HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 12-06-1972PLANNING COMMISSION
VILLAGE OF PLYMOUTH, MINNES'GTA
December 6, 1972
rgala.r meeting of the Planning Commission was calked to order by
Vice- Chairman Kroski:r at 7:33 p.m. in the Council Chambers of the
Y,Ublic Works Building on Wednesday, December, 6, 1972.
MEMBERS PRESENT- Vice -Chairman Krosk n, Commissioners Roth, Hagen
Th ei'nenx Chapman, mana and Keeley
MEMBERS ABSENT: Chairman Stahl
STAFr PRESENT, Planner Martin Overhiser
A-44 Electric Repair and Construction, Inc A-444 8 LECTRI C REPAIR
Vice -Chairman Kroskin opened the Public bearing for the
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rezoning request, of Electric Repair and Construction Com Rezoning R -O to
pany, Inc,, ai, 7.35 p.m, I-2
Panner Overhiser explained that the petitioner is requesting Public Hearing
rezoning of 7.3 acres from R -O to I-2,- the property being
l ocat..ed at the Northwest corner of Trunk Highway 101 and
Medina Road.
Donald Cole, President of Electrical :Repair and Construction
Company, stated that he had ; a purchase agreement on the property
that was contingent upon rezoning.
Commissioner Roth questioned if the Staff had explained to the
petitioner what the plans for this area are as the petitioner had
indicated in one of bit comments that he ha.d. followed the Village
procedure to the letter and that he therefore thought the request
should be approved.
Jean Barrett of Christy Realty, representing the landowner, stated
that she had discussed the matter with the Staff and that they had
indicated to her that this was not an industrial area; however, in
talking to. home builders, they had told her that land was not suit-
able for residential development
There: being no further comments from the audience, the shearing was MOTION_
closed.. Commissioner Keeley, moved, supported by Commissioner Ha-gen, TO ACT/
to art upon this request when the public hearings were cumpl eted . CARRIED
Notion carried' unanimously.
ollow-Ing a discussion of the requested industrial zoning .and the MOTION TO
reasons for denial listed in the Staff Report, it was moved by RECOMMEND
Commissioner Keeley and satpported by Commissioner Roth that the DENIAL
Pl`annina, Commission recommend that the rezoning request of Electric
Repair and Construction Company be denied for the following reasons
11 The proposed change is incompatible With established land
use pattern's inasmuch as this area is primarily agricultural
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with scattered sinal'e family homesi tes;
2.1 Tete property can, ta-e used in _accordance with the existing
zoning-,
There are a, stjfficient number of sites already zoned indu.strfAl
for the prop;,sed use in other parts of the Village*
4) The proposed, change would be in conflict with the- proposed
Land Use Guide Plan of the Village,
5) The requested rezoning is in opposition to the adopted Goals,
Objectives, and Criteria of the Village.
Motion carries! unanimously. .MOTION
CARRIED
T-'1 94 & A -MO Taylor & Pl aZhous-e Company Rezoni n A 194 & A-350
TAYLOR &
Planner Overhi,ser reviewed the request of Delos P. Taylor and ,PLAYHOUSE;
Playhouse Company, Inc;. to rezone fY om R-0 to R-1, R-3, R-4, and
I-1 based upon a Genera; Development Plan, Rezoning:
R -O toR-1
Vitae -Chaff man Kroskin opened the ,public Hearing at 7,40 p..m. R-3, R-4 $
Delos Taylor, the petitioner, stated that he had purchased
the property three years ago and had sold the northern portion Public Hearin
of the property to the Playhouse Company. He indicated that if
the property were rezoned that a new Playhouse Company building
would be st4rted in 1973 and that the single family area would
be started. He also stated that he believed that there would be
more Mapledel l traffic going east through his property to get to
Vicksburg Lane than there would be traffic from the R--3 area going
west through Mapledell to get to Dunkirk,
HaroldBirkeland, architect for tho petitioner, briefly reviewed
the revised General Development Plan and stated that he had worked
with the Village Staff in preparing the street alignments.
Floyd 01 son of 28th Avenue Norte; stated that he had talked to the
developers wbo own undeveloped lots in Mapled'ell and they were not
oppose; to the proposed General Development Plan of Taylor and
Playhouse Company. He stated that he has: been observing fvr some
time the plans for the Taylor propert± and believes that the current
request is acceptable with some minor ch-ange,s which the Planning
Commission might want to make..
r,ed Rafferty of 2611 Black Oaks Lane stal"ed` that he was concerned
a`x gut the traffic pattern and the, fact t,iat some of the multiple
esidents might be going through Maplede`tl He felt that the traffic
patterns should, be closely examined
Timothy Bunn, 2951 Comstock Lane, questioned the street connections
between. Vicksburg Lane and Dunkirk Lane by way of 29th Avenue. He
stated that when Vicksburg Lara is closed from having access to
Highway $5, and if Medina Road is not constructed between Dunkirk
and Vicksburg, then there vroold_ be a large amount of traffic using
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Napledell streets in order to get over to Dunkirk Lane and up to
County Road ZA in order to get onto Highway 55. Mr. Bunii also
questioned- the access to Medina Road.
Glenn Booker, 28,41 Comstock Lane, stated, that Otto Bo-nestroo, at a
previous Council meeting, had stated that the Vicksburg overpasswouldbeconstructedwithinfi'veyears. Planner Overhiser stated
that he, did not remember this statement being, made and that the
State Highway Department has at this time no plans for building aVicksburgoverpassatHighway55,
Commissioner, flagen questioned Planner Overhist„r as to some of the
Staff reasons for having the streets connect between the Taylor
property and the Mapledell. development Pla.o,ner Overhiser stated
that the Staff had discussed the proposal with the Fire Chief and
a representative of Fire Underwriters Insurance Service, and they
both felt that we should have east -west circulation in thie', area
between Vicksburg and Dunkirk Lane in order to maintain alternate
Means of access to the residential area. Plannar Overhiser stated
that it also was the Staffs' belief that east -west access should be
provided through this area and then again through tha Wor-khous,:
Property or the Village would end up with almost a mile and one-half
long area between proposed Medina Road and 18th Avenue in Chelsea
Woods without having any east -west connection for local circulation,
between Vicksburg and, Dunkirk. By providing two or three alternative
means of getting into or out of a neighborhood, it will be ensured
that excessive amounts of traffic do not build up on any one of the
local neighborhood residential streets.
Commissioner Hagen stated that he believed that the northern east -
west connection could, be closed off.
Vice -Chairman Kroskin closed the Public Hearing and it was moved MOTION TO
by Commissioner Keeley, supported by Commissioner Thr-einen, to ACT/
act on this request. at the present meeting,., Motion carried 5-1, CARRIED
with Commissioner Roth voting naye..
Commissiorer Threinen questioned the park area as shown nnd asked
that it be explained, Planner Overhiser stated that approximately
13 acres are required for a park donation. or cash in 111ou, of the 13
acres. It is the Staff's recommendation that the Village should
accept the 8.6 acre park,, the 1.6 acre trail, and the 9.4 acre
drainage and ponding are-a--k-TrDtal - 19.6 acres) as satisfaction of
the 13 acre park requirement. Planner Over''Iser stated, that the
Park and Recreation Advisory Commission would be reviewing 'the
proposed park and open space area at their,-,,,,!,eetin9 of 12-7-72.
Commissioner Thre-Inen also questioned the elimination of access to
Vicksburg Lane from the R-4 area, Planner Overhiser stated that
if the access to Vicksburg from the R-4 area is eliminated as
Staff has recommended, then the General Development Plan for the
R-4 area would have to be revised showing all access from Medina
Road.,
Commissioner Keeley questioned Mr. Tavlor if lie would be the major
developer Of the Property. Mr;,Jaylor, stated he would not be.
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Commissioner Chapman stated that before the proposal is forwarded
hack to the Council, he felt that a complete, preliminary plat of
the, industrial area should be submitted as set forth in the Zoningbrriinance.
Commiss=ioner Chapman moved, supported by Commissioner Hagen, to MOTION TO
direct the developer to complete the foll owi g.. i tems before the DIRECT
t P ann ng ommi ssion wi cons.i dQr making a re.commendRion to tTe
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1 } That 2;9th Avenue be cl o ped between'the R-1 and R-3 areas
2) That the proposed R-3 area he revised with reference to
the location of the proposed buildings
3) That the proposed R-4 area north of Medina Road should be
revised so no direct access is provided with Vicksburg Lane4) Thi.t a; complete prel imi nary plat: for the I-1 area be prepared.
and submitted with the revised General Development Plan
5) That the recommendations of the Park and `Recreation Advisory
Commission with respect to the park and open space -areas be
incorporated, in redrafting the General Development Plan
Motion carried unanimously. CARRIED
Mi.. - fid) honing ordinance Amendments AG -1 Y—) ZONING ORDINANCE
Vice -Chairman Kroskin opened the Public Hearing with regard
AMENDMENTS
to ,,,ie following proposed amendments to the Zoning Ordinance: Public Hearing
l) Section 17, Subdivision 1, Paragraph 6-a Advertising
Signs
2} Section 17 Subdivision 3, Paragraph g; New Site Flan
Feeof $25
S} Section 19, Subdivision 3 Zoning Variance Fee of $L5
4) Section 20, Subdivision 2 - Cond-itional Use Permit Fee
of X25
5) Section 22, Subdivision 1 - Ordinance Amendment of Map
or Text Fee of $100
There Being no one present wishing to be heard on these proposed
amendments., the hearing was closed,
Planner Overhiser stated that the Village Staff is reviewing all Fees
fees within the Village Code and that in the latter part of December
or the first part of January, a proposed set of new fees will be
presented to the Village Council. The Village Attorney has recommended
that we consider a new Section to the Village Code that would. set forth
all Village license and permit fees. Therefore, the actual amendment
to the Zoning Ordinance could make reference to fees as established
by the Village Council it a certain Section of the Village Code, eFollowing further discussion, it was moved by Commissioner Chapman MOTION
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and supported. b Commissioner Keeley,, tPpYY •
Council that the following fees be est -a
Attorneyy draft appropriate language for
would not specify :the fee Mamount in the
reference
December 6, 1972
nd to the Villa5e
and that the Village
nq Orth nonce whi c
zoning or_o_i_ x
aqe Code.,
Site Plan - $2
Zoning Variance - $25
Conditional Use Permit - $25
Ordinance Amendment of Map or Text - $100
Motion carried unanimously, CARRIED
Vice -Chairman 'Kroskin then opened the meeting for discussion of
the proposed amendment to Section 17, Subdivision 1 Paragraph Signs
6-a "Advertising Signs"
4) No advertising sign or structure shall be located
closer than two hundred (200) feet from the bona 'ary
of any R-1, R-2, R-3, or R-4 district, park, playground,
school or church ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE STREET OR
INTERSECTION OF STREETS or two .hundred 200 feet
from any structure located within an R -O district
l-ocated on the same side of the street or inter-
section of streets. .k*
XXX _^ Proposed Amendment
Commissioner Keeley stated tMa.t when the Planning Commission had
previously discussed the amendments to the Sign Ordinance, it was
the intent then that advertising signs would be set back 200 feet
from a residential district boundary whether it happened to be
the center line of a street or adjacent to a proposed advertising
sign. Fo loviing further discussion, it was moat -ed by Commissioner MOTION TO
Keeley, seconded by Commissioner Chapman, to recommend to the RECOMMENDVillaeCouncilthattheabove -proposed amendment to the MjU STATUS QUO
Ordinance not be adopted and that the Ordinance be left as it
now reads because of the following reasons
1) The intent of the original Ordinance was to figure the setback
for advertising signs from the center line which would be
the zoning' boundary;
2) Signs are not the same as a building and therefore should
not be set as close to a residential district as a
building might be;
5} If the proposed amendment were adopted, an advertising sign
could be located within 166 feet of a residential structure
figuring two 50 foot setbacks f v a 66 foot street).
Motion carried unanimously, CARRIED
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A 325 Hettye Paeyga Conditional Use PermitA-32'5
HETTYE PACYDA
Following a lengthy discussion of the pros and cans :of re- CUP for
quirin,g that home occupations be issued for only one year, Home BeautyItwasconcludedbythePlanningCommissionthattheVillageShop
should require that .home occupations be reviewed annually
and thereby only issue a Conditional Use Permit for one year, MOTION TO
It was then moved ;by Commissioner Chapman, supported by RECOMMEND
Commissioner Keeley, that the request of Hent e Pac;a or APPROVALAL
a Conditional Use Permit to operate a eauty
Larewood 'Lane be recommended for approval for one year.
Motion carried unanimously: CARRIED
A-277 Lorraine Beam - Conditional Use Permit for Dog GroomingA-277
i~oll-otaing a review: of the requested renewal of a Conditional Use LORRAINE
Permit for a dog grooming home occupation at 11624 Highway 55, BEAM
it was moved by Commissioner Keeley, supported by Commissioner CUP for DogThreinen, to recommend renewing the Conditional Use Permit for Grooming
one year: EMOTION TO
RECOMMEND
Lotion carried) 5-7. with Commissioner Roth voting na; . APPROVAL/
CARRIED
It was suggested that the Staff prepare a more comprehensive
form for persons td fill out who are requesting Conditional
Use. Permits for home occupations,
Commissioner Chapman suggested that the Village Staff review with
the developers of the Tiburon Project the proposed parking areas
for guest, and for overflow parking for residents of the Project.
He stated that he thinks the guest and overflow parking for the
Project is going to be inadequate and that parking would occur on
the public streets,
Commissioners Hagen and Chapman, in reviewing with the Planning Commission
the matters which were discussed at the }-Homeowners Joint Council meeting
of November 29, stated that they felt the Trail System would be of most
interest to home owners, and should be very carefully explained at the
public hearings, Commissioner Threinen stated that the Trail Committee
has done an extensive amount of research and study on how the Trail
System would be used and that he felt that private groups would be seeking
trail easements for a motorized trail. (for snovimobiles) and might be
requesting that the Village assume any liability for such a Trail System.
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Planner Overhiser noted that representatives o the. Trail Committee
would be meeting with the Village Council on December 11, 1972 to
discuss certain aspects of the TrailSystem and that Planning 'Commission
members would certainly be welcome at that meeting.
Commissioner rhreinen then gave a brief review of what the Village
Tra.11 Committee has accomplished to date and stated that the Committee
s working on detailed criteria as to how the Trail System would be
used.
Motion was made by Commissioner Keeley, seconded by Commissioner 11-15-72
Chapman, to approve the Planning Commission Minutes of 11-15-72. Minutes'
Motion carried 4-p'-2, with Commissioners Roth and Hagen. abstaining,
Motion to adjourn,, 10.10 p.m.
APPROVED BY PLANNING COMMISSION 1-3-73
James C. Wahl, Chairman;
Plymouth Planning Commssiafi
Martin W Overhiser., Secretary