HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 03-01-1972PLANNSNVI CMIM31ON
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A regular meeting of the Planning Commission was called to order by Chairman Jim
Wahl at 7:40 p.m. in the Council. Chxibers of the Public Works Building on Wednesday, March 1, 1072,
MBERS P SFM: Chairman: Jim Wahl, Commissioners Fran xlagen, Bill Keeley, Warren;
Chapman, John Roth, Reg. Kroskin and Jim Thre"nen
STAFFPRhSMMartin Overhiser, Milton Dale, Sandy- Ilaugen
MHhRS PRFSW John, Roby, Leonard Busch, rill Ferril., Bob Naegele, Oenry flokemeier,
Hans klagen, Don I-less and Peter Fom
i Schaper Manufacturing Company A 37Z
Schaper Man,. acturipg Company, 9909 South Shore Drive, requests SCHAPER ISI UFAC IRING CO.
a Conditional Use Perma.t for construction of a silo for storage
of Dlastic-Dellets. TbeY alts to construct one silo at the Conditional Ilse Permit
prOsent tine, Anel. futuro expansion could possibly call. for three
more. The silo would be approximately 48 feet, in height which
would require a 'variance as Crdi:nanco la.mit.s height to 43 feet,:
The Ordinance also limits placement of an)r structure higher than
4S feet to be located not closser than 300 feet to any lot in a
residential district. The location proposed by the Petitioner
wculd be less than 310 feet from the residential lots on ,south
51iore Drive
John Roby appeared on behalf of Schaper Manufactur;i.ngCo. and ex-
plained that the location next; to the railroad tracks is the most
convenient for their needs. The: gnat, rials would be pumped over
the tracks: into the building;. 'Ile in,'I.cated the size and height
was the unit they felt Mould best suit their needs as it contained
one railroad carload. lie also indicated that these materials
could be located within the building but that they }gated to lose
the fl:onr apace and that underground storage was impossible be-
cause of the water level. In response to suggestions by the Com-
missioners Mr. Roby told them that he was agreeable to their
sugge,stion, that if anymore than one silo were built they should
be encnased in a structure which would look like a building and
he a v; ` ' ectural.ly compatible with the Thain building.
Commissioner Roth stated he felt the silo would be very object-
ionable to the residents in the area and specifically in view of
the tact trbat a park was being developed noxi to this property
and the entire area upgraded as a result. Commissioner Kroskin
agreed but felt that because the pillage had created an industrial
park they :must accommodate hosp, businesses who locate there to
some degree,
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Plannanff Commission - Z - k-TaM4 1, 1972
C:ommxssioner Chapman pointed of t that in the I-1 district the new
sign; ordinance limits signs to 36 feet; in height and did not feel
they should grant avariance to allow a silo of this height.
Commissioner Keeley told the Comiiissianers that there are many
ways of handling the transfer of material and it doesn't reallymakemuchdifferencewherethesiloislocated.
Motion made by Comnissioner Chapmwa, sexond by Commissioner Roth, WrION TO REMMiCNI) DENIALtorecommenddenialoftheConditionwl 'IJse Permit. Motion passed
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6-1 with Commissioner ilireinen opposixg
Di response to a request from tier. Rory for directim as to what PIAMINC COWISSION' StheplanningCommssion's recommendations are, a Motion was made
by Chairman Ifahl, seconded by Comrdssi.oner K oskin, that the
RECONVMATION
Petitioner be advised that a project wherdby the proposed stor-
age does not exceed the roof line of the building in height, is
screened by some type of wall anal meets all setback requirements
of the zoning Ordinance would be recommended for approval by thePlanningCommissionMotionpassed7-0.
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Leonard Busch, 4045 Highway 101, requests a renectir.l of the Cion- LEOWD BC1,SCH
ditional Ilse Permit issued February 16, I970 for a }period of two
year: to allow a mobile home, to be placed on his property. Conditional Ilse Permit
Planner Overhiser indicated to the Commissioners that the Build-
ing- Inspector reported no complains during; the past two years
relative to this mobile home.
Motion ztade by Commissioner Chapman, seconded by Commissioner MOT10i"T TO RFC,WThrei.nen, to recommend approval of the Conditional, Use Permit for APPRO IALaperiodoftwoyearsoruntilsaidpropertychangesownership, u1iichever comes first, to allow a mobile ;home to be placed on
said property and to be located where it will not be visible, from
Highway 55 or Ilighi4czy 101. Motion: pissed 7-0
preen tents to the. zoning Ordinance - Sign Regulations A N[ NrTN1S TO THE
ZO;`I:C' ORpI?CETheCommissionersalongwithBillFerri1,, Chaizman of the Board
ZONI GORDIMNI E
o zoning Adjustment, reviewed the revised text of the amend---° ----- -
ments as prepared by the staff and made a few minor changes in
tiie language. Mlotion .made by Commissioner Roth, second by Com- N 1'I'IOIN TO APPROVE
missioner Chapman, to approve the revisions to the Sign Ordinance. REVISIONS
0 `Motion passed 7-0.
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Planning, Comission A!axch 1, 1972
Motion made by Chairman 1'bhl, second by Commissioncr Chapman, to
reopen the discussion on the Sign Ordinance to specifically con-
sider Section 17, Subdivision 6 -relative to advertising signs.
Motion -pztst,-,d 7-0. ADV RTISIN G STC NS
Bob Xaegele of Naegele Outdoor Advertising Company told the Com-
missloners he was concerned dbout the followikg:
1. Advertising signs should be allowed in B-2 and B-4, districts
2. The 300 square foot maximum size should be increased, and
he told the Connissioners that most of their poster boards
are 750 square feet in size
3. The 2,000 foot maximum distance between signs should be
lowered to less than 1,000 feet on state highways and from
300 to SOO feet on county Toads
4. Questioned what would happen to present signs, which wouldg
be nonconforming under the new regulations, specifically
in regards to the minimum 20 acre district limitation. Plan-
ner Gverhiser indicated this was before the VJllage attorney
for clarification.
The 300 foot setback requirement from 'residential districts,
parks, intersections of streets, :etc. is unfair to adver-
tising signs,
The Commissioners discussed the reconnendation of increasing .le
maximum size to 750 square feet., Commissioner Hagen asked if
there was any tax benefit to the coanLmity from advertising signs.
It was determined they are classified as personal property, and
therefore most of the tax dollar goes to the County. Commissioner
Kroskin pointed out that all the outdoor advertising companies are
located outside of Plymouth, and therefore he did not want to ;ee
any further deviatioils from the sign ordinance as the Commissioners
were in agreement that signs up to 750 square feet could be allowed,
on major highways but not on state or county roads.
Notion made by Commissioner Xxoskin, second by, Commissioner MOTION TO ADOPT SECTION 17
Keeley, to adopt Subdivision 6 of Section 17 (Advertising Signs) SUBDIVISION 6aswrittenwiththeamendme,.it to Section a(l) which would permit
signs not to exceed 750 square feet in size on interstate highways.,
Motion passed 7-0.
Motion made by Commissioner Xroskin, second by Comadssioner Roth, MOTION TO RECONNW MffM-
to recomend to the Village Council that the amendments to Section pn. rrS To SECTION 4 A
4 and Section 17 of the Zoning Ordinance (subject to the Planning =ION 17 13B APPROVEDCommissionChairman's xeview and approval of the revised text) be
approved. Nlotion passed 7-0.
ibtion made by Chairman Wahl, second by Commissioner Roth,, to
refer the amendments to Section 21, Subdivision 2 back to the
staff to be rewritten and returned to tha Planning Commission.
iNbtion passed 7-0.
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A-305 Shaughnessy's Illood Creel:" Addition A-3t1S
Pl=er Overhiser briefly rc-^riewed the history of this plat and SI:IAUG SSY'S IACD CUEKxl
the xecelit activities of the student's "Save: the Trees' Commit-
tee. lion Ness of midwest Pl,--ning and Peter, pom of Lundgren
Brothers Construction, Cmzpany presented some preliminary proposals
to the Commissioners to get their reactions and reccrrmendations.
Mar. less indicated he Felt some type of townhouses or clusters
mixed in, with single family homes would be the best use for tha
land and that they would not.regvest r4zoning for these townhouses
or clusters but only variances oa -he building types under the R -I
density requirements. It was the consensus .cif the Commissio:ners
that they would Favor nothing of a greater density than R-1 with
a mixture of single family and cluster homes as the terrain legislates.
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Plamer Overhiser presented, a proposed revision of the M.I.P. MIP INVTSrRIAL VILLA{
IndustrW,. Village Site Plan which would replace sites G R and
I pith one large building for which they have a tentative tenant.
Uio Commissioners iiidicated they would have no objections to this.
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The, Commissioners were provided with copies of the Council's COUNCIL rROJECTS
1972 project list for them information and review.. PRIORITIES
Motion made by, Commissioner Keeley, second by Commissioner APPROVAL OF MINI= -S
Threinen, to approve the minutes of the 1-19w72, 1-26-72 2-2.-72,
2-9-72 and 2-16-72 meetings. R:Dtion passed i-0:
Chairman Wahl brought to the Commissioners' attention a, section PLANNING C(MvII SIGN j
of the By -Laws of the Planning Commission which were approved at BY-LAWS
tho previous meeting which he felt should be changed. Motion
made by Comissioaer Chapman, second by Commissioner Kros in, to
amend the approved By -Laws Lo read under Article VII, Section '3
The matter before the Comriission shall be presenteO in summary !;
by a person designated by the Chairman, and parties in interest
shall have the privilege of the floor". Motion passed 7-0.
Motion to adjourn Massed all in favor. INieeting adjourned at ADJOIJM E.NT