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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 08-02-1972i PLANNING COMMISSIO VILLAGE OF PL`Y`MOUTH., MINNESOTA August 2, 1972 A regular meeting of the planning Commission was calked to order by Acting Chairman Keeley at 7;39 in the, Council Chambers of the Public Works Building on Wednesday, August 2, 1972. MEMBERS PRESENT! ,Acting Chairman Bill Keeley,_ Commissioners Fran Hagen, John Roth, and Reg Kroskin MEMBERS ABSENT,. Chairman Jim Wahl, Commissioners Jim Threinen and Marren Chapman STAFF PRESENT: Martin Overhiser,, Georgi Planning Commission Minutes _2-- August 2, 1972 commissioner Hagen e y , g pressed concern as to this building ultzmatel.ylookinglikethebuildingacrossthestreetfromtheproposedsitealsobuiltbyMat -ram. He stated that he had been involved with the Village at the time this; previous building was in the planning phase and several parts of the proposal, plantings fcr instance, never mate'rial.ized, Commissioner Hagen hoped for an indicationthatthiswouldtnbdoeoneagarn. Mr. Bernarda, assured the Commission that the final c:eve.lopment would look exactly like the; scale model presen-:ed; m issioner `',c th was concerned that if the Planning Commission recommended tZpproval of this project it would start a precedentforexceptionstotl.e Zoning Ordinance, Planner Overhiser then explained that t nxe r"evel.oper must be viewed: as asking ,for a Variance of the exiating Ordinance, The Commission then considered the aspect of parking space. Commissioner Roth felt that fifty-eight spaces would not accommodate visitors. Mr. Thomsen, architect, stated that all tenants'wo'_Id pay for the underground parking as part of their rent. Mr. Bernardi added that they would have allowed for more open parking in the development, but did not in an effort to beautify the complex as a thole Commissioner Kroskin made a motion, seconded by Acting ChairmanKeeley, that the Planning Commission recommend approval of the developer's site plan in accordance with the items presented and including the density calculation of 192 units, subject to posting of a landscaping bond and meeting the park dedication requirements. M MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL VL on carried, o -U-11. John Roth abstaining, MOTION CARRIED 11 New Procedures, Rezoning Request & Site Plan Approval A-1 Planner Overhiser distributed newly compiled forms for rezoning and site plan approval. He explained that ,according to the new'.DEprc=cedure, every building that goes up in any zone other* than R -O, R-1, or R-2 has to go 'through site plan review iii addition, every rezoning request has to come in with a General Development Plan, The Commission felt they should review the procedural forms and REVIEW report any proposed revisions at the next meeting or directlytotheStaff, Planning Commission Minutes 8- I August 2, 1972 Planner Overhiser stated • that the report contains an overall guide WATBILfordevelopmentofthe, water system. Flans for sewer, storm system,P, and Land Use are also being formulated,, He added that the proposed reservoir sites in the eater Report are the main consideration, for the Planning Commission. The Council will be considering acquisition of these sates in the near future. Commissioner Kroskin wondered if there were any set timings for development; Councilman Niles answered: that the Council would establish deadlines that would invariably be tied to projected sewer and water impravements Acting Chairman Keeley felt that this subject tied directly to MEQ.Lt = the discussion of the Metropolitan Council's proposed stopping ILRBAN or limiting of urban expansion. Planner Overhiser then explained that the Metropolitan Council had reached a consensus that Staff would draft a recommended Policy Statement in resolution form that would ,adequately serve to limit development to areas with water and sewer available until. the Village Council has the projects scheduled and tentative development Lines can be drawn. As the Commission reviewed the newspaper article on ;Metropolitan Council Urban Expansion, Mr. Overhiser stated that the Village Staff has discouraged developers on a discussion basis if an area has no water or sewer available. The resolution of the Village Council: would aid the Staff in discussions with the developers and land. owners. In summary, Planner Overhiser stated, that the Water Report is a guide for the future development of the water system and that each addition to the sy.-,tem will have to be evaluated as to its benefit to Village water customers and its effect on the total system, rA Ml MIP Plymouth Courter Conditional.. Use Permit for Ban2e A-4lQ Planner Overhiser explained that Minneapolis 'ridustrial Park MIP) is asking; for a Conditional Use Permit for a bank in the Plymouth Court Building .for a period of three years. He added Conditional. that MIP is in an. 1--1 district and the Zoning Ordinance lists Use Permit several offices that are not permitted to be housed in an 1--1 for district, such as medical offices and general multi --use offices. bank Planner Overhiser believed the bank could be considered a conditional use in an 1-1 district, but could more logically be considered a conditional use in a B-1 district, E Planning Commission Minutes -4- August 2, 1972 Commissioner Hagen felt that since banks have always been the focal point of a business district it would be more sound to place a bank in,a B-1 district. He stated that he.was totally against rezoning, Planner "erhiser stated that the distinction between the I-1 and the " I district centers: around generation of traffic; the 1--1 distx i.ct does not permit general office buildings because such buildings tend to generate more traffic. Me believed, howev'W that the zoning problem should he disregarded at this time and the bank should be considered as a bank primarily for People employed in the I-1. district. Commissioner Hagen asked Mr. Charles Wagner, Plymouth State Benk President, whether or not the Bank had been granted a Charter, Mr. Wagner replied that the bank had attained a Charter in 1.970 and FDIC Insurance in March of 1972. Acting Chairman Keeley wondered if the bank would eventually be located in downtown Plymouth. Mr. Wagner- stated that it probably would Mr. Richard Cox, representative of MIP, stated that occupation of this building, is to be temporary only and that this was the only building open to them. Mr,. Cox added that the bank could not locate any other piece of land that is presently properly zoned. r Mr. Wagner informed the Commission that the bank would be located on County Road 6 across from Gold Pond and would use the back door entrance. When asked by the Commission if a drive -up facility would be considered within the next three years, he answered that perhaps it would be considered if additional land 5,000 square feet - were available to allow people to move into and out of the drive -ups without congesting traffic. Commissioner. Kroskin. questioned why this request for Conditional Use Permit was ,not b ough.t before the Planning Commission before being submitted for Council consideration,.: Mr. Cox answered that it dad never occurred to :MIP that their request was not a permitted use under the Village Zoning Ordinance. Commissioner Kroskn stated that he would abstain from all voting on the matter. Commissioner Hagen made a motion, seconded by Acting Chairman MOTION TO Reel ey, to grant a three (3) year Conditional Use Permit for RECOMMEND occupation of a bank in a Planned Industrial District within APPROVAL the Plymouth Court Building and without a drive-in teller facility. Commissioner Roth felt that this Conditional Use Permit should be treated as other Permits and should thus be reviewed annually. Motion carried; 8-0-1, Reg Kroski.n abstaining, MOTION CARRIED Planning, Commission Minutes _ August 21 1972 Review of Comprehensive Land Use 8 Community Facilities Guide Plan Planner'Overhi,ser asked for discussion and: review, of the Compre- hensive Land, Use and Community Facilities Guide Plan, It was LAND. 11 ,A itD explained that at first discussion the Mayor felt Staff should Ci1M,E,- AN contoct neighboring communities, counties, school. districts, : aual and T,iie State on a Staff-to-Staff basis, set up a public hearing CULT R after which the Mayor would contact each of the officials of zovernment units and ask for offi ial comments . Review Acting Chairman Keeley stated that water pressure had been increased ten pounds to seri " °e the I--1 and B"-4 areas around the Soo Line I'ndustri'al Park,. 14o felt that it was a waste of money for the Village to develop a water supply for these Iri.nge areas when most of the development is concentrated in the central portion of Plymouth.. Acting Chairman Keeley then polled the Commission as to whether or ,not they would be in favor of dropping the Soo Line Industrial Park from the Comprehensive Guide Plan. Commissioner Hazen stated that he was in favor of the change,; Commissioner kroskin wondered what would take its place - it was determined the change would best be made to LA-1 and LA--2. Planner Overhiser believed a check should be made as to the number. Oof Industrial acres guided in the Village and what percent is left for development and then for that 4 number of acres left to develop determine if that is enough for Plymouth at saturation point with- out the Soo Line Industrial Park The general consensus of the Planning Comn:issioix *gas that the Rt OMMENDEn Soo Line Industral park is not imperative and the X3--4 Business CHANGE area, should be rot-ined with a LA-2 area extended about .five hundred (50G) feed -to the nort,) end of the LA-1. IA Hussman Investment Company, Ranchview Manor 365 }?. UCH3 TZW The Planing Commission reviewed the final plat of "RANCTVJ :EW Final Plat MANOR" and concurred that the Chairman should sign the plat. 242 Imperial Hills Sth and 6th Additions A--242 lMa&TAL The Plannirag Comma ssi )n reviewed the final plat of "IMrEPIAL Final Plat HILLS!' and concurred that the Chairman should sign the plat. 194." a A-194` A-350 'r Delos Taylor 6 Playho;jse Revised _Proposal A- 3501 The Planning Commission believed they have giver, enough guidance '6Y_LQAND to the proponent which was included in the Planning Commission Minutes of July 19, 1972 as corrected and that the developer MUDZAL Planna,ia Commission minutes' August 2, 1972 should forthcomef. tc h wa.th a bona fide Ganeral. Development Plan, Report Bly. Commissioner Hager. on the FLOOD PLAIN FLOOD PLAID REPORT Co missioner Hagen reported to the ;'lommission on the proposed Flood Plain Zoning Ordinance He stated that his report contained only terms and hard facts and that engineering data would have to be secured for the core information, Planner Overhiser stated that Staff would draw up some preliminary maps to accompany the Flood Plain Zoning Ordinance. Commissioner Hagen stated he would get his Commi.ttee together sao?, to review the Ordinance. Reporty Staff On Planning Cbmmission/Vil age Council Consensus C:)?SENSUS' After ana:,.ysis, Staff found that the Council has differed with the Planning. Commission only five times out of twenty-,nine for the period April through July, 1972 -- (830 or E3e). Motion was made by Acting Chairman Keeley that the Minutes of 7-19-72 July 19, 1972, be approved as corrected. Commissioner Hagen. Ma-n-' utas seconded the motion. Motion carried, 3-0-1, Reg Kroski.n abstaining. Meeting adjourned at 11:57 p.m. 08/07%7:2 gr William Keeley, Acting Chairman Plymouth Planning Commission 00")- e4l Secretary