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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity Council Minutes 05-20-1996 BOEMinutes 1996 Board of Review Reconvened May 20, 1996 The 1996 Board of Review of the City of Plymouth was reconvened by Mayor Tierney at 7:00 p.m. in the City Center, 3400 Plymouth Blvd., on May 20, 1996. COUNCIL PRESENT: Mayor Tierney; Councilmembers Granath, Black, Anderson, and Lymangood. Councilmember Preus arrived at 7:20 p.m. ABSENT: Councilmember Wold. STAFF PRESENT: City Manager Johnson, Assistant City Manager Lueckert, Finance Director Hahn, City Assessor Bye, Senior Appraiser Olsson, Commercial Appraiser Zent; Appraisers Carroll, Kingsbury, and McCormick, and Deputy City Clerk Hoffman. Mayor Tierney noted that the City Council has received staff reports relating to each of the properties for which objections were made at the April 29 Board of Review. The Mayor stated that the Council is not empowered to adjust taxes, and that the purpose of the meeting is only to designate property values. She said that property owners wishing to appeal the valuations further should contact the Hennepin County offices at 348-5076 before June 10, 1996. City Manager Johnson explained the appeal process as recommended by staff. He said the Board would handle the issues as a consent agenda item, approving all recommendations with one motion. Any parcels could be pulled from the list by property owners or the Councilmembers for discussion. MOTION was made by Councilmember Lymangood , seconded by Councilmember Black, to individually discuss Reports 1,6,10, and 13 from the oral presentations, and Report 24 from the letters, and to approve values for all other parcels as recommended by staff- Name/Address PIN 1996 Value Action Betty Johnson 10 Forestview Lane 35-118-22-43-0031] 118,800 No Change Ernest Clark 970 Zanzibar Lane 32-118-22-11-0136] 111,100 No Change Jeff Baill 2940 Pilgrim Lane 24-118-22-42-0082] 294,400 No Change Jill Saken 4585 Weston Lane 08-118-22-44-0019] 261,600 251,200 W. I. West Board of Review 23-118-22-33-0071] 81,400 No Change May 20, 1996 Page 2 20-118-22-24-0037] 161,500 No Change 984 Zanzibar Lane 32-118-22-12-0076 82,100 No Change Dorothy Krekelberg 11-118-22-22-0020] 273,100 262,200 6150 Hemlock Lane 02-118-22-12-0034] 297,200 276,300 Bernard Barr 25-118-22-11-0004] 125,500 No Change 11670 61st Avenue North 02-118-22-12-0040] 249,600 235,700 Sverre Pederson 17-118-22-21-0012] 299,300 No Change 1320 Urbandale Lane 30-118-22-34-0025] 228,700 219,600 Jo -Anne E. Stately 14-118-22-12-0016] 148,300 No Change 11800 61st Avenue North 02-118-22-12-0037] 182,700 173,900 Veronica Strehle 28-118-22-42-0006] 82,900 75,700 1510 Black Oaks Place North 29-118-22-42-0126] 109,600 102,200 Gary Olmstead 11-118-22-22-0019] 159,100 155,200 4045 Terraceview Lane North 16-118-22-23-0082] 192,500 189,000 Gerald Chmielewski 12410 26th Avenue North 23-118-22-33-0071] 81,400 No Change Wallace Johnson 16705 32nd Avenue North 20-118-22-24-0037] 161,500 No Change Seung Huh 5360 Norwood Lane North 11-118-22-22-0020] 273,100 262,200 Larry Fundingsland 2320 Medicine Lake Blvd. E. 25-118-22-11-0004] 125,500 No Change Max Daubenberger 16820 45th Avenue North 17-118-22-21-0012] 299,300 No Change Scott McGinnis 4330 Hemlock Lane North 14-118-22-12-0016] 148,300 No Change William Anderson 1710 Niagara Lane North 28-118-22-42-0006] 82,900 75,700 Donald Fish 12645 54th Avenue North 11-118-22-22-0019] 159,100 155,200 Donald Brody 11140 57th Avenue North 02-118-22-41-0064] 276,600 267,700 Gerald Harty 2530 W. Medicine Lake Dr. 26-118-22-12-0018] 104,000 No Change William Roth 10525 48th Avenue North 12-118-22-31-0036] 208,500 195,500 Gerald Cady 1030 Zanzibar Lane North 32-118-22-12-0067] 115,800 No Change LaVonne Wanka 1174 Weston Lane North 32-118-22-11-0009] 113,000 No Change Judith Morrow 1020 Xene Lane North 32-118-22-11-0099] 108,400 No Change Jane Krzesowiak Board of Review May 20, 1996 Page 3 14725 32nd Avenue North 21-118-22-13-0064] 139,500 133,500 Joan Schluttner 15748 27th Avenue North 21-118-22-33-0176] 85,100 79,700 Karl Groth 4145 Terraceview Lane North 16-118-22-23-0093] 193,700 189,000 Margaret Gossmann & Marjorie Fischbach 4100 Upland Lane North 16-118-22-23-0113] 159,200 No Change Leland Campbell 13902 Sunset Trail 34-118-22-32-0020] 129,600 121,000 Dee Bloch 4035 Terraceview Lane North 16-118-22-23-0081] 157,300 No Change Tom Macht 695 Olive Lane North 31-118-22-14-0034] 362,500 No Change Jean Koski 4135 Terraceview Lane North 16-118-22-23-0092] 193,900 189,600 Sarah Krakowski 3210 Lanewood Lane North 21-118-22-13-0030] 113,900 No Change Delano Erickson 2317 Kirkwood Lane North 26-118-22-21-0085] 100,700 96,000 David Esposito 4085 Quantico Lane North 16-118-22-23-0011] 161,500 No Change Thomas Witchger, Jr. 2315 Fountain Lane North 29-118-22-24-0005] 128,300 125,600 John Lunn 4037 Quantico Lane North 16-118-22-31-0009] 142,900 No Change Donald Nord 4105 Quantico Lane North 16-118-22-23-0038] 140,000 No Change Joseph Sorrentino 525 Queensland Lane North 31-118-22-42-0037] 176,400 No Change Motion carried, five ayes. William Nicholson, 16330 15th Avenue North, [29-118-22-43-0008] Bill Nicholson, 166330 15th Avenue North, stated his presentation at the April 29 Board of Review remains unchanged, and asked why no change was approved. He said he looked at what he considered comparable foundation sizes, as well as sales dates and noted a 10% increase in his valuation, while others only experienced about an 8% increase. He asked for an explanation on the decision. City Assessor Bye said she pulled Chelsea Woods sales that had occurred within the inspection time frame, with adjustments made to consider rambler floor plans versus split level floor plans, since split levels are valued higher. She said she also took into consideration whether the others had been recently reassessed. Board of Review May 20, 1996 Page 4 Motion was made by Councilmember Lymangood, seconded by Councilmember Granath to reduce the value of the parc-' to $115,00. Mayor Tierney said she was concerned about the valuation being lower than split level homes elsewhere. City Assessor Bye stated that this particular floor plan is only a two- bedroom style, not a rambler style, nor a full split style. Motion carried, five ayes. Roger Bjorland, 12119 54th Avenue North, [11-118-22-21-0046] Roger Bjorland, said he was shocked at the report on his home. He stated that updating of flooring was not substantial, that only the entryway slate flooring had been replaced by clay tile. He said that the furnace and water heater had been replaced, but that he doesn't consider those replacements to be considered upgrades. He stated the only landscaping improvements he did were stone and railroad tie retaining walls, but that all rock he used has turned out to be porous, and is turning to shale. He believes he paid more taxes for living on a lake, while the house hasn't changed much. He said he is bothered by the possibility that he could be forced out of his home by increases in property values. He noted that he moved into the home in 1960, not 1961, as he said the assessing records stated. Councilmember Preus arrived at 7:20. Mayor Tierney said she sympathized with Mr. Bjorland's concerns. She stated the property may be a handsome parcel by today's standards, but the home value is not there. She asked if he looked into the so-called circuit breaker program. He said he had used it in past years, and got around $400 from it last year. Councilmember Lymangood stated the real issue is to come up with a valuation of properties. He asked City Assessor Bye about the history of the parcel. She said previous years don't make a difference in the consideration. She agreed that lakeshore homes have incurred a large increase in valuation. MOTION was made by Mayor Tierney, seconded by Councilmember Black that the value for this parcel remain at $172,200. Motion carried, three ayes; Councilmembers Anderson and Lymangood, nay; Councilmember Preus abstained. John Norton, 1745 Black Ozks Lane, [29-118-22-42-0089] John Norton stated that his home is larger than any home compared in Chelsea Woods. He described comparisons of the more expensive models, and points of finish. He said that no models like his have sold recently, although four rambler floor plan models have sold. He Board of Review May 20, 1996 Page 5 said an assessor looked over his property, but only briefly. He stated that the fireplace was not working, due to a broken flue, and that given the home's amenities and depreciation, he could not understand the valuation. He asked why an almost 10% increase was applied to his home, while others had only about an 8% increase. City Assessor Bye stated detailed inspections were done in the 1992 assessment. She said the amount of increase was due to the appreciation of his property against some of the others. Mr. Norton said his floor plan is not the one cited by the City Assessing Department. He said his is a Timberland model, not Three Oaks. Councilmember Lymangood stated not the valuation was not a comparative assessment with other homes, but an appraisal of his particular home. Motion was made by Councilmember Lymangood. seconded by Councilmember Granath to reduce the value of the parcel to $122,000. Councilmember Anderson stated that, using Mr. Norton's figuring, the parcel value would be $123,700. Motion carried, five ayes, Councilmember Anderson nay. Bill LaBreche, Sr., 1735 Black Oaks Lane North, [29-118-22-42-0090] Bill LaBreche, Sr., moved from a lake home in Wright County, where his property was appreciating at too high a rate. He stated he also has a lake home in Wisconsin, where property tax rate is even more complicated. He stated he has no objection to his assessment. He said the growth in Plymouth is dramatic, and stated that to continue to base property taxes with 20 to 25 year-old homes is the plan to follow, but that industry development should lighten the loads. He said his concern is that such a big jump came over a four to five-year period. He stated he believed the Council did excellent job of keeping tax rate down where it could. MOTION was made by Councilmember Lymangood, seconded by Councilmember Anderson that the value for this parcel remain unchanged. Motion carried, six ayes. Max Daubenberger, 16820 45th Avenue North, [17-118-22-21-0012] Mr. Daubenberger came to the meeting late, after the consent motion was made to accept the valuation on his property. He said he was curious about the valuation of comparable homes in Golfview Estates. Appraiser Paul Kingsbury stated evaluation was set at the subdivision and the City as whole. Mr. Daubenberger noted that no rambler floor plans were sold in Golfview Estates during the inspection period. Appraiser Kingsbury gave three comparable valuations, all within Courtyards of French Creek. Their assessed values were in mid to upper 200's. He said adjustments were made for particular improvements. Board of Review May 20, 1996 Page 6 Mr. Daubenberger said he knew of one rambler model in Golfview Estates that was on the market for 18 months. He said the property sale price has fluctuated. Councilmember Lymangood asked about the valuation of comparable models in French Creek, if amenity adjustments are made. He asked whether other homes in French Creek are of a comparable nature to those in Golfview Estates. Assessor Kingsbury stated yes, in terms of size, amenities, and age, they were comparable. He said French Creek homes are a year or two newer but of similar size, with central air-conditioning. He said the house in Golfview Estates Daubenberger spoke of is listed at $349,900, and that the realtor stated the price had been raised $20,000. Councilmember Anderson asked City Assessor Bye if Board of Review action process has been explained to Mr. Daubenberger. Assessor Kingsbury explained that the valuation is what the house would sell for if resold in today's market. Councilmember Lymangood noted that the Daubenberger home was purchased in November, 1993 for $312,000. Mr. Daubenberger stated that he can't get what he paid for the home. Mayor Tierney called for either a motion to reconsider all parcels, in order to reconsider Daubenberger's parcel, or to leave it as is. MOTION was made by Councilmember Lymangood, seconded by Councilmember Anderson to reconsider the motion on all the parcels, in order to reconsider the one item. Motion failed, Councilmember Lymangood aye, five nays. Max Daubenberger stated that, having come in late, he did not understand the consent nature of the meeting. Mayor Tierney thanked him for coming, and said he was given fair consideration in the last motion. Brandon Development Co., P.O. Boz 28718, Oakdale, [08-118-22-23-0005] Councilmember Lymangood stated he asked to pull the item for discussion. He congratulated staff for reaching an agreement on an assessment with the property owner. He said he believed the property is not "green acred". Councilmember Lymangood said he can't understand a valuation of only $7000 per acre. He called it a low valuation and couldn't support it. City Manager Johnson stated he believed there was a calculation error, and if correctly calculated, should be assessed at $8,000 per acre. Assessor Earl Zent noted parcel comparisons. He stated that in looking at the parcel, they took into consideration how quickly it could be brought to within the MUSA line. He said the parcel consists of two 20 acre sites: one with a gravel road, and one with recorded easements. If the owner is to develop it, he will have to come up with other access roads. Zent said that the school Board of Review May 20, 1996 Page 7 property was assessed knowing it was capable of having sewer and water brought in, but that with this parcel, it is unknown when that will be available to the property. Assessor Zent stated that the parcels around it have a $7,000 valuation rate, and that is part of the basis for this valuation. He said that the 1997 assessment will probably see another major increase. Councilmember Lymangood asked if the neighboring parcels were landlocked as this is. Assessor Zent stated that they were, and don't have paved roads either. MOTION was made by Councilmember Lymangood, seconded by Councilmember Granath, to increase the property valuation to $400,000. Councilmember Lymangood stated he thinks the parcel is worth approximately $10,000 per acre. Councilmember Lymangood asked City Manager Johnson if he was being capricious in this consideration. Johnson stated that there was a lot of leeway on this valuation. Mayor Tierney asked about limited development consideration. Assessor Zent stated since the parcel is out of MUSA, two buildable sites are permitted. He said it does have the agricultural zoning cl"--sification, he must have it for seven years, according to the Metropolitan Council. Councilmember Anderson said while deferring to Councilmember Lymangood, he noted comparable valuations and supported Manager Johnson's calculation of $8,000 per acre. SUBSTITUTE MOTION made by Councilmember Anderson, seconded by Mayor Tierney, to increase the property valuation to $320,000. Mayor Tierney said she would like to see the valuation come down a bit since the owners can't build on it. Motion to substitute passed, five ayes, Councilmember Lymangood nay. Motion passed four ayes, Councilmembers Granath and Lymangood nay. Councilmember Lymangood thanked the Assessing Department staff for their efforts in getting reviews done in such a short period of time. He asked if they had considered using an outside assessment, such as a private realtor in the future. Manager Johnson called it an appropriate thing to consider. Finance Director Hahn stated other cities have effectively used private realty offices to do appraisals. He said that getting a second review gives the City and citizens a feeling that it's not just the City doing the review. He estimated using private appraisers would cost between four and five thousand dollars, or around $100 per review. He said agencies within the City of Plymouth would be chosen, determining how the project is spread out. Councilmember Black said the question of differing assessments could be a problem. City Board of Review May 20, 1996 Page 8 Assessor Bye said getting qualified realtors is a concern. Councilmember Anderson stated that having the taxing arm of the government doing appraisals is an inherent concern, a conflict in the eyes of citizens. He said the concept is something to look to in the future. Mayor Tierney called for an evaluation by staff on how other cities take on appraisal projects, and asked that they come back with a report to the Council. Finance Director Hahn said the one down side of private assessing is that real estate agents may not want to come back with a value that the property owner might not like, giving the realtor an unfavorable reputation. Mayor Tierney thanked staff for doing an outstanding job. MOTION was made by Councilmember Anderson, seconded by Councilmember Lymangood, to adjourn the meeting at 8:17 p.m. Motion carried, six ayes.