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PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
THURSDAY, DECEMBER 6, 1979
COMr1ISSIONERS EXPECTED TO ATTEND
X Brass, x Chesebrough, X Edwards, x Threinen, _ Y Mullan,
I Terry, x Rices Johnson, Christian, Hanson
Cal I to Order. I's SS'
Minutes a•'
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Topics:
1. Community Education Council Member Davenport
et' Plymouth Junior Highschool Hockey Rink
3., Marsh -Wetlands Dedication
4. Public Information Program Status and Implementation
5. County Road 15 Trail Grant
46: Playfield Devei.opmpnt Assistance - Nationai Guard and Army Reserves
7. Plymouth Athletic Association Len Thiede
8. January Arnda
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CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BLVD., PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55441
TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
DATE, November 2.8, 1979
TO: PRAC
FROM: Jon J. Born
MEMO
SUBJECT; Community Education Services Typical Organizational and Operational
Structure
In November, 1979, the, PRAC deferred action on a policy recommendation which
stated that:
when the school. districts curtail extra curricular activities their
respective Community 'Education Departments cr.ntinue to offer the activ-
ities through the use of the Community Educ4tion levies and user fees.
The PRAC requested that Counci member Davenport attend the December 6, 1979
PRAC meeting to discuss his role as laison to the Community Education Depart-
ments for the Wayzata and Robbinsdale School Districts.
School districts in Minnesota are empowered by the legislature to create
Community Education Services Departments for the purpose of maximizing the use
of public schools by the community; using the abilities and knowledge of the
community residents in providing a variety of programs for people of all ages.
Services offered through Community Education Services. Departments have typically
included Adult Continuing Education Adult Basic Education, Summer School,
Pre-school, Community Day Care, Early Childhood and Family Education, and
Recreation.
Districts implementing Community Education Services may levy up to $2.50 per
capita and are then eligible to receive a $,75 match per capita from the state,
providing they meet the state requirements.
Boards of Education shall provide for a Citizens Advisory Council to consist of
members who represent service organizations; churches; private schools, local
government; park, recreation or forestry service of municipal or local govern-
ments located in whole or in part within the boundaries of the school district.
Each Advisory Council shall adopt a pol cy to reduce and eliminate program
duplications within the district. A Certificate of Compliance shall certify
that the governing boards of the county, municipality and township have been
sent a written notice of a meeting to discuss methods of increasing mutual.
cooperation between such bodies and the school board. The failure to attend the
meeting shall not affect the authority of the school district to make a levy
pursuant to the adopted regulations.
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The Citizens Advisory Gewittee-is required to meet at least four times a year
and from,this body an executive committee is formed which meets monthly with
the purpose of providing input to the Community Education Services Director
and Board of Education.
I serve on the Parks and Recreation sub -committee for the Robbinsdale Community
Education Advisory Council and since the Wayzata School District is beginning
to form its Community Education Services Department, to my knowled9e no
appointments have been made to this Advisory Council.
In the past, staff has served on the Advisory Council with the City Council
representative responsible for attending the Certificate of Compliance meetings
briefed with staff input. To my knowledge, Councilmember Neils represents the
City with the Robbinsdale District whereas Councilmember Davenport will represent
the City with the Wayzata District.
Staff believes it appropriate to develop and communicate to School Districts a
policy stating that Communities. can not be expected. to pick up and offer extra,
curricular after hours programs being curtailed by the respective Boards of
Education and that; it would be appropriate to look to the Community Education
Services Department of the respective Districts to continue with the program
utilizing user fees and Community Education Levies as alternate funding sources..
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Director of Parks and. Recreation
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CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BLVD., PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55441
TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
DATE: November 28, 1979
MEMO
TO: PRAC
FROM-. Jon J Born
SUBJECT., Public Information Plan
The consultants believe that the Public Information Program will be available
for the PRACs' recommendation and Councils` acceptance in December, 1979..
As an educational tool, the Programs effectiveness is maximized when presented
to a. group of interested citizens. To that end, T recommend that the Program
be presented to Home Owners Associations, Special Interest Groups and Community
Service Organizations. I suggest that a letter be sent to the above noted.
groups announcing the Program and the availability of the FRAC along with a
Councilmember for presentation purposes. Refer to Exhibit A which identifies
organizations which may be interested in the: Program.
I recommend that the brochure be made available for posting in each of the
schools in Plymouth and that the Welcome Wagon receive copies for distribution
to new Plymouth residents..
Presentations can be scheduled and coordinated through the Parks and Recreation
Department. I recommend that: the Public Information; Program subcommittee; work
with staff in coordinating the presentation and developing a listing of questions/
answers to stimulate directed/guided discussion of the slide program with the
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Jon j Bo rn
Director of Parks and Recreation
Michael Bilcalo
Amber Woods H.O.A.
3510 Urbandale Lane
Plymouth, Mr 55341
Qobert Scribner
ALAC
2015 Medicine Lake Road
Plymouth, MN55441
Kim Keenan
Bass- lake Improvement. Assoc
12.116 54th Avenue N.
Plymouth, Mt 55442
C. K. Ornburg
Birchwood Estates Homeowners
16405 5th Avenue N.
Plymouth, MN 55391
Larry Graham
Birch Valley H.O.A.
5315 Goldenrod Lane
Plymouth, M1 55441
Kathy Barnes
Chelsea Mews H.A.A.
8Ol Yuma Lane
lymouth, MN 55391
Bonnie Hackner
Chelsea Woods Homeowners.
1.635 Black Oaks Place
Plymouth, MN 55391
Betty Haas
Cimarron Ponds H.O.A.
1024 Zanzibar Lane
mouth, MN 55391
ee Lovi sol o
Creekwood Heights Citizens
12710 - 26th Avenue. N.
Plymouth, MI 55441
Bill Dittmore
Ferndale North H.O.A.
425 Zircon Lane
Plymouth, MN 55391.
Richard Hargarten
6reentree West H.O.A.
2935 Xanthus Lane
Rly uth, NN 55391
S. A Knapp
Greentree West. H.O.A.
2825 Alvarado Lane
Plymouth., MN 553%1
James M.. Olson
Greentree West H.O.A.
2860 Alvarado Lane
Plymouth, MN 55391
J(V Cosentino
Hadley Hills Honrzrkhers
1200 Vagabond Lan -
Plymouth, MN 55391
Joel Fleming
Imperial Hills H.O.A.
18125 - 19th Avenue N.
Plymouth, MN 55391
Dan Speace
Imperial Hills H.O.A.
1815 Shadyview Circle
Plymouth, MN 55391
Connie, L. Scott
Ivanhoe Woods Go-Betweens
404 Union Terrace N.
Plymouth, MN 55441
James Hand
Lost Lake Homeowners
10515 40th Avenue N.
Plymouth, MN 55442
Jo Gabrielson
Mapledell H.O.A.
274.1 Comstock Lane
Plymouth, MN 55391
John. DeSanto
Meadowood H.O.A.
2730 Queensland Lane
Plymouth, MVV 55391
James Olson
Mid -Plymouth Property Owners
3820 Fernbrook Lane
Plymouth, MN 55441
Thomas Berg
Middle East Homeowners
3820 T vnton Lane
Plymouth, MN' 55441
John Hatlestad
Northeast Parker's Lake F
14515 17th Avenue N.
Plymouth, MN 55441
Robert Johnson
Oakwood Hills Homeowners
1815 Merrimac Lane.
Plymouth, MN 55391
Ralph Goodwin
Pinetree Pond Homeowners
1430 Ranier Lane
Plymouth, MN 55391
Gerald Wilson
Pineview Homeowners
540 Pineview Lane N.
Plymouth, MN 55391
Robert E. Tetzloff
Schmidt Lake Woods H.O.A.
5160 Goldenrod Lane
Plymouth, MN 55442
George Wray
Shenandoah H.O.A.
2733 Shenandoah Lane
Plymouth, MN 55391
Fred Jahnke
Shorewood Hills H.O.A.
5940 Kirkwood Circle
Plymouth, MN 55442
Harry R. Foster
Sun Valley Mobile Some Pat
10717 - 10th Avenue N.
Plymouth, MN 55441
Tiburon H.O.A.
Marcia. Bredlow
3488 Pilgrim Lane N.
Plymouth, MN 55441
Rick Brandt
Tri -Comm H.O.A.
2620 Fountain Lane
Plymouth, MN 55391
Carol Neumann
Tri -Comm H.O.A.
16810 28th Avenue N.
Plymouth, MIN 55391
Vale -Hoff Homeowners
5625 Evergreen Lane N.
Plymouth.,MN 55442
Jia Guddai
Vicksburg Lane Homeowners
4465 Vicksburg Lane
Plymouth, MN 55340
Jeff Schachtman
Wood Creek H.O.A.
3205 N. Wellington Lane
Plymouth, MN 55441
Mary Glemmings
Zachary Lane Homeowners
4200 Yorktown Lane.
Plymouth, MIN 55442
Sue Weber
7708 Viewcrest Lane.
New Hope, MN 55427
ATHLETIC ASSOCIATIONS
Plymouth Athletic Association
Jim Alt
3805 N. Trenton Lane
Plymouth, Minn. 544-6908
Wayzata: Youth Football/Basketball
645 Harmony Circle
Wayzata, Minn. 55391 473-4667
Wayzata. Youth Soccer
Dick Br gen, President
2115 Xanthus Lane
Plymouth, Minn. 55391 473-1147
Wayzata Baseball/Softball Association
Ed Ginsbach, President
15610 5th Ave. No.
Wayzata, Minn. 55391 473-3810
Wayzata Youth Hockey Association
Ron Crowell
16910 24 Ave. No.
Wayzata, Minn. 55391 473-1875.
3400 PLYMOUTH BLVD., PLYMOUTH,, MINNESOTA 55441
TELEPHONE(612) 559-2800
DATE. November 28, 1979
MEMO
10: PRAC
FROM: Jon; J. Born, Director of Parks and Recreation
SUBJECT: County Road 15 Bikeway Grants
The 1980 Parks Capital Improvement Program; contemplates the development of a
Bikeway System along County Road 15 extending from Vicksburg Lane to County
Road 73 for an estimated cost. of $500,000. The net cost to the City of Plymouth
has been calculated at $250,000.
In 1977, Council accepted a feasibility report which proposed a detached Bike
Path on the north side of County Road 15 extending from Vicksburg Lane to
Interstate: 494. Local funds for the project were available but matching funds
from Hennepin County could not be acquired and the project was not undertaken
Enai'neer Project File #708).,_
Council accepted a feasibility report in 1979 which proposes 1.) a detached
Bike Path on the north side of County Road 15 extending from Vicksburg Lane to
Interstate 494 and 2.) an eight foot wide Bike Lane on each side of County
Road 15 extending from Interstate 494 to County Road 73. Costs for this
combined. project areestimated at $316,700, exclusive of any Right -of -Way
acquisition. Staff was directed by Council to explore alternate funding sources
and has identified two funding sources which will be able to assist in this
project's developmental costs.
On November 14, 1979, the City Engineer (Fred (Fred Moore), Engineering Consultants
Jim Olson) and I met with representatives of Hennepin County Department of
Transportation (Jim: Wold and Dennis Hanson) and a representative from the
Minnesota Department of Transportation (Nancy Mahle) to review the project and
identify alternate sources of funding assistance.
It appears that there will be adequate funding available to assist the City
of Plymouth in defrayingr construction costs and in some instances the -engin-
eering costs. Nancy Mahle (Minnesota Department of Transportation) can give:
a funding comrattment for 1980; for a portion of the total project. She
indicated t,foat additional funds would be available in 1981 to complete the
project. Jim Wold (Hennepin County Transportation; Department) said that his
agency will accept the City's application for funding and wil.1 do what it can
to provide funding for the project.
The City Engineer and I recommend splitting the project into two phases with
the easterly segment (494 to Co. 73) being completed in 1980 along with the
Pineview Co. 15 intersection and the westerly segment completed (494 to Vicks
berg Lane) in 1981.Alternate funding sources, allocations and eligible
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expenses are as. follows.
1980 MN DOT Henn. Co. City Total
Constr. 116,475 19,412 1.9,413 155,300
Engr. 0 - 16,100 16,100 3 32,200
Sub Total 116,475 35,512 535,513 5187,500
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Constr. 80,250 13,315 13,375 107,000
Engr. 0 - 511000 11,100 22,200
Sub Total 80,250 24,475 24,475 129,200
Project
Total 196,725 59,987 59,988 316,700
Nancy Mahle will be forwarding to the City a formal funding comnittment for
1980 and I am submitting a funding request to Hennepin County Transportation
Department for funding assistance in 1980 and )981. With the completion of
a successful funding package, the City of Plymouth will have an expenditure
far less than is estimated in the 1980-84 Parks Capital Improvement Program.
Jon J. Born
Director of Parks and Recreation
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CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BLVD., PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55441
TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
DATE: November 28, 1979
MEMO
TO: PRAC
FROM: Jon: J.. Born
SUBJECT: Playfield Development Assistance
Councilmember Davenport, City Manager Willis and I have met with a representative
of the; Minnesota Army National. Guard and have forwarded correspondence to the
U.S. Army Reserve Egnineering Battalion in hopes of securing grading and eLrth
moving assistance for the proposed playfields.
it is the desire of the City that the improvements be undertaken in the late
spring and summer of 1980. Based upoi, time, equipment and manpower restrictions,
it may be possible to undertake and complete one site. It appears that the
Qakwcod School Site is ideal from the Guard's viewpoint relative to size of site,
scope of project, capabilities of the unit, public visibility and training
exposure for Ctard, personnel.
The National Guard is a combat unit with limited capabilities for major earth
movirg and fine, grading and the: Army Reserve in an Engineering unit with fine
grading capabilities. The City is attempting to coordinate both units to achieve
both rough and fine grading to the: sites..
Every effort will be made to appraise the PRAC as negotiations proceed.
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CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BLVD., PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55441
TELEPHONE. (612) 559-2800
DATE:: November 28, 1979
MEMO
TO: PRAC
FROM: Jon J. Born
SUBJECT: Plymouth Athletic Association - Len Thiede
Mr. Thiede, a Plymouth citizen and a Plymouth Athletic Association Officer has
requested time on the December PRAC agenda.
Persons requesting an appearance on the PRA% agenda are normally placed ahead
of general topics. In this instance, Mr. Thiede has indicated to me that he
will be late in arriving at the meeting and has been placed at the end of the
agenda.
Mr. Thiede will discuss the Plymouth Athletic Association/New Hope Athletic.
Association relationships and status of joint athletic programming.
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CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH, BLVD., PLYMOUTH, MI ANESOTA 55441
TELEPHONE (612) 559-2600
DATE: November 28, 1979
TO: PRAC
FROM: Jon J. Born
SUBJECT, January Agenda. Topics.
I. propose that the January, 1980 agenda be devoted to discussing and working on
tete fallowing items
PRAC Charge and goals.
Review of existing policies for adequacy and suegestions for additions or
deletions which may be necessary in light of cnanging conditions.
Outline of FRAC operations in 1980..
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Jon J. Born
Director of Parks and Recreation
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CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH, BLVD., PLYMOUTH, MI ANESOTA 55441
TELEPHONE (612) 559-2600
DATE: November 28, 1979
TO: PRAC
FROM: Jon J. Born
SUBJECT, January Agenda. Topics.
I. propose that the January, 1980 agenda be devoted to discussing and working on
tete fallowing items
PRAC Charge and goals.
Review of existing policies for adequacy and suegestions for additions or
deletions which may be necessary in light of cnanging conditions.
Outline of FRAC operations in 1980..
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Jon J. Born
Director of Parks and Recreation
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING; OF
PLYMOUTH PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY` COMMISSION
November 8, 1979
let.a regular meeting of the Plymouth Park and Recreation Advisory Commission was
called to order by Chairman Rice at 7:33 p.
m, on November 8, 1979 in the
Conference Room of the City of Plymouth.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT;: Brass, Chesebrough, Mullan, Threinnn, Rice, Johnson., E&ards
COMiISSIONERS ABSENT; Terry , Gudda.l , Christian, Hanson
OTHERS PRESENT: Jane Thorston, Recreation Specialist for the City of
Plymouth, Alan. Ziska, Doug Kesatie
Goal's Statemen, - PRAC Charge
oma; ssioner CfiesebiTRgF presented and discussed his draft. of a; Statement of
Coals in which eleven Goals were drawn up with a corresponding objective and the
procedures for implementation.
Com, issioners indicated a concern for the number of committees but felt it
appropriute to develop and work on Goals in 1980. The Commissioners felt that the
Charge and Goals are relevant a!d important and in subsequent years only annual
revisions will need to be made.
Chairman Rice requested that Commissioners Chesebrough and. Edwards work with the
Director to refine and discuss the Goals.
Topic Discussion Format
Director Born presented and revi'e'wed the staff report.outlining .PRAT; agenda Topic
and Discussion format. The PRAC believed that a format will assist agenda topics
discussion and decision making,. The PRAC believes that reviewing the ag,nda.
packet the weekend preceeding the meeting will allow for sufficient review and
will assure that. the Commission will be ready to discuss the topics. Chairman
Rice requested that items requiring PRAC action be placed:fi'rst on the
agenda followed by Information items.
Recreation Program Ideas and Su estions
Dector orn presented and reviewed the staff report presenting a summary of'
recreation programs to be offered during the Winter Session (1979-80). Jane
Thorston Recreation Specialist;, discussed in detail the programs to be offered.:
New programs. include Self Defense, Jazz and Modern Dance. Racquetball will no
longer be offered at the Court House in Golden Valley but instead will be offered
at the new Plymouth RacquetUall Club. An overnight winter retreat for families
will be offe,ed in February at Lyman Lodge. In the Spring a jogging clinic may
be offered whicn would utilize the Luce Line Trail. Staff solicited ideas from
0e Commissioners of facilities that may be available for the Department to usr;
in offering additional daytime/evening Programs.
Chairman Rice requested that staff review for the PRAC each quarter the. Programs
whish will be vt'fered for the upcoming program.along with an update of the
Recreation Program from the previous quarter with the intent being to track
diverse neods _alono oith diverse locations:
Recreation Pronyam Polic Community Education
Director Boms'presented an .reviewe t e staff report discussing recreation
program policy relative to after school hours programs and Community Education
Services Departments. Director Born stated that because of budget restrictions
and limitations being placed upon General Fund Budgets, the respective school
districts have to curtail programs for after hours extra curricu ar acti'viti`es.
Also, municipalit,es are, looked upon as the agency most appropriate to provide
continuation of these services.
Director Born stated: Lhat the Plymouth Parks and Recreation Department is not
equipped, staffed or financed; to be able to offer a continuation of services
being deleted from the extra curricular activities offered by the respective school
districts.
Director Born recommended that:.
The Plymouth Park and Recreation Department work closely with the respective
school districts in program planning, development and implementation so as.
to avoid unnecessary duplication.
When feasible, school districts and the Plymouth Park and Recreation Department
cooperatively and jointly sponsor recreation programs.
o, When the school districts curtail extra curricular activities their respective
Community Education Services Departments continue to offer the activities
through the use. of Coirmunity Education levies and user fees
Motion by Commissioner Threinen, second by Commissioner Johnson to approve the
first recommendation. Motion by Commissioner Mullan, second; by Commissioner
Johnson to approve: staff's second recommendation. Motion carried. Motion
by Commissioner Threinen, second by Chariman Rice to amend the recommendation
stating "The Department and a_PRAC representative Mork closely with the respective
school districts in program planning, development and implementation so as to
avoid unnecessary duplication.,
PRAC requested.that staff's third recommendation be made as an agenda item to be
discussed at the December meeting and that Cave Davenport be asked to attend
this meeting to help with discussion relating to Community Education levies.
Standardization of Park Fixtures and Facilities
Director Born presented and reviewed a staff report recouty nding the adoption of
standardized specifications for selected fixtures and facilities which will
provide for uniformity and: economy of maintenance and repairs..
Motion by Commissioner Chesebrough, second by Commissioner Brass to endorse the
proposed standards. Motion carried.
Neighborhood Park Identification and Parks Plannin
Director Born 'presentee and reviewed ,e staff report discussing the Neighborhood
Park Identification and Parks Planning.
Motion by Commissioner Chesebrough, second by Commissioner Threinen to endorse the
Neighborhood Park Identification and Parks report with an amendment to staff
recommendation #4 that plans be administered with "reasonable uniformity
Motion carried.
Projection of Neighborhood.Park Sizes
Directoro rn presentee and
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v e3Mthe. staff report discussing the projections
and recommendations for Neighborhood Park Sizes.
Amendment by Chairman Rice, second by Commissioner Briss to amend staff`s recommend-
ation by recommending that"at. this time the PRAC believes that the following
on carrieo.
Motion by Commissioner Brass,, second by Commissioner Mullan to endorse staff's
recommendations as revised by PRAC. Motion carried.
harsh -We lands Dedication
erector Born prese6teT and reviewed the staff report which recommends:
1. The, policy be continued of not giving credit for dedication of marsh -
wetlands for public park purposes.
2. Future marsh -wetland Open Space Natural Areas be confined to Community
Parks
3. When Community Parks which have Marsh -Wetlands are developed, trails and
paths shoul.d be developed so as to allow for expanded user enjoyment
of the natural resources.
Amendment. by Chairman Rice, second by Commissioner Chesebrough to defer endorse-
ment of staff's second recomnenda;tion until further information can be presented
relating to ownership options should marsh -wetlands not be used by the. City for
park or ponding purposes. Amendment carried..
Motion by Chairman Rice, second by Commissioner Threinen to endorse staff's,
recommendations relating to park dedication and trail development. Motion carried,.
Downtown Plymouth Walkways
Director Born introduced and discussed the staff report recommending the
adoption of a Downtown Plymouth Walkway Plan so as to facilitate; the planning
process. Director Born responded questions related to goals and terminology.
Motion made by Commissioner Threinen to endorse staff's recommendation with the
term "walking" changed to "sidewalk". Seconded by Commissioner Brass.. Motion
carried.
Being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 10:30 p.m..
PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING.
THURSDAY, DECEMBER 6 1979'
CITY OF PLYMOUTH
J, 3400 PLYMOUTH BLVD.. PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55441
TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
DATE! November 28 1979 MEMO
TO: FRAC
FROM: Jon J. Born, Director of Parks and. Recreation
SUBJECT: Plymouth Junior Highschool Hockey Rink
The proposal to improve the Plymouth Junior Highschool hockey rink does not appeartobefinanciallyorlogisticallyfeasiblein1979.
On September 10, 1979. the Plymouth City Council appropriated $7,000 to be expendedtoimprovethehockeyrink, lights and install a warming house structure on thePlymouthJuniorHighschoolsite. The original plans contemplated leasing a. construction trailer to serve as a warming house.. Council expressed concerns that
no construction trailer was to be rented if heated by propane. Reservations were
expressed by others about the advisability of leasing a construction trailer, due
to potential vandalism and the incidence of liability for property other thantheCity's.. A structure L:-a,ted by electricity of the type to be solid, highly staLle andresistant, to vandalism and low in maintenance costs can be achieved in one of twoways. One method is to fabricate a temporary unit which is removed after every
season and a second method is to install a structure similar to tEose at PilgrimLane. Bidgemount and Oakwood. Costs are estimated at approximately $1,200 for thetemporaryunitandover $3,000 for the garage unit.
The Robbinsdale School District approved the request to improve the rink withlightingandtoinstallawarminghouseonthesiteprovidedthatthe4tilities
are metered separately from the school. The Board of Education indicated thatallplansshouldbecoordinatedwithMr. Robert Grunsted, Principal of Plymouth. Junior Highschool. Mr. Grunsted's concerns related to separate utility metering, location of the warming house in relation to activity use areas and undergroundwiringsoasnottodisruptactivityareas. He indicated that it would be accept- able with him to use the school structure for the electrical source and installaseparatemeterbetroeentheschoolandtherink. Eights and warming house. Locating the warmingL house as chose to the rink as possible is desirable withMr, Grunsted and Mr. Severud (Athletic Director). Mr. Kleinbeck (City of PlymouthBuildingOfficial') stated that a distance of 30 feet should exist between the
existing yard hydrant on the school grounds and any structure placed on thegrounds.
Mr. Israelson of Northern States Power stated that double metering of a site is
not permissible and that a projected usage schedule will have to be prepared by theCityandsubmittedtoNSPforreviewtoascertainconstructioncosts. Ne furtherindicatedthattheconstructionseasonforplacingundergroundlinesteinatesonOctober1ofanyyearandifinstalledafterthatdateonextrafeeperfootislevied. Mr. Israelson also stated that NSP will need a detailed site plan illus- trating facility location as well as an easement from the School District corres. ponding to the proposed line location.
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I have discussed this issue with Mr. Lorin Stern of the Plymouth Athletic Associa-
tion and because: of costs and logistics I believe that the. project can not be
undertaken in 1979.as proposed.: If improvement of the facility is to become a
reality, additional work needs to be done on the proposal to refine expenses and
logistics., I recommend that the proposal to improve the. Plymouth Junior highschool
hockey rink and lights be withdrawn for resubmission at a later date when the
issues of costs and logistics can be more adequately addressed.
As alternatives, it appears the rink and schoolcan be used at Armstrong Senior
Highschool as was done in 1978-79. A second alternative woul'd.be to spend funds
to reconstruct the rink at. La Compte Green Park where a warminghouse and lighting
currently exists and where a rink is proposed as part of Playfield development.
Representatives of the Plymouth Athletic Association have stated that these sites
are not suitable for Plymouth Athletic Association purposes.
On October 19, 1979, the Plymouth City Council directed that the question of
expenditures for hockey facilities in 1980 be referred to the PRAC for review and
recommendation..
Between the Plymouth Athletic Association and the Wayzata. Youth, Hockey Association,
there are approximately 470 Plymouth players with 520 Plymouth players projected for
1980. Plymouth's population is estimated, at approximately 30,000 persons. Facility
standards indicate a ratio of l hockey rink per 3,000 population for a present need
of 10 hockey rinks. Currently there are eight rinks located within the City
thereby resulting in a net deficiency of two rinks (See Exhibit. C). The eighth
rink is at Armstrong senior Highschool and is not adequate for Plymouth Athletic
Association purposes. The Wayzata group has 5`rinks and 1 indoor arena for 470
players whereas, there is only one sp,itoble rink in Plymouth for 85 Plymouth
Athletic Association players and it can not be used the entire time for the Asso-
ciation. Because of neighborhood pressures, the Pilgrim Lane Hockey Rink will be
available for Plymouth Athletic Association use only on Monday, Tuesday, Thursday
and Saturdays.
Developmental. costs of approximately $27,830 for a new hockey facility are item-
ized as follows,.
Rink $8,000 Contingency (1:5%) $3,,300
Lighting $10,000 Engineering (10%) $2.530
Warminghouse $4,000
Operational costs of a hockey facility on a seasonal basis are. estimated at
2,000 to include electricity, heating and attendants.
From 1978 until 1980, 'the City of Plymouth has contributed $2,000 annually to the
Wayzata. Youth Hockey Association for Capital Improvements to rinks serving that
Hockey Association.
It is my opinion that there is a deficiency of two hockey facilities in the
east central area of the City with avera9e development costs estimated.at approx-
imately $27,830 per site with annual operational costs estimated at $2,000 per,
site.
Options to resolving the hockey rink deficiency include;
constructing rinks as per the adopted C.I.P. with a referendum or
constructing rinks utilizing Plymouth Athletic Association assistance where
possible
I believe it appropriate to consider the development of two rinks at the Plymouth
Junior Highschool site with adequate lighting and a warming house in 1980. As
a means to, maximize construc.ti'on economies, I recommend that the Plymouth Athletic.
Association be encouraged to assist where possible with site development. I
further recommend that the Robbinsdale School District and the Plymouth Junior
Highschool Principal be presented with this proposed so at to facilitate early
development. Should the District not agree with the proposal for both rinks, I
recommend developing a rink and improving the lights at La Compte Green Park as
is contemplated in the Playfield plans..
It is appropriate for the PRAC to respond to Councils' request to recommend
hockey rink expenditures for 1980 and endorse staffs` recommendation for rink
development.
J J. Born
Director of Parks and Recreation
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CiTY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BLVD., PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55441
TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
DATE, November 28, 1979
TO, PRAC
FROM: Jon J. Born
SUBJECT; Public information Plan
MEMO
The consultants believe that the Public Information Program will be available
for the PRACs' recommendation and Councils' acceptance in December, 1979.
As an educationaltool:, the Proyrams effectiveness is maximized.when presented
I'M a group of interested citizens. To that end, I recommend that the Program
be presented to Home Owners Associations, Special Interest Croups and Community
Service organizations. I suggest that a letter be: sent to the above noted
groups announcing the Program and the availability of the PRAC along with a.
Councilmember for presentation purposes. Refer to Exhibit A which identifies
organizations which may be interested' in the Program.
I recommend that the brochure be made available for pasting in each of the
schools in Plymouth and that the Welcome flagon receive co?ies for distribution
to new Plymouth residents
Presentations can be scheduled and coordinated through the Parks and Recreation.
Department.. I recommend that the Public Information Program subcommittee work.
with staff in coordinating the presentation and developing a listing of questions/
answers to stimulate directed/guided discussion of the slide program with the
viewers.
Jon J. Born
Director of Parks and Recreation
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S. A. Knapp
West H.O A.
John Hatlestad'
Northeast Parker's Lake F3510Urbandale. Lane 2825 Alvarado Lane 1451.5 - 1:7th Avenue N. Plymouth, NN 55391 Plymouth:, MN 553%1 Plymouth, MN 55441
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James M. Olson Robert Johnson.
2015 Nedicine lake Road
Greentree West H.O.A.;
2860 Alvarado Lane Oakwood Hills Homeowners
1815Plymouth,- MN 55441 Plymouth, MN 55391
Merrimac. Lane:
Plymouth, MN 55391
Kim Keenan
Bass Lake improvement Assoc.
Joe Cosentino
Hadley Hills: Homeowners
Ralph Goodwin
Pinetree Pond Homeowners12116 -54th Avenue. N.
Plymouth, MN 55442
1200 Vagabond Lane
Plymouth, MN 55391
1430 Ranier Lane
Plymouth, MN 55391.
C. X. Ornburg
Birchwood Estates Ho6*owners Joel Fleming
Imperial Hills H.O.A.
Gerald Wilson
Pineview Homeowners16405 - 5th Avenue N. 18125 - 19th Avenue N. 540 Pineview Lane N. Plymouth,, MN 55391 Plymouth.,, ,MN 55391 Plymouth, MN 55391'
Larry Graham
Sircn Valley H.O.A.
Dan Speace
Imperial Hills H.O.A.
Robert. E. ietziotf
Schmidt Lake Woods. H.O.A. 5315 Goldenrod Lane 1815 Shadyview Circle 5160 Goldenrod LanePlymouth, MN 55441 Plymouth, MN 55391. Plymouth, MN 55442
Kathy Barnes
Chelsea dews H.O.A.
Connie L. Scott
Ivanhoe Woods Go-Betweens George Wray
Shenandoah H.O.A. ANDI Yuma Lane 404 Union Terrace N. 2733 Shenandoah maneymouth. MN 55391 Plymouth, MN 55441 Plymouth, MN' 55391
Bonnie Hackner James Hand Fred JahnkeChelseaWoodsHomeownersLostLakeHomeownersShorewoodHills H.O.A.. 1635 Black Oaks Place 1051.5 - 40th Avenue N. 5940 Ki-rkwood CirclePlymouth, HN 55391 Plymouth, MN 55442 Plymouth, MN 55442
Betty Haas Jo Gabrielson Harry R. FosterCimarronPondsH.O.A.
1024 Zanzibar Lane
Mapledell H.O.A.
2741 Comstock Lane Sun Valley Mobile Home Pay
Plymouth, MN 55391 Plymouth, MN 55391
10717 - 10th. Avenue N.
Plymouth, MN 55441
Lee Lovisolo John DeSanto Tiburon H.O.A. Creekwood Heights Citizens Meadowood.H.O.A. Mrcia Bredlow12710 - 26th Avenue N.. 2730 Queensland Lane 3488 Pilgrim Lane N. Plymouth, MN 55441 Plymouth, MN 55391 Plymouth, MN 55441
Bi11 Oittmore James Olson Rick BrandtFerndaleNorthH.O.A. Mid -Plymouth Property Owners Tri -Comm H.O.A. 425 Zircon Lane 3820 Fernbrook Lane 2620 Fountain LanePlymouth, MN 55391 Plymouth, MN 55441 Plymouth, MN 55391
chard: Fla,arten Thomas Berg Carol Neumann
tree'Wast H.O.A. Middle East Homeowners Tri -Conn H.O.A. Lane 3820 Trenton Lane 16810 - 28th Avenue N. Plynouth, MN 55391 Plymouth, MN 55441 Plymouth, MN 55391
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5625 E"rgreen, Lane, N.
Plymouth's W 55442
Iim Suddol
Vicksburg Lane Haimowners
4465 Vicksburg Lane
Plymouth, MN 55340
Jeff Schachtman
Wood Creek H.O.A.
3205, N. Wellington Lane
Plymouth,, MN 55441
Oary Glemings
Zachary Lane Homeowners
4200 Yorktown Lane,
PjymDuthq IMN $5442
Sue Weber
7708 Vfewcrest Lane
New Hope, MN 55427
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ATHLETIC ASSOCIATIONS
Plymouth Athletic Association
Jim Alt
3805" N. Trenton Lane
Plymouth, Minn.. 544-6908
Wayzata Youth Football/Basketball
C45 Harmony Circle
Wayzata, Minn. 55391 473-4667
Wayzata.Youth Soccer
Dick Bogen, President
2115 Xanthus Lane
Plymouth, Minn. 55391 473-1147
Wayzata Baseball/Softball Association
Ed Ginsbach, President
156.10 5th Ave. No..
Wayzata, Minn. 55391 473-3810
Wayzata. Youth Hockey Association
Ron Crowell
16910 24 Ave. No..
Wayzata, Minn. 55391 473-1875
C0IIMW CLI)BSS AND ORGANIZATIONS
A.A. Alcoholics Anonymous N.W. Suburban Business and2300HighwayX55ProfessionalWomen's ClubPlymouth., MM 55441 President: Karen CuCharmePhone # 553-1315 Phone # 535-5113
Boy Scouts of Amr,ca, Plymouth Civic: League : Plymouth, MN 18124 24th AvenueContact-: Chet Hbkn Plymouth, MN 55441Phone # 559-5103 President: Dick Beal
Campfire girls Vice President.: Gordy Holm
540 E. Grant St. Phone # 475-3781
Mpls, M 55404 Phone 933-2401
Contact: Mrs. Carol. Schmidt Plymouth JayceesPhare0925-0205 Duncan. Wallace Phone # 484-0055
Garden Clubs Rod Hillstrom. Phone # 545-8094
Bead Heights Carden Club Plymouth Lions
President: Marge. Krohnfeldt 305 Trenton Lane
Prone 546-1071 Plymouth, MN 55441
Medicine Lake Garden. Club President: Mery B. Jerke
Phone # 473-1946President: Esther Hcard
l~hone # 545-6548 Plymouth Optimists Club
Girl Scouts of America 400 So. Co. Rd., 18
Plymouth, MN 55426GreaterMpls. Girl Scout Council. President: Frank Renshaw200Gorham. Bldg
127 No 7th St. Phone # 544-5655 5yy- 3655Mpls, MN 55403'
Phone # 338-0721 Plymouth Polars ( Snowmobile ClubR1y -Contact: Charlotte Juhnk- President:. Steve IshamPhone # 544-4329
Contact: Dolly or Dick Burns
TIAN AlUML PATROL SERVICESPhone 473-1887D5061MFMW
0rth Plymouth Republican Women's Club55441President: 339- 66 Phone:
Northwest Metropolitan Chamber of Commerce Plymouth Welcome Wagon715FloridaAvenue. South Linda CalleSuite215Phone # 473-4757GoldenValley, i
President: Medard B. Kaishershot West Med. Lk, Community ClubManager: Low' Schiebe 1705 Foy^estview LanePhone # 544--8439 Mr. or Mr. Le Clair
Phone # 559-5498
DATE:
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FROM:
CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BLVD., PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55441
TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
November 28, 1979 MEMO
PRAC
Jon J. Born, Director of Parks and Recreation
SUBJECT: County Road 15 Bikeway Grants
The 1480 Parks Capital. Improvement Program contemplates the development of a
Bikeway System along County Road 15 extending from Vicksbui^g Lane to County
Road 73 for an estimated cost of $500,000. The net cost to the City of Plymouth
has been calculated at $250,000.
In 1977, Council accepted a feasibility report which proposed.a detached Bike
Path on the north side of County Road 15 extending from Vicksburg Lane to
Interstate 494. Local funds for the project were available but matching funds
from Hennepin County could not be acquired and the: project was not undertaken
Engineer Project File #708).
Council accepted a feasibility report in 1979 which proposes 1.) a detached
Bike Path on the north side of County Road 15 extending from Vicksburg Lane to
Interstate 494 and 2..) an eight root wide Bike Lane on each side of County
Road 15 extending from Interstate 494 to County Road 73. Costs for this
combined, project are estimated at $316,700, exclusive of any Right -of -Wayacquisition. Staff was directed by Council to explore alternate funding sources
and has identified two funding sources which will be able to assist in this
project's developmental costs.
On November 14, 1979, the ''ity Engineer (Fred Moore), Engineering Consultants
Jim Olson) and I met with representatives of Hennepin County Department of
Transportation (Jim Wold and Dennis Hanson) and a representative from the
Minnesota Department. of Transportation (Nancy Mahle) to review the project andjidentifyalternatesourcesoffundingassistance.
It appears that there will be adequate funding available to assist the City
of Plymouth in defraying construction costs and in some instances the engin-
eering costs. Nancy Mahle (Minnesota Department of Transportation) can: give
a funding committment for 1980 for a portion of the total project. She
indicated that additional funds would be available in 1981 to complete the
project. Jim Wold (Hennepin County Transportation Department) said that his
agency will accept the City's application for funding and will do what it can
to- provide funding for the project.
The City Engineer and I recommend splitting the project into two phases with
the easterly segment (494 to Co. 73) being completed in 1980 along with theiPineviewCo`. intersection and the westerly segment completed (494 to Vicks-
r berg Lane) in 1981. Alternate funding sources, allocations and eligible
expenses. are, as follows.
1981) MN DOT Henn. Co. City Total
Constr. 116,475 19,412 19,41.3 155,300
sngr. 0 - 16,100 16,100 32,200
Sub Total 116,475 35,512 35,513 187,500
1981
Constr. 80;250 13,375 13,375 107,000
Engr. 0 - 11,,100 1.1,100 22,200
Sub Total 80,250 24,475 24,475 129,200
Project
Total 195 ,,K t59,987 X59,98$ 316,700
Nancy Mahle wil"l be forwarding to the.: City a formal funding committment for
1980 and T am submitting a funding request to Hennepin County Transportation
Department for funding assistance in 1930 and 1981. Wit's the completion of
a successful funding package, the City of Plymouth will have an expenditure
far less than is estimated in the 1980-84 Parks Capital Improvement Program.
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Jon J. Born
Director of Parks. and Recreation
CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BLVD., PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55441
TELEPHONE (612) 55;-2800
DATE; november 28, 1979
MEMO
TO PRAC
FROM; Jon. J. Born
SUBJECT: Plymouth Athletic Association Len Thiede
Mr. Thiede, a Plymouth citizen and a Plymouth Athletic Association Officer has
requested time on the December PRAC agenda.
Persons requesting an appearance. on the PRAC agenda avT normally placed ahead
of general topics.. In this instance, Mr. Thiede has indicated to me that he
will be late in arriving at the meeting and has, been placed at the end of the
agenda.
Mr. Thiede will discuss the Plymouth Athletic Association/Near Hope Athletic:
Asso;iation relationships and status of joint athletic programming.
JonJ. Born
Direc;.or of Parks and Recreation
CITY OF PLYMOUTH,
3400 PLYMOUTH BLVD., PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55441
TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
MO
GATE:November 28, 1979
TO: PRAC
FRONT;:" Jon J, Born
SUBJECT: January Agenda Topics
I'.propose that the January, 1980 agenda be devoted to discussing and working on
the •following items.
FRAC Charge and goals
Review of existing policies for adequacy and suggestions for additions or
deletions which may be necessary in light of cnangi;ng condition
Outline of BRAC operations in 1980.
Jon J. Born
Director of Parks and Recreation