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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPark and Recreation Advisory Commission Minutes 02-07-1980x MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLYMOUTH PARKS AND RECREATION AD Ism.y COWISSION, February 7, 198 The regular meeting of the Plymouth Park and Recreation Advisory Commission was called to order by Vice Chairperson Threinen at 7:30 pm. on February 7, 1960 in the City Council Co.unc.il chambers. MEMBERS; Brass, Chesebrough,, Mullan, Threinen and Edwards MEMBERS ABSENT: Terry, ) to OTHERS PRESENT'. Jane Thornton, Recreation Specialist., Fred Moore, City Engineer/ Director of Pohlic Works, Blair Tremere, Director of Community Development, Frank Boyles, Administrative Assistant. The minutes of the: regular meeting of January_P 1980.were moved by Commissioner Mal lzn and secored by noting that the word "passed" in paragraph of the second page a c tinged horized. Minutes were approved. MINUTES R an Industrial Park/Trail Discussion fr. Al Shackman representing Ryan Construction Company presented information regarding the development of an industrial zoned 55 acre parcel and, discussed the hardship which the installation of a trail on this property would present. His major concerns were the, fact that trail improvements contomplat6,y the City would require. 1.) substantial additional grading; 2) disruption of landscaping already in place in the United Hardware parcel; 3) would affect holding ponds and create problems with obtaining Department of Natural Resources approval; 41 create security and marketability problems because the trails would allow public, access to the rear of industrial properties. Vice Chairperson Threinen suggested that the; trial originally scheduled for Nathan Lane north to the railroad tracks and then westerly south of the tracks across the parcel might be relocated to the 49th Avenue side and then up the westerly border of the parcel. Mr. Shackman indicated that this could be a viable consideration. Community Development director Tremere indicated that along the west side of the parcel, a 30-50 foot easement would be required and. wetlands in this area could entail a problem in developing the trail. Commissioner Mullan asked about the possibility of developing the trial up 'Nathan Lane to 51st Avenue cul-de-sac and then across the parcel westerly to, the west property litre and then north to the railroad tracks.: Community Development Director Tremere noted teat the Council requires an easement for roadway purposes in en east-west direction along Slst Avenue throughout the property. We Shackman questioned; the reasons why a trail along the west side of the property would have to be set in so far toward the anticipated huildim-a. Public Works Director Moore responded that the wetlands in this area would probably require that the grail meander unless the Department of Natural Resources would issue permits for paritial fill of this area. Rpouth Park and Recreation Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes February 7* 196 Page Comanunity Development Director Tremere clarified the definition of easement: and the fact that such easements do not have impact upon setbacks in commercial and industrial plats. Mr,, Shackman indicated the easements Mould have a negative impact on the site because of the spur tracks to be located throughout the site. Marketability, dangers in crossing the railroad tracks, including; the associated liability, and the effect on the united Hardware parcel were also among his concerns. Commissioner Chesebrough asked whether Mr. Shackma.n had a recommendation which he would endorse. Mr. Shackman suggested that the trail could he located on 49th Avenue and then move northerly farther, west of their parcel. Acting, Chairperson Threinen stated that in previous cases, it has clearly been established that variances to the trail plan have not occurred and that developers have been responsible for familiarizing themselves with the City's guide plans, particularly since they have been used by the City for some five years. Mr. Chuck Parsons, attorney for united Hardware, commented that his first had satisfied' all known City requirements and that the imposition of a trail now would cause problems and additional costs because of the disruption of inplace landscaping. Mr. Parsons commented that the trail along 49th Avenue perhaps would work out best since an: 80 ft• easement is required for this street. Community Development Director Tremere emphasized that the graphics shown by United Hardware and Ryan Construction assume construction. at the property line and, therefore, suggest. cuts in, landscapingw that likely would not be the case. He suggested that a meandering trail could minimize damange to existing; landscaping. A motion was made by Commissioner Mullan and seconded by Commissioner Brass that two alternatives be explored, by the staff in cooperation with the developers. including 1) developing the trail northerly along Nathan Lane to 51st Avenue and then westerly to the west border and then northerly to the railroad tracks; 2) that the trail he established oto the north boundary of 49th Avenue: easement and thence westerly to thewest side of the property and then northerly to the tracks.; Motion carried: 5 - 0 Staff was directed' to work with the developer to establish a reasonable routing for the trail through this parcel so impact upon wetlands would be minimized, for final approval. Approval of Priorities for Participation in Plymouth Athletic Programs Jane Thorston, Recreation Specialist, introduced a memorandum stating five priorities which the staff would use in determining which teams participated in Plymouth athletic programs. The motion was made by Barbara Edwards and seconded by John Mullan to approve the priorities with the following amendments< 1) Priority two to read: Those teams made up of at least 50% Plymouth residents and the rest full-time employees. 2) Priority number, three to read: Those teams madeup of one half Plymouth residents and' residents of bordering communities which do not offer that particular league. 3) Old priorities number four and six deleted and remaining priorities renumbered. Motion carried; 5 0 A motion was made by Commissioner Edwards, seconded by Commissioner Mullan to affirm the policy of charging teagnis a holding fee which is to he forfeited iii the team misrepresents team composition or violates any other Plymouth policy or ordinance relating to park f cil ities Plymouth. Park and Recreation. Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes February 7, 1980 Page Community Playfield Consultant Selection, Process, Vice Chairperson Threinen reviewed the staff memorandum suggesting a consultant selection process for the anticipated Community Playfield project. Commissioners 1lhreioen Brass and Mullen were asked to serve on a sub -committee which would ultimately make a recommendation for selection to City Council by February 25. Community PI ayfi el d fact Sheet Mr. _Len Thiede of the Plymouth Athletic Association des; ribed the fact sheet to the 'Park: and Recreation Advisory Commission which will be used as a door to door drop sheet" for providing Plymouth residents with information about the upcoming special bond election. He indicated that Association representatives will be getting together to look at their schedules and territories for presenting information on this topic. The Park and Recreation Advisory Commission reviewed the contents of the fact sheet including the facilities proposed for development in each: park.. Mr. Thiede suggested that it would be valuable to have City representatives,, including; Councilmembers, Commissioners and staff, present at homeowners association meetings when requested to provide background detail on this issue, The Park and Recreation Advisory Commission agreed that it: would be appropriate: for City representatives to act as resources when requested Community Playfield Reference: Guide The: Park and Recreation Advisory Commission reviewed the contents of the final draft of the community playfield reference guide as amended.. The reference guide was designed to provide staff members, commissioners, and, Councilmembers with basic reference information about the Plymouth park system and related topics i'n the event they are requested to provide information on the bond issue. The Commission ad.opted the reference, guide and recommended that it be submitted to the City Council at their February 25 meeting for final approval avid implementation. Meeting wa.s adjourned at. 10;30 p.m.