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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
PLYMOUTH PARKS AND RECREATION AD Ism.y COWISSION,
February 7, 198
The regular meeting of the Plymouth Park and Recreation Advisory Commission was called
to order by Vice Chairperson Threinen at 7:30 pm. on February 7, 1960 in the City
Council Co.unc.il chambers.
MEMBERS; Brass, Chesebrough,, Mullan, Threinen and Edwards
MEMBERS ABSENT: Terry, ) to
OTHERS PRESENT'. Jane Thornton, Recreation Specialist., Fred Moore, City Engineer/
Director of Pohlic Works, Blair Tremere, Director of Community Development, Frank
Boyles, Administrative Assistant.
The minutes of the: regular meeting of January_P 1980.were moved by Commissioner Mal lzn
and secored by noting that the word "passed" in paragraph
of the second page a c tinged horized. Minutes were approved. MINUTES
R an Industrial Park/Trail Discussion
fr. Al Shackman representing Ryan Construction Company presented information regarding
the development of an industrial zoned 55 acre parcel and, discussed the hardship which
the installation of a trail on this property would present. His major concerns were
the, fact that trail improvements contomplat6,y the City would require. 1.) substantial
additional grading; 2) disruption of landscaping already in place in the United Hardware
parcel; 3) would affect holding ponds and create problems with obtaining Department
of Natural Resources approval; 41 create security and marketability problems because
the trails would allow public, access to the rear of industrial properties.
Vice Chairperson Threinen suggested that the; trial originally scheduled for Nathan
Lane north to the railroad tracks and then westerly south of the tracks across the
parcel might be relocated to the 49th Avenue side and then up the westerly border of
the parcel. Mr. Shackman indicated that this could be a viable consideration.
Community Development director Tremere indicated that along the west side of the
parcel, a 30-50 foot easement would be required and. wetlands in this area could
entail a problem in developing the trail.
Commissioner Mullan asked about the possibility of developing the trial up 'Nathan
Lane to 51st Avenue cul-de-sac and then across the parcel westerly to, the west property
litre and then north to the railroad tracks.: Community Development Director Tremere
noted teat the Council requires an easement for roadway purposes in en east-west
direction along Slst Avenue throughout the property.
We Shackman questioned; the reasons why a trail along the west side of the property
would have to be set in so far toward the anticipated huildim-a. Public Works Director
Moore responded that the wetlands in this area would probably require that the grail
meander unless the Department of Natural Resources would issue permits for paritial fill
of this area.
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Comanunity Development Director Tremere clarified the definition of easement: and the
fact that such easements do not have impact upon setbacks in commercial and industrial
plats. Mr,, Shackman indicated the easements Mould have a negative impact on the
site because of the spur tracks to be located throughout the site. Marketability,
dangers in crossing the railroad tracks, including; the associated liability, and the
effect on the united Hardware parcel were also among his concerns.
Commissioner Chesebrough asked whether Mr. Shackma.n had a recommendation which he
would endorse. Mr. Shackman suggested that the trail could he located on 49th
Avenue and then move northerly farther, west of their parcel. Acting, Chairperson
Threinen stated that in previous cases, it has clearly been established that variances
to the trail plan have not occurred and that developers have been responsible for
familiarizing themselves with the City's guide plans, particularly since they have
been used by the City for some five years.
Mr. Chuck Parsons, attorney for united Hardware, commented that his first had satisfied'
all known City requirements and that the imposition of a trail now would cause problems
and additional costs because of the disruption of inplace landscaping. Mr. Parsons
commented that the trail along 49th Avenue perhaps would work out best since an: 80 ft•
easement is required for this street. Community Development Director Tremere emphasized
that the graphics shown by United Hardware and Ryan Construction assume construction.
at the property line and, therefore, suggest. cuts in, landscapingw that likely would not
be the case. He suggested that a meandering trail could minimize damange to existing;
landscaping.
A motion was made by Commissioner Mullan and seconded by Commissioner Brass that two
alternatives be explored, by the staff in cooperation with the developers. including
1) developing the trail northerly along Nathan Lane to 51st Avenue and then westerly
to the west border and then northerly to the railroad tracks; 2) that the trail he
established oto the north boundary of 49th Avenue: easement and thence westerly to
thewest side of the property and then northerly to the tracks.;
Motion carried: 5 - 0
Staff was directed' to work with the developer to establish a reasonable routing for
the trail through this parcel so impact upon wetlands would be minimized, for final
approval.
Approval of Priorities for Participation in Plymouth Athletic Programs
Jane Thorston, Recreation Specialist, introduced a memorandum stating five priorities
which the staff would use in determining which teams participated in Plymouth athletic
programs. The motion was made by Barbara Edwards and seconded by John Mullan to
approve the priorities with the following amendments<
1) Priority two to read: Those teams made up of at least 50% Plymouth residents and
the rest full-time employees.
2) Priority number, three to read: Those teams madeup of one half Plymouth residents
and' residents of bordering communities which do not offer that particular league.
3) Old priorities number four and six deleted and remaining priorities renumbered.
Motion carried; 5 0
A motion was made by Commissioner Edwards, seconded by Commissioner Mullan to affirm
the policy of charging teagnis a holding fee which is to he forfeited iii the team
misrepresents team composition or violates any other Plymouth policy or ordinance
relating to park f cil ities
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Community Playfield Consultant Selection, Process,
Vice Chairperson Threinen reviewed the staff memorandum suggesting a consultant
selection process for the anticipated Community Playfield project. Commissioners
1lhreioen Brass and Mullen were asked to serve on a sub -committee which would
ultimately make a recommendation for selection to City Council by February 25.
Community PI ayfi el d fact Sheet
Mr. _Len Thiede of the Plymouth Athletic Association des; ribed the fact sheet to
the 'Park: and Recreation Advisory Commission which will be used as a door to door
drop sheet" for providing Plymouth residents with information about the upcoming
special bond election. He indicated that Association representatives will be
getting together to look at their schedules and territories for presenting information
on this topic. The Park and Recreation Advisory Commission reviewed the contents
of the fact sheet including the facilities proposed for development in each: park..
Mr. Thiede suggested that it would be valuable to have City representatives,, including;
Councilmembers, Commissioners and staff, present at homeowners association meetings
when requested to provide background detail on this issue, The Park and Recreation
Advisory Commission agreed that it: would be appropriate: for City representatives to
act as resources when requested
Community Playfield Reference: Guide
The: Park and Recreation Advisory Commission reviewed the contents of the final draft
of the community playfield reference guide as amended.. The reference guide was
designed to provide staff members, commissioners, and, Councilmembers with basic
reference information about the Plymouth park system and related topics i'n the event
they are requested to provide information on the bond issue. The Commission ad.opted
the reference, guide and recommended that it be submitted to the City Council at
their February 25 meeting for final approval avid implementation.
Meeting wa.s adjourned at. 10;30 p.m.