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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 09-05-1973PLANNING COMMISSION VILLAGE OF PLYMOUTH, MI-NNESOTA September 5, 11,,13 regular meeting of the Planning Commission was called to order by Vfce Chairman Krosx '.n at 7,33 p.m,., in the Council Chambers of the Public Works Building on Wednesday, September 5, 1573, MEMBERS PRESENT: Vice Chairman Kroskin, Commissioners Hagen, Thre nen Erickson, Johnson, Stewart, aid Ma jka MEMBERS ABSENT: None STA;F PRESENT: Martin Overhiser, Kilt Dale, Georgia Rehbein I -A-46-6-1 NW Bell - Plymouth Office Addition 06 NW BELL The Public Hearing was openedat 7-,35 pm. by Vice Chairman Public Hearing Kroskin., Planner Ov erhiser explained that this re -nest by Northwestern Preliminary Bell involves a data processing center at the Northwest quadrant Plat/ of 49th Avenue and County Road 18. He stated that the Council Site Pian had previously rezoned property in this area and did grant a Conditional Use permit for this use. He indicated that the proposal before the Planning Commission at the present meeting involves a preliminary plat and detailed site plan showing Ondscaping, parking, and location of proposed buildings. Planner erhiser added. Staff recommends that the two requests of NW Bell be recommended for approval by 'the Council. sul, t to four conditions: 1. That petitioner provide the Village with a Performance Bond for landscaping as per landscaping- plan dated August 10, 1973 prior to Building Permit approval. 2. That proposed identification signs be approved as shown on the site plan. 3. That the park dedication requirements as recommended by the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission be made: part of this recommenda.tian. 4. That Final Plat and Development Contract deal with the street and utility requirements for this development and that a Building Permit not be issued until the Contract is approved by the Village Counc.l Planner Ovei hiser clarified condition 4 by stating that Council discussion is necessary on this matter, as utilities to 49th Avenue are non-existent at this time. He added that the Council will have to provide a timetable for extending services to this area before the project is started, Bob Peterson, NW Bell, indicated he would answer any questions the Planning 'GommissMion might have 181mmissioner Erickson commented that he believed a variance of 4 feet would be necessary to allow 100 square feet of sign when the Ordinance specifies 96 square feet., Planning Commission Minutes September 5, 1913 Public, Hearing closed,,. 7:40 pm,, Hearing Closed TIOtt was made by Coml,",issioner Hagen, supported by MOTION TO ACT/ mmis.sloner Threinen, and unanimously approved, to zct on this CARRIEDr0oposa,1 at the present meeting. MOTION was, made by Commissioner Threinen3 supported by MOTION TOCommissionerHagan, that the request of Northwestern Bell RECOMMEND Telephofte Company for preliminary plat approval of Northwestern APPROVAL/ Bell (Plymouth Offico Addition) and final site plan approval of a, Data Center be approved subject to the four conditions outlined by, Staff (gee above), with an addition to condition 2: That proposed identification signs, with a variance to allowi100 square feet of s shown - onthe-si-t—eplan. gn area, be app.roved as MGTION carried, 7-0,- CARRIED A-11-1 Imperial Hills IMPERIAL HILLS ANNEX Public Hearing opened, 7,,40 p.m. Public Hea,riv,,g Planner Overhiser introduced the proposal, Stating that Revised subject area is South of present Imperial Hills between PreliminaryOliveLaneandtheMooneyLakearea. He added that a, Plat ieliminary plat for this proposal was formerly before the mmissionj but had been witharawn, by the petitioner. Staff is recommending that the Planning Commission recommend approval of the preliminary plat for Imperial Hills, Annex subject to five r.onditians. Commissioner Hagen questioned whether the preliminary plat included all the lots between Peony Lane and the back propertylins 'Planner Overhiser answered that the eal-lier plat did recognize a proposedja,,rk between Peony Lane and the back lots on the west ti4e of ivt Lane between Olive and Peony, with platt-4 lots to the westervi. boundary. As the petitioner's engineer,. did more research,, it became apparent that the cost of building, -eces.sary storm sewers and water lines would be extremely prohibitive. Therefore, Eckltind & Swedlund Home Builders revised the former preliminary plat to show the 4,5 acre proposed park originally approved for park land as platted lots, with a 9,4 acre ,park on the west side of the site dedicated to replace the 4-5 acre site. Plainner Ovcrhisey, statedthat the 9.4 acre park has been reviewed by the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission at an August 9 meeting at which they recommended that this land be accepted for park. He added that the proposed park Will i,nclude a Wooded area and a ball diamond, football field., and oth.er facilities at the south end. DickKnutson, rept,esenting Ecklund & Swedlund Home Builders, Ts introduced end he indicated he woul,d answer questions the ommissioners, might have. Commissioner fla,gen questioned the overall, average lot size on t14is Plannipq Commission Iminates September 5, 1973 Plat,,,, Including the poYtion of. gr,een space, when compared with the Ordinance requirement' of 1a,,50G square feet, average fur a Residential Svbdivisjo'n Unit Project. After computation, it was concluded that 46verage lot area, including only 4.9 acres of the 9.4 acre park 9.4 - 4.5 = 4.9),, Would be 1$,570 sqoartj -,Feet. Commisitoner Hagen as,,,ed if eopditlon I had been discussed with the petitioner. Mr,,. Knutson answered that It had been agreed, that Ecklund & Svedlun4 would put in curb and gutter and blacktop ;8th Avenue to Olive Lane, and would also provide the full cul, de sac at the west end of 17th Avenqe. Mr, Donald Johns -on, 18,025 19th', Avenue North, former President of Imperial HilTi7 R—omeowners Association, questioned where the proposed cul, de sac Would occur., Commissioner Erickson. explained that the proposedcul'de sac Wouldd be located in the park area and access to the park would be off the, cul, de sac. Mr. Johnson stated that he questions the availability of flat land for critically needed Items such as tennis courts a ' nd ba.11 diamonds. He stated that presently Imperial Hills and Oakwood Manor children must cross Highway 101 to reach Oakwood School, where they can play. He stated that the pr,oposed park looks fine, adding that his arigi-nal concern had been that twbe park would consist primarily of the high or sloping area on Shadyview Circle or 19th Avenue. Mr. Jerry Furst, 1715. Olive Lane, questioned the location of trees on the east side and the area of the proposed park and whether they would be left. Y1r. Knutson answered they would. Mr., Furst then questioned if the street right of way for 18th Avenue beloriged to oe Village. Planner Overhiser stated that he was, sure it had not en vacated, but added, that the Staff would check it out. Mr. Shenk,, 1725 Troy Lane, complained that hehad received no notice of this hearing, although he lives right across the street from, the proposed, plat. Planner Overhiser indicated that An the case of preliminary plat approval, State Law requires only that, a notice be published in the official Village newspaper (Plymouth SUN) at least ten days before the public hearing. However, he added that the Planning Commission, Staff does routinely notify adjacent property owners of the proposed plat as well as posting a, sign on the propertyItself. Mr, Shenk stated that the drainage off this property wouldbeInadequateandwouldcausepro6le.ms- Planner Overhisei,- stated that the Minnehaha Creek Watershed District has been informed of this request and any approval would be subject, to the recommendations of that body,, Mr. Shenk stated that unless a proper analysis is done on drainage from the proposed park, some action would have to be taken to withhold the project. Mr. Cavid Mellen, 1635 Troy Lane, stated that he lives within 30 feet of tF proposecfMproject and did not receive notification. He stated that thka prime concern he and. several of his neighbors share is drainage. He state6 that Outlot A of the proposed park retains a lake, 4-6' deep,, ZOO feet ':ng, and 200 feet wide: due to runoff. He explained that they are concerned that adequate storm sewers will be put in by the contractor avoid wet basements every spring—adding that an, adequate storm ainage system has not been proposed in the past for that corner. Mr. Onutson assured Mr. Mellen that drainage, aspects have been discussed with the Village Engineer, whose rer-ommendations will be ipcorporate-d inn the final 'plan, P ubl ic Hearing closed, B. - O 5 p.m. Hearing Closed Planning Commission Minutes -4- September 5, 1973 MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen, supported by Commissioner MOTION TO Erick -son, and unanimously approved, to act, on this ' - the ACT/CARRIED resent meeting, proposal at 40ommissioner Threinen pointed out that the extension of Pinetree Pond on the opposite side of County Road 6 is apparently causingdrainageproblemsandquestionediftheVillageEngineerhas determined that area a trouble, spot with regard to drainage. Planner Gverhiser stated that no problem is seen in the area of this proposed plat, He added that the problem, as he views it is that drainage from this plat goes under County Road 6 into the Pinetree Pond area --and the construction of an outfall from Pinetree Pond to Hadley Lake has been referred to the-Minnehaha Creek Watershed, District for their consideration. Vice Chairman Kroskin pointed out that during. the public hearing a pond to the east had been referred to --the extension of Pinetree, Pond. Commissioner Hagen clarified by stating that the pond referred to was that on the north side of County Road 6 between. Merrimac and Olive Lanes and stated that this pond does connect to the Pinetree Pond, Commissioner Erickson indicated that the Storm Drainage Plan of the Village shows the proper storm sewer on this parcel, adding that since this is Part- of the Village Engineers recommendations, this storm sewer Willgo in as part of the development of this land., Commissioner Threinen added that the, Park and Recreation Advisory Commission voted for this park on a 6-0 margin, Smmissionen Threinen questioned if any provision has been made for low/moderate income housing. Mr.. Knutson answered the homes are valued at $40,000 - $80,000. MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagent supported by Commissioner Threinen, that the proposed. "Imperial Hills Annex" preliminary plat and conditional use permit for a Subdivision Unit Project for Ecklund and SwedlQnd Home Builders be recommended forcuncil approval subject to the following five conditions: I. 17th Avenue Viorth (western end) be platted to show a cul, de sac at its termination and that 18th Avenue be extended to Olive Lane, at the developer's expense, 2. That the recommendation of the Village Engineer be incorporated in the final platting.. 3. Fire hydrants be placed in accordance with Village Engineering Department and, Fire Chief recommendations. 4. That utility and drainage easements of 6 feet along side and rear lot lines and 10 feet along street right of way be shown on final plat for each lot, S. That any recommendations or conditions of the Minnehaba Creek Waterhsed District or Hennepin County Department of Public Works be made a condition to Village approval. MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL/ 0 TION carried, 7-0. CARRIED mmissioner Threinen stated he believed this plat is in accordance- With ccordanceWiththeComprehensiveMunicipalPlan, with his. only objection being that, it does not follow the: Council directive of providing some sort of low/moderate income housing in a development of this nature, Planning Commission Minutes 5 - September S, 1,973 I A-4984 effell-Enustrand[A-4-23j LOEFFEL-ENGSTRA,ND Commissioner Erickson announced that he wished to abstain Rezoning R-1 to R-2% rom the discussion and voting General Development Plan Public Hear%ng opened, 8:12 p.m, Public Hearing Planner Overhiser introduced the proposal, stating that the petitio;er wishes to rezone an area which is presently an R-1 Single Family Residential District to R-2 Two Family Residential District, with a General Development Plan proposed to be attached to the rezoning request, Planner Overhiser explained that in a proposal of this nature, if the Village were to rezone; the property as the petitioner requests, the General Development Plan would become part of the Zoning; Ordinance and; any deviation from the Plan would have to come before the Planning Commission and Council for review. This site is located on the west shore of Medicine Lake: and is bounded on the north by 28th Avenue, or, the west by West Medicine Lake Drive, and on the east by Medicine Lake, Planner Overhiser stated it is proposed to be developed along the lines of the Chelsea Woods and Tiburon developments. Proposed density is approximately 3,4 units per acre, which is slightly higher than that of an LA -1 area of the Comprehensive Guide Plan pt to 3). The Chelsea Woods development has 3.2 dwelling units per acre, and Tiburon has 3 dwelling units per acre. Staff is recommending that the :^equ.est of Loeffel-Engstrand Company for rezoning from R--1 to R--2 bd recommended for Council approval bject to the following conditions - 1. That the number of total dwelling units on the 28.5 acres be limited to 80 dwelling: units with 40of these units to be detached units and 40 to be attached units, i.e. an overall density of 2.8 dwelling units per gross acre. 2. That petitioner work with Staff and Metropolitan Countil Housing Staff in providing a't least 10% of tna units within the project for low and moderate income housing. 3. That the park dedication requirements be based upon the recommendations of the Park and Recreation Advisory Cowmissio.n. 4. That a public street be dedicated through the project, this street to connect West, Medicine Lake Drive near 26th Avenue North to Evergreen Lane. S. That the street dedication and parkway requirements be satisfied in the final platting, Mr. Barry Engen, Site Planner for Loeffe.-Engstrand, provided a slide presentation. Mr. Engen stated that the natural drainage areas will be maintained along 28th Avenue North and West Medicine Lake; Drive, with water and sewer facilities to accommodate the proposal He indicated' that a major objective is to provide a well-designed environment capitalizing on activities made possible by proximity to the lake. A roadway linkage system will connect cluster areas of the development, 4us providing ingress and egress. A private road network will connect st Medicine Lake Drive with Evergreen Lane and 28th Avenue North, permitting service access at this point. He continued that the roadway as it connects with Evergreen would discourage outside residential use on Evergreen and 20th Avenue North and would encourage use of _West Medicine Lake Drive. in Planning Commission Minutes 6 September 5, 1973 Mr. Engen stressed that this proposal involvea only 20% waterproofing+` of the site, with 80% to be left in its natural stage. Common space will be owned by the Homeowners Association, Mr. Engen stated that wo types of homes are proposed, some attached with a 0 lot line, the others detached with a larger home and larger lot, He indicated the homes would range in value: from $45,000-$55,000, with 98 dwelling units proposed to be clustered in groups of 4-7 units per cluster,, Ms. Mar'orie Hix, 2840 Evergreen Lane, stated that she is very opposed to t is -leve opment. she indicated that West Medicine Lake Drive is extremely congested now and. the lake is far too overcrowded at. present to propose 20 additional docking spaces for boats. Mrs. John Davidson, 11605 28th Avenue North, stated that they had Purchased t ear oine one week ago because it is locatedon a long, dead end street. She wondered if it 'is imperative that EY4rgre.en Lane be opened. Planner Overhiser indicated that on first submittal, this proposal did not show Evergreen Lane extended to the south, and Staff recommended that this be done to provide another oetlet for area traffic_. He explained that according to Village Subdivisic,l Regulations, no dead end street should be longer. than 500', and if for some Treason Evergreen and 28th Avenue as they now exist were blocked a critical safety hazard would result. He stated that wherever 'possible, the Village tries to maintain a complete circulation pattern for emergency use and general circulation. Vice Chairman Kroskin pointed out that the petitioner does not believe the, area is conducive to low/moderate income housing due to lack of convenient public park and recreation facilities for children, yet, he market analysis provided indicates that this proposal would appeal to middle-aged or upper -middle-aged. Mr. Engen clarified that the term 'low to moderate income housing' connotes several things, adding that the 'Vill,age is suggesting a subsidy housing program which would'' allow young families purchasing their first homes to purchase a home in the proposed development. Mr. Engen sued that this site would not be suitable for young families, Vice Chairman Kroskin stated that if the petitioner is using the criteria of proximity to parks, school facilities, community, and commercial areas, there are very few areas that could feasibly meet that criteria; Mr. Engen introduced Mr. Loeffel, President of Loeffel-Engstrand, Mr. Webster, Vice -President, and Mr. Leo. Lowe to the Planning Commission. Mrs-. Lucinda Gorman, 2740 North Evergreen Lane, stated that Medicine Lake could, not facilitate any more boating, and that the lake will eventually have to be completely closed to motorboat activity. She added that the units will have to be small if 98 families are to be accommodated, Public Nearing closed, 8;46 p.m, Hearing Closed Commissioner Hagen pointed out that some of the buildings on the General Development Plan are extremely close to the lot line and added that only 25 feet exist between the buildings themselves. Y', lack of MOTION' TO ACT, it was decided by the Planning Commission REFERREDtatthisrotrialbereferredtotheCommitteetteeoftheWholeppmforTO further discussion September 12, 1573 COMMITTEE Nanning, Commission Minu,tes -7- September 5, 1973 A-501 American universal/West .Tonka ,Estates AMERICAN UNIVERSAL Public Hearing opened, 8U48mp.. ( West, TonRa rsta Public HearingWannerOverhiserintroducedtheproposal, explaining. that the proposed preliminary plat is located north of County Road Preliminary15andsouthofThirdAvenueBetweenRanchviewandNiagara, He Plat pointed out that there are, presently two -platted lots in this area, with the petitioner proposing to plat eight lots, four fronting on Third Avenue North and four fronting on County Road i:5. He explained that each lot would. be just over one are, with each havitig a good share of the back portion of the lot 're,,zerved for ponding Area required in this area. Planner Overhiser added, that the Storm Drainage Plan does propose that 'there be a drainage po I nd retained' in this area which would consist of some 6 -acre feet of storage capacity and high water mark of 9`71, with the normal water level being 9681. He, explained, that some, filling and excavation' would need to occur in order 'to create this required ponding area. in effect, he continued, thes2, acre lots would be filled back to 1/2 to 2/3 acre of area above the highwater mark. In the past, this site has been a marginal area for development becattse of the drainage and low nature of the area. Staff is recommending that the Planning Commit ion make the followitig recommendatnon for Village Council c fisideration:. That the request of American Universal for :r,,proval of the preliminary plat for West Tonka Estates be approved subject to the following conditions: 1, That the final plat show 61 utility easements a.long the side and rear lot lines of each, proposed lot. 2.. That drainage easements be shown on the final 'plat as proposed in the, Storm Drainage Plan (based upon a revised grading plan)., 3. That the park dedication requirements as recommended by the Parks and Recreation Advisory Commission be made part of this recommenda,"'llon. Commissioner, Erickson questioned if .0operties would be all fill. Planner Overhiser answered that the southern part of the lots along County Road, 15 would have to be filled and the northern part of the lots along Third Avenue. He tontinued that the Plan did show some, proposed grading, however, this was somewhat inadequate in relationship to the ponding requirements and a revised grading plan will be requirt.d. Mrs. Donna Gustafson,, 435 Orchid, Lane, stated that this area is swampy, OtF at least four acres being open pond; Planner Overhiser stated that there would be 6 -acre feet of storage retained as ponding area. Mrs. Gustafson asked if 'this ponding area would be fenced., '`fanner bverhiser answered he did not think it would. Mrs. Gustafson pointed out that this development would increase traffic, already high because of the existence of the elementary school on Ranchview, by approximately 18 cars, She wondered if access to the development would be by way of frontage oads. Planner Overhiser answered that four lots would front on Third entre North which would provide access,, and the other four lots wouldorontonCountyRoad15, with that Road providing access for those lots. Mrs. Gustafson questioned acreage for park, Plartner Overhis.er stated that this aspect will be reviewed by the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission at its meeting September 6. he indicated that there is a Planning Commission Minutes _g September 5, 1978 possibility that a trail will exist throuch this area, adding that Village Plans show no requirement for park in the area because of r1oposed e existence of the elementary school and Circle Park two blocksstofthisarea, Mrs. Gustafson; questioned the value of the homes. Planner Ove.rhiser responded that the Village does not regulate cost of housing. Mr. Dick Knutson, representing the petitioner, indicated that thehomes are estimated at $37,000. Mr. Jim Seger, President. of American Universa?, was introduced to the audience and state.` that the domes would be single -Family, rambler -type dwellings. Mr. Bob Swanson, 205 North Niagara Lane, indicated that this is a neig erhoo, O th several small children, :end a ponding area could pose: a serious danger to those children, Mr. Eldor Johnso:t, 1.5420 3rd Avenue North, stated that the little year o amplin boy should be remembered who drowned in one ofthese ponds Public Hearing closed,, g:Ol p..m Hearing Closed Commissioner. Threinen pointed Gut aspects of this proposal that need serious consideration: Would this area still constitute a swamp even if filled? Where will the water go from the drainage ditch? The whole parcel is in a flood zrea. What plans insure that the buildings will not be jeapordized in a 100 -Year Flood situation? Safety -- Hoyt will ponding be treated if this is platted into one -acre lots For lack of MOTION T4 ACT, 1t was decided to refer this proposal REFERRED to the Committee, of the Whole for further discussion September TO 12, 1973 COMMITTEE A-50,4]Beyer Bridgeman A-504 BEV BRIDBEMAN Planner Overhiser explained that [As. Bridgeman is CUP for Interior requesting a conditional use permit to operate: an interior Design Counseling design counseling service from her home on the south side Service of County Road 24 between Highways '101' and 55. He stated that Staff recommends that the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the Village Council: That the request of Beverly Pnn Bridgeman to operate an interior decorating design service in her home be approved subject to the following conditions: 1 That the conditional use permit be reviewed on an annual basis, 2; T.tat ,petitioner refrain from advertising her business by the use of any on-site signing` 3 No on-st: Planning Commission Mi rlu te$ September 54 1973 was made by Commissioner Threinen, supported by Commissioner problems would be created because of this service, Commissioner Johnson, Threinen questioned if the residence would be altered in any way, RECOMMEND gridgeman, answer -ed, It would not. Commissioner Erickson asked APPROVAL/ any persons wouI6 be employed; 'Mt.. Bridgeman answered no, approval subject to the following conditions: MOTION was made by, 'ommissioner Erickson, supported by Commissioner MOTION TO Johnson, to recommend approval of the conditional use permit RECOMMEND requested by Ms. Oridgeman subject to the three conditions outlined APPROVAL/ tNy Staff (see above). MOTION carried, 7-0. CARRIED without addittonal, review. Welcome Community Home* Inc. A-503 WELCOME COMMUNITY HOME, INC. A-503 CUP Tor Rome petitioner's receiving a license from the State Planner Overhiser stated that this request involves a conditional use permit for educational type living quarters for 12 retarded children in St. Mary of the approval of the local and State Fire Departments Lake Convent, Staff is recommending this request be approved for Council consideration subject to three conditions. That Building and Fire Departments inspect and The petitioners introduced themselves., Bob Miggins, Bill Kosky,, and Darrel Danner, all of the Corporatioo, Commissioner Threinen questioned if the petitioner's plan to gc beyond housing 12 retarded children. Mr. Miggins answered that they have to be licensed by the State Department of Public Realth-, Welfare, and Retardation and this license dictates 11 children as a workable number. He indicated that they may ask Onr 16 children if the program 'is successful, the Staff trained, d if the County will permit it. lie indicated that a man and his wife live in as house parents and one St. Mary's student lives in Also, operating a program for training the retarded. A program director, two program assistants, and three morning attendants are also involved, totalling nine employees, Vice Chairman Kroskin questioned the age of tile children.. Mr. Miggins answered that they range from 10-15 years and are mi'Tdly to moderately retarded (trainable). He stated that the children would attend school at St. Mary of the Lake or at. the Glen Lake facility, depending on the ability of the child. MOTION was made by Commissioner Threinen, supported by Commissioner MOTION TO Johnson, that the conditional use permit for Welcome Community Home RECOMMEND to operate a group home for retarded children be recommended for APPROVAL/ Council approval subject to the following conditions: 1. That the conditional use permit be 'reviewed on an annual basis and that such use is not to exceed 16 childr-nn without addittonal, review. 2. That the conditional use permit be subject to petitioner's receiving a license from the State Department of Mental Health and Retardation, approval of the local and State Fire Departments and approval of the State Health Department. 3. That Building and Fire Departments inspect and have corrected any Code violations in the structure tha petitioner intendsto use. MOTION carried, 7-0. CARRIED P I anning Commission Minutes September- 5, 1973 J A -5651J. Rradley Asp- A-505 J, BRADLEY ASP lanner Oyerhiser introduced the proposal, stating CUP for Woodworking at the woodworking shop is presently being operated Shop in 1-1 District one of the Circle Star buildings on 91ef Awnh n -94:1 A V Fernbrook., He indicated that this operation had been discovered in a routine Building Department check as failing to operate under a conditional use permit required by the Village for all manufacturing or processing uses in the 1-1 district. Staff is recommending that the Planning Commission make the following recommendation to the Village Council! That the request of J. Bradley Asp for a, conditional use permit for a manufacturing use in an 1-1 Pi.strict be granted subject to the following conditiohSl. That the petitioner's woodworking shop be brought up to Code requirements as determined by the Village Building Inspector, That the, petitioner's woodworking operation be, subject to the performance standards as established in the 1-1 ZoningDistrict, especially as it relates to noise, odors, and dust (See Section 15, Subdivision 8, Paragraph 2, Zoning, Ord i ;ance) . That conditions 1 and 2 be satisfied prior to petitioner's continued operation of his woodworking shoo within the I -I 0 District. Mr. Asp stated he did agree to the conditions specified by Staff, and explained that his shop processes cabinots and desks, etc. but does no finishing. MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen, supported. by Commissioner MOTION TO Erickson, to recommend approval of a conditional use permit for RECOMMEND this woodworking shop in an 1-1 District subject to the conditions APPROVAL/ outlined by Staff (See 1-3 above). MOTION carried, 7-0. CARRIED I A-4G 2]Assoc. Free Lutheran Congregations 462 ASSOC. FREE LUTHERAN CONGREGATIONS This proposal had previously been, discussed at Planning Commission meetings in April, July, and August. Thp petitioner now provides a revised General Develop., Revised General meet Plan for review. Devr1opment Plein Staff recommends to the Planning, Commission the following action: 1. The R-4 rezoning and revised R.L.S. as p,riposed by the Association of Free Lutheran Congreg&Lions be recommended for Council approval. 2. That the General Development Plan dated August 16, 1973 as proposed by the Association of Free Lutheran Congregations be recommended for Council approval Subject to the following conditions: Planning Commission Minutes _11- September, 5, 11973 a, A 50 -foot building setback from property lines be maintained. b, That the park dedication 'requirements as recommended by the Park and Rec-reation, Advisory Commission be made a part of this, recommendation,. 3. That the site plan for the proposed dormitory as proposed by the Association of 'Free Lutheran Congregations be recommended for Council, approval subject to the following conditions-, a, A P_zrform4nQe Bond for landscapinq, improvements be placed with the Villageprior to Building Permit approval. b. That one of the two parking, lots on the south parcel be constructed, in conjunction with the building of the new dormitory. It was pointed out that the 155 parking spaces originally provided, had been increased; Mr, Dick Knutson, representing the petitioner, Indicated that the: number of parle.irig spaces is now 2,38. Commi.tsioner Threinen, was assured that no lot line problem exists with this property and the property to the immediate south, Planner Overhiser clarified that at least a 20 foot setback exists on, the south side for pear king4rking area. 6„kith 'regard to the southwestern part of the parcel, Planner Overhiser ated that this Portion will be left in its natural state and has been added to the, total parcel, with the petitioner resuming the re,,Y.oning request. Vice Chairman Kroskin pointed out that tilie petitioner requests easements for trail use only; Planner Overhiser responded that in the first few discussions between Pastor Strand and Staff, dedicatio;i of land for park and trail purposes was considered, Planner Overhiset- indicated that the Village essentially wants the lakeshore in order to, develop a trail along the lake --in other words, the, Village wants only to hold an easement over the property, He added that similar action took place on the west side of Chelsea Moods along, Dunkirk Lane, with. the Village holding only a trail easement along that area., Commissioner Maika wondered whether the trail would be for biking or for pedestrian use only. Planner Overhiser answered that at the outset it would be for pedestrian use and would inclijde biking whenever and wherever it could facilitate that use. He added that at this point, the Village is merely attempting to acquire.an easement for the trail, and development will come later. Commissioner Threinen pointed out that the dori,11tory for married students existed in the April plan, disappered in the July plan, and exists again in the August plan,. Mr, Knutson stated that a site plan for this proposal was approved by the Planning Commission and Village Council four years ago.. He stated that he had advised, the petitioner that if there were even the Olightest chance of that dormitory ever existing, it should be retained n the plans because it hadalready been approved. Vice Chairman Kroskin asked Mr, Knutson to clarify the request for elderly housing. Mr,, Knutson stated that this aspect of the plan is not intended for Immediate construction, but offers a retirement dwelling for retired pastors of the synod, This, like the dorm for married students, had Planning rrommiss oln Minutes w12 September 6, 1973 been p4lle°d out of the July plan because the petitioners did not believe it would exist for several years. Mr. Knutsoji added that awinqs again advised the petiirioner to keep this concept in the plan should it ever be required. MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen,, supported by Commissioner MOTION TO Threinen to recommend Council approvalof the rezoning, reviscd. RECOMMEND R.L.S, and General Development Plan proposed by the Association APPROVAL/ of Free Lutheran Congregations according to Points 7 and 2 (Rezoning, outlined by Staff above. R.L.S, Gen. Dev, Plan MOTION carried, 6-0-1, Commi;,isioner Stewart abstaining. CARRIED MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen, supported by Commissioner MOTION TO Threinen, to approve the site plan for the proposed dormitory RECOMMEND according to Point 3 outlined. by Staff above, with two addit'i'ons APPROVAL/ suggested by Commissioner Hagen Site Plan c. A site plan which incorporates the parking lot to be constructed be approved by the Planner. d. That the setback Win accordance with the General Development Plan. Commissioner Erickson pointed out that the landscaping plan for this development misrepresents the parking lot area as depicted on the General Development Plan, Commissioner Hagen stated that a detailed landscaping plan can deviate from the General Development Wlanan Commissioner Erickson answered that 'the detailed landscaping shows placement of materials differently than they are shown on the General Development Plan, adding that this i's not th.e usual form in which a site plan is approved.. Mr.. Knutson stated twat the landscaping plan was intended to be part of the revised site plan, and, this is where the difference exists, Planner Overhiser explained that the location of Building #6 on the General Development Plan is what is to be considered by the Planning Commission for site plan approval'. He stated: that in this case, a 'Site Plan' drawing as such was not submitted, but rather a drawing which includes landscaping plans as the location of the building was shown on the General Develop- ment Plan. He stressed that Staff has all needed information, even though it does not exist on one particular drawing, Commissioner Threinen stated his belief that if the General Develop- ment Plan has been recommended for Council approval, and if the site plan ties to that General Development Pian, with Staff bel teving enough information is available to administer the General Development Plan and Site .Plan, then any other delay of this proposal for that reason becomes "dilatory tactics," Vice_ Chairman Kroskin indicated he would reLommend a pattern be established in which there is no deviation from the 'Site Plan' drawing which indicates exactly what will exist with regard to building locations., lot lines, etc. Planner Overhiser stated he agreed and that this 0roposal requires three actions from the Planning, Commission and-- ollowing strict routine --could have come before thr„ Planning Commission three different times. MOTION MOTION, as amended, carried 6ti1-0, with Vitae Ch%irman Kroskin opposed. CARRIED Planning Commission Minutes 73-- September 5, 1973 General Di sc:uss i on Commissioner Threinen urged that the Planning Commission consider 14 its nest study meeting the Community Shopping Center EvaluationiteriaestablisthedbyCouncilinarecentResolutionandtheVillagehousingPol-'cy, 4e stated his belies= that the Commission is beingforcedtomake ,judgments based on maps and political considerations, i.e. Market value, estimated value of the homes, will the Centerdrawtenants, etc Commissianer Erickson statedthat market: analysisusuallyexplains 'a need for a certain use, which does have ar effectonlanduseplanning MOTION was made by Commissioner Hagen:,, supported by Commissioner 8-1573Johnson, to approve the Minutes of August 15, 1973 as worrected. inues' Motion carried, 5-0-2 Commissioners Majka and Stewart abstaining MOTION to aOjourn 10.53 p.m, Reg Kroskin, Vice Chairman Plymouth Village Planning Commission Martin W. Overhi ser, Secretary APPROVED BY PLANNING COMMISSION September 19, 1973