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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 12-02-1970Planning Commission Minutes page 2 December 2, 1+970 was one which they could live with, Planner Bergly stated that the garages are all under the building Arad the open parking is for about 450 spaces. Commissioner Kroskin asked if they knew the ntaber of one and two bedroom talits that there would be., and fir. I7e3eil said that this was not know as yet; Colimissioner Juneasked if there could be an. access read built clear to County Road G. I r IMCCamb: said that he felt that this was very unlikely until the long range plans are developed Commissioner prekker said that he seems to got the Idea that once we would have this done that we may have to petition to have this access closed. M . IIcCombs sial he would like to see something mor,; permanent that this, but at the present time it is not possMbl; . Commissioner Chapman said that he talked with ahief ilawkinson, and he got out a j:tal) and looked; at ti .s and didn't see anything thatwouldbe -a great problem. Nt. McCombs feltthat there would be no problem if they could ;het a signal with a loft turn arrow. Chairman Eg4t:¢ stated ttutt the item before them was the rezoning; and he said it would appear from the committee report. that they are ready for a motion with several things attached to them. fie asked. the Commission if they fetal that they should restrict the 100 feet and even with 100 feet that their only method of construction would be with a slope.. Mfr. McCombs said that the developers plan to work to the west, so this would be the last biailding which would be built. Coxnrnissioner Chapman said that the llighway Department has not drawn, up a plan, for the interchalige in the Village yet, and that is the reason he would be in favor of the 300 feet., planner Bergly said that the iiighiay Department is working on some type of final interchange plans in that area and maybe with- in a year they will have some firm reconmendations for that area. Comissioner June a.s?-,ed the developers if they would lie opposed to having them restrict the building. Chairman lagan: Mated that basically Bance we rezone the area that the Contmi.ssion is adopting this site plan. Commissioner hroskin. asked if all the items were taken care of which were denied in Ilay. Commissioner Chapman: telt with this new plan and the recoimnendations which would be placed 'upon it all the points would be taken care of Planner Bergly brought uta the idea `that a collector street could be dedicated to tie the areas together; arid: Commissioner Prekker said. that he was not in favor of this. Commissioner prekker made a: motion to move recommendation for . MION approval. of :the zoning subject to the stdpuiation of Planner DQ,rgly oil the site plana and the stipulation that the accesses as proposed, by followed. This 'was seconded by Commissioner lune. The last item in Planner Bergly's recommendations was amended to make the recommendations read as follows: Am MS#r`U'S OF A REGULAR METING O 11Ig pal NG Cn"WISSIO PLWIMU1, IMDNESO "A DEMMER 2, 1970 A regular mcetir.;g of the RlaTining Conl'Cjssioj ,as called to order by Chaimmi P-gan at 7:45 p.m. on December 2, 1970 in the Plymouth Public Works Building. PRESE . Chai:rmma llgata Planner Bergly, Cannissioner June, Prekkwr, ChapTiplan, Roth, Kroskin and Coinissa aner' Pollock arrived at about 9:00 p.m, SL \I : Caan-;*Asioners lN4-,+ls and 11afner. The first item of business wa.5 the committee report which 1xaS Imo; Comittee referred to the zoning comrittee for report at the last meeting Report or. of November l8t , The r„or ittee met with, the highway Department United 'fund and the developers. 11-tey fe? t that they had finally reached Rezoninganagreementinplans. Request Commissioner Chapman reported that it was wtq possible to drive through the parkiiTg lots and that the accesses on 111ghvay SS was discussed E great Ileal and the IIighway Depart lient suggested that they get a service drive up to County Road ''.i and the Village initiate some action to have the State put up a signal. It was explained that a signal would take at least a year to put in. Ile said that as far as the site plan goes that every- thing was on it and the developer feels that they would like to got the zoning wi,tl. a preliminary site plan and it was the Comittee's feeling that their site plana are such that they would be acceptable with the application for building permits; CoTtut issioner Frekl+er Said that they have looked at different ways to let the traffic go between County Road ##15 and CotmtyRoad #6 sand they felt that none of these could be clone until Highway #t55 would be upgraded. Planner Bergly said that he has reviewed the site plan with conformance of the ordinance , and it meets all requirements, The plan is very much like what t7aey want to develop and at this time it is not encu because they mast do some study but this is basically the layout that they w ald like to accomplish. He said that they have reserved a triangular piece of Viand parallel to highway 55 for interchange purposes if needed. Commissioner dune asked if they are out far enough and. Planner Bergly said that this is loth' but this is built into the very bottom of a, slope and they could see some problems possibly dc - pending upon the construction that would take place, Co=ussionex Prekker said that the Highway llcpaxtarent said the 100 feet was adequate for normal slope easements_, Commissioner Chapman said ghat they have a site plan which is what they wanted and if something should happen, he felt that this plan Planning Commission Kinutes 1)aga 3 December 2, 1970 Pollowing the provision of Subdivision 6 & 8, Section 10 a.ild further. 1. Specific locations of buildings determined by: topography b. soil boring c, tree locations d. relationship to homes to south 2. Detailed landscaping plan related to above items 3. Coordination of District 5, Highway Depwrtimat plans for improvement of 55 4. The Village passing resolution requesting; the Highway Department to study Highway SS regarding signalization at Comity Road o considering; the impact of this project t,nd M.I.P. "Plymouth Heights," chaiinelization, turn, Innes, stacking space, service droves, etc. S. Ponding areas be provided in areas where appropriate to be shaven on detailed site plan Via., `lliat no building permits be issued for the westerly 300 feet unit it has been conclusively_indicated by the Village and Highway Department tbat an interchange will not be neoded or constructed in the area indicated or the central guide plan as adopted. After 12 months the developer may petition to the Planning Commission and Council icor a waiver of this provision. IMP motion was voted upon. and Com issiorer KrosYln opposed while the rest voted. in ;Favor of the motion, The motion was carried. The next item of business ivas a subdivision va.i.vear for Allen RE: Subdivision S :ensrud. Planner Bergly said that he wanted 2 acres "or building Waiver for a house) and that is what he wanted, to do. The Cor=;,'ssion discussed Allen tiis and Planner Bergly showed how this area of 4.8 acres could be Stensrud laid out to get the ultimate use of this lot, Commissioner Prekkcr moved that we recommend approval of the U)TIO ubdivision waiver per Planner Bergly'5 recommendation and subject to proper location of the home. Commissioner Chapman seconded the motion, The motion was voted upon and Commissioner , Tune opposed the motion while the rest: voted ;n favor of the Lotion, The motion vias carried. The next item of business was a subdivision waiver for "fr. U., Subdivision Cradzen's on property located at 5950 Dunkirk Lane and County Waiver for Road 47. Plannor Bergly said that there were 3 1/2 acres kir. Gradzens involvee and the owner proposed to divide it into 3 lots, This has been to the Council and sent back to the Planning Coaanis.don for recommendation and relationship to future subdivision patterns. Commissioner June asked what the reason rtes fox- dividing it this way, and it was explained because w of the slope. It was stated: that he would be selling mots C and A. Planner Bergly said that they are one acre lots and in the, future they will likely want to divide the lots. Mai.rman Egan said that this subdivision would not be grawced unless there was a way to make these half acre lots, Planning Comnisi.on 'Minutes Page 4 December Z, 1970 Commissioner Pollock made a motion moving that the Village Planner VON relay to the applicant to resubmit a proposed prelim"nary plat at a scale sufficient (V -- 11) to determine if the lot it division is feeszbl.e« 11xis should corse bark to the Planning Commission before it goes onto the Council- 1110 motion was seconded by Commissioner Chapman. .x.11 were in favor of the motion. The motion was carried., Tho next item of business was to study tAe ordinance relative RE., Study to Single family residential garages. It was e ?lamed that Ordix=ce some people Were opposed because they feel that this wasn't Regardingcompatiblefortheresidentailarea, Commissioner June Single gamily felt that they should look into this glove. Ile said that ReS• Garages they would have to recommend that the building code would be changed. Comissi.oner Pollock stated that no conditional use permit could be used for this type of request, and that the only way he felt that this }could be controlled would be with a, variance to come before the Planning Commission, Ile also suggested that they could: bring it funder some type. of conditional use procedure for a peri Planning Corm issioft minutes Page I December 7, 1976 i Commissioner Roth asked about the 2 acres maximum. :Ft was stated that there is distinction betweenquitea the retail neighboa.4aad store and a shopping center, Commissioner Pollock said that at different times developers harm Wanted small shopping centers but they did not permit them in a B-3 or B-4 because these districts allow too many other undesirable uses, planner Bergly suggested haat they have a conditional: use to allow small convenience center of less than 5 acres in the 13--2 and 13--3 districts. C.omnxissioner Pollock made a motion to move_ that we ask the ,„ .. MTION Village attorney to draft an amendment to the zoning ordinance allowing as condi.ti.onal uses in the B-3 zoning off -sale liquor stores and convenience food stores being less than 2,500 square feet in floor area. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Prqkker. Six voted an favor of the motion 1'Cl'Pt,r Commissioner dune stat out of the discussion) Con nissioner Prekke;M moved that the public hearing on this ordinance should be held at the January 6th meeting, seconded by Commissioner Pollock. AIII in favor of the motion Commissioner Polloc moved to direct the Planner to suggest some working to ame;id the B-2 shopping center business district to allow ratail facilities on less t`1an 5 acres as a conditional, use and furthermore, that criteria be suggested for+king these determinations when those situations arise. 1jxe are going to have to have some criteria or guide lines as to w11en the less th4m 5 acres afire suitable because everyone will be coming in and asking for the less than S acres. Ne will Have to stick with !the idea of grouping together the; facilities as :much as possible but the convenience food and liquor stale is aux exception and there should be some criteria and guide lines as to when acid where the less than 5 acro develo rnent is ahlla,ved, "Iiae motion was seconded by Commissioner Prekker and carried by an all in favor vote. omnhissioner Pollock suggested at future meeting that we read RE: Planning Goalthevarioussectioq,-. of previously published Planning rep its and Principle. regarding princil> gals and policies and conte to this meeting prep rcd k;cuss each section, In order to do this h,e must take one meeting to discuss only ilha.s. Plahuher Bergl,y said t eat t o council has approved their planning firm to go ahoad with planning studies for remaining areas of the Villago as soon as topography maps are delivered, plans to be completed 90 days from receipt of topography amps C:onnissioner Pollock moved that the meeting be adjourned and ADJOMV 1 Ml Commissioner Prei ke•r seconded the motion. `Ilia meeting was adjourned at 11:00 p.m: