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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes 08-19-1970MINUTE$ OF A RE'tsi`LA MEETING OF 37n, PLYING COMMISSION PLYMOUTH,, MINNESOTA XJGVST 19, 1970 I A regular t4eeting of the Planning Commission was called to order by Atting Chairman Pollock at 7:40 p.m. on August 19, 1970 in the Plymouth Public: Works; Building. Present" Acting Charman Pollock, Commissioners Neils, Prekker Chapman, Planner Bergly and. Engimeer Uagen, Absent. Chairman Egan, Commissioners June, Roth, Kroskin: and lla fn,r . The meeting began, and Acting Chairman. Pollock wished to make known to the Council, that any action that gas taken at this meeting was takerk without fi quorum.. She meeting of 1;ugust Sth was canceled because of the Lack of members present. The first item of business was a request for a conOttonal use RE Conditional permit of Mr« Lyle Haley is operate as an auto jobber with Use Permit of Lyle machine shop and engine rebuilding facilities in an area zoned Hale;, B-3 located .at 351.5 .Worth Kilmer Lane. Planner Bergly intro- duced the subject to the Commission and he reported that this area was south. of 36th Avenue and west of County Road #18, He explained that sir. Maley 'is now operating a shop in an area zoned 3-5. H s kbop is loo ted in the southwest corner of the section. Mr,. Haley expla;ned that the reason he is requesting this permit is because his business has expanded and he must move and find. larger quarters. Planner Bergly explained that he had talked to the attorney and 'he explained to him that this was z use that couid be in a B_3 zona.. Ht vis also stated that fir, Haley's business was more: a minor repair business.. Commissioner Neils: asked if Mr. Haley's business would be similar to M & I Auto Parts in Goldan Valley. Mr. Haley stated that it would be very similar. Acting Chairman. Pollock asked if the requested site would be big enough for him in the coming years, for if he wished to approve the request he would like the building to be large enough for five years or more. He said if the request was a ;long. --terra proposal that the, consideration; can be set in mind. It vas explained that the building sits on the south end of the lot,. Acting Chairman Pollock asked Air. Haley if he anticipated any outside stor;ge in this area and Mr4 Ilsley answered th ,a question. as no and he explained that lie wants to keep the appearance of the site clean and neat, Acting Chairman Pollock asked if anyori else wished to speak in favor or against the proposal. fir. Haley then told the Commission that other Villages consider tj2,J4 In the same category as a service station and tbis is classified as. commercial. Commiseionec Neils then i xpressea t-&at. even though the Commission doesn't have a site plgti Lig:b would it be appropriate to sett forth some conditions in respect to parking, landscaping, cle&aup and. Planning Commission Minutos Page 2August 19, " 70 ett. as conditions of this permit. Acting Chairman` Pollock. stated that if the Confit ss.ion wished that they could require that the area be bl,acktopped and curbed,. Pjant cc r BerglY stated that this area was of con:iern to the Commission. Commissiosaer Nee l,s asked if it would be -appropriate to set a condition of site improvement to conformance with the ordinance to be set fo-:rh by the Planner. Engineer Hagen stated that the parking should c6aform to the setback$ CommissionerNeils made a motion recommending approval of the MOTION requested conditiona use permit saying that the parking should be in accordance with the zoning ordinance requirements and no parking shotild "be allowed at the setback area 'which was seconded by Cor issl6ner Prekker. Commissioner Neils felt that some time limit should be givenr Commissioner Neils amended his motion to include a time limit: of one year to complete these site requirements, The motion was moved and seconded to the above stated requirements,. All were; is favor of the motion. The next item of business was a request for a conditional use U Conditional Use permit of Mr* David Benner to operate a body shop in aL B-3 Permit for David zona located at 3510 Kilmer Lane. Acting Chairman Pollock Benner said that he had talked with the. Village attorney and he said that u body shop cannot be constxewed in this district. lie suggested that it should be xeturned to the Village Zoning Administrator and it would then be his decision as to what he would do. He said that the request is specifically list- ed in the B-4 and therefore there is no question of intent, aw to where this should go. Commissioner Prekker asked how long this business has been going on and Mr. Benner stated about, 2 months Planner Bergly explaiaaed ,that the street was once part of an; up -grading of County Road 18. Acting Chairman Pollack said that they are looking for a motion to deny the request tbLat it is improper for -the area. Acting Chai'rmau ?olloak explained that it was dome by permit and suggested. it 'could be ret:irned. to the zoning administrator and it will be 1ii.,s duty to either refuse or accept this application and he also told fix. Benner that if he wants he can appeal, this and take it to ,the Board of Zoning Adjustvnent or he can, try ;to rezone the property to B-4, which is a per- witted zona..• , for this. Commissioner 'Aeils moved that the request be sent back to the MOTION administrator as in Invalid request according to the ordinance and, Commissioner Chapman seconded the motion, An all in favor vote` carried the motion The next item of business was, a request for a conditional use KE Conditional Use permit needed for site plan approvalof fir. Harold Posnick for Permit for Site flan permission to use a plastic pool cover to cover swim pool at Approval: of Harold' 3636 LAncaster Lane during the cold weather months. Mr. Posni.ck Posnick said that be had already had the cover on the pool last winter without a permit, but if he needed a permit he was willing to get one, Bngineer'Hagen explained that the cover is quite sate, because if it rips it rips only in small squares and also it does l ~amts Commission Minutes page 3 August 19, 1:970 not burn. The only question the. Commission had was °the safety of the cover, Xr, Posnick explained that the cover was just temporary and was put away during the summer months., Mr. Posnick explained that the cover has comethrough 'Winds of 40- 45 miles per hour. planner Bergly asked as to: how far into the winter was the pool usable;, and Mr. Posnick aatl from. about Pebruary, on. The Commission asked Mr. Posnlc. about installing an alarms system so that people would have tint,, •t.) get; out of the pool it, case of an emergency. He said a sy.4t-.m c uld be Installed, Acting Chairman Pollock asked if there was anyoho. else who vi.shes to speak in favor or against this request. Commissioner hrekker moved approval of this req_,est and Com- MOTION missioner Neils seconded the motion. The motion was carried by an, all in favor vote, The next item of business was a site plan approval for .Paul.is RE Site -Plan Approval Woodcraft expansion, located between Fernbrook Zane and Inter for Paul's Woodcraft state X494 and south of Hi$hway< 55. Planner Bergly- explained' that a request was before the Commission a fcw years ago and at that time we received a site plan and approved it:. He said It was approved and built and after looking at the site itwas not developed the same as the site plan which was approved. He said that the setback i.s not the same and also not all the parking spaces are being used. Planner Bergly made recommendat,+ots to the plan which are as follows: 1. Allow only 3 stalls in the 50 foot iron yard setback.. 2. Allow 3; morer stalls west of the 35 shown along the south on the submitted plan, such that they won't be in the setback area. 3. Remove the blacktop, replace with: sod and properly landscape .the setback area just recently blacktopped for parking. 4. Allow parking gest of the Ist and 3rd additions to replace those lost in I" above. 5. Remove the parking stalls along the east property line in setback area, 6. Caner to submit revised plans including landscaping for approval. by Planning Consultant Bergly, lair. Zeltins, the President, explained to the Commissionthat over, the, Fourth of duly when he was away, they blacktopped the entire area, and now he wants` to wait until l+ernbrook is finished before they Cake the blacktop off and replace it with sad. Commissioner Prekker asked what the 'Lot coverage is, and it wigs answered to be about 42.7%. Commissioner Neils asked for the approximate completion schedule of Fernbrook and in.gitmer Hagen stated that it should be blacktopped by next spring. Act1mg Chairman; Pollock asked if there would be any objection to raovlag the three parking spaces in the setback area and leaving that area, into a green area. Mr. Zeltins said that they have enough parking and they ,could do that. Engineer Hagen suggested they give Mr. Zeltins a time limit as to when the sodding should be finished. Planning Commission Minutes Page 4 Auglzst 1.9, 1970 Commissioner Neils moved approval subject to Planner Bergly's re- MOTION coumlendations for changes plus the removal of all parking stalls in the setback in the front of the office project vith an allowance of one years; time for completion of site plan improvements, which was seconded by; Commissioner Chapman. Couir nissioner Neils then amended the motion to relocated the custozor parking from its present location to the front of the, first addition, which was again seconded by Commissioner Chapman. Commissioner Chapman questioned, item number bix of the re- commendations. Cozmnissionea. Pi ekker said that the revised plans should be given to Planner ltergly so that he can check can them.. Planner Bergly stated that the thing they are in,- terested in if they meet the ordinance. The motion was, carried by an all in favor vote. The neat item of businesswasthe request for a conditional use. RE; Conditional. Use permit for the constructiozx of a wavehous:e and transfer s.tatibn Permit for 11 rning with offi^e facilities to be utilized by Morning Fresh Dsiry,, Fresh Dairy, by Inc. The building wil he used for the transfer of dairy, pro-- Mr. Harrington ducts from.a, large over the road truck to smaller delivery trucks for distribution;. lie building will also include coolers for the storage.: of dairy products. No milk or dairy processing will take place on the site. Mr. Harrington appeared and presented his proposal stating that he, intended to construct a prosect on lots 26,, 27, and 28 of Plymouth Gardens rather than on parts of lots as originally proposed. The original proposal was denied by the staff be- cause it entailed a division of lots which would l.andl,ock an; existing. building located 'on, 'Lot 25. Planning Commission members objected also to the proposed location of the building with parking and loading facilities in the setback area, al.oncr 10th Avenue. Mr. Rarrington agreed to the removal of parking and loading ,areas on the north and east sides of the building in the setback areas and further afire d to increase the building setback so th*t the 50 foot requirements from 10th Avenue would be met. He also agreed to: xe.tvvi,ng the: loading door which is called for on the north silo of the warehouse poxtiotr- of the building,and the installation of a sidewalk to run from the parking lot west of the building to the kront door of the office structure, Acting Chairman; Pollock s:.ated that, he would like to sec the business setting; a good example along County Road 1.8 by advocatin& curbing on the: proposed parkin; lots. Commissioner Neils,was concerned about the curb driveway app;:oach.; He. said he would like to see the driveway curbed to the :setback line from the County Road 18 frontage road. Commissioner Neils recommended approval of the Site Flan subject MOTION to the petitioner provideing a revised set of drawings for review by ttze Village Consultant John Bergly, 1. Site flans would include the removal of the parking and loading ;area on the north side of the building in the 5Q foot setback area.: 2. The removal of the driveway access from County Road 18 Planning Commission, Xinutes Page 5 August 19,. 1970 frontage road at the northeasterly corner of the Site 3. The planting of sod in the setback area where the proposed driveway and parking areas were indicated on. the north side of the building, 4. The increase of the setback. along 10th Avenue from the property bine to the building. to 50 feet. S. The removal of the large loading door on the north side of the warehouse, 6, The increasing of the parking and loading areas on'the south and west sides of the building in conformance with the zoning ordinance to provide adequate parking and loading a ace w - The motion =teas seconded by Commissioner Prekker'. The motion was carried by an all in favor vote.. Commissioner Prekker then asked if anything was heard from the RE;: MINNEAPOLIS Aii.nneapolis &. Western Railroad. Engineer Hagen 9 aid he met & 14ESTERN RAILROAD with, Bonestroo and, found that a public 4earing was held on the abandoning of the. railroad. They hiid asked for abandonment west of Vicksburg Lane, tithing has been resolved on the matter to date. Next, ;the Commission set a date for the Section 1.2 Public Hearing. RE, Date Set for A new notice is to be. placed In: the paper. Commissioner Prekker Section: 12 Study made e motion to hold the %oaring on September 164, which was aeconded by Commissioner Neils„" An all in favor vote carried the motion. Engineer Hagen then said, that the thoroughfare plan has been: RE Thoroughfare; complete except for a couple of changes made on it. He said Plan that further commends to the Cotfi;i,l should reach them by September 14, for at that time they will have a schedule -as, to how the public hearings should be held. Planner Bergly sug- gested they hold off the public hearing until the Guide plan is completed, Engineer Hagen stated if they keep waiting they Will lose 5 mile of Municipal Slate Aid allotment from the 'State. The minutes of July 15th will, be approved at the: next meeting of the Planning Commission. htoeti.ng adjourned at 9:40 p.m. 1'S7IR bd