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PLYMOUTR
CITY COUNCIL INFORMATIONAL MEMORANDUM
February 1, 1985
UPCOMING MEETINGS AND EVENTS......
1. REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING -- Monday, February 4, 7:30 p.m. Regular
City Council meeting in Council Chambers.
2. TOWN MEETING -- Tuesday, February 19, 7:00 p.m. Town Meeting for
residents living north of County Road 9, east of I-494, south of the
Sault St. Marie railroad tracks, and west of County Road 18. A copy
of the letter notifying residents of the meeting is attached.
FOR YOUR INFORMATION.....
1. POLICY RELATING TO ORIENTATION OF COMMISSIONERS TO CITY ADVISORY
COMMISSIONS -- At the January 28 meeting the Council adopted
revisions to this policy which substituted performance criteria for
the "Expectations" section. The Council directed that the revised
policy be submitted to Commission chairpersons. Attached is a
memorandum conveying the revised policy. In the absence of further
Council direction, I will distribute the policy on February 5.
2. MINUTES -- The following minutes are attached:
a. Planning Commission meeting, January 23, 1985
b. Board of Zoning Adjustments and Appeals, January 14, 1985
3. OAKDALE WEST 3RD ADDITION - DON MYRON -- At the January 21 meeting
the Council deferred the preliminary plat for Oakdale West 3rd
Addition for Don Myron until the meeting of February 4 to allow the
petitioner, staff, and city attorney to further research the matter
of Outlot B and access to the Pribble property. It is now necessary
to reschedule this item to the February 25 meeting. Staff is
working with the city attorney to complete the required language and
it cannot be accomplished until the February 25 meeting.
4. 1985 PAYABLE TAXES -- Attached is an exhibit prepared by the
Assessing Division showing by school district, 1985 property taxes
for homestead and non -homestead property.
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CITY COUNCIL INFORMATIONAL MEMORANDUM
February 1, 1985
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5. YOUTH SERVICE OFFICER -- Community Service Officer Mary Uhlig has
been selected as the first Youth Service Officer for Plymouth. She
was selected after an extensive evaluation process and oral
interview board As of this time, Mary will be in this new position
for approximately two years. She will start March 1, 1985.
6. COUNCIL FOLLOW-UPS:
A. AREA 4 TOWN MEETING FEEDBACK RESPONSES - Attached are staff
responses to resident feedback forms received at the Town
Meeting for Area 4.
B. Mr. David Key, 40 Quantico Lane -- Mr. Key recently corresponded
to Mayor Davenport questioning the City's specific plans for
County Road 15, the Carlson project, and the I-494 interchange.
Attached is a letter from the City Manager providing Mr. Key
with the requested information.
C. Mr. Tom Miller, 1800 East Medicine Lake Boulevard -- In the
attached letter to Mayor Davenport, Mr. Miller states several
complaints with regard to the public access for ice fishing on
the southeast side of Medicine Lake. Specifically, Mr. Miller
is concerned with the access being a traffic hazard since
vehicles leaving the lake must merge with traffic going around
the corner of 18th Avenue and East Medicine Lake Boulevard.
Other concerns of Mr. Miller include traffic volumes, location
of the access as it relates to drifting of snow, and noise
created from vehicles entering and exiting the access. Attached
is a copy of a letter responding to Mr. Miller's concerns from
the Park and Recreation Director.
7. CORRESPONDENCE:
a. Letter to Keith Ford, Office of the Governor, from Mayor Daven-
port, responding to Mr. Ford's letter of January 8 regarding
Metropolitan Council appointments.
b. Letter from dames Kemp responding to Mayor Davenport's letter on
Mr. Kemp's election as Chairman of the Wayzata School Board.
c. Letter to Steve Ricker, 3530 Rosewood Lane, from Mayor Daven-
port, commenting on a letter to the Editor published in the Post
from Mr. Ricker concerning the Community Center.
CITY COUNCIL INFORMATIONAL MEMORANDUM
February 1, 1985
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d. Letter of appreciation to former Councilmember Pat Moen from
Mayor Davenport.
e. Letter of sympathy to Mrs. Jean Koski, from Mayor Davenport.
Also attached is a letter to Don Chilistrom, on the death of
Bill Koski.
f. Letter to Mrs. Robert Miggins, from Mayor Davenport.
g. Letter to Mr. Paul Smith, Metropolitan Council, from
Councilmember David Crain, providing comments as part of the
record of public hearing on the proposed regional Solid Waste
Management Development Guide/Policy Plan.
h. Letter to Councilmember Pat Neils, from Doug Reeder, Maple Grove
City Administrator, on the Elm Creek drainage problem involving
Howard Hunt's property.
Ja es G. Willis
Ci y Manager
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Att.
January 15, 1985
CITY OF
PLYMOUTft
Dear Plymouth Resident:
SUBJECT: TOWN MEETING, FEBRUARY 19
Because Plymouth is a developing community, there are many actions underway
or in the planning stage which may impact upon you. In order to maintain
open communication channels with residents of the community, the City
Council has scheduled a Town Meeting for Tuesday, February 19, 1985 for
residents of your area. In order to keep the meetings on an informal basis
while dealing with specific topics of interest to you, the Town Meeting will
be especially for residents living north of County Road 9, east of I-494,
south of the Sault St. Marie railroad tracks, and west of County Road 18.
The Town Meeting is scheduled to begin at 7:00 p.m. in the Plymouth City
Center. On the reverse side of this letter is a list of possible topics for
discussion at the Town Meeting. If you have other matters of interest we
will seek to address them also.
I encourage you to join Councilmembers Crain, Schneider, Neils, and Vasiliou
and myself at 7:00 p.m., Tuesday, February 19 at the Plymouth City Center.
We are anxious to meet you and look forward to this opportunity to discuss
matters of mutual interest. If you have any questions about the Town
Meeting, please feel free to call your City Clerk, Ms. Laurie Houk at
559-2800, ext. 204.
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TOWN MEETING AGENDA
AREA FIVE
February 19, 1985
7:00 p.m.
I. THOROUGHFARES
A. Extension of 45th from Nathan to Zachary Lane
B. County Road 9 improvement between County Road 18 and I-494
C. New County Road 61
II. PARKS
A. French Regional Park
B. Rolling Hills and Schmidt Lake Neighborhood Parks
C. Zachary Park
D. Trails
III. HOUSING & DEVELOPMENT
A. Staged Development Plan
B. RDC Properties
C. Jamestown
D. Deerwood Estates
E. Rolling Hills
IV. OTHER ITEMS
A. Public Transportation feedback
B. City Council meetings on cable television channel 7
C. City Project - Storm Water Drainage Improvements
POLICY RELATING TO ORIENTATION OF COMMISSIONERS
TO CITY ADVISORY COMMISSIONS
Resolution No. 85-103
January 28, 1985
(Supersedes Resolution No. 81-31, January 5, 1985)
Purpose
The Advisory Commission Orientation Program is designed to accomplish the following:
1. Generally describe the function of each commission and the role of the individual
commissioners. and the time commitment required for successful participation.
2. Acquaint commission applicants and incumbents with performance standards against
which their performance will be annually e%aluated by the City Council.
3. Concisely outline the legal and civic expectations of commissioners and commissions.
4. Familiarize commissioners with the formal duties and responsibilities of individual
commissions with respect to legal and procedural requirements.
Format
The format of the orientation program consists of both written material and oral
information provided by City staff, commission chairpersons and the City Council
to prospective commissioners.
1. Written material.
A. Summary of position and responsibilities. This document is a pamphlet made
available to prospective applicants at the time of application. It describes
the positions and responsibilities of all the commissions and further summa-
rizes the Job description.
B. Introductory packet. Assembled by respective staff liaison, and commissions,
the packet consists of information such as: a general overview of the legal
and procedural aspects of advisory commissions per statutes, ordinances and
policies; description of agenda and staff report functions, format for con-
ducting public hearings, including basic parliamentary procedures and approved
"flow process" relative to items of business before the advisory commission and
City Council. Also included are copies of applicable ordinances, portions of
the Comprehensive Plan, a copy of the City's Goals and Objectives and Criteria
for development, a sample staff report, agenda and minutes, and appropriate maps
2. Oral Information
A. Conveyed to prospective commissioners by the Mayor and City Council primarily
at the interview and selection stage of the appointment process. Special
emphasis is placed upon the expectations of the Council and current
commissioners for new commission members.
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B. Provided initially and on an on-going basis by the Commission chair-
persons, particularly about procedures and participation in a group
setting. A "buddy system" is used to assign more experienced commissioners to
help orient and advise new commission members.
C. Provided by staff, particularly in answering questions raised following
review of the written materials and with respect to technical information
regarding specific commission business.
Performance Standards for Board and Commission members
Annually, in December, the Council will review board and commission members on the
following:
1. A minimum of 80% attendance at meetings and work sessions.
2. Consistent active participation in meetings which demonstrates completion of
background research, site visitations and homework necessary for understanding and
deliberating on the issues before the commission.
3. Behavior confirms that the commissioner understands that the role of the
commission is advisory by statute and not policy making.
4. In all decisions the commissioner considers overall benefit to the City, not
parochial considerations.
5. The commissioner displays an understanding that Council may take final action which
varies from Commission recommendations after consideration and deliberation.
Selection and Appointment Process
Following is an outline of the appointment process and the way in which the orienta-
tion program integrates with it:
1. Council solicits applications by advertisement or newspaper article. Citizen
inquires about position. Summary statement, application and list of staff
and commission contacts provided to applicant for additional information
prior to interview.
2. Following review of applications, City Council interviews applicants and
discusses the position and expectations.
3. The Council selects and appoints. The Council may wish to once more meet
with .the appointee to discuss expectations and responsibilities.
4. The appointee meets with the chairperson of the commission and discusses in
particular the rules and procedures followed by the commission as well as
techniques for assuming the role of an active commissioner.
5. The appointee meets with staff. The appointee would be provided with the
written material at this stage and the discussion with staff would include a brief
overview of the significance of the particular material as well as the procedures
and legal requirements.
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CITY OF PLYMOUTH
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
JANUARY 23, 1985
The regular meeting of the Plymouth Planning Commission was
called to order at 7:30 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Steigerwald, Commissioners
Wire, Magnus, Plufka and Pauba
MEMBERS ABSENT: Commissioner Stulberg
STAFF PRESENT: Community Development Coordinator
Sara McConn
City Engineer Sherm Goldberg
Community Development Secretary
Grace Wineman
Chairman Steigerwald explained the use and purpose of the
Consent Agenda. MOTION by Commissioner Pauba, seconded by
Commissioner Wire to adopt the Consent Agenda, adding Items
6-A and 6-B to the Consent Agenda. Chairman Steigerwald
inquired if there were questions or comments from the repre-
sentatives of these petitions. Mr. David Volker stated he
wished to discuss 6-B Lot Consolidation, Lot Division and
Variance for David Volker and Thomas Betz with the Commis-
sion. The representative for 6-A, Alfred Eberle, Jr., Lot
Division and Variance, stated he had no questions or
comments, and was in agreement with the Planning Staff
Report dated January 11, 1985. Commissioner Pauba withdrew
the addition of Item 6-B.
VOTE. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried.
MINUTES
MOTION by Commissioner Pauba, seconded by Commissioner Wire
to approve the Minutes of January 9, 1985 as submitted.
VOTE. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
*MINUTES - JANUARY 9,
1985
Chairman Steigerwald introduced the request by Advance ADVANCE MACHINE
Machine and requested that Coordinator McConn review the LOT CONSOLIDATION,
January 11, 1985 Staff Report. Chairman Steigerwald CONDITIONAL USE
confirmed with Coordinator McConn, that lot coverage, PERMIT, SITE PLAN
parking, and landscaping variances were requested. AND VARIANCE (A-519)
Commissioner Pauba requested an explanation of the phasing
and building locations on the graphic. Chairman Steigerwald
Introduced Mr. Ron Ray, 560 Weston Lane, representing
Advance Machine.
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Mr. Ray reviewed the graphic and provided background on the
development. He explained that, the land was purchased in
1973, and some of their assembly operations were moved from
their Spring Park location to Plymouth. They expanded into
both existing buildings; brought all their assembly
operations to Plymouth; and, have purchased an additional 14
acres. He explained that in 1976, when they purchased the
additional acreage, the Plymouth Zoning Ordinance permitted
a maximum 50% lot coverage in the Industrial District. He
stated that upon their decision to further expand their
operations; and at the time of submission of initial plans;
they were informed by the City that the Plymouth Zoning
Ordinance now allows a maximum lot coverage of 40% in the
Industrial District. He explained that they have three
locations in the metro area; southeast Minneapolis, Spring
Park, and Plymouth; they don't want to face the need to find
new sites in six to 7 years; and, they need the 46% lot
coverage for their expansion plans. He stated that to
reduce the lot coverage they require, would mean a large
reduction of the building floor space needed.
Mr. Ray stated his concern about landscaping requirements,
and questioned the importance of increasing the landscaping
because of a mezzanine area they are proposing. He stated
that the need for increased screening in an area where there
is nothing but warehousing and manufacturing operations such
as Toro Corp., does not seem plausible.
Mr. Ray explained that, in reference to the parking
requirements, their operations will consist of two to three
shifts, so that the total number of employees roll across
three shifts, and the parking plan as submitted would be
more than sufficient for their needs. He stated Advance
Machine does not want any parking on the streets, and if
additional parking is needed, they will provide for it.
Chairman Steigerwald stated that, the City's concerns about
adequate parking in the Industrial District comes from past
experiences with companies that face the need for expansion
and do not have adequate parking on-site, or where new
tenants/owners of industrial buildings require a higher use
of the property, and the parking is not sufficient for their
needs.
Mr. Ray stated that, Advance is aware of these problems, and
is hopeful that with the phased development, the parking
required will be provided. He stated they are committed to
continue doing business in this area, and even though it is
expensive to operate in Minnesota, their work force is here
and they don't want to move their operations out of State.
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January 23, 1985
Commissioner Magnus inquired about location of the parking
ramp. Mr. Ray explained their "proof -of -parking" plan and
stated that construction of a ramp is probably cost prohibi-
tive, he stated their surface parking is for 825 stalls.
Chairman Steigerwald inquired about the staff comments on
how compliance can be achieved, and how employee levels
could be regulated. Coordinator McConn stated that the City
has cautioned Advance to be realistic about their future
parking needs; and, that actual experience has shown that
problems do occur when developmers gauge and obtain approval
for a lower use; then when a new owner/tenant, who needs a
more intense use of the facility, has to apply for variances
because the parking required has not been provided.
Mr. Ray stated they understand that, because they have this
problem at their Spring Park facility. They will take any
and all action necessary to provide the parking they will
require.
Coordinator McConn added that utilitizing more than one
shift of employees will help control the need for parking at
any given time.
Commissioner Plufka confirmed
the 35% maximum lot coverage.
affirmatively, but added that
important to discuss now
development.
that Phase I does not exceed
Coordinator McConn answered
the issue of lot coverage is
before there is further
Mr. Ray explained that, they want to move the Corporate
offices from Spring Park to the Plymouth location. They
plan to move their corporate offices into Phase II of the
development, and Phase III will be an expansion of their
manufacturing operations.
Commissioner Pauba inquired if they could solve the variance
request by the construction of a multi -story office build-
ing. Mr. Ray confirmed they have a 3 -story office building
in the plans. Commissioner Pauba inquired if they could
construct other multi -story buildings elsewhere on the prop-
erty to cut down on the lot coverage. Mr. Ray stated they
could not do this with the existing buildings, but they do
have plans for a mezzanine to provide office space.
Commissioner Wire inquired about the outside storage. Mr.
Ray stated that there will be some outside storage in Phase
I which will be screened with plantings and fencing. He ad-
vised there is some outside storage in use at the facility
now, with occasional short term storage of truck trailers
which are moved in an out. He confirmed they would not
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January 23, 1985
store components in the trailers, as they have adequate
warehouse space. Commissioner Wire inquired if the new area
will have paved storage area; Mr. Ray answered
affirmatively.
Commissioner Wire confirmed that trailers will not be parked
in this storage area; Mr. Ray stated this would not be the
case; that this would be storage for waste steel, etc.; and,
will contain collection containers much like "dumpsters", in
an area that will be screened and paved.
Chairman Steigerwald opened the Public Hearing. There was
no one present to speak on the item. Chairman Steigerwald
closed the Public Hearing.
Chairman Steigerwald stated he cannot remember the reason
for the Ordinance change from 50% to 35% lot coverage in the
Industrial District. Coordinator McConn stated she does not
know the history of the Ordinance amendment, but at one time
there was I-2 Zoning that allowed for more intense
industrial use. Mr. Ray concurred, stating that the I-2
Zoning District had a maximum 60% lot coverage.
Commissioner Wire stated that these changes were made to re-
duce the building "footprint", He is concerned that the
petitioner purchased the additional land under the assump-
tion that they could have 50% lot coverage, and he is in-
clined to recommend that the variance be approved because
they acquired the land before the Ordinance was changed. He
confirmed that the parking is covered by Condition No. 13 of
the draft Resolution. Coordinator McConn answered
affirmatively. She stated that standard language is used,
and the Commission may remember that a covenant was prepared
for a similar application (Stevens -Lee Addition/83029).
Commissioner Plufka stated that, the parking requirements
and lot coverage variance work against each other, and that
it is agreed that constructing a ramp would be very costly.
He stated that if the application is recommended for
approval, the petitioner must look very carefully at their
plans for Phases II and III, to determine what the ultimate
use will be for the property. If Advance leaves, and the
building is used by a new owner for a more intense use,
there could be too few parking stalls for a very large
facility.
Mr. Ray stated that, of course, they cannot foresee their
course in 20 years, but they assure the City they are very
sensitive to their long-range needs, and are totally commit-
ted to this development. He stated that once Phase I is
complete, the City will understand more of their operation.
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MOTION by Commissioner Wire, seconded by Commissioner Plufka RECOMMENDATION A
to recommend approval of the Lot Consolidation for Advance
Machine subject to the conditions as stated in the draft
Resolution; to recommend approval of the Site Plan, Con-
ditional Use Permit and Variances subject to the first five
conditions of the draft Resolution; modifying Condition No.
6 to state, "The Conditional Use Permit for temporary out-
side storage is subject to all applicable codes, regulations
and ordinances, and violation thereof shall be grounds for
revocation; subject to Condition Nos. 7 through 10; delete
Condition Nos. 11; delete "up to, but not exceeding
Ordinance allowed lot coverage" of Condition No. 12; subject
to Condition No. 13 as stated; and, adding Condition No. 14
as "a). Lot coverage as per the Master Plan at 46.2%; b).
Landscape Plan to allow for 172 over -story plantings as
proposed".
Commissioner Wire stated that he agrees with the petitioner
regarding the landscape plan, and that a variance request
for increased lot coverage would not have been required if
development had taken place at the time Advance purchased
the land. Commissioner Pauba stated his agreement, except
that the lot coverage variance request is "too much" and he
opposes granting the variance.
Commissioner Magnus stated that he could recommend approval
for the lot coverage, and agrees with the covenant for park-
ing requirements, but that it is appropriate for them to
meet the landscaping requirements of the City to buffer this
large facility. Mr. Ray stated that plantings wil be placed
in the area to the west, and they will add some smaller
trees for future growth. He inquired if putting in the 172
over -story trees, with an addition of the 38 plantings at a
smaller size than Policy requires, could be recommended by
the Commission.
MOTION to AMEND the MAIN MOTION by Commissioner Magnus, MOTION TO AMEND
seconded by Commissioner Plufka that the Landscape Plan
shall contain a provision for 38 additional plantings at 1
inch minimum size, to provide for screening of the east and
west perimeters of the development, and future phases.
VOTE. 6 Ayes. MOTION TO AMEND carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
Commissioner Plufka commented that Advance Machine is a
highly desirable corporate citizen of Plymouth; their plans
exhibit their foresight in phasing their development; and,
the City is not dissimilar in regard to economic
considerations of future planning.
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Commissioner Pauba concurred, but he is concerned that in
recommending approval for the increased lot coverage, it
leaves it open for someone else to come forward to ask for
increased lot coverage for similar reasons.
Commissioner Wire stated that, the precedent has been set in
the past with other requests. Coordinator McConn clarified
that there have been requests for up to 40% lot coverage.
Commissioner Steigerwald commented that he is not uncomfor-
table with the approval for increased lot coverage, in that
the facility is not close to residential areas, and is not a
highly visible site.
Coordinator McConn stated that staff has similar concerns to
those of Commissioner Magnus, and recommend compliance with
the Landscape Policy to reduce the impact of the buildings.
Mr. Ray commented that their development overlooks other in-
dustrial buildings, and that they are sensitive to the pub-
lic's view, however, they feel they are providing adequate
buffering and screening for their development.
Commissioner Plufka inquired if the City Engineer had any
concern regarding storm water run off. Engineer Goldberg
stated they have no special concerns.
Roll Call Vote on the MAIN MOTION as ONCE AMENDED. 5 Ayes.
Commissioner Pauba, Nay. MOTION carried.
Chairman Steigerwald introduced the request by Hennepin
County Park Reserve District, and requested a review of the
January 11, 1985 Staff Report. Coordinator McConn explained
the revision to the approved plan as a relocation of the
parking lot, because of denial by the Minnesota Department
of Natural Resources (DNR) for a permit to construct the
parking lot as originally proposed. She explained that the
parking lot, as initially proposed, was too close to the
High Water Elevation.
Chairman Steigerwald introduced Mr. Don King, Hennepin
County Park Reserve District, who further explained that the
parking area as initially proposed would have required
extensive fill.
Chairman Steigerwald opened the Public Hearing, and intro-
duced Mrs. Arlene Johnson, 3535 Rosewood Lane, who inquired
how many trees would be cut down as the result of this pro-
posal. She was concerned that these applications seem to be
approved so quickly, and they are not advised of these hear-
ings. Chairman Steigerwald explained the City's legal
VOTE - NOTION CARRIED
FENNEPIN COUNTY PARK
RESERVE DISTRICT
REVISED CONDTIIONAL
USE PERMIT AMENDMENT
AND SITE PLAN (84065)
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notice procedures, and advised Mrs. Johnson that if she
would call City Center, they would be glad to answer any of
her questions, at any time.
Mrs. Johnson stated she is very concerned about the removal
of trees; that 30 trees have already been removed; and, she
wants to know how many more are to be removed.
Coordinator McConn explained that the plan calls for 16
deciduous and 5 conifer trees to be removed; that new trees
will be planted, and existing trees will be retained. She
noted that they are increasing the number of over -story
trees by 13, and meet all requirements of the Policy.
Mr. King explained that the original plan would have made it
necessary to remove four more trees, which are now retained.
Mrs. Johnson stated she was not a resident when the Park
Reserve District purchased the land, but she is sure the tax
payers were unaware that part of the park land purchased by
the County would be used for offices and parking lot. Com-
missioner Plufka and Coordinator McConn explained that the
Hennepin County Park District received City approval of a
Master Plan, and the proposal for the District Headquarters
complies with Ordinance standards.
Mr. King stated that the use of park land for district head-
quarters is not unique, and that out of the 300 total acres,
their complex uses approximately 3 acres, less than 1% of
the total park area.
Mrs. Johnson inquired what percentage of the park is useable
land. Mr. King stated that 30% of the total area is marsh-
land.
Chairman Steigerwald closed the Public Hearing.
Commissioner Wire inquired about the waiver of construction
of a fire lane. Coordinator McConn stated that the Fire
Chief took the topography and physical characteristics of
the property into consideration, in his determination to
recommend granting the waiver; that the City Council found
the recommendation appropriate; and, approval has been car-
ried forward with this application.
MOTION by Chairman Steigerwald, seconded by Commissioner RECOMMENDATION B
Pauba to recommend approval of the Revised Conditional Use
Permit Amendment and Site Plan for the Hennepin County Park
Reserve District subject to the conditions as stated in the
draft Resolution.
Roll Call Vote. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
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NEW BUSINESS
MOTION by Commissioner Pauba, seconded by Commissioner Wire * RECOMENDATION C TO
to recommend approval of Lot Division and Variance for APPROVE LOT DIVISION
Alfred Eberle, Jr., subject to the conditions as stated in AND VARIANCE FOR
the draft Resolution. ALFRED EBERLE, OR.
(84104)
Vote. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
Chairman Steigerwald introduced the application, and Mr. DAVID VOLKER AND
David Volker, 2830 Brockton Lane. Reading of the January THOMAS BETZ
11, 1985 Staff Report was waived. LOT CONSOLIDATION
LOT DIVISION AND
Commissioner Pauba stated he agrees with the staff recom- VARIANCE (84109)
mendation to provide the minimum 6 ft. setback to the
garage.
Chairman Steigerwald commented that the problem began with a
surveyor's error, and that on behalf of the present proper-
ty owners, the City should be flexible in this case.
Mr. Volker explained that this request is made after a
series of compromises between himself and Mr. Betz. Now
that Mr. Betz is selling his home, he is allowing this prob-
lem to be resolved by giving land to Mr. Volker so that his
garage will be on his land. The lot adjustment of 5 ft. is
equitable to both he and Mr. Betz.
Commissioner Plufka stated he is concerned about not having
the required setback. Further discussion ensued regarding
location of utilities. City Engineer Goldberg stated that
the setback variance would not impact overhead utility
service.
MOTION by Chairman Steigerwald, seconded by Commissioner RECOMENDATION D
Magnus to recommend approval for the Lot Consolidation, Lot
Division and Variance for David Volker and Thomas Betz sub-
ject to the conditions as stated in the draft Resolution,
with a change to Condition No. 5 to state: "The common
property line shall be adjusted to the south appropriately
to provide a minimum 3 ft. setback to the garage".
Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. Commissioner Plufka, Nay. MOTION VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
carried.
Mr. Volker commented that the average citizen has a diffi-
cult time understanding the procedures involved with appli-
cations to the City, and that perhaps the City of Plymouth
could put together information for them. Chairman Steiger-
wald stated that this could be lengthy, but the City staff
is available and ready to help all citizens with questions
concerning their property.
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Coordinator McConn suggested that if Mr. Volker has specific
recommendations and examples of information that was diffi-
cult to obtain relative to his application, this would help
staff to help other citizens. Mr. Volker commented that the
Engineering staff, and the Coordinator had been very helpful
to him, but that he was at a loss initially to know how to
go about resolving the problem.
OTHER BUSINESS
Commissioner Steigerwald advised that, the Special Meeting
tentatively scheduled for February 6, 1985 would not be
necessary.
Discussion ensued about upcoming applications. The upcoming
Public Hearings for Ordinance Amendments will be scheduled
for February 13, 1985. The February 27, 1985 meeting will
begin early for a study session before considering the regu-
lar business items. The study session will consist of dis-
cussing the issues relating to lot coverage provisions for
residential developments.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 9:00 P.M.
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION JANUARY 23, 1985
RECOMMENDATION A
SETTING CONDITIONS TO BE MET PRIOR TO FILING AND REGARDING LOT CONSOLIDATION FOR
ADVANCE MACHINE (FILE NO. A-519)
WHEREAS, the City Council has approved a Lot Consolidation for Advance Machine for
property located north of 21st Avenue between Fernbrook Lane and Niagara Lane, under
Resolution No. ;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT HEREBY RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PLYMOUTH,
MINNESOTA, that it should and hereby does direct the following conditions to be met
prior to filing of and regarding said Lot Consolidation:
1. Compliance with the City Engineer's Memorandum.
2. No Building Permit to be issued until the Lot Consolidation is filed with Hennepin
County.
3. Submittal of all necessary utility easements prior to filing Lot Consolidation
with Hennepin County.
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION JANUARY 23, 1985
RECOMMENDATION A
APPROVING SITE PLAN, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND VARIANCE FOR ADVANCE MACHINE (A-519)
WHEREAS, Advance Machine has requested approval of a Site Plan, Conditional Use
Permit and Variance for the construction of a expansion to their building located
north of 21st Avenue between Fernbrook Lane and Niagara Lane; and
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission has reviewed said request at a duly called Public
Hearing and recommends approval of the expansion to the building;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT HEREBY RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PLYMOUTH,
MINNESOTA, that it should and hereby does approve the request for Advance Machine
for a Site Plan, Conditional Use Permit and Variance for the expansion to the
facility located on the north of 21st Avenue between Fernbrook Lane and Niagara
Lane, subject to the following conditions:
1. Compliance with City Engineer's Memorandum.
2. Payment of park dedication fees -in -lieu of dedication in accordance with Dedi-
cation Policy in effect at the time of Building Permit issuance.
3. Submission of required financial guarantee and performance agreement for comple-
tion of site improvements.
4. Any subsequent phases of expansions are subject to required reviews and
approvals per Ordinance provisions.
5. All waste and waste containers shall be stored within the approved enclosure.
6. The Conditional Use Permit for temporary outside storage, is subject to all
applicable codes, regulations and ordinances, and violation thereof shall be
grounds for revocation;
7. The Conditional Use Permit is issued to the petitioner/tenant as operator of the
facility and shall not be transferable.
PLEASE SEE PAGE TWO
Page two
Planning Recommendation January 23, 1985
8. The site shall be maintained in a sanitary manner.
9. All waste and waste containers shall be stored within approved designated areas as
diagrammed on the plans dated August 24, 1984.
10. The permit shall be renewed in one (1) year to assure compliance with the
conditions.
11. Future development of this site shall be consistent with the approved Master Plan.
12. Appropriate legal documents establishing a covenant on the property shall be
approved by the City Attorney, and filed at Hennepin County identifying that the
future use of the building may require the construction of a parking ramp to
satisfy Ordinance parking requirements.
13. Approved Variances include:
a.) Lot Coverage as per the submitted Master Plan at 46.2%; and,
b.) The landscape plan shall contain a provision for 172 plantings, plus 38
additional plantings at 1 inch minimum size to provide screening of the east
and west perimeters.
RECOMMENATIONS FOR JANUARY 23, 1985
RECOMMENDATION B
APPROVING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT, SITE PLAN, AND VARIANCE FOR HENNEPIN
COUNTY PARK RESERVE DISTRICT (84065)
WHEREAS, the Hennepin County Park Reserve District has requested approval of a
Conditional Use Permit Amendment, Site Plan, and Variance for relocating the parking
lot area for the District Headquarters within the Clifton E. French Regional Park; and,
WHEREAS, the City Council approved a Conditional Use Permit, Site Plan, and Variance
for the location of the District Headquarters within the Clifton E. French Regional
Park on September 24, 1984 through Resolution No. 84-669; and,
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission has reviewed said request at a duly called Public
Hearing and recommends approval;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT HEREBY RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PLYMOUTH,
MINNESOTA, that it should and hereby does approve the request for relocating the
parking lot area for the District Headquarters, subject to the following conditions:
1.
Compliance with City Engineer's Memorandum.
2.
Compliance with Policy Resolution No. 79-80 regarding minimum floor
elevations for
new structures on sites adjacent to, or containing any open storm
water drainage
facility.
3.
Submission of required financial guarantee and performance
agreement for
completion of site improvements.
4.
Any subsequent phases or expansions are subject to required reviews and approvals
per Ordinance provisions.
5.
All waste and waste containers shall be stored within the enclosure
and no outside
storage is permitted.
6.
Compliance with Resolution No. 82-235.
7.
Waiver of the fire lane requirements.
8. Prior to issuance of a Building Permit, a structural analysis prepared by a
structural engineer who is registered in the State of Minnesota shall be provided
to the Building Official, confirming that the use of the existing building for
purposes other than residential meet and/or exceed the Uniform Building Code
requirements.
9. Resolution No. 84-669 is hereby rescinded.
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR JANUARY 23, 1985
RECOMMENDATION C
SETTING CONDITIONS TO BE MET PRIOR TO FILING AND REGARDING LOT DIVISION FOR ALFRED
EBERLE, JR. (84104)
WHEREAS, the City Council has approved a Lot Division for Alfred Eberle, Jr. for
property located North of Ridgemount Avenue and East of Zachary Lane under Resolution
No. 85- ;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT HEREBY RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PLYMOUTH,
MINNESOTA, that it should and hereby does direct the following conditions to be met
prior to filing of and regarding said Lot Division:
1. Compliance with the City Engineer's Memorandum
2. No yard setback variances are granted or implied.
3. Payment of park dedication fees -in -lieu of dedication for Parcel A prior to
filing of the Division in accordance with City Policy in effect at the time of
filing of the Division. Parcel B is subject to park dedication requirements at
the time of further division.
4. No Building Permit to be issued until the Lot Division is filed with Hennepin
County for Parcel A.
5. Appropriate documents shall be filed on all parcels indicating that in conjunction
with this division, conceptual documents have been placed on file with the City
for future reference.
6. Submittal of all necessary utility easements prior to filing Lot Division
with Hennepin County.
7. Approved Variances: Lot width of 100 ft. rather than 110 ft. for Parcel B.
8. The driveway for Parcel A shall be constructed with a "T" so that traffic onto
Zachary Lane shall be in a forward motion.
9. No further division of Parcel B, by means other than platting.
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR JANUARY 23, 1985
RECOMMENDATION D
SETTING CONDITIONS TO BE MET PRIOR TO FILING AND REGARDING LOT CONSOLIDATION/DIVISION
FOR DAVID VOLKER AND THOMAS BETZ (84109)
WHEREAS, the City Council has approved a Lot Consolidation/Lot Division for
David Volker and Thomas Betz for property at 2830 Brockton Lane and 2815 Alvarado Lane
under Resolution No. 85- ;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT HEREBY RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PLYMOUTH,
MINNESOTA, that it should and hereby does direct the following conditions to be met
prior to filing of and regarding said Lot Consolidation/Lot Division:
1. Compliance with the City Engineer's Memorandum
2. Submittal of all necessary utility easements prior to filing (Lot Division) (Lot
Consolidation) with Hennepin County.
3. Approved Variances: To divide property by metes and bounds description rather
than platting.
4. Parcel shall be deeded to the City for Right -Of -Way purposes.
5. The common property line shall be adjusted to the south appropriately to provide a
minimum 3 ft. setback to the garage.
THE CITY OF PLYMOUTH
BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENTS AND APPEALS
JANUARY 14, 1985
The Regular Meeting of the Board of Zoning Adjustments and
Appeals was called to order at 7:30 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Marofsky, Commissioners
Quass, Cornelius, Bigelow, Musatto,
Plufka
MEMBERS ABSENT: Commissioner Victor
STAFF PRESENT: Chief Building Official Al Kleinbeck,
Associate Planner Al Cottingham
MINUTES
MOTION was made by Commissioner Plufka, seconded by
Commissioner Mussato to approve the September 10, 1984
Minutes as amended. VOTE. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried.
MOTION by Commissioner Plufka, seconded by Commissioner
Mussato to approve the October 1, 1984 Minutes as
submitted. VOTE. 4 Ayes. Commissioners Quass and Cornelius
abstained. MOTION carried.
NEW BUSINESS
Chairman Marofsky introduced the request submitted by Mr. MR. RUSSELL KING
Russell King for a variance from the Shoreland Management 10000 SHORE DRIVE
setbacks for property located at 10000 South Shore Drive. He PLYMOUTH, MN 55441
introduced the Board Members and informed Mr. King of the
duties that the Board has.
Mr. King addressed the Board regarding his request and
reviewed the history of this home, and the fact that the
slab that the proposed three season porch would be located
on, was poured approximately 25 years ago and at the time
when it was poured, it was done so with frost footings so
that at some point in time they could build a structure on
top of it.
He reviewed the area surrounding his property noting that
there is current industrial development across the road
from him with a couple of very large industrial buildings
and very little screening between these buildings and his
home. He also noted that many other homes along the lake
were much closer to the Oridinary High Water Mark than this
proposed porch would be and that he felt this would not
hinder anyones view of the lake from their homes. He went on
to state that there is no room on either side of the
existing home to add the three season porch since the lot is
narrow and the house is built to it's extremes on the sides
already.
He stated that if he were allowed to add the three season
porch it would help provide an insulating factor in the
winter, from the winds that blow off the lake. He felt that
this addition is not being done to increase the value of the
home or would it be detremental to anyone's health, welfare
or safetv of the adinininn nrnno"fv ^wno"c
Page 2
Board of Zoning Minutes
January 14, 1985
The Board discussed other variances that had been granted in
the area, noting that the only variance that had been
granted in regards to a Shoreland setback was to Mr. Tony
Benthin and that was approved by the Council after the Board
had denied the request.
The Board disucssed the factors that the slab was existing
and that the porch addition would not be generating any more
impervious surface to this lot since this ground is already
covered. The Board reviewed other existing structures around
the lake noting that many of them are much closer than this
structure, and that one of the adjoining property owners is
closer to the lake than Mr. King's request would be.
The Board looked at the location for placing a three season
porch and noted that it would encroach only four feet closer
to the Ordinary High Water Mark of the lake than the
existing structure since part of the slab was set back to
the house.
MOTION by Commissioner Plufka, seconded by Commissioner RECOMMENDATION
Bigelow to recommend approval of the variance request for
Mr. Russell King, 10000 South Shore Drive for the following
reasons and conditions:
1. The physical surroundings
allow for an addition to be
location.
2. The addition would not
Impervious surface than what
site.
3. The variance is approved
petitioner has satisfied the
granting variance.
of the property do not
placed at any other
be creating any more
Is already located on the
on the findings that the
Ordinance standards for
4. The variance is granted to allow the construction
design reflected on the plan in the Staff Report, dated
January 7, 1985.
5. No other variances are granted or implied by this
action.
6. There are similar situations in this neighborhood.
7. The addition does not constitute an expansion of the
permanent dwelling.
VOTE. 6 Ayes. MOTION carried.
ADJOURNFNT
The meeting adjourned at 8:50 P.M.
VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
•
1985 payable "Residential'
taxes at the left are calc
ulated with the Mill Rates
as shown. Mill Rates do
include Storm Sewer not
Watershed Districts.
The calculation of the
"ASSESSED" values for the
various property types are
as follows:
RESIDENTIAL
lot 31,000 @ 17%
2nd 31,000 @ 19%
Balance @ 30%
Non -Hurst @ 28%
HOMESTEAD CREDIT:
54% of "Gross Tax"
on lot $67,000 of ENV
not to exceed $650.
COMMERCIAL/INDUSTRIAL:
lot 60,000 @ 28%
Balance @ 43%
LAND (Vacant): @ 40%
AGRICULTURAL (Farm):
lot 62,000 @ 14%
Balance @ 19%
AG CREDIT:
Homestead 33%
Non -Hurst. 15%
(up to 320 Acres)
BLIND/DISABLED:
lot 31,000 @ 5%
2nd 31,000 @ 19%
Balance @ 30%
1/23/85 MMA
ASSESSING DIVISION
CITY OF PLYMOUTH
1985
PAYABLE TAXES
1984
WAYZATA
ROBBINSDALE
OSSEO
HOPKINS
ESTIMATED
Dist. #284
Dist. #281
Dist. #279
Dist. #270
MARKET
MILL RATE:
96.978
MILL RATE:
106.571
MILL RATE:
101.670
MILL RATE:
93.038
VALUE
TAR
TAX
TAX
TAR
TAR
TAX
TAX
TAR
HOMESTEAD
NON-HMST
HOMESTEAD
NON-HMST
HOMESTEAD
NON-HMST
HOMESTEAD
NON -HMS
$25,000
$ 189
$ 679
$ 208
$ 746
$ 199
$ 712
$ 181
$ 651
30,000
228
815
251
895
239
854
218
782
35,000
268
950
295
1044
282
996
259
912
40,000
311
1086
342
1194
327
1139
298
1042
45,000
354
1222
389
1343
371
1281
340
1172
50,000
396
1358
435
1492
414
1423
380
1303
55,000
438
1493
482
1641
459
1566
421
1433
60,000
480
1629
528
1790
504
1708
461
1563
65,000
538
1965
635
1940
576
1850
517
1693
70,000
665
1901
795
2089
729
1993
612
1824
75,000
810
2037
955
2238
881
2135
751
1954
80,000
956
2172
1115
2387
1034
2277
891
2084
85,000
1101
2308
1275
2536
1186
2420
1030
2214
90,000
1247
2444
1435
2686
1339
2562
1170
2345
95,000
1392
2580
1095
2835
1491
2704
1309
2475
100,000
1538
2715
1754
2984
1644
2847
1449
2605
105,000
1683
2851
1914
3133
1796
2989
1588
2735
110,000
1829
2987
2074
3282
1949
3131
1728
2866
115,000
1974
3123
2234
3432
2065
3274
1868
2996
120,000
2120
3258
2394
3581
2254
3416
2007
3126
125,000
2265
3394
2554
3730
2406
3558
2147
3256
130,000
2411
3530
2713
3879
2559
3701
2286
3387
135,000
2556
3666
2873
4028
2711
3843
2426
3517
140,000
2702
3802
3033
4178
2864
3985
2565
3647
145,000
2847
3937
3193
4328
3016
4128
2705
3777
150,000
2992
4073
3353
4476
3169
4270
2845
3908
160,000
3283
4345
3673
4774
3474
4555
3124
4168
170,000
3574
4616
3992
5073
3779
4839
3401
4429
180,000
3865
4888
4312
5371
4084
5124
3682
4689
190,000
4156
5159
4632
5670
4389
5409
3961
4950
200,000
4447
5430
4951
5968
4694
5694
4240
5210
225,000
5175
6110
5751
6714
5456
6405
4938
5861
11
250,000
5902
6788
6550
7460
6219
7117
5636
6513
275,000
6629
7467
7349
8206
6981
7829
6333
7164
300,000
7357
8146
8149
8952
7744
8540
7031
7815
350,000
8811
9504
9747
10444
9269
9964
8427
9119
•
1985 payable "Residential'
taxes at the left are calc
ulated with the Mill Rates
as shown. Mill Rates do
include Storm Sewer not
Watershed Districts.
The calculation of the
"ASSESSED" values for the
various property types are
as follows:
RESIDENTIAL
lot 31,000 @ 17%
2nd 31,000 @ 19%
Balance @ 30%
Non -Hurst @ 28%
HOMESTEAD CREDIT:
54% of "Gross Tax"
on lot $67,000 of ENV
not to exceed $650.
COMMERCIAL/INDUSTRIAL:
lot 60,000 @ 28%
Balance @ 43%
LAND (Vacant): @ 40%
AGRICULTURAL (Farm):
lot 62,000 @ 14%
Balance @ 19%
AG CREDIT:
Homestead 33%
Non -Hurst. 15%
(up to 320 Acres)
BLIND/DISABLED:
lot 31,000 @ 5%
2nd 31,000 @ 19%
Balance @ 30%
1/23/85 MMA
ASSESSING DIVISION
January 21, 1985
Mrs. Robert J. Madsen
3720 Trenton Lane North
Plymouth, MN 55441
Dear Mrs. Madsen:
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CITY C�
PLYMOUTF+
You recently attended a Town Meeting, and indicated that you would like to be sent
Notice of Meetings regarding development in the vicinity of the Holiday Plus Store,
north of County Road 9.
There are numerous properties in this area, and they may come to our attention at
various times. I have requested Community Development Coordinator Sara McConn to place
a note in appropriate files to see that you are sent notices. Since this could cover a
substantial period of time, I would also suggest that you periodically call the
Community Development Department, and ask what if any development proposals are pending
for this area. This will assure that you have current information regarding
development in this area.
Also, we have recently been placing a copy of the
Channel 7 for the benefit of those citizens who
The City Council Agenda's are also copied on that
Thank you for your request.
Sincerely,
Blair Tremere, Directo *t—
Community Development
BT/gw
cc: File
Assistant City Manager Frank Boyles
Community Development Coordinator Sara McConn
Planning Commission Agenda on cable
have subscribed to cable television.
channel.
January 21, 1985
Ms. Joyce Humboldt
4130 Ximines Lane North
Plymouth, MN 55441
Dear Ms. Humboldt:
Q.
CITY C�
PLYMOUTR
You recently attended a Town Meeting, and indicated that you would like to be sent
Notice of Meetings regarding improvements and platting for the area known as Rockford
Square, which is in the northeast quadrant of Nathan Lane and County Road 9.
There are numerous properties in this area, and they may come to our attention at
various times. I have requested Community Development Coordinator Sara McConn to place
a note in appropriate files to see that you are sent notices. Since this could cover a
substantial period of time, I would also suggest that you periodically call the
Community Development Department, and ask what if any development proposals are pending
for this area. This will assure that you have current information regarding
development in this area.
Also, we have recently been placing a copy of the Planning Commission Agenda on cable
Channel 7 for the benefit of those citizens who have subscribed to cable television.
The City Council Agenda's are also copied on that channel.
Thank you for your request.
Sincerely,
"—'+,
ai, L W i/i'—p
Blair Tremere, Director
Community Development
BT/gw
cc: File
Assistant City Manager Frank Boyles
Community Development Coordinator Sara McConn
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447, TELEPHONE (612) 559.2800
January 28, 1985
Mr. Dave Nygren
420 Berkshire Lane
Plymouth, Minnesota 55441
Dear Mr. Nygren:
r
CITY C�
PLYMOUTR
I have talked with the representative of Northern States Power Company con-
cerning the installation of a new street light or the relocation of the exist-
ing street light along County Road 15 in the vicinity of Berkshire Lane. Any
new lights that are installed would only be temporary because of the construc-
tion projects that will begin this summer. For this reason, NSP does not want
to install any new lighting.
In order that better lighting can be provided on the temporary detour route on
County Road 15, I have directed NSP to reorientate the existing street light at
the intersection of County Road 15 and Berkshire Lane. The existing street
light will be turned 180° in order that it will be over the temporary roadway.
Sincerely,
Fred G. Moore, P.E.
Director of Public Works
FGM:bw
cc: Frank Boyles
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447. TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
January 29, 1985
Carol Decker
2805 Revere Circle
Plymouth, Minnesota
Dear Ms Decker:
55441
r
CITY OF
PLYMOUTH+
In response to your concern of persons failing to stop on Mission Ridge
Road and 29th Avenue North, I have referred this matter to Sergeant
Dennis Paulson the supervisor of the Plymouth Patrol Division. He will
schedule surveillance of this stop sign; and, particularly during the
hours when traffic from Armstrong High School is departing after 2:30 p.m..
If you should have continued concerns regarding the failure of vehicles
to stop at the stop sign in question, or any other traffic related matter
please do not hesitate to contact either Sergeant Paulson or myself directly.
Thank you for your time, consideration, and input.
Si_�rely,
Richard J. Wrlquisi'
Public Safety Director
PLYMOUTH PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT
RJC:tsw
cc: James G. Willis, City Manager
Dennis Paulson, Sergeant
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447, TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
January 29, 1985
Harvey Weiss
2845 Medicine Ridge Road
Plymouth, Minnesota 55441
Dear Mr. Weiss:
This lett
form obta
your info
many ques
time. Th
positive
CITY OF
PLYMOUTI+
er is in response to the questions that ,you
ined at the Plymouth Town Meeting held on Ja
rmation I am meeting with the Medicine Lake
tions raised regarding the use of Medicine L
is meeting will take place February 5, 1985
results will be achieved.
raised on
nuary 14,
Task Force
ake during
and I hope
the feedback
1985. For
concerning
the winter
that some
For your information snowmobiles on Medicine Lake are lecal. They are also
legal on our City streets. However, how one enters Medicine Lake is another
question of legality. In other words, only authorized access points are legal
under the law to enter upon Medicine Lake. Generally speaking, the same access
points that the ice fishermen use during the winter time would more than likely
be considered legal.
I hope that this clarifies the questions that you raised
of snowmobiles on Medicine Lake. I understand that there
the same meeting as you who also had questions concerning
have written many letters in response to questions raised
town meeting as you, and I hope that I have touched bases
most difficulty with this question.
Thank you for your time, consideration, and input.
Sincerely,
�J�
V
ard J. Ca quilt
Public Safety irector
PLYMOUTH PUBLIC SAFETY
RJC:tsw
cc: James G. Willis, City Manager
Dennis Paulson, Sergeant
concerning the legality
were others who attended
this same topic. I
by persons at the same
with those who had the
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447, TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
January 29, 1985
Mrs. Robert Medser
3720 Trenton Lane
Plymouth, Minnesota 55441
Dear Mrs. Medser:
v;
CITY OF
PLYMOUTH+
This letter is in response to your questions raised on a recent feedback
form submitted at the Plymouth Town Meeting held on January 14, 1985.
I share your concern regarding the illegal vehicle traffic on the park
path from Pilgrim Lane School to Union Terrace Lane. I have referred
this matter to Sergeant Paulson of the Plymouth Police Department Patrol
Division.
We will direct officers during our roll call time prior
shift to pay special attention to the problem that you
also add that it would be very helpful for you to call
occurrences are happening.
Thank you for your time, consideration and input.
Sincerely,
Richard J. rlqui
Public Saf y Director
PLYMOUTH PUBLIC SAFETY
RJC:tsw
cc: James G. Willis, City Manager
Dennis Paulson, Sergeant
to the start of a
raised. I might
us when these
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447, TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
CITY OF
PLYMOUTH+
January 29, 1985
Florence H. Larson
2930 Medicine Ridge Road
Plymouth, Minnesota 55441
Dear Ms Larson:
This letter is in response to your questions raised on a feedback form at a
recent town meeting held on January 14, 1985. In the near future we will be
assigning police officers to surveil the stop sign located on 29th Avenue North
and Medicine Ridge Road, as well as conduct radar surveillance during the
peak usage times of this road.
Please be assured that the Plymouth Police Department is not afraid to
enforce the laws. Last year, we issued over 8,500 traffic citations. We
also arrested over 1,000 persons.
Thank you for your time, consideration, and input.
Sincerely,
Richard J. rlquis
Public Saf ty Direc or
PLYMOUTH PUBLIC SAFETY
RJC:tsw
cc: James G. Willis, City Manager
Dennis Paulson, Sergeant
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447, TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
CITY OF
PLYMOUTI+
January 29, 1985
Steve Kluck
2660 East Medicine Lake Boulevard
Plymouth, Minnesota 55441
Dear Mr. Kluck:
This letter is in response to your questions raised on a feedback form
from the recent town meeting held on January 14, 1985. On February 5, 1985
I will be meeting with the Medicine Lake Task Force concerning most if not
all of the issues that you raised. For your information, it is the policy
of this department not to drive on Medicine Lake with marked police units.
This policy has been in place for the past twenty years.
I intend to direct some undercover police operations with every intention
of making arrests for drug and alcohol violations. I hope our actions will
make some positive impact.
Thank you for your time, consideration, and input.
Sincerely,
Richard J. rlquis
Public Safety Director
PLYMOUTH PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT
RJC:tsw
cc: James G. Willis, City Manager
Dennis Paulson, Sergeant
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447, TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
CITY OF
January 29, 1985 PLYMOUTR
Al Hendrickson
3615 Forestview Lane
Plymouth, Minnesota 55441
Dear Mr. Hendrickson:
This letter is written in response to your question written on a feedback form at the
recent town meeting, held on January 14, 1985. Your question was related to trucks
entering dead ends or residential areas and raised the possibility of the City
establishing truck routes. I personally don't know why trucks would be entering the
dead end on 36th Avenue unless, 1) they were lost and did not see the dead end sign
or 2) they had business in the area of moving furniture or construction materials. I
am not sure from your letter how frequently this problem arises.
If the problem is related to construction in the area, that should be a temporary one
in nature. However, if the problem relates to low visibility of the dead end sign,
then that is a problem that we could perhaps correct be relocating it. In the past
I have personally driven this road on many occasions and I have found the dead end
sign adequately visible to forewarn motorists appropriately. Nevertheless, I will
send a copy of this letter to the Director of Public Works for his information and
possible follow up. Since Plymouth is a developing community, that may involve more
truck traffic than usual, I am delaying any other overt action at this time.
However, I would like to hear from you in the near future if this problem continues
to exist. During the spring I assign two officers to truck details on our City and
County roads. Their specific duties are to apprehend violators of the weight
restrictions imposed on our City streets during the spring of the year. It certainly
would be no problem to direct these officers to your area in the event a problem still
exists.
Thank you for your time, consideration, and input.
Sin erely,
Richard J. Ca lquist
Public Safet Director
PLYMOUTH PUBLIC SAFETY
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Dennis Paulson, Sergeant
Fred Moore, Director of Public Works
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447, TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
CITY OF
PLYMOUTH+
January 29, 1985
Joyce Humboldt
4130 Ximines Lane North
Plymouth, Minnesota 55441
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Dear Ms Humboldt:
This letter is in response to your concern listed on a feedback form
at a recent town meeting held on January 14, 1985. On February 5, 1985
I will be meeting with members of a Medicine Lake Task Force. The
questions that you raise on your feedback form will be addressed at
that time.
In addition, I will be detailing some undercover enforcement in the
near future on Medicine Lake.
I do not allow our officers to drive our marked units on Medicine Lake.
That has been a policy of this Department for over twenty years. I
hope that our undercover actions will be successful and make some impact
on the problems you describe.
Thank you for your time, consideration, and input.
Sincerely,
Richard J. C lquis
Public Safet Direc or
PLYMOUTH PUBLIC SAFETY
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cc: James G. Willis, City Manager
Dennis Paulson, Sergeant
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447, TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
January 29, 1985
Peter Tysdal
3015 East Medicine Lake Boulevard
Plymouth, Minnesota 55441
Dear Mr. Tysdal:
This letter is in response to the question that you raised on your
feedback form obtained at the recent Plymouth Town Meeting held on
January 14, 1985. I have referred this matter concerning vandalism
and auto break-ins to both the Sergeant in charge of the Patrol
Division and the Community Relations Officer. The latter person
mentioned deals primarily with crime prevention measures that can be
taken. We will also inform our officers during roll call prior to the
start of their shift of the problem that you are experiencing.
Please do not hesitate to contact us via 911 if you should observe
anything suspicious, or need immediate police assistance.
Thank you for your time, consideration, and input.
Sincerely,
Richard J. Carlquist
Public Safety Director
PLYMOUTH PUBLIC SAFETY
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Dennis Paulson, Sergeant
Robert Nesbitt, Community Relations Officer
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CITY OF
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Mr. David Key
40 Quantico Lane
Plymouth, MN 55447
Dear Mr. Key:
Thank you for your letter of January 10 addressed to Mayor Davenport.
County Road 15 is currently under the jurisdiction of the Hennepin County
Department of Transportation, as you may know. It is anticipated that the
County will "turn back" the road to the City within the next 12 months.
This action will not alter the primary function of the roadway, but will put
the City squarely in the position of being responsible for the maintenance
and potential upgrading of the road.
The segment of County Road 15 between Niagara Lane and Vicksburg Lane is
classified in the City's Thoroughfare Guide Plan as a "major collector".
Major collectors are roadways designed to distribute traffic to the arterial
roadway system from "minor collectors" and from major traffic generators.
The arterials in this area include County Road 15 from Highway 12 to Vicks-
burg Lane, Vicksburg Lane, the new Carlson Parkway, County Road 6 and, of
course, I-494.
In 1980 the City received a traffic study dealing with the impacts of an
interchange at I-494 and County Road 15 (Carlson Parkway). A copy of that
study is available for your review in the City Engineer's office.
Essentially the report concluded that with continued development and
the construction of the interchange at I-494, projected traffic would
increase from an afternoon peak hour of 501 in 1980 to 1230 in the year
2000. In terms of total daily traffic, we would anticipate that by the
year 2000 the average daily traffic will increase to about 15,375 from about
6300 in 1980. If these projections are accurate, it will be necessary to
widen the present road. Roads such as existing County Road 15 have a
capacity of between 8,000 and 10,000 vehicles per day. The City currently
has no plans to undertake the widening of County Road 15.
I am enclosing a graphic representing the roadway alignment in the Carlson
Center project area. You will note that the interchange at I-494 connects
directly to Carlson Parkway. Carlson Parkway also connects to Highway 12.
The traffic projections for the new interchange at I-494 indicate that the
vast majority of the traffic will be serving the commercial/industrial
properties on either side of I-494.
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447, TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
Mr. David Key
January 28, 1985
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Speed limits on all roads in Minnesota are established following traffic
studies conducted by the Minnesota Department of Transportation. Local
units of government do not have the authority to establish speed limits.
The City Council has on several occasions petitioned the Commissioner of
Transportation to undertake speed studies on various roads in the
community. These speed studies generally conclude that the existing posted
speed limits are "reasonable". The City is responsible for enforcing posted
speed limits and we are prepared to undertake more aggressive speed enforce-
ment in those areas where we become aware of particular problems.
Historically, County Road 15 throughout Plymouth has received substantial
speed enforcement activity. I will ask the City's Public Safety Director to
monitor the speed of traffic in your area and take enforcement action as may
be required.
If you have any further questions regarding this matter, please do not
hesitate to contact me.
Yours truly,
Ja es G. Willis
Cit Manager
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DEAR MAYOR:
I WISH TO REGE:STER A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE PUBLIC ACCESS WHICH
HAS BEEN CREATED ON THE S.E. SIDE OF MEDICINE LAKE.
AT THE MOMENT (10:40 P.M.) THERE IS A VARIETY OF VEHICLES
ATTEMPTING TO EITHER DRIVE ON TO OR OFF FROM THE LAKE VIA
THIS ACCESS. I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THE ICE FISHERMEN AND
OTHER "SPORTSMEN" WHO USE THIS ACCESS, THEY DON'T CREATE THE
PROBLEM. RATHER IT IS THE CONSTANT STREAM OF 'JOY RIDERS'
WHO SEE THE ACCESS AND DECIDE TO GIVE IT A TRY.
WE NOW CAN HEAR HORNS HONKING, CARS AND TRUCKS ROARING AND
AS I SAID IT'S 10:40 P.M. OH, DID I MENTION WE ALSO
HAVE TWO YOUNG CHILDREN WHO COULD USE SOME SLEEP'
MY REQUEST IS TO CONSIDER MOVING THIS ACCESS OR CLOSING IT.
THERE ARE ANY NUMBER OF GOOD REASONS TO CONSIDER THIS
REGUEST. LET ME LIST A FEW.
1. TRAFFIC HAZARD, ALL "LAKE TRAFFIC" MUST MERGE WITH THE
REGULAR TRAFFIC AT A CORNER.... NOT A TREMENDOUS IDEA.
2. SNOW PROBLEMS, AS YOU MAY KNOW PREVAILING WINTER WINDS
ARE FROM THE NORTH WEST WHICH MAKES DRIFTING THE GREATEST ON
THE SOUTH EAST SIDE OF A LAKE. WHERE IS THIS ACCESS
LOCATED? WHY, IT'S QUITE NATURALLY ON THE S.E. SIDE'
3. RELATED TO N0.2 IS THE PROBLEM CREATED BY PLOWING A PATH
THROUGH THE SNOW TO THE LAKE. WHEN YOU PLOW SNOW YOU CREATE
SNOW PILES (SURPRISED?),THESE PILES THEN ACT AS A MEANS TO
CTEATE EVEN HIGHER WIND DRIVEN SNOWDRIFTS ON THE ROAD.
4. TRAFFIC VOLUME, I'M SURE IF YOU SAW THE AMOUNT OF
VEHICLES USING THIS THING YOU WOULD AT LEAST BE SURPRISED.
ON SUN. 1/17/85 WHILE SITTING IN THE KITCHEN OF OUR HOUSE I
DECIDED TO COUNT THE PEOPLE USING THE ACCESS. I QUIT
COUNTING AFTER 15 MINUTES. 52 CARS AND TRUCKS USED THE
ACCESS IN 15 MINS. THATS OVER 200 PER HOUR' ALL TRYING TO
MERGE INTO THE REGULAR ROAD TRAFFIC, AND AT A CORNER. WHAT
GIVES HERE?
I HAVE LIVED AT THIS HOUSE FOR TEN YEARS AND I DON'T BELIEVE
THERE HAVE BEEN AS MANY PROBLEMS WITH THE STREET IN FRONT OF
MY HOME UNTIL THIS ACCESS WAS CREATED AND I DO RELIVE IT IS
GETTING WORSE EACH YEAR. I AM ALL IN FAVOR OF PEOPLE USING ---
MEDICINE LAKE, BUT I DO NOT FEEL THIS IS WISE USE OF A �iREAT
RESOURCE.
IF YOU OR SOMEONE FROM THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO WATCH THE
'GOINGS-ON' OVER A CUP OF HOT COFFEE FROM MY KITCHEN PLEASE
LET ME KNOW AND I'LL MAKE TIME FOR A DEMONSTRATION.
THANK YOU.
SINCERELY,
''VM MILLER
1800 E, MEDICINE LK. BLVD.
PLYMOUTH, MN. 55441
January 29, 1985
Tom Miller I CITY OF
1800 East Medicine Lake Blvd. PUMOUTR
Plymouth, MN 55441
Dear Mr. Miller:
Mayor Davenport has asked that I respond to your letter dated January 21, 1985.
In 1981, when the design for East Medicine Lake Beach was underway, the City
wrestled with the issue of ice fishing access to Medicine Luke. The Park and
Recreation Advisory Commission and the City Council were unanimous in their
feelings that we had to provide access to Medicine Lake for the ice fisher-
men on both the west side and the east side of the lake. They also hoped
that the regional park on the north end would provide a public access for
ice fishing, which, in fact, opened the winter of 1984.
The strong feeling for providing public access was fueled because of the
numerous calls the City received from residents around the entire shoreline
complaining about ice fishermen driving their vehicles on and off the ice
at any location they wanted. It was for this reason the City Council
specifically stated they wanted to provide access to Medicine Lake somewhere
along the east beach location. We chose the area just north of the 18th
Avenue intersection because the ground was level there, and it appeared to be
the easiest location to get to and from the ice. We also felt that by keeping
the intersection close to 18th Avenue, the cars would actually use 18th Avenue
to enter and exit the lake and would not cause a large number of traffic trips
up and down East Medicine Lake Boulevard.
I will concede that the point you have raised in your letter with regard to
this being a possible traffic hazard may have merit. Therefore, we are going
to closely monitor this situation in the next few weeks and make a determina-
tion about the advisability of moving the public access approximately 100
yards further north of 18th Avenue. This may alleviate the problem with
regard to the access interfering with the cars going around the corner of
18th Avenue and East Medicine Lake Boulevard. It could also have the effect
of increasing traffic on East Medicine Lake Boulevard.
With regard to your concern about horns honking and cars and trucks roaring,
I have asked Dick Carlquist, Director of Public Safety, to see if there is
anything his department can do to help with this problem.
Thank you for bringing your concerns to our attention. If you have any further
questions about this access, please call me.
Sincerely,
Eric J. Aa?A'Irr�ec.r
Park and Recreation Dept.
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Public Safety Director
3400 PLY%1OUTH BOULEVARD. PLYMOUTH. mj1 .^4ESOTA 55447, TELEPHONE X612) 559-2800
January 28, 1985
Mr. Keith Ford
Office of the Governor
State of Minnesota
St. Paul, MN 55155
Keith,
CITY OF
PLYMOUTFF
Thank you for your reply to my letter of January 8th.
I do appreciate that with over 800 appointments per year it
is not possible for the Governor to submit his nominees to a
comment period.
As I am sure you appreciate, Metropolitan Council appointments
are so very important to the communities the Council serves.
Although the State Register publishes vacancies when they
occur, there is a culling out process for the applicants and
the media is frequently informed in advance about who the
nominees are for the Council. At least this was so in respect
to the Chairperson vacancy. Parenthetically I might add how
pleased in retrospect I am with the Governor's appointment of
Sandra Gardebring. I met Sandra personally at a recent meeting
of the Municipal Legislative Commission. She has a warm and
disarming style, and she is sincere in her intentions to
balance suburban and urban interests on the Council. Because
Sandra was not on the list of published nominees, I was some-
what apprehensive about her appointment, but I have nothing
but good things to say about her performance to date. She is
not particularly partisan and is skilled at consensus making.
Please compliment the Governor on this appointment.
Thank you aga-in for your note, Keith, and let's keep in
touch. I o apprec' t the promptness with which you have
alwa�ps r plied to etters.
Sif>ter'el
David J. Devenport
Mayor
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Mr. Reith Ford
Office of the Governor
January 28, 1985
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P.S. Reith, the Governor should also be complimented on his
appointment of Pete Meintsema to the Chair of the Waste
Control Commission. I visited with Pete for a few minutes
the other evening also at the MLC meeting. He is very
enthusiastic and extremely well qualified to serve in
that capacity.
RUDY PERPiCH
GOVER%OR
January 10, 1985
WAW of WNYIESMA
OPFxz of TmE Go TMNOR
ST. PAUL 55155
Honorable David J. Davenport
Mayor, City of Plymouth
3400 Plymouth Boulevard
Plymouth, MN 55447
Dear Mayor Davenport:
Thank you for your letter of January 8, 1985 in which you stated that
our request for your recommendations for the vacant Metropolitan
Council seats has, once again, come too late for you to become
informed about the current candidates and their qualifications.
We appreciate your comments and suggestion that we provide the names
and applications of individuals who are under consideration to you
for evaluation prior to your making informed recommendations.
However, we do not have the staffing to provide such a service.
All open appointment applications are on record with the Secretary
of State and are open to the public, should you care to look at them.
Vacancies are published in the State Register which may be found at
your county library. Also, should you personally know someone whom
you feel would qualify you might encourage him to apply in the future.
Again, thank you for writing.
Sincerely,
KEITH FORD
Office of the Governor
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DISTRICT ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES 210 NORTH STATE HIGHWAY 101 PO. BOX 660 WAYZATA, MN 55391-9990 (612) 473-1108
January 25, 1985
Dave Davenport, Mayor
CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 Plymouth Boulevard
Plymouth, MN 55447
Dear Dave:
Thank you for your letter. I look forward to working with you in
my new role as Chairman of the Wayzata Board of Education.
Education needs the alert support of our community. I hope that
the School Board can move to a position of dealing with policies
which affect education.
I'd be happy to have breakfast with you to discuss ideas. Call me
if you'd like to do that. My office number is 559-4321, and my
home number is 475-1125.
Again, Dave, thanks for taking the time to write me.
Sincerely yours,
mes C. Kemp, Chairman
oard of Education
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January 28, 1985
Mr. Steve L. Ricker
3530 Rosewood Lane
Plymouth, MN 55441
Dear Mr. Ricker:
I have previously corresponded with your wife, Lirda, in
response to a letter to the Editor of the Post that she
wrote regarding the Community Center. In October of last
year you also wrote a letter to the Editor of that paper
that I have been wanting to respond to for some time. Also,
I see that Linda continues to be active in District 284 and
I know both of you are frustrated with the District and
apparently the City as well.
The Plymouth Council did not "endorse this issue", that is,
the issue of the community center referendum. You are con-
fused about this. The referendum was placed on the ballot
after 800 -plus residents of Plymouth petitioned the City to
do so as provided for by State Law. Your statement that the
Council was "representing special interests in the community"
is not accurate. The citizens committee consisted of over
50 citizens, and if you were to examine the file of this
committee at City Center, you would know that the minutes of
the committee's deliberation reflected the negative views of
some of its members. I will concede that after months of Com-
mitee deliberations that when it became time to make recommendations
that the committee consisted of more proponents than opponents,
but I continue to feelthat the procesG that was employed to
consider such an important subject was the correct one and I
intend to continue my encouragement of citizens task forces to
evaluate issues of community -wide significance.
In your letter you suggest that "as elected representatives of
Plymouth, I believe that (the Council) should truly represent
the people by pursuing the following issues:". You then go on
to recite 5 things that should be done. Each of your suggestions
deserve a comment.
As far as legislative lobbying is concerned, the City has its
hands full just trying to protect our interests as a developing
community in the Legislature. Historically the Legislature
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD. PLYMOUTH. MINNESOTA 55447, TELEPHONE (612 559-280G
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Mr. Steve L. Ricker
January 28, 1985
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has been hostile to emerging suburbs like Plymouth and regres-
sive in its method of apportioning state aid. Plymouth,
Edina, Eden Prairie are frequently referred to as the "rich"
suburbs. That is not an accurate assessment, but one that
nevertheless the City must deal with in its legislative rela-
tions. In 1984 Plymouth joined with approximately 13 other
communities to form the Legislative Municipal Commission. The
Commission retained a law firm to lobby the Legislature and as
a result of the Commission's efforts, the 1984 Legislature
was more equitable in its tax and state aid treatment of the
suburbs. I attended a meeting of the LMC last evening and I
met with many state senators. I am confident our efforts will
result in more equitable tax treatment by the 1985 legislation.,
also.
You also think it's the City's responsibility to lobby the
Legislature on behalf of its 4 school districts. I disagree.
Historically the educational lobby in the state has been very
effective. But perhaps individual school districts should
coordinate with other districts with common interests to
lobby for these interests, as Plymouth has done through its
sponsorship and participation in the LMC.
Secondly, you suggest that the Council work the the other
school boards in Plymouth for the improvement of our local
school systems. I agree and the Council does. Councilmember
Pat Hoyt Neils is a member of the Advisory Council that
regularly meets with District 281. The Plymouth Council also
has individual members that act as liaison with the other
school districts. I have been active in the last few years
with District 284 in particular. Councilmember Maria Vasilicu
will be acting as liaison with District 284 in 1985, and she
had also served on at least one District task force prior to
becoming a Councilmember.
Thirdly, you urge us to work with County and State government
to stop unnecessary government spending. You also ask
parenthetically "when have Plymouth property taxes ever been
reduced?". Steve, your are misinformed about Plymouth property
taxes. I corresponded with Linda in October advising her that
taxes will be reduced slightly in Plymouth in 1985. With the
exception of the last couple of years, Plymouth has consistently
levied below the amount allowed by law. In the last 4 years we
levied to the maximum because we felt it was prudent to develop
a reasonable operating reserve to cover the City's cash flow
requirements rather than to pass on tax decreases that might
be politically popular but not wise fiscally. As you are
probably aware, District 284 has a zero reserve and I am sorry
Mr. Steve L. Ricker
January 28, 1985
-Page 3 -
that more people do not appreciate that fact because they
might be more receptive to the District's attempts to solve
its financial problems. Even though the District has a zero
reserve, it has a budget approximately 2-1/2 times as large
as Plymouth's. To compare the cost of government in Plymouth
with other communities, consider the fact that Plymouth has
fewer employees per thousand residents than any other community
you might fairly compare us to, including Minnetonka, Edina
and Eden Prairie. Since the highest cost in any governmental
budget is personnel, this is a very important statistic. In
October, a resident who had been critical of the City from
time to time attended the Council's public hearing on the
1985 budget. He complimented the City because of the attractive
ratio of personnel costs as a percentage of overall expenditures.
You suggest in your letter that the Council should work with
the Federal Government in correcting the service problems
surrounding the Plymouth post office. Thank you for pointing
out that "they are only located next to City Hall". The
service problems that you reference do exist, but they are
not directly controllable by the City. The Postal Department
is sensitive to congressional influence. If you haven't
written your congressman directly or Senators Durenberger or
Boschwitz about your complaints, may I suggest that you do
SO. You aren't the first person, certainly, to complain
about the post office, however; nor will you be the last.
I, too, hope that 1985 brings fewer complaints about the
post office.
Lastly, Steve, you suggest that the Council should look for
"other ways to save money for the citizens of Plymouth so
that perhaps a community center could be built and enjoyed
by everybody without a tax increase". In view of its over-
whelming defeat, I do not feel compelled to pursue a community
center at this time. A more important priority for me is
the continued fiscal management of the City. Because of our
expanding tax base, Plymouth should be able to consistently
pass on tax decreases to alleviate a portion of our residents'
property tax burdens, assuming we continue our conservative
fiscal management. The developing of a commercial and
industrial tax base permits Plymouth not only to reduce
taxes, but it also finances the other amenities that a young
but developing community needs.
Prior to 1985, the last property tax decrease that the City
passed on was in 1980. The four years since were used to
accumulate the cash flow reserve I earlier referred to. The
Mr. Steve L. Ricker
January 28, 1985
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last property tax decrease over all for those people residing
in the Osseo, Wayzata and Hopkins School District portions
of Plymouth was in 1981. Since the school districts receive
such a large percentage of the property tax dollar (at least
55%) when Plymouth decreases taxes, the property tax burden
may still increase overall because of increases by the
school districts or Hennepin County. Even a modest increase
in the school district or Hennepin County levies would
completely obliterate any decrease in Plymouth's portion of
the property tax dollar. Unfortunately for the Council,
most people look at the overall property tax burden and do
not look behind it to see what the individual taxing bodies
are doing or what percentage of the tax dollar they control
and consume.
I object to your comment that the Council represents only
the people who work at City Hall. The Plymouth Council
attempts to represent, within the limits of our abilities,
all people of our community. All of us serve at large. We
especially appreciate constructive input from citizens
speaking individually or through homeowner associations or
citizens committees, including the community center task
force. These people do not "shoot from the hip", rather,
they take the time and effort to become informed so that
they have more than a superficial knowledge of the subject
they are concerned about. Thank goodness for these individuals
because they apply the "tension" to the system that make it
work responsively.
When you criticize people who "lobby for special interests
at Council meetings" I respond by asking: are not you and
your wife, and others who are concerned about quality education
in District 284 a special interest? Are not the "quality
education people" a lobby? Of course they are, and they
should be. Some special interests are better organized than
others, but to suggest that special interests are wrong per
se is not correct. Special interests can be a positive or
negative force in government depending on their motives and
also depending on "whose ox is being gored".
So in closing, let me encourage you to continue to write
letters to the editor about matters that concern you. If
they involve Plymouth, please copy them to me, and I promise
you a response. However, before doing so, may I suggest you
contact me, another member of the Council or the City staff
to background yourself a little bit more on the matter you
are complaining of. This will serve the purpose of not only
better informing you, but it will add credibility to what
Mr. Steve L. Ricker
January 28, 1985
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you have to say. Debate is an essential part of the political
process, but informed debate elevates the whole process. If
you and Lindaould like tozeet and talk sometime, please
let me knock It would looklf6rward to it.
Sir ere y
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CITY OF
PLYMOUTFF
January 28, 1985
Ms. Pat Moen
1615 Yuma Lane
Plymouth, MN 55447
Dear Pat:
Monday night when we honored you for your service to Plymouth
I recited the Greek philosopher Plato's definition of citizen-
ship in a democracy as "participation in government". Sir
Francis Bacon also wrote it is "left only to God and to the
angels to be lookers-on".
When you sought elective office in Plymouth in 1981 you chose
not to be a "looner-on", standing on the sidelines. But
rather, because you believed that democracy can and must face
its problems, you waded into the fray seeking solutions that
were rarely easy to find. You served Plymouth conscientiously,
demonstrating conviction, a desire to help others who needed
help and always a true and genuine love for our community.
You never hesitated to speak out on things regardless of how
big or small they might be, how significant or insignificant,
and there were times following your election that you literally
worked full time as a Councilmember. You also were always
accessible to the people who sought you out for advice or to
express concern.
Pat, thank you for all that you have done for Plymouth. Thank
you also for supporting me when I believed it to be in the best
interest of the City to have unanimous Council support on a
matter of important policy. Do take special care. Plymouth
is indebtpelpd to you for the sacrifices (and they were great!)
tha ,yo m *-�to serve our community.
David X. Davenport
Mayor
DJD:CZ400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447, TELEPHONE (612) 5592800
January 28, 1985
Mrs. Jean Koski
15730 6th Avenue North
Plymouth, MN 55447
Dear Jean:
Rarely has someone's death touched a community as Bill's
death touched Plymouth. Maybe it was because during his
life Bill touched so much of our community.
The memorial service was very beautiful. Thank you for
allowing it to be at the High School so that the thousands
who mourned Bill's passing could celebrate his life through
Don Chillstrom's beautiful eulogy.
Bill's death is something we cannot understand, but his
brief sojourn on earth enriched the lives of many and as
Pastor Claus said, paraphrasing the gospel of John, Bill
has passed out of death into life. He has been entrusted
to God's never -failing love - the love that sustained him
in his life on earth and nurtures him now in Heaven.
It will be our prayers that you, Bill, Jr., Cynthia and
Kristen will be given courage and faith and the strength
to meet the days ahead, secure in the knowledge and in the
joyful expectation of one day being reunited again.
If there is anything I might do for you during your bereave-
ment, ple Sse)calA me. God Speed.
f
DJD: cap
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD. PLYMOUTH. MINNESOTA 55447. TELEPHONE (612) 5592800
PLYMOUTFF
January 28, 1985
Mrs. Robert Miggins
13416 County Road 15
Plymouth, MN 55441
Dear Mrs. Miggins:
I am pleased that Bob is continuing to show progress. I
know that you and your loved ones have been thrust into
the midst of something that is difficult to understand.
Please know that you, Bob and your family will continue
to receive the prayers of many, many people in Plymouth
to give you courage and faith so that you might have the
strength to meet the days ahead.
Please convey to Bob on behalf of all of Plymouth our
wishes for a most speedy convalescence and if there is
anything I might do for you or your family, please call
me.
Sin
Davie
Mayoz
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340G PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH. MINNESOTA 55447. TELEPH",' ' 2' .'''9-2800
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CITY 0F
PLYMOUTI4
January 28, 1985
Mr. Don Chillstrom
820 North Queensland Lane
Plymouth, MN 55447
Dear Don:
Bill Koski's death throws you and many others that were
touched by him into the midst of something that is not
easily understood, but your eulogy is something I will
never forget. Bill was a kind and a good man and now
that he has passed out of death into life, you and Bill's
other Christian friends may look forward with the joyful
expectation of being reunited with him again some day.
I know he was your best friend. Please accept my deepest
sympathies o his passing.
Sinc re ,
David J. en
Davport
Mayor /
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340G PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD. PLYMOUTH. MINNESOTA 55447, TELEPH'-- -.E f6-2 559•2c00
CITY OF
PUMOUTR
January 29, 1985
Mr. Paul Smith
Metropolitan Council
300 Metro Square Building
St. Paul, MN 55101
Dear Mr. Smith,
Please include the following comments as a part of the record of the public
hearing on the proposed regional Solid Wasce Management Development Guide/Policy
Plan. These comments are submitted on behalf of the City of Plymouth. They
have been reviewed and endorsed by the City Council.
As a whole, the proposed policy/plan is commendable for its clear objective and
completeness. We must minimize landfilling as soon as possible. The proposed
1990 date for prohibiting the land disposal of unprocessed municipal waste
is aggressive but feasible with proper incentives. The overall priority on
waste reduction, recycling and resource recovery is proper. Extensive and
continuing public education is essential. Flexibility of the system and its
components are crucial.
However, there are some aspects of the plan that we believe should be altered
or reconsidered.
1. The requirement for waste generators to separate identified
recyclables and �_ompostable yard waste after 1987.
There are several problems with this approach. First there
is the virtual impossibility of enforcement. It 13 obvious
from the participation estimates that it is expected that a
substantial minority will ignore the law.
Rather than a law requiring source separation by all generators,
we believe a better approach would be to require municipalities
to make available the means for generators to dispose of
voluntarily separated recyclables. This requirement could be
patterned after the service requirements shown in figure 4-1
(note concern about figure 4-1 below). The provision of this
service combined with the extensive and on-going publicity
envisioned may well result in a participation rate near that
estimated for mandatory separation. If the slippage is modest,
that would be a reasonable price to avoid imposing the legal
requirement for separation.
3400 P'_Y'IOUTH SCULEVARD. PLYMOUTH. "AIINNESOTA 55447, TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
Mr. Paul Smith
1/29/85
Page 2
2. The strong encouragement of organized collection of mixed municipal
waste.
Given that the Council is currently studying organized collection,
this policy/recommendation is premature. While from a "top-down"
management standpoint there are certain arguments that can be made
for organized collection, there are also a number of strong arguments
for the open process now employed by most cc -=unities. Rather than
go through those arguments in detail here, let me just say that the
objective should be to provide the most efficient service possible
consistent with the desires of the citizens of each community.
The better system will differ between communities and perhaps even
between different parts of any particular municipality.
3. The requirement for the separation of hazardous wastes by residential
generators with the provision of collection and management services
by 1988.
This may be the most unrealistic/unrealizable objeCLive in the plan.
The proble�.Ls of dealing with residential hazardous wastes are
extraordinary. First there is the extremely wide variety of these
wastes generated by each residence. Second is the great irregularity
of flow - e.g., we may all have one newspaper per day or 6 to 12
beverage cans per week to dispose but the flow of hazardous wastes
is very erratic.
It will be far beyond 1988 before there is any practical means of
managing residential hazardous wastes. Just think of the logistics
of collection and separation of the multitudes of oils, paints,
Insecticides, pesticides, etc., etc.. Indeed, I don't believe the
Waste Management Board is near a solution to this problem.
4. Proposed Recycling Service in the Twin Cities Metropolitan Area.
The map presented as figure 4-1 presents the recommended level of
recycling service to be provided by each municipality. In general
the varying levels of service are logical and appropriate. However,
the implicit model used to determine the various recommendations
should be made explicit and carried through at the local level.
Specifically I'.n referring to degree of urbanization or population
density.
This is an issue primarily for the many developing municipalities
like Plymouth. Cities like Plymouth, Maple Grove, Brooklyn Park,
etc., have portions of their area that are at or at least well on
the road to full development. They also have substantial areas
that will not be developed for many years. For example, Plymouth
and other northwestern Hennepin County communities have major
portions of their cities which are restricted (by the Metropolitan
Council) from development until certain trunk sanitary sewers are
constructed. These sewers may not be developed for 10 or 20 years.
Mr. Paul Smith
1/29/85
Page 3
We should not be required to provide curb side pick-up of
recyclables until these areas develop. We should provide
pick-up for developed areas and drop-off sites for non -
urbanized areas.
5. Financing of recycling program.
While there are funds being made available through the
counties for recycling programs, it appears these will only
cover a portion of the start-up and on-going expense. One
of three actions should be taken: a) repeal of levy limits
on local governments, b) allow financing of these=_ programs by
local governments outside of levy limits, or c) full and
continual funding by the state or counties.
These provisions are necessary because many cities are at or
near their levy limit. Thus this new program would have to
replace a current service. This would be an extremely difficult
trade-off to sell to our citizens.
Clearly the removal of the levy limit is the preferred option
for many reasons.
6. Wastes to be separated.
In paragraph 5 on page 23 low priority is assigned to the recovery
or reuse of wastes such as tires, plastics and demolition debris.
This priority should be significantly raised because of the
volume of landfill capacity these wastes will occupy despite
the fact they could be utilized.
This same paragraph includes a statement in conflict with
recommended policy number 6 on page 32 in regards to residential
hazardous wastes.
Thank you for the opportunity to comment on this important proposed pian.
If you have any questions on my comments, please let me know. The improved
management of solid wastes is crucial to the metropolitan area and each of
us as -public officials and private citizens alike.
Respectivy submitte
H. David Crain
Councilmember
HDC/mm
cc: Josephine Nunn - Metropolitan Council
Senator Tad Jude
Senator Jim Ramstad
Representative Dale Clausnitzer
Representative Craig Shaver
Representative Jim Heap
Henn. County Commissioner Bud Robb
Henn. County Commissioner Sam Sivanich
Mayor and Councilmembers
CITY OF
mnn a P LLeco rrov/LD
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M' N,, 9401 FERNBROOK LANE /MAPLE GROVE, MINNESOTA 55369— 9998 / PHONE: 420-4000
MAYOR ................. James Deane
COUNCII-MEMBER ......... David Burmese
COUNCILMEMBER ......... . Charles Dehn X'
COUNCILMEMBER ........ Donald Ramstad
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COUNCILMEMBER .......... Donna Ryon
CITY ADMINISTRATOR .... Douglas S. Reeder t'
January 25, 1985
Councilmember Patricia Hoyt - Neils
3890 Orleans Lane
Plymouth, MN 55447
Dear Councilmember Hoyt:
I have talked with Gerry Butcher, our City Engineer, about the drainage problem you
mentioned last night involving Howard Hunt's property. He has assured me that he is
working with Fred Moore to remove some sediment in a 50 foot stretch of Elm Creek.
This work should be commenced within the next 30 days and hopefully this will help
solve the problem.
If I can be of any further help in this matter, please let me know.
Sincerel
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Douglas S. Reeder
City Administrator
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I have talked with Gerry Butcher, our City Engineer, about the drainage problem you
mentioned last night involving Howard Hunt's property. He has assured me that he is
working with Fred Moore to remove some sediment in a 50 foot stretch of Elm Creek.
This work should be commenced within the next 30 days and hopefully this will help
solve the problem.
If I can be of any further help in this matter, please let me know.
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Douglas S. Reeder
City Administrator
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