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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 07-05-1972PLANNING COMMISSION VILLAGL OF PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA JVUL 5, '197 i A regular meeting of the ;Planning Commission was called to order by Chair -- man Wahl at 7-,,,;4 p. -,n, in the Council. Chambers of the Public Works Building on. Wednesday, July 5, IV 2, MEMBERS PRESENT:, Chairman Jim Wahl, Conn--nissioners Jim Threinen, Bill Keeley and. Warren Chapman` MEMBERS ABSENT Commissioners Fran Hagen., Reg Kroskin and John Roth STAFF PRESENT: Martin. Overhiser, Sandy Haugen A-405 Coachman Corporation A-403 The Public Hearing was opened at 7:54 p.m. COACEMAN CORPORATION Pl;anne i Overhiser explained this is a rezoning request Rezoning R-0 to B -s to B-$ Service Business for a parcel located at the Southwest corner of Fernbrook Lane and Highway 55 lying PUBLIC HEARING between the proposed service 'road and Highway 55. They propose to build a 170 unit :note', service station, restaurant and two other buildings as yet undetermined, Lawrence Zamor, Excelsior, explained they are an Omaha PROPONENTS' based operation and that this is their first venture into— building. ntobuilding. The motel will either be a Best Western or a franchise. Tom Anderson, architect, explained th•:i>dilding will be two stories with a swimming and recreation area enclosed but rest of the interior area open;, Duane 'Temple, engineer, stated they have discussed the; Future plans for th,e Highway 55 and Fernbrook intersection with the Highway Department and that it will be upgraded at some time in the: future but plans are as yet indefinite., Mrs. Betty Anderson, 2505 Fernbrook Lane,, who owns proper- ty adjacent to this parcel asked if this developnient mould in any way affect her property. Gary Freund explained that Circle Star Boulevard will be developed between Fernbrook Lane and Niagara Lane and that she could possibly be assessed for this street: but that the developer would be required to put it in as part of the development. The Public Hearing was closed at 5:10 p.m. There being no motion for action, the subject was referred to the Committee of the Whole Toi further discussion, Planning Commission Minutes July 5, 1972 iCommissioner Threi`,en s1 ggested more discussion with the developer as ko tht eg-:vess and ingress to the prop- erty. r Tempi stated ttzdy were most concerned with access to FernlY000k Lne :{ Highway $5. They desire a deceleration mane --,nnd one ingress drive off of Highway 55, a right turn only ingress off of Ferxibro:ok for the service station and another two-way drive further south Oil rernbrook. S\.aff re. t;cmmendation is that no access be permitted off of H hwa ; $5 a that access From Fernbroo C be limited to one drive for south bound night -turning traffic only. Gary Freund explainQd they have had discussions with Mr. Osterby of the State Highway Department and that the intersection of Fernbrook and Highway 55 will: be signalized at some time n the future along with the intersection of 1-494 and Highway 55. For this reasoiZ they requested the deceleration sane: ant ingress drive from Highway 55 to lighten the load on the ferebrook intersection. He in- dicated the Highway Department will allow this at the present time but that future plans are ixdefinite,, A-,401 The Carlko Company, Inc. Planner Overhiser explained the petitioner is asking CA_RLKO COMPANY, INC. for a rezoning of a residential lot to B--2, this lot being located at the, Southwest corner of Highway 55 Rezoning R-1 to B-2 and Cottonwood Lane, The lot lies directly west of an existing B--2 district and would extend the commer- PUBLIC HEARING cial zoning across Cottonwood Lane. The proposed use is for an office for the sale of school furniture with some display Commissioner Threinen pointed out the proposed Guide Plan sets this area out as LA -3 Donald Carlson, 6400 Barrie Road, partner in the busi- PROPONENTS ness, explained that 95 percent of their business is sales to schools. They do not encourage people to come to their, offices. He pointed out that the present use for the house is as a. two family residence. He felt their business would creat* less: of a parking; problem than the present use does, and he pointed out they ham?` no intention of changing the outside appearance of the house other than painting. Commissioner Keeley pointed: out that -there is quite a bit of office space available in the Village plus com- bination, office --warehouse complexes and asked if they wl-W_it g Planning Commission Minutes - , 3 July rJ , 1912 had: considered such a location. Mr. Carlson stated it was not the type of atposphere they were looking for and that it would be too expensive for them, John E. Kohout, 2016 West list Street, the other owner of the business, explained they* do not get into warehousing but that the factory ships orders directly to the buyer. lie also stated that for approximately A years they were housed in his, home and that they had no objections from the neighbors. Van. Kardashian, 1015 Ives Lane, stated he was concerned OPPONENTS that as the: business prospered they would make improve -- meats to the building which would change the outward appearance of the house. He also was concerned that if the land was zoned commercial it could be sold at some future time to another conct rn who would have different ideas than the current petitioners. Al Hohbein 1020 Ives Lane, pointed out there are plenty of areas of commercial property in Plymouth at the present time, and he feaved zoning this lot commercial would encourage additional rezoning west of Cottonwood. Georgiana Friedman, 1010 Ives Lane, stated she wouldn't object to the rezoning if it was limited to this prop- erty but also feared further rezoning of the residential areas surrounding this lot. Harvey Schiebe, 1215 Goldenrod Lane, stated he wase not opposed to the rezoning but was concerned about taxes He owns property to the west and felt all this land along the highway would probably be zoned commercial at some time in the Future as it would be undesirable to build a home next to a highway. Bud Risberg, 710 Cottonwood Lane, stated there is plenty of room east of Cottonwood Lane for this type of use and felt this would harm, thein houses on Cottonwood Lane The Public Hearing was closed at 800 p,m. Motion for Action made by Commissioner Kceley, seconded by Commissioner Threinen. Motion passed 4--0. Motion made by Commissioner Keeley, seconded by Commis- ACTION signer Threinen, to recommend denial, of the rezoning request for the following reasons MOTION TO RECOMMEND DENIAL 1. Further stretching of the commercial district to the East of this property would create additional traffic congestion and would encourage Planning Commission Minutes July 5, 1372 other property owners along the highway to petition for .zoning changes which would create strip oila' ng 2. The proposed change is not compatible with es- tablished land use patterns inasmuch as single family homes adjoin the petitioners' site on the Wast and South. 8. The change would be a deterrent to the improve- ment of development of adjacent property with single fam*"ly homaQ.1gners often reluctant to live next to busin:e;s uses. 4. The property can be used in accordance with existing zoning regulations 5. There are. adequate sites for the pro,osed use in other disIvicts in the Village permitting such uses. Motion to recommend denial passed 4-0. A-406 J. Bernard Heller A-4061 Planner Overhiser explainedthe petitioner's proposal J. BERNARD HELLER is to subdivide his existing parcel into two parcelst Subdivision V ari anee Parcel 1" of approximately 73,600 square: feet and Parcel.. 21' of approximately 21,700 square feet. The petitioner dishes to sell "Parcel l" and retain "Par- cel 2," site of his existing house; Commissioner Chapman questioned whether or not the petitioner could: get a building permit for Parcel as he felt it would qualify as a flood plain. Planner Overhiser stated the Department of Natural Resources did not look at this parcel as being part of the Lake Commissioner Keeley stated he felt it was foolish to have contiguous land on two sides of a. street and that the subdivision should be granted, The petitioner explained than "Parcel 1" had been filled in by dredging the lake with a permit from the Department of Natural Resources. The present elevation at shore line is 890 feet, Motion made by Commissioner Threinen, seconded by Commissioner Chapman, to recommend approval of the MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL subdivision variance and the variance of 5 feet for the width o:L Parcel 2. Motion passed 4-0. Planning Commission Mn:utes .. July, 8,, 1972 A-404 Shelf Oi Company WAYZAT:A SR. HIGH SCH. The petitioner requests_ a Conditional Use Pe it SHELL OIL COMPANY to install , car washing eqi pme t on one staa t of his Coditaonal Use Permit service station. They proj ios i to build a rear garage PPr•rnit for Ice Arena: entrance and driveways to the year of the station Lotion -;kde by Commissioner Chapman, seconded by 140TION TO RECOMMEND' Commiss `on r Keeley; to recommend denial of the Con- DENIAL di:tional Use Permit because it is a further encroach- mens on a r-.si,dent district Commissioner .'hapman stated the station is not kept up now, and: he felt the use should not be enlarged, Chairman Wahl palled the Commissioners if they would object to a facility where traffic would drive in aix d bac: gut the same: front entrance.. All agreed they would not object to this type of operation. John Dygstra stated they 'had landscap wg plans for the near of the btiAlding which would grt..tly improve the appearance of the station. Commissit er Chapman pointed out that the.e, e proposal was. maci when the station was built, but that: the landscaping; was not done and the grounds are not kt'-pt up. Mr. Dygstra stated the rear entrance would allow them ,*o stack up to 12 cars at a given time and eliminate tnaffi.c con- gesticn in the front of the building. '"ilairman Wahl stated he felt this would oontribil+p .o the noise problems of the neighbors. Motion to recommend denial passed 4--0. A-396 Wayzata Senior High School A-390' The Petitioner requests a Conditional Use: Permit for a WAYZAT:A SR. HIGH SCH. multi-purpose athletic field house (community service building) which would seat approximately 900 people. Conditional Use PPr•rnit for Ice Arena: Commissioner : ,:ley asked what would happen to the two existing hockey rinks. Mr. Gavarae indicated one would be relocated on the high school property -end the other moved to Birchwood School. Commissioner Chapman questioned the exterior finish of the building, They indicated the hockey association was proposing a metal building but that the school board was thinking in line of concrete h1-)ck. Planning Commi.ss.ion Minutes July 5, 1972 Motion mads by Commissioner Keeley, second by MOTION TO RECOMMEND Chairman Wahl, to recommend approval of the Con- APPROVAL di.tioaal Use Permit. Commissioner Chapman stated he objected to the con;- StrllctS.on of a metal buitll ing.. Commissioner Keeley stated he did not feel the Village could prohibit a metal building if the State Building Code allows it. He also stated he did not think some metal buildings were objectionable. Koti,on to recommend approval passed on a vote of 2--0.,2 MOTION CARRIED Chairman Wahl and Commissioner Xeeley voting aye, Commissioners Chapman and, Threinen abstaining). Proposed Amendment: to the Zoning Ordinance PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO2Ohi1NNG ORDINANCE The Village Council at their June 19, 1972 meeting did direct the staff to p,epard a solution to the Parking in 1-1 Dist. interpretation problems involved in this: section of the ordinance and to teen discuss the proposed solution with the Planning Commission prior to further consider- ation by the Council.. TI -e staff's proposal would prohibit parking in any front required setback area lying between the side lot lines. This Mould allow parking between the required setback line and the building itself if the building" were set back further than tae ordinance requires, Commissioner Cha,pm> a stated he felt it was appealing to see a building with Ao parking in the front of the building. Commissioner Tbreinen stated he d d not find parking in front of a buildin. g objectionable if the required setback area was a green area. Chairman Wahl polled the Comissioners as to -their interpretation .of front ;hard. All agreed they inter- nterpretedpretedfrontiyardaslyingbetweenthelotlines. Planner Overhiser pointed out that the ordinance defines front yard as being between the side yard lines only and not between the side lot line and that is part of the confusion. Chairman Wahl stated, he felt the problem could be sol..ed by changing the definitions of front, side and rear yards to conform to the front yard following the front line of the building from lot line to lot line. Planner Cverhiser felt thi- might create, problems in other sections of the ordinance. Commissioner Keeley Planning --_Dmmission Minutes - 7 July S., 1972 stated he felt it would be easier to make ametdments to this 1-1 section rather than changing the definitions, Conmissioner Keeley stated he agreed ,that no parking should be allowed in equired front yards but felt some allowance should be made for v'isitcv parking in, that area possibly on a ratio basis to the size of the building.. He also felt by prohibiting parking in estab- lished front yards (between 'the street and the building) the Village would be forcing developers to increase the size of their lots. Motion; rade by Commissioner Threinent second by Chair- MOTION TO DEFFR man Wahl to defer action on this matter and refer it to the Committee of the Whole for further discussion. Motion passed 3.-1 with Commissioner Keeler opposed. A--287 John Gullickson A-237 Chairman Wahl explained that ;the staff report indi-- JOHN GULLICKSON Cates the petitioner has met all of the conditions Site Plan approval set forth by the Planning Commission at their June 7,j 1972 meeting. Commissioner Chapma:.'1 asked Planner Overhi er if he felt this area woul: be defined as a flood plain area. lir. Overhiser stated that the Bassett Creek Flood Control Commission has set up a management area along„ both the Plymouth and: Bassett Creeks but that this area is not called out as past of this management area. Commissions Chapraan pointed out that the entire area to the South of =this property and East of Sunset Hill School drains into this property. Commissioner Keeley pointed out that the Village has criteria which states that nothing can be built on a flood plain. Motion made by Commissioner Keeley, seconded by MOTION TO RECOMMEND Commissioner Chaprnan ta recommend apiaroval of the APPROVAL site plan as resubmitted but express to the Village Council the Planning Commission's concern about the suitability of the land in question rulative to its existence adjacent to or possibly as a part of a flood plain. Approval is also Conditioned on th6, dedication of 17 feet of right -cif -way Lo the Vil.lagi and the provision of the required park donation prior* to a building permit being issued, Votion passed 4--0,