HomeMy WebLinkAboutPark and Recreation Advisory Commission Minutes 06-29-1982Minutes of the Regular JULY Aeeting of the Park and R,acreation Advisory Commission
June 29, 1982
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Present: Chairman Rice (arrived at 7;30 p.m.), Commissioners Chesebrough, Berg,
Edwards, Threinen, Mullan; staff members Blank, Busch, Helgeson,
Patterson; Planning Commissioner Magnus
Absent: Commissioner Dvorak
1. CALL TO ORDER
Commissioner Threinen called the July meeting to order at 7:14 p.m. on
June 29, 1982, in the City Center Council Chambers.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commissioner Chesebrough moved and Commissioner Berg seconded a motion to
approve the mnutes of the June 3, 1982, meeting as presented. The motion
carried with all ayes.
3. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS
a. Athletic Association Representatives. None were present at this mQeting.
b. Mary Patterson and Rick Busch. Mr. Busch handed out copies of the July
Mayfield schedule and summer enrollment statistics. Suw. er enrollment
is not complete at this time, and a final report on total enrollment
will be prepared for the August meeting.
Following his report, Commissioner Mullan raised some questions about
the Babe Ruth League being split by school districts. Apparently
a child from Brooklyn Center was rejected from playing Babe Ruth
baseball because he lives. in Brooklyn Center and yet his school
is located in District 281. He petitioned Babe Ruth and was given
permission to play, but then was rejected by the NHPAA. It was
suggested that Commissioner Dvorak should report on this issue at
the next meeting and provide some enlightenment to the Commission_.
Mary Patterson handed out copies of statistics comparing spring
quarter enrollment between 1981 and 1982. She also gave a swimming
report which summarized the time spent rearranging classes cancelled
from Sessions III and IV, and the total number of refunds sent out.
She also showed some slides from the neighborhood concert held in
Shiloh Park on J.ne 16.
Beach attendance has been good and concessions are doing very well..
Staff i- on idering leaving beaches open through the end of August
rather than closing them August 15, as has been done in past years.
4. REPORT ON PAST COUNCIL ACTION
a. Hennin 's 1st Addition Update. Council agreed with PRAC's and the
Planning Commissions recommendation to require that lots 1-5 be
dedicated for park purposes. Director Blank met with the St. Mary's
Board of Directors and they are very receptive to leasing property
to the City. He will continue to meet with them to discuss this issue.
5. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
a. 1983 LAWCON/LCMR Grant Application Update. Our application has been
ranked No. 1 in the metropolitan area, Availability of funds is the
FRAC Minutes of dune 29, 1982,
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question that remains at this time. Four -hundred thousand dollars is
available through LCMR, and Mr. Blank hopes that our requested $75,000
W411 come frcm this money.. By late fall. or the firsts part of next.
year, we may be able enter into a purchase agreement.
b. Funding Task Force Report -Jim Rice. Chairman Rice reviewed the funding
p t osop:tes that, WIR;i_developed the Task Force, A written report
has been drafted and will be sent to the Task Force and to PRAC for
their review and comments
6.
Commissioner Mullan asked if the. Task Force had considered the issue
of parks being owned and developed by the private sector and then leased
to the City, Apparently this has been done in Des Moines, Iowa, with
a parking lot, This question led the Ccxmissiun to begin. their
discussion of Item b., b.
NEW BUSINESS
b. Plvn,uth Land Trust, Mayor Davenport, following a visit to Jackson
iy;omingname back to the Council with information on the
Jackson Hole Land Trust, He wculd like to see such a land trust
started here in Plymouth, but wounci l wanted PPAC to review it prior
to taking any action on it. Director Blank pointed'ouc.that the City
is already able to accept land donations, and that the hand trust
would simply be a more formal way to review donations prior to their
acceptance. E. -h commissioner was asked by Chairman Rice to state any
concerns he/she had regarding such a land trust,, Commissioner Threinen
was concerned about the City being offered inconsequential pieces of
land that would only increase the park maintenance work load. (Other
commissioners had this same concern as well.), Commissioner Mullan.
and Commissioner Edwards wondered if any size parcel should be
accepted. Perhaps a minimum size requirement of five acres should be
set, Commissioner Chesebrough suggested that if the land trust is
endorsed, a brochure could be: printed stating the City's willingness
to accept land, but also including a statement regarding the City's
option to refuse anything considered undesirable, Chairman Rice
asked that the.minutes reflect that the Commission does not obiect
to +he proposed land trust, hut, that they feel they need more time
to consider it, and that they would like to have the Planning Commission
review it also before making any recommendations to the City Council,
This item will be on the P.ugust agenda. In the meantime, the Commission
would Iti a Frank. Boyles to provide ahem with some more information..
How is the land trust working in Jackson Hole? Commissioner Mullan
will be visiting there in the near future and will make some inquiries -
while there,.
a New Plats. Church of Epiphany is proposing to build in a commercial
zone rat. r than a residential zone; thus, planners feel' they should
pay the park dedication rates for a Commercial building,.
Prudential has consolidated three lots into one within the Northwest
Business Campus, and will therefore, be required to pay park dedication
on the combined size of the three which is approximately 22 acres.
PRAC Minutes of June 29,, 19,82,
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7. COMMISSION PRESENTATION
Commissioner Mullan would like. Commissioner Dvorak to make a presentation
at the next meeting regarding the incident between the youngster from
Brooklyn Center and the NHPAA.
Planning Commissioner Magnus stated that the Planning Commission is hoping
to meet with PRAC for the joint meeting sometime in September.
3. STAFF COMMUNICATION'
Director Blank talked about a Board and Commission Worshop held in Eden
Prairie that he attended recently. One of the speakers present discussed
a neighborhood -"owned" park whereby residents pay annual dues of $10 which
is used to buy playground equipment and/or to develop new facilities
within the park. The neighbors also take turns providing maintenance
such as mowing, trimiitg, etc. The: neighborhood and City are very pleased
with hog+ this is working out, and it provides for a real sense of "community"
among the neighborhood.
S. UNFINISHED BUSINESS (con"t.)
c. 1983-87 CIP. Director Blank handed out copies of the proposed Parks
83=I and reviewed each year for the Commission. Following
his presentation, Chairman Rice asked the commissioners for their
comme-ts on the prioritization of the projects within each year.
Base` on the positive comments received from resideYnts during the
telephone survey this past year, Commissioner Chesebrough would
like to give more priority to the development of neighborhood parks.
and trails and less priority to developing playfields. Commissioner
Edwards would like trails to have more priority in the. CIP, but has.
no objections to how staff ranked Uhe various projects, Commissioner
Threnen indicated that she concurred with how staff had prioritized
projects. Commissioner Mullan would like to see West Medicine Lake
Park receive more priority, but overall agreed with how items were
prioritized. Commissioner Berg would like to see more money allocated
to neighborhood parks.
Director Blank indicated that now might be the time to begin reviewing
older neighborhood parks to determine if they need redevelopment..
COMMISSIONER MULLAN MOVED AND COMMISSIONER BERG SECONDED A MOTION
TO ENDORSE TRE PARKS: 1.983-87 CIP AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. COMMIS$IONER
CHESEBROUGH ADDED TO THE MOTION THAT STAFF SHOULD BE COMMENDED FOR.
DOING A GOOD JOB, THE MOTION CARRIED WITH ALL AYES.
The next meeting rias scheduled for August 5 at 7;00 p:m. Commissioner
Threinei gill chair it since Chairman Rice will be on vacation.
9. ADJOURNMZNT
The meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m.
Minutes of the Plymouth Park and Recreatioct Advisory Commission Meeting
AUQ-ust 5, 1982s 7.b0 p.m,
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Present. Commissioners Chesebrough, Threinen Mullan, Berg (arrived at 74.35),
and Dvorak, Council member Pat Moen,, Planning Commissioner Clark
Magnus; staff members Frank. Boyles, Eris: Blank and Nancy Helgesor
Absent: Chairman Rice, Conmmiss oner Edwards
1, CALL TO ORDER
Commissioner Threinen called the August meeting of the Park and Recreation
Advisory Commission to order at 7:10 p.m, in the Plymouth City Center Council
Chambers
2, APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Coonissioner Mullan corrected Tatem B -b. of July's minutes by stating that:
a parking ramp was under consideration, Commissioner Chesebrough moved'
and. Commissioner Mullan seconded a motion to approve July's minutes following
this correction. The motion carried will all ayes,
3, VISITOR PRESENTATIONS
No visitors were presnet at this meeting.
4. PAST COUNCIL ACTION
Director Blank stated that the Council has been hearing several complaints
by the public regarding noise and excessive lighting at Oakwood Playfield,
The most recent complainant was Mrs. Marlene Hill who appeared before the
Council at their last meeting. Director Blank explained to her the new policy
established by the Park and Recreation Dept, regarding use of City playfields
and athletic facilities. The Council directed staff to 'work closely with the
athletic association and neighbors in an attempt to minimize problems at
Oakwood,
5, UNFINISHED BUSINESS
a. Negotiations with St, Mary's Church, Director Blank met with St.. Mary's
administrators l:ast,week to discuss furtherthe possible leasing of
land for park purposes. St. Mary's desires a. 5%year lease, while the
Council prefers a 20 -year lease; Upon hearing this, representatives
of St. Mary's indicated that they thought they may wish to sell an 11 -acre
parcel to the City. Assessing has appraised this parcel and indicated
that it is worth.approximately $11,500 per acre. PRAC must now consider
whether or not to buy from St, Mary's or take the 2`.9 acre dedication
from the Henning's 2nd Addition, It was decided to table: this item
until the. September meeting,
6. 1983 LCMR LAWCON Grant Application.. We retained our No. 1 status after
fina ran, 'ng, Director -81ankwill be atted.ing a meeting on August 16
where he will receive the final grant application forms, Prior to
funding, however, the property, must be appraised, and this is a cost that
is not reimbursed through the grant, COMMISSIONER MULLAN MOVED AND
COMMISSIONER CHESEBRQUGH SECONDED A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE STAFF TO WITHDRAW!
1,000 FROM THE PARKS DEDICATION FUND FOR THE PURPOSE OF SECURING AN
APPRAISAL, THE: MOTION CARRIED WITH ALL AYES,