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HomeMy WebLinkAboutPark and Recreation Advisory Commission Minutes 11-04-1982Minutes of the Plymouth Park and Recreation Advisory Commission November Meeting November 4, 1982, 7:30 p.m. Page 30 Present: Chairman Rice, Commissioners ChesebroughEdwards, Threinen, Mullan and Berg; Planning Commissioner Magnus; staff members Blank and Helgeson; John Uban of Howard Dahlgren & Associates and Neil Polstein, attorney for Charles Belgarde Absent: Commissioner Dvorak 1. CALL TO 'ORDER ChWman. Rice called the November meeting of the Plymouth Park and Recreation Advisory Commission to order at 7:39 p.m. on November 4 in the Plymouth City Center Council Chambers. 2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Commissioner'Chesebrough moved and Commissioner Berg seconded a motion to approve the October minutes. The motion carried with all ayes. 3. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS a, Athletic Associations. None were present at this meeting b. Mary Patterson and Rick Busch. Neither one was present at this meeting, but Director Blank asked which commissioners would volunteer to be on Mary's programming committee. Commissioners Threi_nen and Edwards volunteered. c. Others. Their presentations will be covered later in the minutes. 4. REPORT ON PAST COUNCIL ACTION Director Blank reported that at their October 18 meeting, the Council adopted the name change of Plymouth Creek Playfield, formerly known as Fernbrook, and at their October 25 meeting, endorsed PRAC's recommendation to encourage the continued funding of the LCMR grants program. 5. UNFINISHED BUSINESS c_. Plymouth Creek Estates-Plyinouth Creek City Park. Director Blank showed several maps of Plymouth Creek Estates to the commissioners and discussed the petitioner's proposal to have the land reguided. Director Blank reviewed his memo dated November 4 stating that this parcel is approximately 78 acres in size and that at one time, approximately 1971, it was proposed to be reguided and that 40 acres were to be deeded to the City for park purposes_. For a variety of reasons, the rezoning was never done, nor was any property ever deeded to the City. New development plans have now been prepared and proposed to the City, again asking for reguiding. Director Blank is recommending that reguiding of the land zoned public/ semi' -public not be done at this time because of the affect it would have on the proposed Plymouth Creek City Park. He is also recommending that the developer work with the City and PRAC on laying out the exact size and shape of the park, and then present new concept plans reguiding that land not incorporated in the park Park dedication fees should be reviewed and based on the existing densities at fox Meadows: I, as well as densities proposed when the nets concept plan is submitted. Any additional land needed after park dedication ordinances have been met should be purchased from the developer. PRAC Minutes of November 4, 1982 Page 31 John Uban of Howard Dahlgren & Associates stated to PRAC that the land- owner/petitioner, Charles Belgarde, is very willing to negotiate with the City regarding his land, but that he is anxious to move ahead with his proposal as soon as possible. Mr. Belgarde'.3 attorney, Neil Polstein, reiterated the need to move as quickly as possible because of the expense to Mr. Belgarde to continue holding this land Director Blank, in response to a question from Commissioner Berg regarding when the City wanted to develop this park, stated that money was available in the CIP to begin developing the neighborhood:Fortion of the park in 1983. He emphasized that this park is the most important one in the Comprehensive Park System Plan and that it is number one in priority in his opinion in terms of any action being taken. He further stated that between now and December 2, staff could work with Mr. Uban and Mr. Belgarde in developing a new concept plan. COMMISSIONER CHESEBROUGK MOVED AND COMMISSIONER BERG SECONDED A MOTION TO SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AS OUTLINED IN DIRECTOR BLANK'S MEMO' DATED NOVEMBER 4, 1982, AND TO REPORT BACK C`1 DECEMBER 2 ANY NEW CONCEPT PLANS ALONG WITH PROPOSED FINANCING OF THIS PROJECT. The motion carried with all ayes, a., Negotiations with St. Mary's Church -Update. Director Blank met with the board on October 19 and presented the City's proposal. They are in the process of a large fund-raising effort at this time, so no decisions will be made on this subject for several weeks. b. 1983 LAWCON/LCMR Grant Applicatioigz pdate. No problems have been reported with our proposal; the LCMR committee should be addressing it in December. d. 1982`83 Winter Ice Rink Locations. Director Blank indicated that we have received a request to rna tinamYakviewPondthisyear. He also stated that he and Mark Peterson have agreed to put Timber Shores back on the list of rinks to maintain, so we have a total of 34 shuts of ice, which is the same as last year. Mark Peterson had prepared a cost sheet outlining the expenses involved in maintaining our rinks, which Director Blank seared with the Commission. COMMISSIONER THREINEN MOVED AND COMMISSIONER CHESEBROUGH SECONDED A MOTION TO ENDORSE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO MAINTAIN 34 SHEETS OF ICE AND TO USE THIS YEAR AS A STUDY PERIOD OF 'THE: 34 RINKS WE ARE CURRENTLY MAINTAINING IN ORDER TO 'MAKE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE FUTURE. The motion carried with all ayes. e. General Discussion on Future Direction of PRAC. It was decided that a special meeting should be held to discuss this item. January 20th was chosen as a ''sandwich" meeting. Director Blank and Chairman Rice will get together and come up with an agenda. f. Medicine Lake Tisk Force -Update. Director Blank has begun receiving letters from different organizations naming their representatives who will serve on this task force. The first meeting will probably take place in December. g. Joint Meeting with Athletic Associations. We have not received any feedback. from: the associations on the letter we sent inviting them PRAC Minutes of November 4, 1982 Page 32 to attend the PRAC meeting on December 2. We will contact them all by phone prior to the meeting to encourage their attendance and/or comments.. The meeting will be a "round -gable discussion in the Council conference room beginning at 7:00 p.m. h. Review Draft of Cit Goals and Objectives. Director Blank handed out copies o the drat he and Blair Tremere prepared. The Commission reviewed the draft and made suggestions for deletions, revisions and additions. 6, NEW BUSrNESS a. New Plats. None. 7. COMMISSION PRESENTATION. The MRPA annual conference is scheduled for November 17, 18 and 19. Any commissioner wishing to attend should inform staff and reser,r,ati'ons will be made for you. 8. STAFF COMMUNICATION Director Blank shared with the Commissit)n some of his thoughts on the National Recreation and Park Association Conference he attended in Kentucky during the latter part of October. There were many excellent speakers on very timely topics. One such topic had to do with youth athletics, and Director Blank ordered a copy of that speech which he will share with any interested commissioners.. The next meeting is scheduled for December 2, to which youth athletic associations have been invited; it will begin at 7:00 p.m. with a round -table discussion in the council conference room. Members of the Mayor's Task Force will be invited to attend this meeting. 9. ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 9:51 p.m. Minutes of the Plymouth Park, and Recreation Advisory Commission `December Meeting December 2, 1982, 8:40 p.m. Page 33 Present; Commissioners Chesebrough, Edwards, Mullan, Dvorak and Berg; staff members Blank, Busch,, Nelgeson and Peterson; Planning Commissioner Magnus; Council member Moen Absent:: Chairman Rice, Commissioner Threinen 1. CALL TO ORDER Commissioner Edwards called the meeting to order at 8;40 p.m. in the Plymouth City Center Council Conference Room. 2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES The minutes of the November meeting were approved as read with the following correction by Commissioner Chesebrough the word "affect" in Item 5. c. should have been "effect." 3. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS a. Athletic Association Representatives. Immediately preceding this meeting two assofatfons were represented and were present to discuss the Mayor's Task Force on Park and Recreation Program Financing. Attending were Pepper Asche, 284 Girls Baseball/Softball; Tom Witchger, Wayzata Youth Hockey; and Gary Gibbons, Wayzata. Youth Hockey. b. Rick Busch. Rick handed out copies of, -a book titled, "Parents, Coaches, Kids. 5 -Youth Sports." He asked the commissioners to study it carefully because he would like their endorsement of it at the January meeting. c. Others. None. 4. REPORT ON PAST COUNCIL ACTION Director Blank had nothing to report on this item. 5. UNFINISHED BUSINESS a. St. Mary's Update. There were no new developments on tris issue. b. LAWCON Update. Director Blank indicated that our grant may be in trouble 5ecause of the state's financial situation at this time. c, Plymouth Creek Estates Update. Director Blank reported that several meetings have been heid between staff and Mr. Belgarde's representatives and that the two groups are coming closer to reaching an agreement on the size and shape of the area proposed for Plymouth Creek City Park. 6. NEW BUSINESS a. Review 1982 Annual Re ort Format. It is staff's goal to have the 1982 Annual Report ready for presentation to the Council by March, 1983. Commissioners with comments should send them to Eric or Nancy as soon as possible. b. New Plats. There were no new plats. c. Amendment to Comprehensive Trail Plan. Director Blank explained several changes to the Comprehensive Trail Plan he is recommending be endorsed including changing tai nevi ew Lane from a Class I to a Class III trail, adding a Class I trail elong new County Road 61 from 45th Avenue to County Road 10 and eliminating a Class II trail along I-494 frontage road between 49th