persons would be employed at the peak of the season. Mr.•
DeVoto answered 8 to 19 persons at most. lie explained that the
building would be used primarily as a garage facility, with a
colt storage room use intended. He added that trees will be
stored in the facility during the winter so the spring plantingseasoncanbeextended
Chairman Kroskin asked the petitioner to explain the outside
exterior plans for the proposed building.. Mr., DeVoto answered
that they had initially considered a Butler -type building but
they are now considering a Balin-type construction which consists
of concave panels. Commissioner Erickson questioned the height
of the structure, Mr. DeVoto answered 14 feet
Chairman Kroskin asked how many nurseries the City of Mlnne 2polis
operates. Mr.. DeVoto answered one other nursery is operated, but
this is boing phased out because the 8 -acre area is too small for
the operation, and also the property is valuable for recreation
as it is lakeshore property.
Mr. DeVoto added that the objective of the Park.F Recreation
Board is to provide S,SCOtrees a year for Minneapolis' needs,
Commissioner Erickson pointed out that the proposed building is
set on a hill and wondered if it would not be imposing in this
location l+r. DeVoto stated that the building is not obvious41tfromthestreet, but added that the location of the building in
he area shown is not that crucial to their plana. Commissioner
Erickson, stated that the building may be better lecazuU3 closer
to the parking area, but added that the Punning Commission could
not require the petitioner to move the building.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen, supported by MOTION TO
Commissioner Hagen, that the request of the Minneapolis Park RECOWEND`
and Recreation Board for Site Plan approval of a Park Board APPROVAL
Service Venter Building ora Niagara Lane be approved subject
to the following conditions. -
1)
onditions,
1)' That a performance bond for landscaping improvements
be placed with the Village prior to Building Permit
approval.
2) That park dedication requirements be met when the property
is platted.
3) That special assessments; be resolved by Staff and Council.
MOTION carried unanimously. CARRIED
518 Fritz Gulli.ck.son IT -81.8 FRI"IZ J. GULLICKSON
Kanner Overhiser explained that Cc=;+.ty Road 61 may go Division ofovewhereinthevicinityofthesubjectsite, and it is
passible that Zinnia Lane may run along the east side of the Unplatted
propos-gd parcels , He stated that tie Thoroughfare Guide Plan Property
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shows County Road. 61 lying along the west side of the church on
the • south side of County Road 15. Hennepin County 11as indicated
that they hope to have completed before the first part of 1974
a route location study .from Hwy. 12 to the railroad tracks. Fie
added that it is still unkowx when this will be completed, but
Hennepin County will provide a more definite deadline in a week..
The City of Minnetonka, Planner Overhi,ser continued now has an
adopted Guide Plan and if the County can turn out route location
studies for this area, the best line of action would perhaps be
to defter action until that study is completed..
Planner Ovexhiser stated that if County Road 61 would run on the
west side of the subject property, the Village would require
additional right of gray. He added that even if the road were to
go on the east side of the property, this should perhaps be pa -rt
af the total picture when the property itselfis considered.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen, supported by Commissioner MOTION TO
Johnson, that action on this request be deferred until a reply is DEFER
received from Hennepin County.
MOTION carried unanimously. CARRIED
519 Advance Machine Company t\519
Tanner Dale explained that the petitioner is requesting
conditional use permit to allow assembly of machinery
in an I-1 District located on 21st Avenue between Niagara
and Fernbrook Lanes
ADVANCE MACHINES
CUP for,
Machinery Assembly
Chairman Xrosk,lr questioned what type of machinery would be
involved. Mr. art Leach, representing Advance tMa.chines, stated
that the mach- ..s would be commercial and industrial floor
maintenance machines of six types. Tie added that no manufacturing
process is involved
Commissioner Ericl,.,son asked if all storage would be inside. Mr.
Leach answered it would.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen, supported by Commissioner MOTION TO
Majka, that the request of Advance Machina Company for a RECOMMFND
Conditional Use permit to permit assembly of machinery in an APPROVAL,
I-1 District at 14600 21st Avenue North be recommended for
approval subject to the following conditions
1) That Performance standards as required in an I-1 District
be met.
2) That fixs lanes be established as per Fire Chief recommendations.
Mr. Leash questioned the nature of the fire lanes. Planner Dale
nswered that the fire lanes would be 20' wide, located at entrances
nd exits for emergency vehicles.
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MOTION carried unan3mousl.y. CARRIED
32 Schaper 1%1f A-372 SCHEIPER MFG,
Planner Dale explained that the peti.t oner requests site
plan approval of a 36,000 square feet add' -ion to the Site Plan
existing facility. This addition will be used primarily for Review
warehouse use., He added that Staff is reccmmonding approvalabjecttosixconditions
Commissioner Threinen pointed out that parking is only 5 feet
from the property bine on the extreme east and northeast corners
Uf the site*, He wandered if the parking requirements of 3,9
additional spaces could be achieved without a 5 foot variance,
Mr, John Roby, representing Schaper tifg.,seated.that the parking
dra wn in on the site plan is not necessary for parking between the
new addition and the existing facility. He stated that the -only
thing necessary there is, truck movement to the shipping doors in
the back, He stated that they will have no trouble picking up
20 additional spaces for parking, and added that they also otivn 4
acres across the ,.reet from the proposed addition,
Commissioner Erickson questioned if there would be any perf-,)rman.ce
bond for landscaping, as the Staff Report had noted that the
petitioner does not anticipate any additional landscaping, Wlanner Overhiser stated. that Staff would suggest that they do
some Landscaping, John Roby stated that the area behind the
Gruiaan building is screened, but added they will do what they can
Planner Overhiser stated that the major concexn is the lath Avenue
frontages
MOTION t.>as made by Commissioner Thrienen,, supported by Commissioner MOTION TO
ilagen, that the request of Schaper Mfg. Company for a Site Plan RECOMMEND
review appvoval of a proposed building addition to tie existing APPRUAL
plant (dated 10-26-73) be recommended for approval ,subject
to the following condi.tons
1.) That a performance bond for landscaping improvements be
planed with the Village prior to Building Permit approval
and that a Landscaping Plan be submitted to the Director
of Planning and Community Development for his approval.
2) That the recommendations of the Fire Chief in regard to
additional fire hydrants and the establishment of 20 foot
wide fire lanes at building entrances/ exits be made a
condition to Village approval.
3) That the park dedication requirements recommended by the
Parks and Recreation Advisory Commission be wade part, of
this recommendation, i.e.. with Staff recommending a cash
contribution of $480 for the 41,700 square feet to be
developed
4) That 19 addi.ti,onal.spaces for -parking be added -to the Site Plan
Planning Commission Minutes November 7, 1973
Sj That all storage of garbage and orate materials be within
the building.
6) That no parking setback variance be allowed and that all
Parking setba: S as per Ordinance requirements be maintained
MOTION carried CARRIED
5 0 Rork § Associates A-520 MORK [ ASSOCIATES
Planter Dale explained that the petitioner wishes site plan SIM PLAT
approval of an industrial building located at the southwest corner REVIEW
of Nathan Lane and lith Avenue North. Staff is recommending
approval subject to five conditons
Mr. Dempsey stork, petitioner, stated that the proposed building
would be a multi -tenant warehouse in which his company, a contracting
firm, will have an office. ke explained that the
building will be oblong in shape, overi.00xing 13th Avenue. He stated
that building space is designed to facilitate smallet type users
leasing from 3,000 to 5,000 ;quare feet, and tenants will primarily
be owner -occupants as opposed to national users
Commissioner Erickson stated that the drives are located so that
semis would have to enter parallel to the railroad tracks Mr.
Mork explained that the drives are slanted because of the size
1104f the semis, and putting them at an angle better services trucks,
Mr.. Mork added that this type of drive makes it possible for the
simi to back up and unload or unload from the side. Commissioner
Erickson pointed: out that angle drives on the street would :;eo
more appropriate because right angle intersections would be
creaved He then questioned parking spaces. Mr. Mork answered
that perking arrangements will be submitted to Staff, adding
that they will have no trouble meeting requirements outlined
by the Staff.:
MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen, supported by Commissioner
Erickson,_ that the request, of Mork & Associates, Inc. for a Site
Plan showing two building3at the southwest corner of Nathan Lane
and 13th Avenue North be recommended for approval, subject to the
following conditonst
1) That no sign variance be allowed, i.e. that all signs
be subject to the 50 foot setbacks in front yards as
required by the Ordinance,
2) That the park dedication requirements as recommended by
the Parks and Recreation Advisory Commission be made
a part of this recommendation. Staff recommends a
cash payment of $2,300 (4.,6 Ac y $500/Ac.) in lieu of
land.
3)- That a performance bond for landscaping and drainage
improvements be placed with the Village prior to Building
Permit approval
Planing. Commission Minutes 4- November 7, 197
4) That ten (10) additional parking spaces be provided on
the south . o the sa. e to e P replace .hose ,,...aces topP
be used :dor fire tan. s
5) That all waste and garbage be stored within the building.
OTION was made by Commissioner Erickson, supported by Commissioner MOTION TC
Johnson to amend the original motion by adding condlton #G; AMEND
G): Driveways are to be placed at right angles to the street.
iNIOTION TO ArMEND carried unanimously, MIENDMBNT CARRIED
ORIGINAL MOTION carried unanimously. CA.1RI13D
General Discussion
1) Upcoming Planning Comuuission Meetings: November 14, 1973 Work, Session -
Zoning Ordinance
December 5, 1973 - Regular Meeting
2) Planner Overhiser briefed the Commission on the Council Meeting of
November S with emphasis or. Nortkiern Nti rdin:g ` s proposed Aspen Way
and the Jerome Begin Conditional Use Permit renewal, request.
MOTI0N was made to approve the Minutes of 1.0-17-73 as printed, Motion 10-17-73
carried, with Commissioners Erickscn, Johnson and Majka abstaining. Minutes
MOTION to adjourn, 10:S8 p.m.
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Reg Kroskin, Chairman
Plymouth Planning Commission
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Martin W. Overhiser, Secretary
APPROVED BY PLANNING ' C0NWISSI0N December 5, 1973
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