HomeMy WebLinkAboutCouncil Information Memorandum 12-27-1985CITY COUNCIL INFORMATIONAL MEMORANDUM
December 27, 1985
UPCOMING MEETINGS AND EVENTS.....
1. COUNCIL VACANCY APPOINTMENT INTERVIEWS -- Monday, December 30.
Interviews to fill the Council vacancy will begin at 6:15 p.m. in
the Council Conference room. Prior to the interviews, the Council
will meet at 5:45 p.m. to establish questions which will be asked of
the four candidates. The interviews are scheduled as follows:
6:15 -
7:00
p.m.
- Dean Barkley
7:00
- 7:45
p.m.
- Bob Zitur
7:45 -
8:00
p.m
- Break
8:00 -
8:45
p.m.
- Bim Sentman
8:45 -
9:30
p.m.
- Eric Foss
2. NEW YEAR'S HOLIDAY -- City Offices will be closed Wednesday, January
SEMINARS FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS -- The League of Minnesota Cities and
Government Training Service will once again present the Conference
for Newly Elected Officials. The Conference is scheduled for
Saturday, January 25 at the Sheraton Midway Hotel in St. Paul, and
will speak primarily to newly elected officials; however, any
incumbent elected official may attend. The Government Training
Service has also scheduled for Friday, January 24, two seminars for
elected officials, "Serving Your Constitutents (While Saving Your
Sanity)", and "Economic Development: What Make Sense For Your
City?". Copies of the brochures describing the conference and
seminars are attached for your review. Please contact Laurie if
you desire to be registered for any or all of the seminars. (M-3)
4. MUNICIPAL LEGISLATIVE COMMISSION -- The annual meeting of the MLC
will be held on Wednesday, January 15 at the Decathlon Club in
Bloomington. The Board of Directors will be meeting from 5:00 to
6:00 p.m., with a social hour/dinner commencing at 6:15 p.m. All
legislators representing communities affiliated with the MLC will be
invited to attend this social hour/dinner meeting. I hope that
Councilmembers will make a special effort to attend this meeting as
it will not only serve to acquaint you with the proposed 1986 legis-
lative program of the MLC, but also to share your thoughts and
concerns on legislative and other matters with other local elected
officials as well as state legislators.
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447, TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
CITY COUNCIL INFORMATIONAL MEMORANDUM
December 27, 1985
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FOR YOUR INFORMATION....
1. COUNTY ROAD 6 AND VICKSBURG LANE INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS -- Last
summer the County, following the request of the City Council,
initiated safety improvements at the subject intersection. The
first of these improvements involved the restriping of County Road 6
so as to provide for left turn lanes from County Road 6. Another
part of this project was to involve the installation of a traffic
signal controller which would provide for left turn arrows for
traffic on all four legs. These changes were to have been made
during the 1985 construction season, however, the necessary traffic
controller was not ordered until recently. It is doubtful that the
controller will be received or the wiring completed before spring.
2. MINUTES - The following City Commission/Board minutes are attached
for your review:
a. Planning Commission, December 18, 1985 (I-2)
3. COMMISSION APPLICATION -- Mr. Peter Reichardt has submitted the
attached application for appointment to the Park and Recreation
Advisory Commission. (I-3)
4. WORLD CARPET SPECIAL ASSESSMENT APPEAL -- The City Attorney's office
has advised us that World Carpet has dropped their special assess-
ment appeal to City Project 509, Niagara Lane Improvements, after
receiving the results of an appraisal which they commissioned.
5. CORRESPONDENCE:
a. Letter from TwinWest Chamber President, David Olson, thanking
the City Manager for hosting the December Board meeting and
"Community Coffee Break" at City Center. (I -5a)
b. Letter from Eric Blank, granting permission to John Suckerman,
Cub Scout Activities Chairman, for use of Medicine Lake for an
Ice fishing contest on January 25. (I -5b)
c. Letter from Dr. Mark Nesbit, Jr., Chairman of the Board,
Children's Cancer Research Fund of the University of Minnesota,
advising of a donation by Ryan Construction Company of
Minnesota, Inc. to the Children's Cancer Research Fund on the
City's behalf. (I -5c)
d. Letter to Mayor -elect Schneider from Dave Pauba indicating his
willingness to be considered for reappointed to the Planning
Commission. (I -5d)
James G. Willis
City Manager
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CITY OF PLYMOUTH
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
DECEMBER 18 1985
The regular Meeting of the Plymouth Planning Commission was
called to order at 7:30 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Steigerwald, Commissioners
Wire, Magnus, Stulberg (arrived 8:00
P.M.) Mellen and Pauba.
MEMBERS ABSENT: Commissioner Plufka
STAFF PRESENT: Community Development Coordinator
Sara McConn
City Engineer Sherm Goldberg
Community Development Secretary'"
Grace Wineman
*CONSENT AGENDA AND
MINUTES
MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner
Magnus to recommend approval of the December 4, 1985 Minutes
as submitted.
VOTE 5 Ayes. MOTION carried.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
*MINUTES OF DECEMBER
4, 1985
VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Steigerwald introduced the request by Harstad Com- HARSTAD COMPANIES
panies and requested an overview of the December 9, 1985 PUD CONCEPT PLAN FOR
staff report by Coordinator McConn. Chairman Steigerwald LAKE RIDGE ESTATES
explained the Concept stage of development and that another (85114)
hearing would be held at the Preliminary Plat stage if this
petition moves forward.
Commissioner Magnus inquired about the Metropolitan Urban
Service Area (MUSA) line location. Coordinator McConn
pointed out the areas that can be serviced and those which
are outside the MUSA boundary. Commissioner Magnus inquired
about the development of the proposed parkland at Mud Lake.
Coordinator McConn explained the park would remain un-
developed initially as a development plan has not been
prepared.
Commissioner Mellen inquired about the water and sewer lines
to this property. City Engineer Goldberg explained that ex-
tension of utilities would be at the developer's expense.
Commissioner Wire inquired about drainage; City Engineer
Goldberg explained that the proposed development area would
drain to the Bass Lake Area until such time the Elm Creek
Interceptor would be available. Commissioner Wire inquired
if there is adequate capacity in the Bass Lake Area; City
Engineer Goldberg stated the capacity would be adequate
until build -out of the Bass Lake Area.
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Planning Commission Minutes
December 18, 1985
Chairman Steigerwald introduced Mr. Ken Briggs, representing
the petitioner; and, Mr. Jim Merila, Merila & Associates.
Mr. Briggs introduced Mr. Charles Weaver stating that Mr.
Weaver was formerly with the Metropolitan Council and would
be available for any questions from the Commission.
Jim Merila, Merila & Associates, presented aerial photo-
graphs depicting the entire area. He stated that water and
sewer utility easements from the adjoining owner would be
acquired and the lines would be extended under I-494. He
discussed the housing types and traffic circulation. He
stated that the City of Maple Grove had requested extension
of Cheshire Lane from Plymouth into Maple Grove. It is
their opinion that extension of the street is not feasible
because of problems with topography, an existing tree stand,
and_ marshy areas. He stated that Hennepin County has re-
quested dedication of a 75 ft. wide strip for trail on the
western boundary of the property. They would be willing to
dedicate 50 ft., which they feel is reasonable in consider-
ation of the topography and marsh areas. Mr. Merila stated
that dedication of parkland on the east side of Mud Lake has
been discussed with Eric Blank Director of Parks and Recre-
ation, and that discussion is ongoing regarding the
additional 40 ft.
Mr. Merila explained the transition to the Maple Grove resi-
dences, and that they will work to create a development that
will be acceptable to both the City of Plymouth and the City
of Maple Grove. He noted that an area of concern by the
City of Maple Grove is protecting the pond areas, and more
detailed plans will design the construction away from the
pond. He stated that the overall drainage for the area in-
cludes a large pond in the northwest portion of the property
which is part of the Storm Water Drainage Plan, and they
will provide on-site ponding to reduce the drainage
off-site.
Mr. Merila explained the staging of development and that
tentatively they would begin construction next summer. He
stated that this developer has the same right to develop
this property as those land owners and developers in the
Bass Lake Area. He stated that sewer service should be on a
"first come, first served" basis, even though this property
is on the west side of I-494.
Mr. Ken Briggs, Harstad Companies, stated they are in
negotiations with Mr. Robert Lee of Prudential for ease-
ments. Mr. Lee has their proposals and has verbally stated
he sees no problem. Mr. Briggs further stated they are
meeting with the property owner to the east regarding ease-
ments. They do not suggest this is a public project, and
are prepared to take on the expense of providing water and
sewer for the development.
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Planning Commission Minutes
December 18, 1985
Commissioner Pauba inquired if they had talked with the
South Side Property representatives. Mr. Briggs stated they
would begin negotiations tomorrow. Those owners have not
stated their position, but if the property can be purchased
the Concept Plan would be revised to include this land. He
stated he is 90% sure of service to the property.
City Engineer Goldberg stated that the 1980 Sewer Report
shows capacity available to the Year 2000.
Chairman Steigerwald opened the Public Hearing.
Robert Waibel, Planner for the City of Maple Grove, stated
their concerns are for the northeast corner of the proposed
development, and that it be considered for single family de-
tached housing to blend with the neighborhood in Maple
Grove. He stated they became aware of the Maple Grove
neighborhood petition and it is the City's hope that the
developer will be responsive to their concerns and will plan
for adequate buffering and transition. He suggested that
the right-of-way into Maple Grove be open for further dis-
cussion with the applicant and between City staff members.
He noted that Maple Grove's base map shows Cheshire Lane and
that verification of street names should be accomplished.
Mr. Waibel stated they want assurance there will be no
drainage problems for residences in Maple Grove.
Karen Olsen stated she represents the homeowners in Maple
Grove and prsented a petition. Their concerns involve
street access, and the fact that traffic could overtax the
residential streets. With ultimate development they would
like to see outlots preserved for protection of the ponds
and to provide overflow controls. She requested notifica-
tion on future stages of development to be sent to the resi-
dents' representative as well as to the City of Maple Grove;
and, that there be further discussion regarding land use and
design if this project moves forward. She stated they have
initiated communications with Maple Grove, Plymouth, and
Merila & Associates. Ms. Olsen introduced Mr. Malcom
Watson.
Mr. Watson stated he has worked with the Plymouth City
staff, and he is pleased with the work done by Merila &
Associates on this development plan. He reiterated the con-
cern regarding the ponding areas that are above the adjoin-
ing grades. He stated that a neighbor to the north had
water problems, and in the process of trying to correct the
problem, the pond has receded. He stated the developer will
need to be very careful not to penetrate the pond's hard pan
which could cause a loss of ponding area.
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Planning Commission Minutes
December 18, 1985
Mr. Watson noted the concerns regarding roadway access and
traffic patterns. He stated they want to provide input as
they go along with this development and be given notifica-
tion for each stage of development as it comes in for
review.
Commissioner Wire inquired about the fragility of the
ponds. Mr. Watson stated that once the clay basin is cut, an
entire pond could be lost. He stated if excavation is done
within 50 ft. of the pond it can create potential problems
for the pond and the structures.
Chairman Steigerwald inquired about the street connection.
Mr. Waibel, Planner for Maple Grove, stated this needs fur-
ther investigation at the preliminary plat stage, but that
it is good planning not to abandon the possibility when the
opportunity arises to get the right-of-way even if the
street is not constructed.
Commissioner Mellen inquired about the location of the
closest residences in Maple Grove. Mr. Watson stated there
is one vacant lot, the rest of the homes have been con-
structed. He stated that acquiring right-of-way may affect
one home.
Commissioner Pauba inquired about fill along the Maple Grove
boundary. Mr. Watson stated that the rear yards of the
Maple Grove residences are very flat. He noted that at one
time some re -grading was done and there has been some drain-
age problems.
Donna Ryan, Councilmember, City of Maple Grove, stated the
City Council does not want right-of-way from this plat into
the City. She stated they are concerned that 63rd Avenue is
very narrow and could be impacted by additional traffic.
She stated they have turned away all requests for develop-
ment west of this area because of constraints of access, and
sewer is not available at this time. She stated that pedes-
trian access to the parks would be desirable, rather than
road right-of-way. She stated they want to be sure that
there is a blending of the neighborhoods of both communities
in the northeast corner of this development. She stated she
doesn't understand the "Transitional Area" but they will
want to monitor this for adequate screening and buffering.
She stated they would be more comfortable with single family
detached dwellings so that the residents of Maple Grove will
know what will be developed across from their homes.
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Planning Commission Minutes
December 18, 1985
Chairman Steigerwald introduced Mr. Charles Weaver, Anoka,
MN. Mr. Weaver had no comment.
Mr. Briggs stated they met with neighbors during the plan-
ning stages for Kingsview Heights, and they will meet with
the Maple Grove residents to explain the development propos-
al. He stated he would direct Merila & Associates to pre-
pare an engineering report on the ponds, investigate the
soils and water table, and will have drawings prepared that
will show construction near the ponds so all concerns can be
addressed.
Robert McCormick, a land owner in the Mud Lake area, in-
quired about access to the park, and stated he would not
want to have access to the park on his land.
Coordinator McConn explained the that there is no specific
development plans at this time. She stated that Hennepin
County restricts access to County Road 47 and that Mr.
McCormick should contact the City for further information as
this development progresses. She informed Mr. McCormick he
could call her or Director of Parks and Recreation Eric
Blank.
Chairman Steigerwald stated that the east side of Mud Lake
would be the park setting and the trail will be contained on
this side, not in the area of Mr. McCormick's land.
Coordinator McConn further explained that with the prelimin-
ary plat phase, a Public Hearing is required and all proper-
ty owners in Plymouth will be notified along with the City
of Maple Grove regarding the meeting schedule. Chairman
Steigerwald stated the City will notify the spokesperson for
the Maple Grove residents' group.
Chairman Steigerwald closed the Public Hearing.
Chairman Steigerwald inquired about the mix of housing and
specifically, the mix of solar and conventional homes, and
whether this has been successful. Mr. Briggs stated they
have built some solar homes within the same development for
conventional homes. He stated there are new products avail-
able in home construction and they are providing both styles
of homes which are less expensive to heat.
Commissioner Pauba inquired about the phasing of the devel-
opment. Mr. Briggs stated that probably the first phase
would be the single family detached homes, the second phase
would be the multi -family residences. He stated they would
build all the single family homes at one time. He assured
Commissioner Pauba they would build all roads, and antici-
pate that they will complete the streets and utilities in
1987.
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Planning Commission Minutes
December 18, 1985
Commissioner Wire asked for a clarification on the sewer
districts, commenting that his concern is on capacity to
Bass Lake as development is also occurring on the east
side. City Engineer Goldberg stated this development does
not go out beyond its own sewer district boundary and is
part of the Bass Lake Area. Commissioner Wire noted the
letter from the Minnesota Department of Transportation
(MnDOT) regarding the noise levels from I-494 that may
exceed an acceptable level, and noise abatement methods may
be required. Coordinator McConn stated that an environmen-
tal review will be prepared and impacts of noise lev,M s will
be discussed at that time.
Mr. Briggs noted that the multi -family dwellings will be
closer to I-494, and that they may need to provide noise -
proofing for those units. However, the property contained
within this Concept Plan is quite a distance from the I-494
corridor.
Coordinator McConn stated that the Commission could add
conditions to direct that additional information on noise
levels and abatement procedures be submitted for review.
Commissioner Wire inquired about the decibel levels. Mr.
Briggs stated he would direct Merila & Associates to look
into the tests and standards and to provide this information
to the Commission.
The Commission concurred that the proposal does qualify as a
Planned Unit Development. Commissioner Wire stated adequate
transition should be stressed, especially to the neighbor-
hoods in Maple Grove.
Commissioner Magnus inquired about the open space provided
and whether there would be a Homeowner's Association. Mr.
Briggs stated there will be an open area at Mud Lake and
around the ponding; access would be provided to the public
park and there would be specifications for maintenance of
the private open space. He stated they will be providing
more specific information on the amenities planned for the
residents.
Commissioner Magnus inquired about the berming between the
single family detached and multi -family units. Mr. Briggs
explained the design of the townhomes and assured that tran-
sition will be provided. Commissioner Magnus inquired about
the grading plan and whether there will be protection for
the residents from County Road 47. dim Merila explained
that the lots in this area are longer, and elevations are
both below and above the roadway. He stated that berming
and landscaping will be used and more detailed plans will be
available at the next stage of development. He noted the
difference in grade from the single to the multi -family
units.
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Chairman Steigerwald inquired why the County requires 75
ft. for trailway on the western boundary. Coordinator
McConn stated that the County called and advised that the
regional trail corridor is 100 to 200 ft. in width. It will
be a multi-purpose trail for skiers, bikers, hikers, and
snowmobiles.
Chairman Steigerwald inquired about the request for
increased lot coverage. Mr. Briggs stated that the City
Council has asked that there be identification, up front,
because of the possible constraints that could affect the
larger homes. Chairman Steigerwald inquired if they under-
stand they should take the steps necessary to stay within
the parameters of the lots as designed. Mr. Briggs answered
affirmatively.
MOTION by Commissioner Wire, seconded by Commissioner Mellen
to recommend approval of the Residential Planned Unit Devel-
opment Concept Plan for Harstad Companies subject to the
conditions as stated in the December 9, 1985 staff report.
Commissioner Pauba stated he opposes the proposal. He noted
it meets the criteria for a planned unit development and he
has faith in the developer, however, it is his opinion that
this is premature development when there are so many other
areas that could be for developed without the extension of
sewer west of I-494. He is concerned about increased traf-
fic in this area as Bass Lake Road (County Road 10) carries
more traffic than it can handle now. He stated that a dev-
elopment proposal of this size requires additional streets
such as the extension of Northwest Blvd and County Road 61.
MOTION by Chairman Steigerwald, seconded by Commissioner
MOTION
Stulberg to Amend the main Motion by adding Condition No. 14
to provide pedestrian access to Maple Grove; and, Condition
No. 15 that the northeast corner of the property be care-
fully analyzed for land use and better blending with the
City of Maple Grove.
Roll Call Vote on Amendment. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried.
VOTE - MOTION TO
AFEPD - CARRIED
Roll Call Vote on Main Motion and once Amended. 5 Ayes.
VOTE - MAIN MOTION
Commissioner Pauba, Nay.
NOTION CARRIED
Chairman Steigerwald called a Recess at 9:10 P.M. RECESS
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December 18, 1985
Chairman Steigerwald introduced the application and reading PIP COPYING AND
of the December 9, 1985 staff report was waived. PRINTING CENTER
CONDITIONAL USE
The representative had no questions or comments. PERMIT (85131)
Chairman Steigerwald opened the Public Hearing, as there was
no one to speak on the item, the Public Hearing was closed.
MOTION by Commissioner Pauba, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
Stulberg to recommend approval for the Conditional Use Per-
mit subject to the conditions as stated in the December 9,
1985 staff report.
Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Steigerwald introduced the application and reading MARTIN KLATTE, ELM
of the December 9, 1985 staff report was waived. CREEK TOURING CENTER
CONDITIONAL USE
�hairman Steigerwald introduced Michael Klatte, 1737 PERMIT (85133)
Magnolia Lane. Mr. Klatte explained the seasonal operation
of the tubing facility. The Commission asked if this was
open to the public or only to the club members. Mr. Klatte
stated it would be open to the public, the clubhouse would
be open and providing snacks, drinks, and restrooms.
Chairman Steigerwald inquired if patrons are tubing on the
course now. Mr. Klatte explained they are tubing but they
have not operated the tow rope at this time and will not
until the Permit is granted. He stated that because of the
cold weather they have not had a large number of people, but
are hopeful that the temperatures will be higher in January.
Chairman Steigerwald opened the Public Hearing, as there was
no one present to speak on the item, the Public Hearing was
closed.
MOTION by Commissioner Wire, seconded by Commissioner Magnus MOTION TO APPROVE
to recommend approval for the Conditional Use Permit subject
to the conditions as stated in the December 9, 1985 staff
report.
Mr. Klatte stated the Permit holder would be "Elm Creek
Winter Park".
Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - NOTION CARRIED
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December 18, 1985
NEW BUSINESS
Chairman Steigerwald introduced the application, reading of
LOT DIVISIONS AND
the December 9, 1985 staff report was waived.
VARIANCES FOR
LOTS 2 AND 3
Chairman Steigerwald introduced Mr. Merrill Paulson, Vision
PLYMOUTH CREEKVIEW
Builders. He stated he had no questions or comments.
2ND ADDITION
(85122/85123)
Commissioner Wire inquired about the staff reference to
modification of the Subdivision Code. Coordinator McConn
stated that there have been approvals granted in similar
cases and that continuation of requests for and approval of
similar variances show the necessity to amend the Code. The
City is anticipating the review of the Subdivision Code for
any modifications or updating that is needed at this time.
Commissioner Wire inquired what other developments had been
granted this type of variance. Coordinator McConn listed
Fox Glen 3rd, Cedar Ridge, and Middlemist 6th Addition as
requests for variances of this type.
MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Chairman NOTION TO APPROVE
Steigerwald to recommend approval of the Lot Divisions and
Variances subject to the conditions as stated in the
December 9, 1985 staff report.
VOTE. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - NOTION CARRIED
Chairman Steigerwald introduced the application, reading of GARY KAKACH FOR
the December 9, 1985 staff report was waived. INSTRUMENT CONTROL
SYSTEMS, INC.
Commissioner Pauba inquired if there is a problem with the SITE PLAN AND
temporary use of the existing building. Coordinator McConn VARIANCE (85124)
stated that the Building Inspection Division and Fire
Inspector have confirmed there would be no problem with the
use of the building. She stated that the petitioner has
verified their intentions in writing, that in 5 years new
buildings would be constructed and these removed.
Warren Schimvovek, the petitioner's representative, had no
questions or comments.
MOTION by Commissioner Pauba, seconded by Commissioner NOTION TO APPROVE
Stulberg to recommend approval of the Site Plan and Variance
subject to the conditions as stated in the December 9, 1985
staff report.
VOTE. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - NOTION CARRIED
Chairman Steigerwald introduced the application and request- WELSH CONSTRUCTION
ed an overview of the December 10, 1985 staff report by Co- COMPANY - LOT
ordinator McConn. CONSOLIDATION, SITE
PLAN AND VARIANCE
( 85132 )
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December 18, 1985
Commissioner Magnus stated that without the traffic signals
at the intersection of 14th Avenue and Highway 101, there
will be major traffic problems. He inquired when these sig-
nals would be installed. City Engineer Goldberg added that
this will be reviewed in the fall of the year and may pos-
sibly be scheduled for 1987. Commissioner Magnus stated it
is his opinion the signals are justified even without fur-
ther development. City Engineer Goldberg explained that the
construction of signals are dependent upon meeting warrants
from the Highway Department. Commissioner Magnus reiterated
that with development of the grocery store there will be
major traffic problems. City Engineer Goldberg and Coordin-
ator McConn explained the requirement that the need must be
established before installation of signals by the Minnesota
Department of Transportation.
There was further discussion of traffic circulation.
Commissioner Magnus requested the Minutes reflect the con-
cern regarding increased traffic and upgrading this
intersection.
Chairman Steigerwald introduced Mr. Paul Dunn, Vice Presi-
dent, Welsh Companies. Mr. Dunn explained the history of
the project and that this will be the first development by
Welsh Companies in Plymouth. He stated they had talked with
Red Owl/Wickes and about 8 months ago and decided to go
ahead with the development plans. He explained that Welsh
Companies acquired the property and will lease back the ten-
ant space to Red Owl/Snyders. He stated that it is a good
plan and he shares the concerns regarding traffic and up-
grading of the intersection. Mr. Dunn introduced the
"development team" of Mike Wirtanen, Architect; Damon
Farber, Landscape Architect; Gary Grandrud, Land Use
Attorney; and, Sohn Stencel, Project Manager.
Mike Wirtanen, Architect, stated that he had been working
with Red Owl and Wickes Corporation for three years on the
project. He explained the building uses, size, and con-
struction materials; that the site is unique due to the fact
that it is surrounded by streets so that front yard setbacks
are required on all four sides of the site. He explained
the access, traffic flow, parking design, and circulation.
Mr. Wirtnanen explained the distance between the proposed
building and the church site; and, that they have prepared a
luminaire plan for outside lighting.
Damon Farber, Landscape Architect, explained the landscape
plan, citing the plantings by specie and size. He stated
there would be 3 1/2 ft. berms on all four sides and plant-
ings would be installed south and west of the building. He
stated they have provided plantings that are good screening
material and easy to maintain.
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December 18, 1985
Commissioner Mellen inquired about the loading dock area in
relation to the apartment complex, and whether deliveries
would be in the early A.M. which could disturb the residents
of the apartments. Mr. Farber stated they could move
additional materials into this area to add screening.
Chairman Steigerwald inquired about the setback from the
units to the south. Coordinator McConn explained the
apartment complex is quite a distance from the development
site. Sohn Stencel, Project Manager, stated that the store
will operate 24 -hours. They receive deliveries from 7:00
A.M. until noon and some deliveries at night. It was noted
that there are apartment complexes near the facility in New
Hope and there have been no complaints.
Coordinator McConn stated there is a Super Valu store at
County Road 101 and there have been no complaints lodged
with the City regarding deliveries to this store.
Gary Gandrud, Attorney, explained that the variances are not
requested for economic reasons but because of the unique
parcel which has four front yards and no side or rear yards
making it necessary to request the variances. He stated the
hardship is because of the excessive setback requirements
because of this unique situation. He stated they are sensi-
tive to the loading and delivery areas and a higher berm
could be put in place. Mr. Gandrud stated that the parcel
accommodates the design characteristics and does not
approach maximum land coverage so there is no attempt to in-
crease the square footage of the building. He stated the
design is sensitive to the neighborhood, traffic circulation
and access. Mr. Gandrud pointed out that half the lot (3 +
acres) encompasses setback restrictions. He explained the
walkway system, parking, and discussed the land dedicated
for right-of-way which created the cut-off corners of the
property.
Commissioner Magnus stated that no other stores, except for
Holiday, has outside cart corrals. He stated that with the
drive -up facility the cart storage should not be needed.
Mr. Dunn explained that the Red Owl is a "Country Store"
concept where the customer bags and carries to save money.
He explained that employees pick-up the carts every one-half
hour and this concept works well at the New Hope facility.
He stated they do have some courtesy employees, but the con-
cept is mass merchandising including bag and save for the
customer. Commissioner Pauba agreed that the carts do
create problems.
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December 18, 1985
Coordinator McConn stated that if problems arise at the
Holiday Store, the managers and owners have always been co-
operative in resolving them, similar conditions of approval
were proposed here.
Commissioner Stulberg stated the Commission does not make
decisions on marketing styles, and he would rather see the
cart corrals to control where the carts are temporarily
stored on site.
Mr. Ron Houser, 2135 Urbandale, stated that he represents
the Messiah Church. The church plans on expanding, and
there is concern for the view from the church. He inquired
about the building design, materials, and number of parking
stalls.
Mike Wirtanen responded and used a through -section to
explain layout and building height. He noted there are 438
parking stalls on-site.
Mr. Houser inquired if the trash compactors and receptacles
are completely concealed. Mr. Wirtanen explained that the
trash is loaded internally into a hopper; there is no out-
side dumpsters and the area will be screened. Commissioner
Stulberg inquired about the location of the compactors.
Mr. W-rtanen pointed them out. There was further discussion
regarding a retaining wall on earlier drawings that was
dropped because of concern about truck and vehicle maneuver-
ability in the area of the loading dock.
Other design changes and alternatives were discussed.
Mr. Dunn stated correspondence was received from Mr. Schuett
expressing concern about the screening and enclosure for the
trash compactor. He explained that they have not been able
to reach a good solution. The Site Plan is important and is
fixed because of all the planning which has been accomplish-
ed. They have tried to address this with extra landscaping
and did consider fencing. However, they felt that fencing
was not a good alternative because of the need for snow re-
moval and aesthetics. He stated they could look at this
again.
Commissioner Stulberg inquired about the trash pick-up.
Mr. Stencel stated that pick-up is usually made between 8:00
A.M. and 4:00 P.M., that the cardboard is picked up every
three days; and, every fourth day, garbage, produce and the
like, is picked up.
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December 18, 1985
Coordinator McConn agreed this is an important considera-
tion, there have been certain cases where it has been neces-
sary to remind management of no storing trash outside of
approved areas.
Mr. Dunn stated they have a professional staff of property
managers, and it will be a well -shown project which will be
properly maintained. He stated they have an excellent work-
ing relationship with Red Owl management.
There was further discussion on signage and snow removal.
Mr. Dunn confirmed they would haul out the snow.
Commissioner Wire stated that the project is well planned
but he is concerned that the Commission is looking at
another development that is larger what_ than the land will
hold.
Commissioner Mellen stated that a higher degree of success
would come with the larger store and tenant area. Commis-
sioner Wire disagreed stating that grocery stores come and
go.
Commissioner Stulberg discussed the front yard setbacks that
would commonly be to County Road 6. He noted the landscape
plans provide plantings above and beyond the Ordinance re-
quirements, but there should be specific attention given to
the transition to the church and special consideration given
to enclosing the trash compactor area. He stated it is a
good building design.
Chairman Steigerwald inquired about Olive Lane not matching
up with the street across County Road 6. City Engineer
Goldberg stated that the whole intersection may need islands
to be accomplished at the time of upgrading. Chairman
Steigerwald commented that he would not like to see a prob-
lem for the church in the form of a right -turn only onto
County Road 6. It was confirmed that ultimately one of the
church accesses would be eliminated to County Road 6 and re-
directed to Olive Lane.
MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
Pauba to recommend approval subject to the conditions in the
December 10, 1985 staff report and listing the variances as
requested; adding Condition No. 11; that the trash compac-
tors be screened by a wall, with increased screening of the
loading entrance.
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December 18, 1985
MOTION by Commissioner Wire, seconded by Commissioner
Magnus to Amend the Main Motion by the addition of Condition
No. 12 to reassign the proposed number of coniferous
plantings to 85 with concentrations on the Olive Lane side
of the site, specifically around the loading and trash
storage areas; and, use Evergreens to shield the adjacent
properties from headlight glare from delivery vehicles.
Vote on Amendment. 5 Ayes. Commissioner Mellen Nay.
MOTION carried.
Vote on Main Motion as once Amended. 6 Ayes. MOTION
carried.
OTHER BUSINESS
Coordinator McConn discussed future meeting agenda. It was
the consensus that the Commission hold a Joint Meeting with
the HRA on January 8, 1986 to be followed by a Public
Hearing to be held on January 22, 1986.
The Meeting adjourned at 11:10 P.M.
MOTION TO AMEND
VOTE - AMENDMENT
MOTION CARRIED
VOTE - MAIN MOTION
MOTION CARRIED
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400 South County Road 18, Shelard Plaza South, Suite 352
St. Louis Park, Minnesota 55426, Telephone (612) 540-0234
December 18, 1985
Mr. Jim Willis
City of Plymouth
3400 Plymouth Blvd.
Plymouth, MN 55441
Dear Jim:
Thank you for hosting the Board meeting and your "Community
Coffee Break". Not only do these provide a chance for Chamber
members to get together and visit, but they also had an oppor-
tunity to become familiar with your location and the services you
offer.
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December 23, 1985
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John Suckerman PLYMOUTF�
Cub Scout Activities Chairman
5943 Kentucky Ave N
Crystal, MN 55428
Dear John:
I am pleased to grant you permission to use Medicine Lake for an ice fishing
contest on Saturday, January 25, from 10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Your use of
the lake in past years for ice fishing events has posed no problems for us,
and I see by your letter that you intend to clean up the area when you are
finished. As in previous years, one of my staff will check the lake on
Monday, January 27, to make sure that all trash barrels, etc., have been
cleared away.
You should remind your contestants that entrance to the Clifton E. French
Regional Park on the north end of Medicine Lake requires a daily fee of
$2 per vehicle or a season pass.
Good luck with your ice fishing derby.
Sincerely,
Eric J. Blank, Director
Parks and Recreation
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3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447 TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
December, 1985
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City of Plymouth
3400 Niagara Lane
Plymouth, Minnesota 55441
Dear Friends:
The 1985 Holiday Season is upon us, and in the special spirit of giving and
sharing that this season brings, a thoughtful gift has been made in your
honor.
Ryan Construction Company of Minnesota,
the Children's Cancer Research Fund of
behalf. It is thoughtful contributions
to provide vital financial support for
cancer, with the hope that we may treat
eventually cure it.
Inc. has given a generous donation to
the University of Minnesota on your
such as this that allow us to continue
training and research in children's
the disease more effectively and
Cancer is the second leading cause of death among children, next to accidents.
Approximately 6,000 children are diagnosed each year in the United States.
Great strides have been made: Thirty years ago the cure rate for acute
Leukemia was only 1%. Today the cure rate is 65%! The University of
Minnesota's pediatric oncologists have been on the forefront of this progress.
Ryan Construction's gift will help in funding current research projects such
as bone marrow transplantation, the evaluation of new cancer chemotherapeutic
drugs and investigation of the causes of pediatric cancers. Their gift in
your honor is one of caring and active support which will help us in our dream
to eliminate childhood cancers. What more appropriate season than this for
giving a gift which will help to make our children's future brighter!
Warm wishes for a happy holiday season.
Sincerely,
Mark E. Nesbit, JM.D.
Chairman of the Bi rd
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INSUR.NCS Auto -Life -Health -Home and Business
7000 -57TH AVENUE NORTH SUITE 107
CRYSTAL, MINNESOTA 55428 PHONE (612) 533-2164 (AFTER HRS: 559-3680)
December 26, 1985
Mayor -Elect Virgil A. Schneider
3400 Plymouth Boulevard
Plymouth, Minnesota
55447
Dear Mayor Schneider
Again, congratulations on your November election. I, too, wish you would
have been opposed. It would have been fun to trounce someone! I'm confi-
dent our City has yet another Mayor who'll continue the outstanding leader-
ship we've enjoyed and prospered upon in the recent past.
Planning Commission Chairman Steigerwald has advised those of us who's term
expires to advise you of our availability, or un -availability as the case
may be, to continue to serve on that Commission should you so desire.
I would be less than truthful if I said there was never a doubt about con-
tinuing. There's been times I'd rather have been, doing scm2thing else. 1
don't have to tell you how time-consuming it can be. It pales at that re-
quired by the Mayor and Council.
And let me make it clear that I do not assume the desire to reappoint me.
I do not doubt the existence of individuals more capable and willing.
I do foresee, however, a probably period of adjustment on the Council- not
due to ability, but, rather, inexperience. Not wishing to add to the in-
experience, offer myself for reappointment should that be your desire and
directive.
It has been my pleasure and privilege to serve my City and Council these
past six years. I've enjoyed my association with the Commission- a fine
group both individually and collectively. We've had excellent Chairpeople
in Maria and Paul, and tremendous help from a City Staff that just has to
be second -to -none.
I look forward to continue to serve if that is your decision.
Respectfully,