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PLANNING COMMISSIO
VILLAGE OF PL`Y`MOUTH., MINNESOTA
August 2, 1972
A regular meeting of the planning Commission was calked to order by
Acting Chairman Keeley at 7;39 in the, Council Chambers of the Public
Works Building on Wednesday, August 2, 1972.
MEMBERS PRESENT! ,Acting Chairman Bill Keeley,_ Commissioners Fran
Hagen, John Roth, and Reg Kroskin
MEMBERS ABSENT,. Chairman Jim Wahl, Commissioners Jim Threinen and
Marren Chapman
STAFF PRESENT: Martin Overhiser,, Georgi
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commissioner Hagen e y , g pressed concern as to this building ultzmatel.ylookinglikethebuildingacrossthestreetfromtheproposedsitealsobuiltbyMat -ram. He stated that he had been involved with the
Village at the time this; previous building was in the planning
phase and several parts of the proposal, plantings fcr instance, never mate'rial.ized, Commissioner Hagen hoped for an indicationthatthiswouldtnbdoeoneagarn. Mr. Bernarda, assured the
Commission that the final c:eve.lopment would look exactly like
the; scale model presen-:ed;
m issioner `',c th was concerned that if the Planning Commission
recommended tZpproval of this project it would start a precedentforexceptionstotl.e Zoning Ordinance, Planner Overhiser then
explained that t nxe r"evel.oper must be viewed: as asking ,for a
Variance of the exiating Ordinance,
The Commission then considered the aspect of parking space.
Commissioner Roth felt that fifty-eight spaces would not
accommodate visitors. Mr. Thomsen, architect, stated that
all tenants'wo'_Id pay for the underground parking as part of
their rent. Mr. Bernardi added that they would have allowed for
more open parking in the development, but did not in an effort
to beautify the complex as a thole
Commissioner Kroskin made a motion, seconded by Acting ChairmanKeeley, that the Planning Commission recommend approval of the
developer's site plan in accordance with the items presented
and including the density calculation of 192 units, subject to
posting of a landscaping bond and meeting the park dedication
requirements.
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MOTION TO
RECOMMEND
APPROVAL
VL on carried, o -U-11. John Roth abstaining, MOTION CARRIED
11 New Procedures, Rezoning Request & Site Plan Approval A-1
Planner Overhiser distributed newly compiled forms for rezoning
and site plan approval. He explained that ,according to the new'.DEprc=cedure, every building that goes up in any zone other* than
R -O, R-1, or R-2 has to go 'through site plan review iii addition,
every rezoning request has to come in with a General Development
Plan,
The Commission felt they should review the procedural forms and REVIEW
report any proposed revisions at the next meeting or directlytotheStaff,
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August 2, 1972
Planner Overhiser stated • that the report contains an overall guide WATBILfordevelopmentofthe, water system. Flans for sewer, storm system,P,
and Land Use are also being formulated,, He added that the proposed
reservoir sites in the eater Report are the main consideration,
for the Planning Commission. The Council will be considering
acquisition of these sates in the near future.
Commissioner Kroskin wondered if there were any set timings
for development; Councilman Niles answered: that the Council
would establish deadlines that would invariably be tied to
projected sewer and water impravements
Acting Chairman Keeley felt that this subject tied directly to MEQ.Lt =
the discussion of the Metropolitan Council's proposed stopping ILRBAN
or limiting of urban expansion.
Planner Overhiser then explained that the Metropolitan Council
had reached a consensus that Staff would draft a recommended
Policy Statement in resolution form that would ,adequately serve
to limit development to areas with water and sewer available
until. the Village Council has the projects scheduled and
tentative development Lines can be drawn. As the Commission
reviewed the newspaper article on ;Metropolitan Council Urban
Expansion, Mr. Overhiser stated that the Village Staff has
discouraged developers on a discussion basis if an area has
no water or sewer available. The resolution of the Village
Council: would aid the Staff in discussions with the developers
and land. owners.
In summary, Planner Overhiser stated, that the Water Report is
a guide for the future development of the water system and that
each addition to the sy.-,tem will have to be evaluated as to its
benefit to Village water customers and its effect on the total
system,
rA Ml MIP Plymouth Courter Conditional.. Use Permit for Ban2e A-4lQ
Planner Overhiser explained that Minneapolis 'ridustrial Park
MIP) is asking; for a Conditional Use Permit for a bank in the
Plymouth Court Building .for a period of three years. He added Conditional.
that MIP is in an. 1--1 district and the Zoning Ordinance lists Use Permit
several offices that are not permitted to be housed in an 1--1 for
district, such as medical offices and general multi --use offices. bank
Planner Overhiser believed the bank could be considered a
conditional use in an 1-1 district, but could more logically
be considered a conditional use in a B-1 district,
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Commissioner Hagen felt that since banks have always been the
focal point of a business district it would be more sound to
place a bank in,a B-1 district. He stated that he.was totally
against rezoning,
Planner "erhiser stated that the distinction between the I-1
and the " I district centers: around generation of traffic; the
1--1 distx i.ct does not permit general office buildings because
such buildings tend to generate more traffic. Me believed,
howev'W that the zoning problem should he disregarded at this
time and the bank should be considered as a bank primarily for
People employed in the I-1. district.
Commissioner Hagen asked Mr. Charles Wagner, Plymouth State Benk
President, whether or not the Bank had been granted a Charter,
Mr. Wagner replied that the bank had attained a Charter in 1.970
and FDIC Insurance in March of 1972. Acting Chairman Keeley
wondered if the bank would eventually be located in downtown
Plymouth. Mr. Wagner- stated that it probably would
Mr. Richard Cox, representative of MIP, stated that occupation
of this building, is to be temporary only and that this was
the only building open to them. Mr,. Cox added that the bank
could not locate any other piece of land that is presently
properly zoned.
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Mr. Wagner informed the Commission that the bank would be located
on County Road 6 across from Gold Pond and would use the back
door entrance. When asked by the Commission if a drive -up
facility would be considered within the next three years, he
answered that perhaps it would be considered if additional land
5,000 square feet - were available to allow people to move into
and out of the drive -ups without congesting traffic.
Commissioner. Kroskin. questioned why this request for Conditional
Use Permit was ,not b ough.t before the Planning Commission before
being submitted for Council consideration,.: Mr. Cox answered that
it dad never occurred to :MIP that their request was not a permitted
use under the Village Zoning Ordinance. Commissioner Kroskn stated
that he would abstain from all voting on the matter.
Commissioner Hagen made a motion, seconded by Acting Chairman MOTION TO
Reel ey, to grant a three (3) year Conditional Use Permit for RECOMMEND
occupation of a bank in a Planned Industrial District within APPROVAL
the Plymouth Court Building and without a drive-in teller
facility. Commissioner Roth felt that this Conditional Use
Permit should be treated as other Permits and should thus be
reviewed annually.
Motion carried; 8-0-1, Reg Kroski.n abstaining, MOTION CARRIED
Planning, Commission Minutes _ August 21 1972
Review of Comprehensive Land Use 8 Community Facilities Guide Plan
Planner'Overhi,ser asked for discussion and: review, of the Compre-
hensive Land, Use and Community Facilities Guide Plan, It was LAND. 11 ,A itD
explained that at first discussion the Mayor felt Staff should Ci1M,E,-
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contoct neighboring communities, counties, school. districts, :
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and T,iie State on a Staff-to-Staff basis, set up a public hearing CULT R
after which the Mayor would contact each of the officials of
zovernment units and ask for offi ial comments . Review
Acting Chairman Keeley stated that water pressure had been increased
ten pounds to seri " °e the I--1 and B"-4 areas around the Soo Line
I'ndustri'al Park,. 14o felt that it was a waste of money for the
Village to develop a water supply for these Iri.nge areas when
most of the development is concentrated in the central portion
of Plymouth.. Acting Chairman Keeley then polled the Commission
as to whether or ,not they would be in favor of dropping the Soo
Line Industrial Park from the Comprehensive Guide Plan. Commissioner
Hazen stated that he was in favor of the change,; Commissioner kroskin
wondered what would take its place - it was determined the change
would best be made to LA-1 and LA--2.
Planner Overhiser believed a check should be made as to the number.
Oof Industrial acres guided in the Village and what percent is left
for development and then for that 4 number of acres left to develop
determine if that is enough for Plymouth at saturation point with-
out the Soo Line Industrial Park
The general consensus of the Planning Comn:issioix *gas that the Rt OMMENDEn
Soo Line Industral park is not imperative and the X3--4 Business CHANGE
area, should be rot-ined with a LA-2 area extended about .five
hundred (50G) feed -to the nort,) end of the LA-1.
IA Hussman Investment Company, Ranchview Manor 365 }?. UCH3 TZW
The Planing Commission reviewed the final plat of "RANCTVJ :EW Final Plat
MANOR" and concurred that the Chairman should sign the plat.
242 Imperial Hills Sth and 6th Additions A--242 lMa&TAL
The Plannirag Comma ssi )n reviewed the final plat of "IMrEPIAL Final Plat
HILLS!' and concurred that the Chairman should sign the plat.
194." a A-194` A-350 'r Delos Taylor 6 Playho;jse Revised _Proposal A-
3501
The Planning Commission believed they have giver, enough guidance '6Y_LQAND
to the proponent which was included in the Planning Commission
Minutes of July 19, 1972 as corrected and that the developer MUDZAL
Planna,ia Commission minutes' August 2, 1972
should forthcomef. tc h wa.th a bona fide Ganeral. Development Plan,
Report Bly. Commissioner Hager. on the FLOOD PLAIN FLOOD PLAID
REPORT
Co missioner Hagen reported to the ;'lommission on the proposed
Flood Plain Zoning Ordinance He stated that his report contained
only terms and hard facts and that engineering data would have to
be secured for the core information, Planner Overhiser stated
that Staff would draw up some preliminary maps to accompany the
Flood Plain Zoning Ordinance. Commissioner Hagen stated he would
get his Commi.ttee together sao?, to review the Ordinance.
Reporty Staff On Planning Cbmmission/Vil age Council Consensus C:)?SENSUS'
After ana:,.ysis, Staff found that the Council has differed with
the Planning. Commission only five times out of twenty-,nine for
the period April through July, 1972 -- (830 or E3e).
Motion was made by Acting Chairman Keeley that the Minutes of 7-19-72
July 19, 1972, be approved as corrected. Commissioner Hagen. Ma-n-' utas
seconded the motion. Motion carried, 3-0-1, Reg Kroski.n
abstaining.
Meeting adjourned at 11:57 p.m.
08/07%7:2 gr William Keeley, Acting Chairman
Plymouth Planning Commission
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