HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 05-19-1971VILIAGE, OF PLMTH
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May 19, 1971
A regular meeting of 'the Planning 'Con nission, was called to order by Chaivman Wahlonstay19, 1971 at. 7.45 p.xrl the Gymnasium. of Beacon 1 eights SC11OQI, 12315 01soa j
ie "Or, Al IEighway, Plymouth, i'zuzesota .
PRESWir: Chairalmn Wahl, Commissioners Eros ,in, dune, Kegley, Neils, Rath and,
Planner Bergly
MINT,. Commissioners Pollock, Ch apnian Egan
A-308iiendment to Section. ion 3
A public hearing was. held regarding an ordnance rhan s ua:ndirag A -30a
Section 13s Subdivision 3 of the Plymouth: Zoning Ordili ahce . The MCE, CfIAi GE
AeW ordinance 'would permit a, sporting goods stare in a 'a-3 zone SEC`T`ION 13, SUI;. 3
by conditional use ltendt. The petition Was submitted t y the IO ALLOW A SPORTING
developer and proposed owner of the sport og goods store --not by GOODS STORE IN A E-3
the Village. ZONE PY GOND. USE PEI
See R,tox , Public hearing (5/19/71) and Discussion. and Action REFERENCE - A308
ay Conissioners (5/19/71) for details,,, 5/19/71
Motion made by Ckvaissioner June, second by Comniss.loner Roth, to WTION TO DENY
recommend derial of the proposed ordinance change, Wtion for
denial passed 4-2 With, Commissioners, l'M1,7uz,a, Keeley, Moth voting
for denial $Md C:oMissioners Kro*zia at d, Neils opposed to denial.
A-312 Fox Nleado.4s 2nd Addition
A public hearing was lield on, the petition of 1 -Amar Builders ;dor A-312 FOX VDOJVS
prelixdnary ;plat approval for the Fox Meadows 2nd Addition locajted 2ND ADDITION - PRE-,-.
west of Fernbrook Lane and: 1./2 mile- north of highway 5S and alstr 1,DIINARY PLAT 4 PZ. - for tete rezoning of the Fox Meadows 2nd Addition from R -O Open ZONING R•-0 TO R-4
Residence District to l- 4 1\Jultiple Fwiiily Residence Distri.ct,.
See Record:` of Public Hearing and Discussim and Action by Cont- xRSF C2ENCE - A-312
issir ners: (S/1-9/71) for details 57'19/71
Chaiitiwi. Wahl stated that the public hearing on the above petition ITAMG CONTINUED
would be continued.
Motiora trade by Commissioner .Tune, second by Cotissioner Neils, to MOTION TO REk'UR PRB-
end the request for preliminary plat approval to Committee. Motion LDi 1INARY PLAT 'TO
passer., al 4 favor, CMUTTEE
A)tion made by C:omissioner June, second by Com dssxoner Krosd an, wION TO REFER REQ
to send the request for rezoning to Committee Motion passed all ZONING TO CONVITTEE
in favor.
PlAming Ccxmfission Minutes 'k " May19 1971
L%utfi Hills - Ed Waodd
public hearing rias held an petition of Edward tt°oov for rozQning A-31 - RMONS(3 R -aOpen -3 1,jultiple pa}. Y Districtfront. R-+
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See Record of Public .hearing and Disrussi.on avid Action by Cbm— RE.pI REMh _ A-313
nd$Sione $ for details. x tSJ19J71). " SJI/71
111CO Mere WaS no motion: on the petitions it. was automatically REFERRED TO CONUIJ17MreferredtoCounxttee
A-206 - Metro Deve! neat(Quality,Homes
A public hearing was held on, petition of Metro Development (Qual.- A-206 - /Yilomes - Jin Parker) for pvelimiaarw plat approval for the PRE-LDII ARY PLAT
Shen ndoah. Addition in the vicinity of 28th Avenue North, and Vias.- 1M DEIIELopIIE\rrburgLane. QUALITY HaNMSj
See Record o- Public Hearing and. Discussion and Action by Corn- RE RPaME.. A-246-2-1,,IK
missioners for details. (5/15/71) SJl JJ71
lot* nz made by Commissioner Krosk-in, second by Commissioner Keeley, MOTIaN TO APPROVE
to approve the preliiinary plat of Metro Development subject to PRELIMTMRY PLkT
prckpar resolution %f the follow ngw
lx Variances from Zoning Ordinance,:
a. Section 10, $4a. S, para. 2a 4 front yard setback
variance needed in internal areas but not on Vick -s -
burg Lane' or 28th:
b. Section 10, Subd 5, Para. 3a - side yard setback
variance needed -for internal, areas but, not along
Vicksburg sane and 28th..
c. Section 1.0, Subd. S, Para. 4a - rear yard setback,,
variance needed :for int=ernal areas but not along.
Vicksburg hand and 28th.
d. Section 10,. dub& 5, Para. G - lct width and depth
variance for all lots.
x Section 10, Subd S, Para. 7 - lot coverage vara-
aaco needed for xnd.ividual, "hots"' but not total
Section 10, Subd. 8, Para. 2d - private roadways
not constructed to Village specs, but to Engineer's
roquirements `as specified on plans,
planning Commission stint'*es Ully 1., , 1971
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i + h 'y j,-/. 5},, .nT /7w Sectiony / (:,],y Para. A terpieta- ion, o Mr. Yr ction 10, t.i.l.(,a. 8 Para. 3b,T.. to wCan-
IbstiWtion of .(a), 4 quadrotxix1 , knits, (b7 4 regular
townhtn e units, (c),2 deluge townhouse units, for each
other in phases beyond Phase 1 or resisti,..g of the build-
ings thatk does not chsng(,: the circulation pattern substan-
tally, shall not constitute a ''substantial ch-,mv," and
shall not require resubmission to tk e Planning co'mi;ssinn
and Council.
V irianoes fra0, zubdiv-ts Jon Regulations ,
a Section, 7, Subd. 7.04, paragraph 5 - required frontage -
on public street.
b.. Section 7, Subd. 7.04, Paragraph 6 requires minimum
width of 50 -feet at rear property=lane, plat shows 21
25) 25.-5, 28 and 35 feet,
and: subject to the approvaal of the Ilomecn+rner Covenants by, the Village
Attorney. It was further moves to urge the developer to brine any
c1vanges to the attention of the Village staff so that if any major, changes are made, Metro Development dll have to come back to the
Planning Commission. Motion passed all in favor.
motion made by Commissioner Keeley, second by Commissioner Neils' IWION O?T LDvIr' OF
to apVrore the ',Ivised Community Unit Development sate plan w thUNITS OIC SITE
tho litdt of 454 ,mits on the site. Motion passed all in favor.
i,Jotion Made. by Gomurr,ssi.oner Keeley, sewed by Cowdssioter Neils, WITION ON APPROVAL
to approve final: site plan for Prase I as initialed by Stet Parker, OF FINAL SI'rT,1 PLM,
dated t>.)- 19, 1971, calling, to the attention of the Council that FOR PUASE 1
thero is one twporary street witl, egress oil Vicksburg, Matioij
x)assed all in fa'' of a
Notion made 1?- Commissial'ier Neils, second, by Commissioner Keeley, NK)TIOX Mt RECO t ENDATItthat, the Planning Cowiission, xecommoiid to the Manager that he meet TO iAc tAGER
with the appropriate staff personnel, to assure they are f011y aware
Of the novelties of tliis project relative to Village enforeviaont
d sor icy requirements. Motion passed. all it favor.
A 'l y uildeTs
A. public hearing was heldon pet !on of keyway L1vlders for pre- A-317 PItELBth\AIZY
R.t: linary plat approval and site plan gppnWal in the vi ina tyr of PIAT 4 STU PLAN
10th. Avenue North and South Shore Drive. APPROVAL 11'Y'KAY EIXRS,
ee Rocord of Publics-&- aring and Discussion ani REFERENCE - ; -317
sszoners for details. (5/1,'71) S/19/71
num* cwmnllss oll mmto -+ - Iay 11RO, 101
Vb tiurt pude by Cris s oz :r Xrbski second by Ctw , s sio-xior
oapproxi ' he: l3* .tIoY'i'' f e i d SLt. e 1_ o i i fel otr'2t1
Eas01wents for utilities.Mid dxaxnap b e v,=a:ed ani
toe Prt pertr BIT'S roc'.A,..red 1,,y the » its ai4oxA Regu- Kegu-
lations..:. lationsand f-urtitr may,' required chi x ago
Jig3n4f!
DUO to tha rela,txve17 low* nature 0f t1io property under
cOnsiderati n, the B.xjlding Tz,pector sh,.11establish
basement floor grades on, the three vacant lots.
S. °That the Village bigineer appvo re .ale.utility W4 drain,-
4. 711a -t a W iance be granted for the lot death o -f three
5 . 'shat av;z ess, to the exit/ ting garago oxo; Spot 1 be wwide d
from the pr:,)posed cu- 0 -sac Father than from Cawlty;
Road, 70 a s, 3s now existing..Note., The Soi th 3S ft, of L:ot #s jillould
Motion, passed € ll in fawn, be dedicamed for VL bljcq r4it of vay
for 10th Ave. J. Troposed col,lector, St.).
293 (Patl e t I.71S j w A-30,6 fexitage- It '
MAe TOUltS o -f COIZ. ittee Tecor=endations Mid the action of the A29.8 & A306
Cc, ini.s'4 on to rocorn nd granting of Paul 2ej,tj ,request. alta tjje IQXXORT OF ACI`JON O"
dmia l of Herd Cage-Retibran(lt's request were read to the public 5/12/7.1. Ria PAIJL ZKI-
Pr#.sent» (See WIL'utsion and, Action, by C.mm issioners fron, May 12, TSS F HaRTTAGE-
1971 in. petitioror's respective files , ) RINUMET .
A-519 .. SubeivIsiOn WaiNrer for Dorothy Krek,:iberg 0-iarri$on's
Lake V ey Ad:!ition)
elle Planning Co mission. heard the request for a stibd .vision wa ro A-319
for Dorothy Vii, KT xkelberg in t!10 vicinity, of 61st Avenuc North
and Lost of ' .lodk Lane,
DOROTHYY . WEITIBERG.
SUBMItIS10N WAMR
S-ee Discwssim wkc? Action by Gotwissione^rs for djtaijsu (5/19/71) l-IMCE_ , A-319
Motion i4ado Icyto r.iss ones Kee,10 . second by Camdssioaer Kroskiny I,OTJCI\j
that the subdiL'f`isix'm N"wtl VF's be grwtimd with the .COI3d tio-a that the
n6t tbera portion of the wxjstag property be treated either by con-
antinuzngnortsA/south lot lines or anal:.ig 01410t subject to the
lr40a'tion Of VAy exIstin,g easements along, former lot lines
not being used 4h the revised division.
P101
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CoDm ssioa Minutes _ , stay, 19, 1971
Granting of utility and drainage 2asements- .along all
property lines as required by Village Ordinances and
As further required by the, Village rr4giteer:k
Puling of tie. plan in: t,' .e saw m4mer as a px el mi inary
plat,
vlotion passed all in favor.
A-314 Janice Weau - Conditional, Use Pepxtt
yttyy y ry( rr .,1y#+}yyy'ry'y y. { gy { e { + y q y. an' 4+.nIc 1 "a,ez a, x zi} LI aJ4++4da e '1A .:I,*4.Hai, c.t.I J,`.I,.nnesota.F. r.g1{1r+ t ed. a
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coaR ional, use pondt to .operate a one-wman beauty shop in hex CUN,DITIOM, USE PEWIT
ht u BWM SHOP SiV NONE
i tion utarde by Comissioner Yxoskxn, second by Commxsslonor Roth, HMON
to opprovo the request to operate a boauty shop i-a the home of
0 #dry qy {, rynytimep.{., jA JuneTMIL'a Wu Withreview
passed 5-1 with Comlissiono r Reeley voting ag.- nst.
Commissioner Keeley stated he was voting against this petition:
because he is not In-,favor of any typo of business 1n an. R`1 zone.
A-315 - Beeit Krause - Conditional Use Permit
w"`^ww''uxw.rvwwttrr+i wwr'ry tn--'-
Betty Krause, 10708 South, Shore Drive., pl noutK, requested a condi-- A-Us
tiona,1 use peu t to operate a one-Woman beauty shop in a building BEITY IMUSE CONDI-
on: IL1rr rc r-t TIONAL USS PMffT
BRA= .gK)P ON PR5115tiS
See Discussion mid Action by Cornus i.onexs ;dor deta .l,*, (5/19/71.)
A-315 POR REFERENCE'
Wtion made by .Cmmdssioner Wahl, second by Connissioner June, to WTION TO TABLE
table tyle request until the legality of "home occupation" can be
chech-ed outwith the Village itorney. btion passed S-0.
Al 31.1 - Grp Site Ilan xeval
Ciro Corpoxat;i,on requested site plan approval for o building lo- A-511 - SIIT RLhN
cated'North o1; 10th Avenue North and one block west of County 13. M3, 0 CORPORATION
ee1lscuss' 2.0n and Action by Comissioners 1-bi, details. (5/19/71) REPEP
btion made by Conmazs5loner June, second by Coanmissxoner Y.Tos),-in, NOTION
to npPrave the site plan subject to the following conditions.
lY That the site plan en ineer, nq detall,s 'pie atnnxoved by
the Vil.laze Fnvineer` before a building pexnalt is issnied,
t is to include but shall not be Iiia .ted to filte xecorq-
mendat: ons in Ron Rudxud's menta, on Rudrud's letter
of S/ 5/71 attached in file A-311).
2 . 'Teat Utility and drainage easements be provide. 'I along, all
roperty Lines as required. by ordi
May 19 ,1971
record, of Pub is iiearin A309.
Public Bearing:, d)etition of an, B. Arman requesting an -ordinance change amand-
in Section 13 Subdivision 3 of the blvmo-uUT-i,oniiTg- `dinance .
7Wnewoxd;Lnance woLIt a sporting goods store in a B-3
zone`s conditional use erma.f . T i t;.ar, was. iWmitted
the deve,...r an propose owner of the sporting go s*ore- not
by t1i. CraHage: ` _.
Plarner Bergix ` Gave, the iocatiola of the building as 10740 Highwa 55. TSe stated
t%is sub cot`beer thoroughlyiscussec!"at the April,?2 171
et gg e Discussion and &f—,'oi y onma.ssYoners,
1971) FileAMC man.',r uest is for a particol ax build
ing; for Clic: sporting goods More. A B-3: zone ismti my for a. high.-
way type product--prin ri y .a sezIC to the motoringg up blic.
Adan, Sherman:. Felt the location of the buildix% was; rfect for a high- uali:ty
sporting oas store and. would gave to lmmity stetsomething atgg
do es not exist _ r' t now—athletic equipwnt, hunting uld fishing
goods, etc. There are retail br.sinesses in, bro of the three stalls
now --dairy store, liquor store `anao`liday stfatlon to the
west wli?c11 sells more than, as,t bection aboueMijMingi should be
no ro1em.`'1yere
area .
spaces in front of the and employees
15 par an bac,k The c uor store uses -b spaces at one time
and the da store tivot use a&out the sve amount This would
leave 15spaces for hif. business. The onlyiEnepking would
be a pec` -bleb wou cITI before Cl ristmas., opening of fishing and
hunting seasons,, etc.
Gary'reuni Spoke in favor of the amendment change. `They oA n the pro y
mediately east` of tree building end 'will began ccn,tructa.on on an
office bu T -Tang soon. They see no objection. to having the sporting
goods store in that lo,:a.tion and would like to see this typo of ser=-
vice available for the v.oiT wn#y .
Com. l cel. Asked Mr. Shermaan's verification that there would be mr, outdoor
d of boats, snowniobi es, etc.
Mr. Sherman. He would have no outdoor displays.
Com. 1`eils. Stated this was the past stall in his buil dinner in the B-3 zone.
Planner Bergly::, Remanded the people that this ' S , est was. for an ordinance change
an t`fnr a conditional use pest.
W. Shem-ill. Asked w the'ra wasn't an, ord: no-, change necessary to allow the
of ier Two busibess thea o_Y1, :'.
M mn l Ordinance changes were required .
p1:ner rgly Ordinance was cjlwpg,,41 to allow theses of businesses In a3 3 1
zone a c rWaf-Donal u-sopermit..
May 19 ?l
A-3DB
Discussion and Action. by Cmdssiciners.
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Pette Peti tion of .Alan; B. Sherman requesting an ordinaklce chain e an
in Section 13, subdivision 3 of the PlymouUi zo=g Ordinance.,
len Ord nance wool ° pew a s _ orti;goods stare in a B-3,
Zone,` conditional use peTnzt. pet- it— pet an was su °tted-F7
the develo-W an, prp apose of the sporting g-55E store- -not
b e . awe.
Chrm. lfa il: Decision, made tonight will relate to ordinance chaff and special
tis t:
Co If ordinance, change is made, it tvot,ld leave B-3 area open for type
of business permitted. there., Does not feel we, should make an or-
dinance change,
Chrm: Wahl `. Should not have granted other ;ordinance changes to allow the types
of businesses that are is there n(n.
Com. Xroskin: Can't see where this is anconsistent with the other businesseq
listed in B-3 zone under pexmitted uses.
Planner Bergly.. It is similar to permitted uses but didn't feel it was, thel intent '
of the district to have this type of business in a B-3 zone.
Com, Xeils In view of previous action taken by the Planning Co=i.ssion on the
original, subject, would it be appropriate because this is the last
stall in this B- to. grant this request by ordinance waiver.
Motion; btion made by Commissioner June, second, by Conmissioner Roth,
to recozrmend denial of the proposed oxdirlance change. Motionassed
2w t Con n ssioners ah1, June, Xeel.ey, Roth voting for denial -
an3 Commissioners Kroskin and Neils voting against.
Comte Planning Coiluission was aware that there were three buildings there
at the time other ordinance changes were made
CO owner was made aware of what the purposes for the. building were at
the ti3rk-. the other ordinance changes were made.
May 19, 1971
Record of Public He rj. A312
Public acing: Petition of Allnar Builders for p., ;M , nAp a approval for the
2 "& located West of FerTibrook bane and 1/2
mile nort! of I ightiaay S a.zd also for the rezoning cif the rex Meadows
2nd, Addition from $ _Open .Residence District to _R-41blt' ie PamilyResidenceDistrict.;
play Gave a brief description of the area.
Tom Tiq.geit lelanar Bu ldexs represwitatives gave a side presentation.. Mr,
gegen submitted a statisti
A312
Record of Public Hear g, Cont. 12 May 15, 1971 `
Com,, l roskin: Will the, quality of apartments be the same :bi the Foy Meadows 2nd
Addition as itwas in their :est addition'?'
NIr Ilse out=side treatment will be different. ' It will meet all government
regulations because of k11a financing. The duality, will be the same.
Me Northeast section will be a, little higher priced rental unit
because they will mainly b^ 2 or 3 bedroom units--120 total:.
C;hrm. Wahl Mxat arrangements have been made for parking?
il1r. , Tiegen:parking wall be off internal streets. Creating separate, parking
Lots takes away green area.
Com,`Nt'ils Suggested. they givo consideration to the use of underground parking.
Goin. Xeeley Mose not looking; at the greet area are looking at asphalt and garage
roof tops.
Corn. Neils:° What will the Method of garbage disposal be?
WSr Tiegen.: brill probably use a Compactor.
Com. #Crosk= Feels that the items about garbage shoulq ansivered before final
plan are accepted.
Ghpa. Wahl Stated there etas a general circulation study now undens ay.
1'I= The study will. take 30-40. days to complete and would involve the
lout'ltern area of Fox Meadows
Cary Gardner: 14210 35th Avenue North, Plymouth. Stated, he is primarily opposed
to any kind of _apartment structure. Ile would prefer single family
residence. They have no horrycownr rs association in this area yet
because it is relatively new. Ilis major coacern related tothe.
traffic problem that the additional apartment units would create.
Feels roast improvements should be considered before putting more
units in
F. it. ilecl r 1.0610 40th Avenue North, Plymouth. Stated there were inconsis*envies
in the statistics given in regard to school ale Children per acre as
stated by Mr. Tiegen. In regard to. what Mr. Tiegen found out at the
seminar out hast about parking—feels Minnesota has much colder winters
so more covered parking facilities are needed. Flood control ponding
is not an asset. There. is one now on the north. side of 42nd vhkh
is mostly, a mud bank,
Ws. Sandra 10805 49th Avenue ,North, 111,)rrmouth. Had a question about parking Lots
Lester.- and people who have apartments that look out at them,, She felt this
was in contrast with shat they propose as far as land preservation, etc:.
Public }Iearing day- 19, 19711
Dick, raebl er- 4835 York -tom. twio Plymouth. ; F , y; Wanted know what school d_txx.ct
the children .4ould be in
Mr. Tiegen: Wayzata School District M4
Chrm.. Waal Public heariUzgwill be continued until decision on plat. Rominded
people that there are trio parrs to the petition--prel.irnuary plat
and rezoning
Ration: Motion made by Comissioner June, second by, Commis oner ;ros,'c n, to
send the request for rezoning to Committee. Motion passed all in
favor.
Motion: Motion made by Commissioner .dune, second by Commissioner Veils, to
send the request for preliminary plat. approval to Committee. ' ion
passed all in favor..
Com. 'os-kinr Suggested that Commission members toar pox Meadouts lst addition. prior to
the next meeting.
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May 19,, 1971
A31
Discussion and Action by Commissioners
of orprejlat approval. dor the
Zad-Additjpalocated, west, of Fernbrook mane and 1/2 mile north of I
Highway $ and also for ti4 z.Q a:iaa of the poi Meadows 2ND Addition
from., –Open Residence District tom Mil.tiple Family Residence
District.
Chr;zt. Wahl Public hearing will be continued until decision on plat. Reminded
people that there are trio parts to the petition—preliminary
and rowning,
Llotion; Motion made by Commissioner June, second by Commissioner Xrosl\-in, to
end the request dor rezoning Comntxttetota on passed all in
favor.
Mtiow Allot on mace by Commissioner June, second by, Commissioner Neils, to
send the request ,dor preliminary plat approval to Committee, blot on
passed all in. favor,
Com. roskjn: Suggested that Commission: members tour pox Mleadows Ist addition prior
to the next meet:61g:
INiay 19,. 1971
Record, cif Public,: flea
Public, e, , Petition of Edward Woody for rezonxn from R -O Opea Residence D*trict
to 1;x-5 Multip e Niin ,si.deacey riot: ovxzYious fast of
bac to Sane' and 1/4 mile north of County Road 9. (Plymouth Hills)
Planner r Gave,- a brief description of tbe, area involved.
Stanley SoPczyk 144 two r\epresentatives made the presentation for the developer. 11,10
picilm all Knutson: area was part of the Section 12 study amd was suggested Medium density. fir. Knutson had a setter signed by I5 out of 22 people iR the area
stattizkq their approval., They leave 59 1/2 acres' of land and 7 1/2
acres 4411 be for recreation area. They axe attempting to save as
nnany trees as, possible. They are planning on $01 of the townhouses
being two -bedrooms and 204v of them being three -bedrooms.
Com. The Section 12, guide pearl' was approved by a, small majority of the
Planning Conni.:ssion, and the Council has not yet accepted it.,
Councilman The Council has not acted.: on tee Section 12 guide plan yet. Anyone
iUa1t: doing(v*`tr or p1 anuling according to t1i s guide are doing so at their, oryown1e , risk,
Corn, 1"Oeley He has seen two Section 12 area guide plans and they are: at odds with
each other..
took 5-6 thePlat=r Bergly, It mouths, of study before Planning Condssiaon accepted
the plan.They had small copies that; were givn to ` the people;
Cam. Roth Flow did, the voting by the Planning Commission go on Section 1.2 plan?
Com. June: Pour voted; for•, 2 against, 2 abstained.
Dick Graeber: 4835 Yorktown Lane, Plymouth. People who werepresented the, petition
were told the choice was between townhouses or apartmmnts.. The Sig-
natures probably don't mean as :much as people think.; Mr.Graeber
stated the traffic problem with schools .and Couaty'9. lie is opposed
to multiple and town ouse - -feels the area is adapted to single
family residence
Larry' Boa-- 41.5S Revere bane North, Plymouth. President of, the homeowners associ.a-
tion from the area but not representing the people in this case.
Until the Council has given approval to the, Section 12 study, he doesn't
want to see anymore spot zonmig until a plan l5 formulated,
Chem. l4'ahl pxplaized the difference between zoning maps and comprehensive guide
plans.
Robert Putman: 10813 48th Avenue, PI),mouCh. Only five people hadn't signed the
petition. Said everything told the people wa, above hoard. 01r.
Putmanis tho real estate masa who is selling t,Q property.)
May 19, 19 1
Reco of lb dear ng A3
1.1 wardI,, zohnso is 4840 Yorktowxa Trane, P1l?mptitia. Said he was V51d rho choice was:
between, tovxbouses or apax tments . :Peels Kymouth should. get a
guide plan set up and, state what they are going to do for the whole
area,,
Chant. Kalil The Planning Commission must consider any petition that comes before
it, Process of producing a gide plan and having ii. approved is
lengthy because public hearings have to be held..
counci:bm Section 12 study would have to go back to the ' Planning Caatmissioa
tkutt: because of the length of time elapsed since the last, one was passed
by the Connissa on:
Com,oskiii; Theguide plan passed by the Planning Cotiasmission did recommend medium
Mfrs, poo Olson,, 4$31 Woll ngton Lane, Plymouth. Didn't ;feel it was; right that the
petition was taken to husband's business office for signatures, Peat
the fives should have had a, say.
14 1 s Swim 10805 Oth Avenue North Plymouth, Considering thenumber of children
ester: there would be in this area, what would be the comparison of taxes
going to the schools (multiple vs. single family)
Planner Bergly: So7.e single family residences are not meeting their tax base either.
Previous study indicates any home under $30,000 did: not support itself
taxwise. The figure is probably now closer to $40,000. It depends
on 'fie value of the townliouse .
Tom Wanous 4015 Trenton, mane North, T11ytrouth. Cotnneiited about the number of apart-
ments being; built in this area. lliinks the Planning Commission should
take a closer look ,at ivhat will be, developed in Plymouth. The Village
should stop planning any apart ownt 'buildings in the future until
Plymouth has a planner.
Com. June'. Plymouth does hire professional planners to Mork with us at all Mies,
Reward Johnson: Rasied. ,the question about building area size of lots and, extra costs
to police, etc.
krs. Claussenen; 1070548th Avenue north, Plymouth. With two schools in the arca and
apartments, what does this do to traffic problem?
Ott. Wahl.: tile traffic problem was brokxght Ftp at tete aiecttn , where, the site pl
for the school int, presented,.
Mr.. Spb cyk Their design is based, on. the proposal passed by. *.e Planning Cootis-
sion, T'ht Plaxuiing Co=ission said this could be a good area for
medium density. They cvould not: go fartbor if they felt they didn't
have the Planning Commission's, word
xriSv.RNklM lCua.,
y 1.9, 1971
Record of Publit.* flearxn A2,06
Nblic H!"[ir,bA.+ Petition of tietro J.Rvelo hent TQaalkl r Homes". Jim park - for {+( e-
lm xzary or Shenandoah Addition 3 the vicinityc1I] ty
vennu 06rth =d'
PresentedtedC halmmin Stahl ice. h the legal papers for hom"niers associa-
tion,,
Alar -ems : Stated that idth the pIV,,s submitted several variances are neaded..
oe attached r-Wiib t Ai
Ch1%. Wahl Xey provision asket-.. they be allowed to substitute one
plan for another.
Mr, Parkor Tlxe%i have half' the pits as allowed by the ordinance,
tlle play t to start d-, the west side of Vicksburg,
P,.%In .' &— lclae 1 coXr i 11 71 t?} t AI: ili sLZ liTl,t'C. E 5'i: two meoth-1915
planTheyneedsite approval of the entire phase and preliminary plat
approval. Ia=iium. densityity t a y could get er n wi t1, subsititutzng oneunitfar, another is, 454,
Loom, Nti is Uzmber of proposed accesses to thoroughfares has approval of Village
rng .neer
Cont, Askeil whether the open land. will, still be the same,.
Ch1 The open sand will be handled 'by the homeonwers association,.
14ea,elnlosed ale public hearing was chased at 10:,31 p, n.
t 1.1otion made by Cow ssioner Kre skin sect;und by Comriissionez Keeley, to
approve the prelim:blary plat of `euro DevelopmInt subject to the approva1,
of the Homeowner Covenants by the Village Attorney, It was further
moven, to urge the developer to bring -my changes to the attention of
tim Village staff so that if ani* major changes are made, ?Metro Develop -
merit will have to carte back to the Planning Coimiissiorr, motion passed
all in favor,
Motion Motion made by Cormwi-ssioner Keeley, second by Callmissiorler Neils, to
approve the revised lComunity 11nit De veloprnent sits plan with thelimitof454unitsonthesitekerionpassedallinfavor.
Motion made by CominissioRer Keel }veils, to, m
approve ficial site pion for .phase l: as initialed by Ai, ?arker, dated.
1ay 19, 1971, calling to the attention of the Council, that the i
one ^ navy' street;; with egress on Vicksburg. Motion paned all an favor.
Mo - Motion made by Cozrtmissionex i*Ie ls,se.ond by Com, iissioner Beeley, that
the pl az rlizig Gontitrission recomrne acl to. the Manager that he meet with etre
appropriate staff personnel to assure they ars: fully .aware of the
novelties of this project' relative to Vil ,age enforcement and service
requirements. Motion passed all in .favor.:
Iay 19, 1971
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Di, cuss'on aiid, Action by Coin'ssi.oners
Toti nw i ibl c hearing on petition refJQt.r i&xe_IP nt (Qaality ;Moines Jim-,
Parker) fer pml"i r4. approval for die, Iign ndoah Addit:4_gn in
the vicinity, of 28th, ,avenue North and Vicks'buxg-Lane.
Planmer liex ly.. Variana,;s are needed on subdivision plat. %bud have to maintain
control for fl.exability of plan at Village staff Level
CampX ConcoTnGd about the roadway that goes through thP ar0a , seef o 'fie
set prett)r close to ' garage. doors
Discussion:, Genera) -dismission on parking problem.
Cott, Neils Would. %Ltro be agreeabLa 'to having their otm corztvi u firm install
utilities for inspection by the Village Engineer?
Mr, parker. Ye,,, they would.
Motion: Motion made by Commissioner Krosi.in, second by Commdssioner Nee -ley,
to approve the preliminary plat of Metro Development subject, to the
approval. of the Homeowner :covenants by the Village Attorhey, it I
further moved to urge the developer to 'bring any changes: to the
attention of the Village staffso that if any major chandos are madY,
16-tro Devic,,lopment will have to. come back to the Planning Coimnissioft.
Motion passed all Irl favor
Wt4onc Motion made by Commissioner Keeley, second by Commi,ssione. Neils, to
approve the revised Community Unit Devel.opmerit site. pian itith the
1i="t of 484 units on the site. Motion passed all in favor.
oti.an Motion wade by Commissioner Keeley, secand. by Commissioner Neils, to
approve final site plan .for .phase l ss initialed by Jim paxher, dated
IN# 19, 1971, calling t j the attenta oa of the Council that there i
one tomporaxy street with egress on Vicksburg., Motion passed all in
favor,
Motion Motion made by Commissioner Neils, second by Commissioner Keeley, that
the Planning
Corsi
ssion -r commend to the Manager that he meet with
the appropriate staff personnel to assure they are fully aware of- fthethenoveltiesofthisprojectzrolativetoVillageenforcementand
service requirements. Motion passed all, in favor,
AMEMMENEq
May 10, 1.971
Record o public Itear`g As17
Public 1axt1 Petitionn£ ,Revway ti lders fiat rel' rtzna-v approval and s.
plait _ pproXg J:n t iC t C1 llty of 10t}.1 AVenue ort` anal Scauth Shore
lha e. (Dave bimahn)
Planner rergly. Gave a brief description of the area. (Attached) Stated., th' is a
R-4 district but, double Wmtga,Lows aro aowed -within arl R-4 district
ar!d are permitted as regulated in an R-2. district. .also suggested
that Mr., MormWm mai; lots 4 & 5 1.7,020 square Feet, so both lots will
be buildable.
Yloar ng Closed Public haaring, }qas closed at 10.40 p.m.
ot1on Motion made by Commissioner Kroskin setond by Com ssioner Neils,,
to approve the petition of Keyway Builders subject to the fiy c pnf, nfditionsinPlannerberglylsletterofMay, 19, 1971 (attache)
sub' ectto snaking Lots 4 5 17;020 sgpaxe feet. IN16tion passed. all Y'*1
311 fano 4 s
I
A-ill
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Discussion and Actaon by ormissionexs
5olrsaroiorcoCnctee 'north of 10th Avenue,
and. ;z e block west of 0.)unty Road I .
p.atu rj rz Gave a brief description of the area and site plar,
Mr. Hi no,nth l: Said they don't knof for sure jvhat, will be going irz the building right
now but it Will most likely be warehouse distributors.
fit on> Motion made by Commissioner June, secondbyCommissioner Kroskin., to
approve the site plan subject to the following conditions.-
That the site plan engineering details be approved by
the Village Engineer before a building permit is issued,
this to inctr_de but shall not b limited to 'the recom-
mendations in Ron Rudrud's memo of May 5, 1971w (Attached)'
What t ti 3.ty and drainage easements be providers alopg all
property lines as required by ordinance and as may further
be required by the Village Engineer.
3. "flat sodding or other acceptable treatment be provided by
the developer in the southwest corner of the site plan aA-
jacent; to 10th ,Avenue forth.
4. "ghat parking'spaces numbers 1-4 be eliminated from the
site plain, Y
It was further moved that the parking spats be removed from the propoerty the house
is on so that the ;house may remain and that the parking, observe the
Village ordinances Motion passed all in favor.
r
May 19, 1971
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Discussion and Actin 'by Commtissioners
Retti oar1 plan— approval for Hirsch BrothErs Tnc.. located north of
County Road 6 and one block east of :Highway 101.
Planner Bergly: Cave a brief description of the area:., involved.:_ Stated that the
Petitioner had appeared before the Beard of Zoning Adjustments to
request a variance for lower square footage for one and two bedroom
apartments and, lead, beer turned dolva.. Nis xequest before the Council
was also turned down, Minor adlustmex is would be made to deet the:
required square footage, but the site plan would generally stay the
same,
Motion:: Motion made by Comrdssioner Kxoskin, se:ond by-
Camaii
ssioner June, to
approve the preliminary site plan, subject to increasing the distancebetweenthetwogaragesontheeastandsubjectstotheproblemof
garbage disposal being solved. Itotion passed 4-1 and 1 abst*ension.
Commissioners foils, l roskzn, June and Wahl voting- foxy Commissioner
Roth opposed and Commissioner Keeley abstaining'.