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Park and Recreation Advisory Commission
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Regular Meeting 11Nrsday March 6, 1980`
L, Call to order.
II.; Approval of February 6, 1980 minutes.,
III.,Approval of Consultant selection process and park design steps for
construction of Timbers Shores and Mission Hills Parks.
TV Reviewal of PIP brochure
V Informal review of proposed park contained; in Amhurst Preliminary Plat.
VLk Review of community playfield facility priorities,
FOR YOUR I;NFORMATIOW
1N March newsletter with recreation programs schedule,
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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
PLYMOUTH PARKS AND RECREATION AD Ism.y COWISSION,
February 7, 198
The regular meeting of the Plymouth Park and Recreation Advisory Commission was called
to order by Vice Chairperson Threinen at 7:30 pm. on February 7, 1960 in the City
Council Co.unc.il chambers.
MEMBERS; Brass, Chesebrough,, Mullan, Threinen and Edwards
MEMBERS ABSENT: Terry, ) to
OTHERS PRESENT'. Jane Thornton, Recreation Specialist., Fred Moore, City Engineer/
Director of Pohlic Works, Blair Tremere, Director of Community Development, Frank
Boyles, Administrative Assistant.
The minutes of the: regular meeting of January_P 1980.were moved by Commissioner Mal lzn
and secored by noting that the word "passed" in paragraph
of the second page a c tinged horized. Minutes were approved. MINUTES
R an Industrial Park/Trail Discussion
fr. Al Shackman representing Ryan Construction Company presented information regarding
the development of an industrial zoned 55 acre parcel and, discussed the hardship which
the installation of a trail on this property would present. His major concerns were
the, fact that trail improvements contomplat6,y the City would require. 1.) substantial
additional grading; 2) disruption of landscaping already in place in the United Hardware
parcel; 3) would affect holding ponds and create problems with obtaining Department
of Natural Resources approval; 41 create security and marketability problems because
the trails would allow public, access to the rear of industrial properties.
Vice Chairperson Threinen suggested that the; trial originally scheduled for Nathan
Lane north to the railroad tracks and then westerly south of the tracks across the
parcel might be relocated to the 49th Avenue side and then up the westerly border of
the parcel. Mr. Shackman indicated that this could be a viable consideration.
Community Development director Tremere indicated that along the west side of the
parcel, a 30-50 foot easement would be required and. wetlands in this area could
entail a problem in developing the trail.
Commissioner Mullan asked about the possibility of developing the trial up 'Nathan
Lane to 51st Avenue cul-de-sac and then across the parcel westerly to, the west property
litre and then north to the railroad tracks.: Community Development Director Tremere
noted teat the Council requires an easement for roadway purposes in en east-west
direction along Slst Avenue throughout the property.
We Shackman questioned; the reasons why a trail along the west side of the property
would have to be set in so far toward the anticipated huildim-a. Public Works Director
Moore responded that the wetlands in this area would probably require that the grail
meander unless the Department of Natural Resources would issue permits for paritial fill
of this area.
Rpouth Park and Recreation Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes
February 7* 196
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Comanunity Development Director Tremere clarified the definition of easement: and the
fact that such easements do not have impact upon setbacks in commercial and industrial
plats. Mr,, Shackman indicated the easements Mould have a negative impact on the
site because of the spur tracks to be located throughout the site. Marketability,
dangers in crossing the railroad tracks, including; the associated liability, and the
effect on the united Hardware parcel were also among his concerns.
Commissioner Chesebrough asked whether Mr. Shackma.n had a recommendation which he
would endorse. Mr. Shackman suggested that the trail could he located on 49th
Avenue and then move northerly farther, west of their parcel. Acting, Chairperson
Threinen stated that in previous cases, it has clearly been established that variances
to the trail plan have not occurred and that developers have been responsible for
familiarizing themselves with the City's guide plans, particularly since they have
been used by the City for some five years.
Mr. Chuck Parsons, attorney for united Hardware, commented that his first had satisfied'
all known City requirements and that the imposition of a trail now would cause problems
and additional costs because of the disruption of inplace landscaping. Mr. Parsons
commented that the trail along 49th Avenue perhaps would work out best since an: 80 ft•
easement is required for this street. Community Development Director Tremere emphasized
that the graphics shown by United Hardware and Ryan Construction assume construction.
at the property line and, therefore, suggest. cuts in, landscapingw that likely would not
be the case. He suggested that a meandering trail could minimize damange to existing;
landscaping.
A motion was made by Commissioner Mullan and seconded by Commissioner Brass that two
alternatives be explored, by the staff in cooperation with the developers. including
1) developing the trail northerly along Nathan Lane to 51st Avenue and then westerly
to the west border and then northerly to the railroad tracks; 2) that the trail he
established oto the north boundary of 49th Avenue: easement and thence westerly to
thewest side of the property and then northerly to the tracks.;
Motion carried: 5 - 0
Staff was directed' to work with the developer to establish a reasonable routing for
the trail through this parcel so impact upon wetlands would be minimized, for final
approval.
Approval of Priorities for Participation in Plymouth Athletic Programs
Jane Thorston, Recreation Specialist, introduced a memorandum stating five priorities
which the staff would use in determining which teams participated in Plymouth athletic
programs. The motion was made by Barbara Edwards and seconded by John Mullan to
approve the priorities with the following amendments<
1) Priority two to read: Those teams made up of at least 50% Plymouth residents and
the rest full-time employees.
2) Priority number, three to read: Those teams madeup of one half Plymouth residents
and' residents of bordering communities which do not offer that particular league.
3) Old priorities number four and six deleted and remaining priorities renumbered.
Motion carried; 5 0
A motion was made by Commissioner Edwards, seconded by Commissioner Mullan to affirm
the policy of charging teagnis a holding fee which is to he forfeited iii the team
misrepresents team composition or violates any other Plymouth policy or ordinance
relating to park f cil ities
Plymouth. Park and Recreation. Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes
February 7, 1980
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Community Playfield Consultant Selection, Process,
Vice Chairperson Threinen reviewed the staff memorandum suggesting a consultant
selection process for the anticipated Community Playfield project. Commissioners
1lhreioen Brass and Mullen were asked to serve on a sub -committee which would
ultimately make a recommendation for selection to City Council by February 25.
Community PI ayfi el d fact Sheet
Mr. _Len Thiede of the Plymouth Athletic Association des; ribed the fact sheet to
the 'Park: and Recreation Advisory Commission which will be used as a door to door
drop sheet" for providing Plymouth residents with information about the upcoming
special bond election. He indicated that Association representatives will be
getting together to look at their schedules and territories for presenting information
on this topic. The Park and Recreation Advisory Commission reviewed the contents
of the fact sheet including the facilities proposed for development in each: park..
Mr. Thiede suggested that it would be valuable to have City representatives,, including;
Councilmembers, Commissioners and staff, present at homeowners association meetings
when requested to provide background detail on this issue, The Park and Recreation
Advisory Commission agreed that it: would be appropriate: for City representatives to
act as resources when requested
Community Playfield Reference: Guide
The: Park and Recreation Advisory Commission reviewed the contents of the final draft
of the community playfield reference guide as amended.. The reference guide was
designed to provide staff members, commissioners, and, Councilmembers with basic
reference information about the Plymouth park system and related topics i'n the event
they are requested to provide information on the bond issue. The Commission ad.opted
the reference, guide and recommended that it be submitted to the City Council at
their February 25 meeting for final approval avid implementation.
Meeting wa.s adjourned at. 10;30 p.m.
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CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BLVJQ., PL,YMOUTH', MiNNESOTA 55441
TELEPHONE (612) $56-2800
DATE., February 29, 1980 MEND.
TO: Park and Recreation Advisory Commission
PROM: Frank Boyles, Administrative Assistant.
SUBJECT TIMBER SHORES AND MISSION HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS
The 1980 Capital Improvement budget shows $100000 available for the improvement
of facilities at Timber Shores and Mission hills neighborhood parks. If the bond
referendum is approved for community playfields, it is likely that the work pre,s
sures on PRAC will increase. It is', therefore, essential that we initiate steps
leading to development of these parks as soon as possible. While- I am not familiar
with PRAC procedures for development of such parks, I wouldrecommend the following
schiWale for consideration and discussion.
Target Date Actor
March 14 PRAC/Staff
March 21 Staff's*
March 21 Staff
March 28 Consultant
April 3 PRAC
April 7' Staff
Apri 1 14
May 7
May 8
May 1.4 -
May 19
May 30
June 5
June 9
June 23'
Resi dents/PRAC/.,
Consultants
Consultant
PRAC
Residents/PRAC Cl
Consultants/Staff
Staff
Consultant
PRAC
City Council.
Consultant
item
Selection of consultant.
Enter into agreement with consultants.
Provide any existing site ,purveys, etc.
Estimates costs of various standard facilities
for installation of parks.,
Review costs of standard facilities with
consultant.
Send invitations to residents in walking
neighborhoods in which parks are: located.
Attend meeting with residents to discuss
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Prepare concept plans based upon meeting,
Review concept plans.
Meet with; residents to discuss concept plans.
Present approved concept plans to City Council
for authorization from prelimnary reports.
Prepare preliminary report.
Approve preliminary report..
Approve preliminary report, authorize plans
and specifications.
Prepare specifi-cations.
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MEMOTO PRAC_
February "29, 1980
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July} 3 Staff Advertise and receive bids.
July 9 Staff/Consultant Review and analyze bids.
July 10 PRAM; Review and recommend awardof bid.
July 14 City Council Award bid and: contract.,
July 28 Contractor/ Begin construction and inspection,
Consultant
It would be appropriate for the Commission to discuss the proposed timetable
and steps involved as to their appropriateness.: To initiate the development
process the. Commission, may also wish to form a subcommittee for consultant
selection as we did with the community playfl'elds.
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CITY 01 PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BLV , PL.VMOU1;H, MINNESOTA 55441
TELEPHONE {512} 55'D-0-800
DATE, February 29 1980
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TOz Park & Recreation Advisory Commission
FROM. 'Frank Boyles, Administrative Assistant'0'
SUBJECT. Review of PIP Brochure
Friendship 'Productions, consultants for the preparation of public relations materials.
for the city, has contacted me indicating some concern as to the timing of receiving
final approval for the PIP brochure. I have therefore advised them that: the. Park
a«d Recreation Advisory Commission stili. review the art work contained in the brochure
at its March 3 meeting so that: necessary revisions may be initiated. I will have
the art work available at the meeting.
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3400 PLYMOUTH 8L M, 'PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA. 55441
TELEPHONE (612) 559.2800
SATE, Februaryar 290 1980
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To: Park & Recreation Advisory Commission '
FROM; Frank Boyles, Administrative_ AssistantIN\
SUBJECT, Informal Review of park Contained in Preliminary Plat of Amhurst
As you probably are aware, developers of the Amhurst parcel have expressed
a willingness to provide a: park area of some eleven acres, within their plat.---
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The City Council, in "their original approval of`the Amhurst preliminary plat,
required that "final park needs be consistent with the recommenda ti oils of the
Parks and Recreation Advisory Commission which should review the plans prior
to final platting." The attached information sheets provide basic information
about the proposed park, which inciaentaIly is not being platted at this time.
7 The Commission may want to: discuss this matter generally to express their pre-
ferences in terms of facilities to be included. Community Development Director
Tremere will be present to provide more detailed information to the Commission
as well as to answer questions.
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adoption., RESOLUTION NO. 79-
544 APPROVING PRELIMINARY PLAT/PLAN, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
FOR AMHURST" RPUD FOR BANC,ON, INC. (
79046) WHEREAS, Rare Con, Inc. has requested approval of preliminary plat/
plan and conditional use permit for residential planned
unit development north of Turtle Lake and east of Vicksburg Lane on
approximately 145.9 acres-,
and, WHEREAS, the Planning Commission has reviewed the proposal at a duly
called public hearing and has reconneded
approval; NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT HEREBY RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA, that it should and hereby does approve the
preliminary plat/plan and conditional use permit for "Amhuast" RPUD 479-2.
for BahCon, Inc. subject to the following
conditions: 1, Compliance with the City Engineer's
memorandum. 2, Approved maximum density shall be 2.58 units per acre exclusive
of the 10,18 acre wetland area for a maximum total of 350
dwelling
units. 3. Completion of the required environmental assessment, worksheet
process prior to final
platting. 4. Collector trail provision through the west and north portions of
the site shall be made outside of wetland areas and in accordance
with City trail corridor use
plan. 5. Parks_ dedication for a neighborhood park in accordance with
City Standards, with credit granted for trail and park. consistent
with the City policy for suitable and useable land; final park needs
to be consistent with recommendations of the park and recreation
advisory commission v;hich should review the plans prior to'final.
platting; the northerly boundary of the area shown as park shall be
provided with a min.fimum of 400 feet of continuous street frontage on
the proposed 46th
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6. Compliance with City policy Resolution #79-80 regarding development
containing or adjacent to a storm. water holding area.
7. Street names shall be in accordance with adopted street name policy.
8. Access shall be provided from the west. portion of this project to the
property to the south as ak proved by the City Engineer.
9. All ihinimum yard setbacks, shall be in accordance with ordinance
standards with the following exceptions; side yard to garage 5 feet,
side yard to dwelling 10 feet..
10. Minimum width of the installed east/west collector street within the
designated 60 foot right-of-way shall. be 36 feet with final dimensions
and design to be verified by the City Engineer.
11 all double -fronting lots along 46th, 48th, Minnesota, Lane iood, Juneau
and Kingsview shall be designed to exit on the least --travelled street,
12. The quadraminium development private open space shall be platted to
include the pond shoreline abutting that portion of the development.
13. The developer shall work. be the City staff to include the functional
recommendations of the Barton-Aschman traffic study including:,
a) provision for a north -south local street through the plat to
proposed 49th; b) establishment of an alighment for 49th as it relates
to the plat; c) pro'ision for extension of 46th Avenue to serve: as,
east=west collector from Vicksburg to Fernbrook d) provision for
north -south extension of proposed collector in the vicinity of the
eastern boundary of tate plat.
14.. Prior to final platting of the quadraminium area, the developer shall
be required to demonstrate compliance with the general requirements of
Pel i cy Resolution No. 79-525, as amended, for the peripheral transition
requirements of the, quadraminium, homes.
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The =tion for the adoption of the foregoing Resolution was duly`sfconded
by ' `Councilmember_ Hit and upon vote being taken thereon, the
following voted in: favorthereof: Councilmembers
Davenport, Hoyt and. Neils
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gihe eiv7- in the resolution v:as decIared: duly passed and a opt
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CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BLVD.. PLYMOUTH, Mi 4NESOTA 55441
TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
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DATE: February 29, 1980
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TO: Park and Recreation Advisory Commiss%on ,l
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FROM: Frank Boyles, Administrative Assistant
SUBJECT: DISCUSSION OF FACILITY PRIORITIES FOR COWUNITY ?LAYFIELDS
Given the compacted timetable For the construction of six community playfields,
it is essential that the park,consultant be provided with information on the
specific number and types of facilities to be constructed each site as well
as an indication of those facilities which would be cons i i--... .d most likely for
construction at some later date in the: event that funding restrictions make
construction of all facilities impossible. As to the first issue, the athletic
associations have provided a, fairly comprehensive list of facilities for each
site. (See attached list.)
While we all hope that all facilities listed can be constructed within budget
limitations, it is essential that some form of consensus be reached between
the various groups involved regarding faciliAies which would be the first to
be excluded in the event that budget limitations occur. For this reason, I
have.invited representatives from the athletic associations and school dis-
tricts to attend the PRAC meeting to discuss this issue. i believe a large
portion of the PRAC meeting should be set aside for this purpose so that by
the end of the meeting we have a fair understanding of those facilities which
would be excluded from initial construction if worst comes to worst.
The following proposed park elements should be prioritized:
1. Irrigation systems 10. Soccer fields
2. Outfield fencing 11. Hockey rinks
3. P::rk perimeter fencing 12. General slating areas
4 Permanent vs. temporary facilities 13. Trails
5. Field lighting (above ground) 14. Tennis courts
6. Wiring and light bases (below ground) 15. Warming houses
7. Softball fields 16. Seedvs. sod'
S. Football fields 17. Aglime
9. Baseball fields
The Commission may wish to add items to this list. In the interest of saving
time, it might be appropriate to review this list prior to the meeting and
establisfi your own preliminary priorities Then, at the meeting, we can focus
upon achieving consensus. For your information, I am including a list of the
general staff priorities which were provided to the park consultant at a recent
meeting.
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1) La Ca to - ('approximately 5 acres) 1 hockey rink, 2 softball fields,
general sating, warming house and tot lot area.
2) F1mouththJunior Hien School ( approximately 14 acres) 2 lighted hockey
rinks, pleasure rink, I warming house, 4 lighted tennis courts 2
lighted soccer fields, 2 l i ghted football fi,el ds , and 3 lighted softbal l
fields.
3} Oakwood Elementa - (approximately 18 acres) 1 lighted hockey rink,
f warm n ous.e 1 general skating area, 2 additional lighted tennis
courts, 3 lighted soccer/football, fields, 2 lighted softball, fields
and 1 lighted baseball field.
4) Fernbrook Lane- (approximately 25 acres) 2 lighted hockey rinks,
warming ouse, 1 general skating area, 1 lighted soccer/football
field, 2 lighted softball fields, and,l lighted baseball field.
5) Zachary Lane (between 25 and 30 acres) 2 lighted hockey rinl 1
warming house, 4 lighted tennis courts, 2 lighted soccer/football
fields, 2 lighted softball, fields and 2 lighted baseball Fields
6) Rid emnunt (between 16 and 18 acre t) lights for 2 existing hockey
rn -1 ig-hts for 3 existing tennis courts, grading and drainage work,
I warming house, 2-3 soccer/football fields 1 baseo 11 field and
2 softball fielde b y "
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STAFF PRIORITIES FOR uOMMUSITY PLAYFIEL0 CONSTRUCTIOfY
1. That the parks be constructed so that maintenance is minimal,
2., That. stotTil water drainage be an important consideration in
construction of the playfields.
3. That sufficient paryting be located in a fashion to Minimize and
preferably eliminate off-street parking
4, To ensure that the parks designs provide for appropriate facility
linkages with our trail system guide plan.
S. That playfieid design is undertaken considering the location and
II' availability of existing utilities and the most economical yet
effective deans b -F delivering those; utilities to the site be
recoimiended
6. That the construction under this project on all sites be: considered
as a potential first phase in a multiphase process which could
expand the facilities at each. park.
7. That all facilities including park buildings be is vandal -proof as
possible,
8 That surrounding land uses receive appropriate consideration in terms
of buffering against visual or audio distractions associated with
playfield usage,
9. That the City Council be involved in critical decisions relating to
this project. Therefore, the design and; construction schedule must
be prepared in consideration of the dates upon which the Council
normally meets,
10. That where possible,_ existing sports facilities on the sites be upgraded,
in conjuncture with this project so they blend with: the: new facilities;
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AG'tNDA
Park and Recreation- Advisory Commission
Regular Meeting Thursday; March 6, 1980
T. Call to order.
II. Approval. of February 6 1980 minutes.
III. Approval of Consultant selection process and park design steps for
construction of Timbers Shores and Mission Hills Parks,
TV. Reviewalof PIP brochure.
V. Informal review of proposed park contained in Rmhorst Preliminary Plat,
VI. Review of community playfield facility priorities,
FOR YOUR INFORMATION.:
1. March newsletter with recreation programs schedule.
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
PLYMOUTH PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION
February 7, 1930
The regular meeting of the Plymouth Park and Recreation Advisory Commission was called
to order by Vice: Chairperson Threinen at 7;30 p.m. on February 7, 1930 in the City
Council Council Chambers.
MEMBERS; Brass, Chesebrough, Mullan, Threinen and Edwards.
MEMBERS. ASSENT: Terry.
OTHERS PRESENT: ,Jane 'Thornton, Recreation Specialist, Fred, Moore, City Engineer/
Director of Public Works, Blair Tremere, Director of Community Development, Frank
Boyles, Administrative Assistant.
The minutes of the regular meeting of January , 1980.were moved by Commissioner Mullan
and seconded by noting that the word "passed" in paragraph
of the second page be changed to "authorized." Minutes were approved. MINUTES
Ryan Industrial Park/Trail Discussion
Mr. Al Shackman representing Ryan Construction Company presented information regarding
the development of an industrial zoned 55 acre parcel and discussed the hardship which
the installation of a trail on this property would present. His major concerns were
the fact than trail improvements contemplated by the City would require 1) substantial
additional grading, 2) disruption of landscaping already in place in the United Hardware
parcel, 3) would affect holding ponds and create problems with obtaining Department
of Natural Resources approval; 4) create security and marketability problems because
the:: trails would allow public access to the rear of industrial properties.:
Vice Chairperson Threinen suggested that the trial originally scheduled for Nathan
Lane north to the railroad tracks and then westerly south of the tracks across the
parcel might be relocated to the 49th Avenue side and then up the westerly border of
the parcel. Mr. Shackman indicated that this could be. a viable consideration.
Community Development Director Tremere indicated that along the west sine of the
parcel a 30-50 foot easement, would be required and wetlands in this area could
entail a problem in devel.opi ng the trail.
Commissioner Mullan asked about the possibility of developing the trial up Nathan
Lane to 51st Avenue cul-de-sac and then across the parcel. westerly to the west property
line and then north to the railroad tracks. Community Development Director Tremere
noted that the Council requires an easement for roadway purposes in an east -west
direction along 51st Avenue throughout the property..
Mr. Shackm an questioned the reasons why a trail along the west side ,f ,,he property
would have to be set in so far toward the anticipated buildings. Public Works Director
Moore responded that the wetlands in this area would probably require that the trail
meander unless the Department of Natural Resources would issue permits for paritial fill
of this area,
Plymouth Park and Recreation Advisory Commission Meeting, Minutes
February 7, 198
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Community Development Director Tremere clarified the definition of easement and the
fact that such easements do not have impact upon setbacks in commercial and industrial
plats. Mr. Shackman indicated the easements would have a negative impact on the
site because of the spur tracks to be located throughout the site. Marketability,
dangers in crossing the railroad tracks, including the associated liability, and the
effect on the United Hardware parcel were also among his concerns.
Commissioner Cheseb.rough asked whether Mr. Shackman had a recommendat"cn which he
would endorse. Mr. Shackman suggested that the trail could be located on 49th
Avenue and then move northerly farther, west of their parcel. Acting Chairperson
Threinen stated that in previous cases it has clearly been established that variances
to the trail plan have not occurred and that developers have been responsible for
familiarizing themselves with the City's guide plans, particularly since they have
been used by the City for some five years.
Mr. Chuck Parsons,: attorney for United Hardware, commented that his firm had satisfied
all known City regIZirements; and that the imposition of a trail now would cause problems
and: additional cost`s because of the disruption of i npl ace landscaping. Mr. Parsons
commented that the trail along 49th Avenue perhaps would work out hest since an 80 ft.
easement is rec,uired -for this street. Community Development Director Tremere emphasized
that the graphics shown by Vnited Hardware and Ryan Construction assume construction
at the property line and, therefore, suggest cuts in landscaping, that likely would not
be the case. He suggested that a meandering trail could minimize damange to existing
1 andscapi ng
A motion wass made by Commissioner Mullan and seconded by Commissioner Brass that two
alternatives he explored by the staff in cooperation with the developers including
1) developing the: trail northerly along Nathan Lane to 51s" Avenue and then westerly
to the west border and then northerly to the railroad tracks; 2) that the trail he
established on the north boundary of 49th Avenue easement and thence westerly to
the west side of the property and then northerly to the tracks,
Motion carried: 5 0
Staff was directed to work with the developer to establish a reasonable routing for
the trail through this parcel so impact upon wetlands would be minimized, for final
approval.,
A roval of Priorities for Participation in Plymouth Athletic Prorams
Jane Thorston, Recreation Specialist, introduced a memorandum stating five priorities
which the staff would use in determining which teams participated in Plymouth athletic
programs. The motion was made by Barbara Edwards and seconded by John Mullan to
approve the priorities with the following amendments
1) Priority two to read: Those teams made up of at least 50% Plymouth residents and
the rest full-time employees.
Z) Priority number three to read: Those teams madeup of one half Plymouth residents
and residents of bordering communities which do not offer that particular league.
3) Old priorities number four and six deleted and remaining priorities renumbered.
Motion carried: 5
A motion was made tv Commissioner Edwards, seconded by Commissioner Mullan to affirm
the policy of charging teasms a holding fee which is to he forfeited it the team
misrepresents team composition or violates any other Plymouth policy or ordinance
relating to park facilities.
A Plymouth Meet, Park and Recreation Advisory Commission Mee , ng Minutes
a February 7 1930
Page 3
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Community Playfield Consultant Selection Process
Me Chairperson Threinen reviewed the staff memorandum suggesting a consultant
selection process for the anticipated Community Playfield project. Commissioners.
Threinen,,_ Brass and Mullan were asked to: serve on a sub-cotimittee which would
ultimately make a recommendation for selection to City Council by February 25.
Community Pla field Fact sheet
Mr. Len Thiede of the Plymouth Athletic Association described the fact sheet to
the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission which will be used as a door to door
drop sheet" for providing Plymouth residents with information about the upcoming
special gond election. He indicated that Association representatives will be
getting together to look at their schedules and territories for presenting information
on this topic. The Park and: Recreation Advisory Commission reviewed the contents
of the fact sheet including the facilities proposed for developroetrt in each park,
Mr. Thiede suggested that it would he valuable to have City representatives, including
Councilmembersx Commissioners and, staff, present at homeowners association meetings
when iequested to provide background detail on this issue. The Park and Recreation
Advisory Commission agreed that it would be appropriate for City representatives to
act as resources when requested.
Community Playfield Reference Guide
The Park and Recreation Advisory Cotrinission reviewed the contents. of the final draft
Of the community playfield reference guide as amended. The reference guide was
designed to provide staff members, commissioners and Councilmembers with basic
reference information about the Plymouth park system and related topics in the event
they are requested to provide information on the bond issue. The Commission adopted
the reference guide and recommended that it be submitted to the City Council at
their February 25 meeting for final approval and implivnentation.
Meeting was adjourned at 10:30 p.m.
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CITY P1 1.TN
3400, PLYMOUTH BLVD,, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55441
TELEPHONE (812) 559.-2800
b 29DATE-, Februaryrr , 1980
MEMO
To?' Park and Recreation Advisory Commission
FA01M Frank Boyles, Administrative Assistant
SUBJECT., TIMBER SHORES AND MISSION HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS
The 1980 Capital Improvement budget. shows $100,000 available for the improvement
of facilities at Timber Shores and (fission Hills neighborhood parks. If the bond
referendum is approved for community playfields, it is likely that the work pies-
sures on PRAC will increase;., It is, therefore, essentialthat we initiate steps
leading to development of these parks as soon as possible,. While I am not familiar
with PRAT: procedures for development of such parks, I would recommend the following
schedule for consideration and discusskon.
Target Date Actor Item
March 14 PRAC/Staff Selection of consultant.
March 21 Staff Enter into agreement with consultants.
March 21 Staff Provide any existing site, surveys., etc;
March 28` Consultant Estimates costs of various standard facilities
for installation of parks.
April. 3' PRAC Review costs of standard facilities with
consul t -wit.
April 7 Staff Send invitations to residents in walking
neighborhoods in which parks are located.
April 14 ResidentsIPRAC/ Attend meeting with residents to discuss
Consultants facilities.
May 7 Consultant Prepare concept plans based upon meeting.,
May B PRAC Review concept plans.
May 14 Residents/PRAC: Meet with residents to discuss concept plans,
consultants/Staff
May 1.9 Staff Present approved concept plans to City Council
for authorization from prelimnary reports.
May 30 Consultant Prepare preliminary report.
June S PRAC Approve preliminary report.
June 4 City Council Approve preliminary repast, authorize plans
and specifications.
June 23 Consultant Prepare specifications.
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July 3 Star'f Advertise and receive bids.
July 9 StafflCons ulWit Review and analyze bids
July 10. FRAC Review and recommend award of bid.
July 14 City Council Award bid and contract.
July 28 Contractor/ Begin construction and inspection.
Consultand
It would be appropriate for the Commission to discuss the proposed timetable
and steps involved as to their appropriateness, To initiate the development
process the Commission may also rush to form a subcommittee for consultant
selection as we did with the: community playfields,
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CITE OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BLVD,, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55441
TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
T Februa Z5 MEMOEM
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TO,. Park b Recreation Advisory Commission
FROM, Boyles, Administrative Assistant
UBJEGT= Review of PTF Brochure
friendship Productions, consultants for the preparation of public relations materials
for the city, has contacted me indicating some concern as to the timing of receiving
finalapprovalfor.the PTP brochure. l have therefore advised. them that the Park
and Recreation Advisory Commission will review the art work contained in the brochure
at its March 3meeting so that necessary revisions may be initiated. I will have
the art work ava.iiable, at the meeting,
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CITY OF PLYMOUTH
34.00 PLYMOUTH BLVD,, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55441
TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
DATE., Feb 29 1980 MEM
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TU; Park b Recreation Advisory Co'mmi ss i on
FROM. Frank Boyles, Administrative Assistant)
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SUBJECT, Informal Review of Park Contained in Preliminary Plat of Amhurst
As you probably are aware, developers of the Amhurst parcel have expressed
a. willingness to provide a park area of some eleven acres: within their plat
The City Council', in their original approval of the: Amhurst preliminary plat,
required that "final park needs be consistent with the recommendations of the
Parks and Recreation. Advisnry Commission which should review the plans prior
to final platting." The attached information sheets provide basic information
about the proposed parka which incidentally is not being platted at this time.
The Commission may want to discuss this matter generally to express their pre-
ferencelp in terms of facilities to be included, Community Development Director
Tremere will be present to provide more detailed information to the Commission
as well as to answer questions:
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RESOLUTION NO. 79-544'
APPROVING PRELIMINARY PLAT/PLAN, CONDITIONAL USEPERMIT FOR
AMHURST" RPUD FOR BANCON INC. (79O46)
WHEREAS Ban Con, Inc. has requested approval of preliminary plat/plan
and conditional use permit for residential planned unit
development north of Turtle Lake and east of Vicksburg Lane on approximately
145.9 acres; and,
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission has reviewed the proposal at a, duly called
public hearing and has recommeded approval.;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT HEREBYRESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA, that it should and hereby does approve the preliminary
plat%plan, and conditional use permit for "*huast" RPUD #79-2 for
Banton, Inc. subject to the following conditions:
1. Compliance with the: City Engineer's memorandum.
2.: Approved maximum density shall be 2.58 units per acre exclusive of
the 10,18. acre wetland area for 3 maximum total of 350 dwelling
units.
3. Completion of the required environmental assessment worksheet process
prior to final platting.
4. Collector trail provision through the west and north portions of the
site shall be made outside of wetland areas and in accordance %si'th
City trail corridor use plan.
5. Parks dedication for a neighborhood park in accordance with City
Standards, with credit granted for trail and park consistent with
the Citypolice forsuitableand useable lands final park needs to
be consistent with recom-mcndations ofthe park and recreation advisory
commission which should review the plans prior to final platting
the northerly boundary of the area shown as park shall be provided
with a minimum of 400 feet of continuous street frontage onthe
proposed 4'6th. Avenue.
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containing or adjacent to a storm. water holding area..
7. Street names shall be in accordance with adopted street name policy.
8. Access shall be provided from the west portion of this project to the.
property to the south as approved by the City Engineer,
9. All minimum ,yard setbacks shall be in accordance with ordinance:
standards with the following exceptions: side yard to garage 6 feet,
side: yard; to dwelling 10 feet.
10.. Minimum width: of the installed east/west collector street within the:
designated 60 foot right. -of -way shall be 36 feet; with final dimensions
and. design to be verified by the City 'ngineer.
11 All double -fronting lots along 46th, 48th, Minnesota, Lanewood, Juneau
and Kingsview, shall be designed to exit on the least -travelled street.
12. The quadraminiuru development private open space shall be platted to
include the pond shoreline abutting that portion of the development.
13. The developer shall, work be the City staff to include the funct%anal
recommendations of the Barton-Aschman traffic study including;
a) provision for a north -south local street through the'plat to
proposed 49th; b) establishment of an alighment for 49th as it relates.
to the plat; c} provision for extension of 46th Avenue to serve as
east -west collector from Vicksburg to Fembrook; d) provision for
north -south extension of proposed collector in the vicinity of the
eastern boundary of the plat.
14. Prior to final platting of the, quadraminium area, the developer shall
be: required to demonstrate compliance. with the general requirements of
Policy Resolution No. 79-525, as amended, for the peripheral transition
requirements of the quadramihium homes.
7be motion for the adaption of the foregoing Resolution w•as duly seconded
by ' 'Counc.i lmember Hoyt and upon vote tweing taken thereon, the,
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TELEPHONE (612) 559-2E00-
GATE February a9, 1980
MEMO
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FROM., Frank Boyles, Administrative Assistant
SUBJECT: DISCUSSION OF I:ACILITY PRtORI.TIES FOR COWUNITY PLAYFIELDS
Given the compacted timetable for the construction of six community playfields,
it is essential that the park consultant be provided with information on the
specific number and types of facilities to be constructed on each site as well
As an indication of those facilities which would be considered most likely for
construction at some later date in the event that; funding restrictions make
construction of all facilities impossible. As to the first issue, the athletic
associations have provided a fairly comprehensive list of facilities for each
site. (See attache iist.)
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While we all. hope that all facilities listed can be constructed within budget.
limitations, it is: essentialthat some form of consensus be reached between
the: various groups involved regarding facilities which would be the first to
be excluded in the event that budget limitations occur. For this reason, I
have invited representatives from the athletic associations and school dis-
tr tts to attend the PRAC meeting to discuss this issue. I believe a large
portion of the PRAC meeting should be set aside for this purpose so that by
the end of the meeting we have a fair understanding of`those facilities which
would be exclded from initial construction if worst comes to worst.
The following proposed park elements should be prioritized:
1. Irrigation systems 10., Soccer fields
Zi Outfield fencing 11. Hockey rinks
3. Park perimeter fencing 12. General skating areas
4. Permanent vs. temporary facilities 13. Trails
S. Field lighting (above ground) 14. Tennis, courts
6. Wiring and light bases (below ground) 15. Warming houses
1. Softball fields 16. Seed vs. sod
841 Football fields 17 Agl' i me
9 Baseball fields
The Commission may wish to add items to this list.. In the interest of gaving
time, it might be appropriate to review this list prior to the meeting and
4 establish your own; preliminary priorities. Then, at the meeting, we can focus
upon achieving consensus. For your information, I am including a list of the
general staff priorities which were provided to the park consultant at a recent
meeting.
1) La Co tete - (approximately 5 acres) 1 hockey rink, 2 softball fields,
generalskating, warming house and tot lot area.
2) Plymouth Junior High School - (approximately 14 acres) 2 lighted hockey
rinks., pleasure rink, Z warming house, 4 lighted tennis courts, Z
I ighted soccer fields, 2; lighted football fields, and 3 lighted softball
fields.
3) Oakwood Elements (approximately 18 acres) 1 lighted hockey rink,
warm ng house, 'general skating area, 2 additional lighted tennis
courts, 3 lighted soccer/football fields, 2 lighted softball fields
and 1 lighted baseball field,
4) Fernbrook Lane - (approximately 2.5 acres) 2 lighted hockey rinks,
warming -house, l general skating area, 1 lighted soccer/footbal;l
field, 2 lighted softball fields, and 1 lighted baseball field'..
5) Zachary Lane - (between. 25 and 30 acres) 2 lighted hockey rinks, 1
warming house, 4 lighted tennis courts, 2 lighted soccer/football
fields, 2 lighted softball fields and 2 lighted baseball fields.
6) Rid mount- (between lb' and 18 acres) lights for 2 existing hockey
rinks, lights for 3 existing tennis courts, grading and drainage work,
1 warmingg house, 2-3 soccer/football fields, l baseball field and
1 softbaell field.
MINUTES Or THE REGULAR. MEETING OF THE
PLYMOUTH PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORYCOMMISSION
February 7 1980
The regular meeting of the P13mouth Park and Recreation Advisory Commission, was called
to order by Vice Chairperson Threinen at 7:30 p.m. on February 7. 1980 in the City
Council Council Chambers:,
MEMBERS: Brass, Chesebrough Mullan, Threinen and Edwards.
MEMBERS ABSENT Terry, . c_
OTHERS PRESENT: Jane Thorston, Recreation Specialist,, Fred Moore, City Engineer/
Director of Public Works, Blair Tremere, Director of Community Development, Frank
Boyles, Administrative As istant..
The minutes of the regular meeting of January _, 1980,were moved by CommissiCaner Mullan
and seconded by noting that the word "passed" in paragraph
of the second page be changed to "authorized." Minutes were: approved. MINUTES';
gyan Industrial Park/Trail Discussion
Mr. Al Shackman representing Ryan Construction Company presented information regarding
the development of an industrial zoned F7 acre parcel and discussed, the hardship which
the installation of a trail' on this propQr°ty would present., His major concerns were
the fact that trail improvements contemplated by the. City would require 1) substantial
additional grading; 2) disruption of iandscaping already in place in the United Hardware
parcel; 3) would affect holding ponds and create problems with obtaining Department
of Natural Resources approval; 4) create security and marketability problems because
the trails would allow public access to the rear of industrial properties.
Vice Chairperson. Threinen suggested' that the trial originally scheduled for Nathan
Lane > north to the railroad tracks and then westerly south of the tracks across the
parcel might to relocated to the 49th Avenue side and then up the westerly border of
the parcel. Mr. Shackman indicated that this could be a viable consideration.
Community Development Director Tremere i`ndica.ted that along the west side of the
parcel, a 30-50 foot easement would be required and wetlands in this area, could'
entail a problem in developing the trail
Commissioner Mullan asked about the possibility of developing the trial up Nathan
Lane to 51st Avenue cul-de-sac and then across the parcel westerly to the west property
line and then north to the railroad tracks. Community Development Director Tremere
noted that the Council requires an easement for roadway purposes in an east -west;
direction along 51st Avenue throughout the property.
Fir., Shackman questioned the reasons why a trail along the west side of the property
would have to be set in so far toward the anticipated buildings. Public Works Director
Moore responded that the wetlands in this area would probably require that the trail
meander unless the pepartment.of Natural Resources would issue permits for paritial fill
of this area.
Pfymouth mark and Recreation Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes
February 7, 198Q
Page 2
Community Development Director Tremere clarified the definition of easement and the
fact that such easements do not have impact upon setbacks in commercial and industrial
plats. Mr. Shackman indicated the easements would have a negative impact on the
site because of the, spur tracks to be located throughout the site. Marketability,
dangers in crossing the railroad tracks, including the associated liability, and the
effect on the United Hardware parcel were also among his concerns.
Commissioner Chesebrough asked whether Mr. Shackman had a recommendation which he
would endorse. Mr.. Shackman suggested that the trail could be located on 49th
Avenue and thers move northerly farther west of their pat -eel. Acting Chairperson.
Threinen stated that in previous cases it has clearly been established that variances
to the trail plan have not occurred and that developers have been responsible for
familiarizing themselves with the, City's guide plans, particularly since they have
been used by the City for some five years.
Mr. Chuck Parsons, attorney for United Hardware, commented that his firm had satisfied
all known City requirements and that the imposition of a trail now would cause problems
and, additional costs because of the disruption of inplace landscaping. Mr. Parsons
commented' that the trail along 49th Avenue perhaps would work out best since an BQ ft.
easement is required for this street. Community Development Director Tremere emphasized
that the graphics shown by United Hardware and Ryan Construction assume construction
at the property line and, therefore, suggest cuts in landscaping, that likely would not
be the case. He suggested that a meandering trail could minimize damange to existing
1 and scapi ng.
A motion was made by Commissioner Mullan and seconded by Commissioner Brass that two
alternatives be explored by the staff in cooperation with the developers including
lj developing the trail northerly along Nathan Lane to 51st Avenue and then westerly,
to the west border and then northerly to the railroad tracks; 2) that the trail be
established on the north boundary of 49th Avenue easement and thence westerly to
the west side of the property and then northerly to the tracks..
Motion carried; 5 0
Staff was directed to work with the G ivvloper to establish a reasonable routing for
the trail through this parcel so i ppa t upon wetlands would be Minimized,-fer ral
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Approval of Priorities for Participation in Plymouth Athletic Programs
Jane Thorston, Recreation Specialist, introduced' a memorandum stating five priorities
which the staff world use in determining which teams participated in Plymouth athletic
programs. The: motion was made by Barbara Edwards and seconded by John Mullan to
T` approve the priorities c s a{(vis t
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A motion was made by Commis,.{ion r' Edwards, seconded by Commissioner Mu .•,3n to affirm
the policy of charging te ins a(holding fee which, to be forfeited Ti the team
misrepresents team composizon or violates 4idLother Plymouth policy or ordinance
w relating to park facilities.
Plymouth Park and Recreation Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes
February 70 1930
Page
Community Playfield Consultant Selection Process
Vice Chairperson Threi nen reviewed the staff memorandum suggesting a consultant
selection process for the anticipated Community Playfield project. Commissioners
Threinen, Brass and Mullan were asked to serve on,a sub -committee; which Wuld
ultimately make: a recommendation for selection to City Council by February 25
Community Playfie.ld Fact Sheet
Mr. Len *wiede of the Plymouth Athletic Association described the fact sheet; to
the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission which will be used as a door to door
drop sheet" for providing Plymouth residents with infornrat:ion about the upcoming
special bond election. He indicated that Association representatives will be
getting together to look at their schedules and territories for presenting information
on this topic. The Park and Recreation Advisory Commission reviewed the contents
of the fact sheet including thefacilities proposed for development in each park.
Mr. Thiede suggested that it would be valuable to have City representatives, including
Councilmembers:, Commissioners and staff, present at homeowners association meetings
when requested to provide background detail on this issue.- The Park and Recreation
Advisory Commission agreed that it would be appropriate; for City representatives to
act as resources when requested'.
Community Playfield Reference Guide
The Park and Recreation Advisory Commission ,reviewed the contents of the final draft.
of the community pl'ayfield reference guide as amended.. The reference: guide was
designed to provide staff members, commissioners and Councilmembers with basic
reference information about the Plymouth park system and reiated topics :in the event
they are requested to provide information on the bond issue. The Commission adopted
the reference guide and recommended that it be submitted to the City Council at
their February 25 meeting for final approval and implementation.
Meeting was adjourned at 10:30 p.m.