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CITY COUNCIL INFORMATIONAL MEMORANDUM
March 7, 1986
UPCOMING MEETINGS AND EVENTS.....
1. GET ACQUAINTED SESSION 1 -- Monday, March 10, 4:00 p.m. The first
Get Acquainted Session will meet in the City Center lunchroom.
This session will include Administration, Finance and Assessing.
The agenda for the Get Acquainted Session is enclosed separately.
2. TOWN MEETING -- Monday, March 10. The Area 9 Town Meeting will be
held in the City Council Chambers beginning at 7:30 p.m. A copy of
the invitation and agenda is enclosed separately.
3. HRA PUBLIC HEARING -- Monday, March 10, 6:00 p.m. The Housing and
Redevelopment Authority will meet in the City Center (office area)
large conference room. Agenda attached. (M-3)
4. PLANNING COMMISSION -- Wednesday, March 12. The Planning r^�lae nn
Forum is scheduled for 7:15 p.m. with the Planning Commission
meeting following at 7:30 p.m. In the City Council Chambers. Agenda
attached. (M-4)
5. PARK SEMINAR -- Thursday, March 13, 6:00 p.m. The Park and
Recreation Advisory Commission will meet with Paul Fjare of Brauer
and Associates regarding the City's Comprehensive Park System Plan.
The meeting will be held in the Council Chambers. A copy of the
Interoffice memorandum is attached. (M-5)
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CITY COUNCIL INFORMATIONAL MEMORANDUM
March 7, 1986
Page Two
FOR YOUR INFORMATION.....
1. DEER TASK FORCE - The Deer Task Force held its second meeting on
March 5, 1986. Attached is a brief memo from Dick Carlquist dealing
with the work of the task force to date. The next meeting is
scheduled for April 9, 1986. (I-1)
2. VEGETABLE STANDS - February 24, 1986, the Council received a staff
report on the possibility of establishing a Farmer's Market. That
discussion has prompted three letters which are attached. These
letters are from Charles and Mary Ann Nason, 17610 10th Avenue N.,
John Muchlinski, 17710 10th Avenue N., and Joan Junig, 17605 10th
Avenue N.. These three parties all continue to express concern
regarding the possibility of a vegetable stand at 10th Avenue and
Highway 101. I am forwarding each of them a copy of the February
21, 1986 staff report on the Farmer's Market proposal as well as the
minutes of February 24, 1986 which deal with that discussion. A
copy of my letter responding to their concerns is attached along
with the article which appeared in this week's Plymouth Post which
centers on the vegetable stand operated by Mr. and Mrs. Gaudette at
10th Avenue and Highway 101. (I-2)
3. DEPARTMENT REPORTS - The following departmental activity reports for
the month of February are attached:
a. Police Department (I -3a)
b. Fire Dcpartmc ;t (I -3b)
4. MINUTES -- The following minutes are attached for your information:
a. Shingle Creek Watershed Management Commission meeting of January
9, 1986. (I -4a)
b. Northwest Suburbs Community Television Corporation meeting of
February 12, 1986. (I -4b)
CITY COUNCIL INFORMATIONAL MEMORANDUM,
March 7, 1986
Page Three
5, PLYMOUTH METROL114, - FEBRUARY REPORT - Shown below is a table
displaying our average daily ridership for the commuter/ reverse
commuter, internal circulator and total system for each week of
February. The second table displays the year to date averages in
each service area compared with the target which we must achieve in
order to have a successful project.
MONTHLY
PLYMOUTH METROLINK
DAILY RIDERSHIP AVERAGES BY MEEK BY SERVICE TYPE
FEBRUARY 1986
Total
System
SERVICE TYPE
FEBRUARY
44
394
TARGET
337
1986
393
Commuter/
Internal
Total
+.003%
Reverse Commuter
Circulator
System
WEEK OF:
2/8
349
37
386
2/15
355
42
397
2/22
339
66
405
2/28
358
43
401
MONTH LONG
AVERAGE
350
47
397
YEAR TO DATE
Item
Commuter/
Reverse Commuter
Internal
Circulator
Total
System
YEAR TO DATE
RIDERSHIP AVERAGE
351
44
394
TARGET
337
56
393
% OVER/(UNDER)
TARGET
+4%
-21%
+.003%
CITY COUNCIL INFORMATIONAL fiLK)RANUUM
March 7, 1986
Page Four
A NUMBER OF OBSERVATIONS ARE IN ORDER:
a. Internal circulator ridership in February averaged 44 passengers
per day, which is substantially below the 50 passenger per day
average established in February 1985. We will monitor ridership
in hopes of regaining previous ridership levels.
b. The commuter/reverse commuter portion of the service averaged
350 persons per day in February, well above the 292 average
posted in February 1985.
c. In terms of our system wide ridership target of 393 passengers
per day, we exceed the goal by one at 394 passengers per day.
DAILY RIDERSHIP AVERAGES BY MONTH
FOR CALENDAR YEARS 1984 - 1986
SERVICE TYPE
Commuter/
Reverse Commuter
Internal
Circulator
Total
System
MONTH:
1984
1985 1986
1984
1985 1986
1984
1985 1986
January
330
307 351
21
51 40
351
358 391
February
310
292 350
25
50 47
335
342 394
March
307
311
25
>6
332
367
April
301
295
27
55
331
350
May
295
298
27
36
322
334
June
276
314
41
53
317
367
July
277
297
42
52
319
349
August
266
292
47
57
313
349
September
275
322
32
42
307
364
October
276
312
36
55
312
367
November
271
311
35
57
306
368
December
265
320
39
------------------
52
304
--------------------
372
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YEAR LONG
AVERAGE
------------------
287
306
36
51
321
357
CITY COUNCIL INFORMATIONAL MEMORANDUM
March 7, 1986
Page Five
6. CORRESPONDENCE:
a. Letter from John T. Cross, Audubon Chapter of Minneapolis,
commenting on the Ivy Park Two project. (I -6a)
b. Letter from Eric Blank to Vern Hartenburg, Superintendent of the
Suburban Hennepin Regional Park District, requesting the
District to schedule discussion of their reimbursement to the
City of the purchase price of 3005 East Medicine Lake Boulevard '
for trail development. (I -6b)
c. Letter from Mayor Schneider to Secretary of State Joan Growe
stating the City's position on the Federal Polling Place
Accessibility Law. (I -6c)
d. Letter from Grace Haukoos, Director -Elections, Office of the
Secretary of State responding to Mayor Schneider's letter of
March 3, 1986 regarding the Federal Polling Place Accessibility
Law. (I -6d)
e. Letter from Jill Van Oss to Police Department in appreciation of
the professional attitudes of Officer Ward and the dispatcher.
(I -6e)
A G E N D A
PLYMOUTH HOUSING AND REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY
March 10, 1986
6:00 P.M.
I. Roll Call
II. Approval of Minutes for January 27, 1986 Meeting
III. Election of Officers
IV. Public Hearing for Community Development Block Grant Proqram Year
XII Funding
V. Section 8 Program Update
VI. Scattered Site Home Ownership Program Progress Report
VII. Senior Citizen Housing Development Update
VIII. Other Business
IX. Adjournment
PLAPUJINh CO!VIISSIOH HI-ETIWJG AGE(JU-v
WEDHESh.AY, tIARCH 12, 19�-
V,HERE: PTvmouth City Center
3400 Plymouth Boule\ark
Plymouth, W1 5544
COHSFHT AGENDA
All items listed ►%ith an asterisk (*) are considered to be routine by the Plannincl
Commission and will be enacted by one motion. There will be no separate discussion of
these items unless a Commissioner, citizen or petitioner so requests, in which event
the item will he removed from the consent agenda and considered in normal sequence on
the agenda.
PUBLIC FORUH 7:15 P.M.
1. CALL TO ORDER 7:30 P.M.
2. ROLL CALL
3.* APPROVAL OF M11JUTES
Planninq Commission Minutes, February 26, 1986
4. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Dickman Knutson, Ultra Homes, Inc. Planned Unit Development Concept Plan arid
Amendment to Staged Gro"th Element for property west of Pineview Lane,
approximately one-half mile south of County Road 47, one-eighth mile north of
Soo Line Railroad, and one-fourth mile east of Interstate 494 (85126)
B. Richard J. Bordon. Conditional Use Permit for merchandising service at 962+
\
61,11 Avenue cwt th �vuv (86015 i1
C. Hayne and Nancy Menge. Conditional Use Permit for Radio Antenna at 3190
Kimberly Lane North (96016)
D. Thelma Lee Shepperd. Home Occupation Conditional Use Permit to allo►; the
operation of a beauty shop at 415 Harbor Lane (86017)
5. NEW BUSINESS
*A. Turck Multiprox, Inc. Site Plan and Variance for office/warehouse/manufactur-
ing facility southwest of Xenium Lane and Campus Drive in the North►,est
Business Campus (86012)
6. OLD BUSINESS
None
7. OTHER BUSINESS
Tax Increment Finance District Expansion.
8. ADJOURNMENT 10:00 P.M.
CITY OF PLYMOUTH
PLANNING COH4ISSION MINUTES
FEBRUARY 26, 1986
The regular Meeting of the Plymouth Planning Commission was
called to order at 7:30 P.M..
MEMBERS PRESENT: Vice Chairman Pauba, Commissioners
Stuloerg, Magnus, Plufka, and Mellen
MEMBERS ABSENT: Chairman Steigerwald
Commissioner Wire
STAFF PRESENT: Community Development Coordinator
Sara McConn
Associate Planner Al Cottingham
City Engineer Sherm Goldberg
Community Development Secretary
Grace %lineman
*MINUTES
MOTION by Commissioner Plufka, seconded by Commissioner *MINUTES - FEBRUARY
Magnus to recommend approval of the Minutes as submitted. 12, 1986
VOTE. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried. VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Vice Chairman Pauba requested an overview of the draft re- HOUSING ELEMENT OF
port of the Housing Eiement or the Comprehensive Plan by COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
Associate Planner Al Cottingham.
Vice Chairman Pauba opened the Public Hearing, as there was
no one present to speak on this item, the Public Hearing was
closed.
Commissioner Plufka stated he has reviewed the Housing Ele-
ment and is satisfied with its acceptability to send forward
to the City Council. He commented on one exception where
there should be recognition of the partnership of the City
and the developer to continue to use PUD provisions as a
planning tool to preserve the natural areas. He believes
this is implied, but that an affirmative statement should be
inserted. He stated that Plymouth has been well planned and
preservation of the environmental features of the City of
Plymouth should be addressed. He asked that staff incorpor-
ate language for this statement.
Commissioner Stulberg stated that this should be part of the
overall framework of planning development in Plymouth, but
should not be in direct association with the Planned Unit
Development standards.
&WIRE
M-Ij
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February 26, 19h6
Commissioner Plufka concurred and reiterated that this is a
desirable goal that should be made part of the Comprehensive
Plan.
MOTION by Commissioner Plufka, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO APPROVE
Stulberg to recommend approval of the draft Housing Element
of the City's Comprehensive Plan and that there should be
specific mention of the past and future efforts that will
use creative planning techniques to preserve the environment
including working with existing topography, wetlands, wild-
life areas, and naturally forested areas.
Commissioner Magnus inquired if this is the final input to
the plan; whether this is the Commission's final action.
Associate Planner Cottingham answered affirmatively and
stated the recommendation will be passed on to the City
Council. Upon their approval the document will become the
amended Housing Element of the Comprehensive Plan.
Commissioner Magnus stated his concern that Chairman
Steigerwald and Commissioner Wire were absent from this
meeting. It is his recollection they had expressed some
concern with the content of the report. He inquired if it
may not be better to defer action on this item until the
next meeting. Coordinator McConn and Vice Chairman Pauba
stated they had received no special instructions nor memor-
andums from Chairman Steigerwald or Commissioner Wire noting
concern with this final draft of the Housing Element.
Commissioner Magnus stated he continues to be concerned
about the item on Page 48 having to do with the inspection
programs. He remembered that Commissioner Wire had concern
with this item as well.
Vice Chairman Pauba recommended that Commissioner Magnus
make a Motion to Amend so that his concern is directed to
the City Council for their consideration.
MOTION by Commissioner Magnus to table this item until the
Planning Commission meeting of March 12, 1986. The Motion
died for lack of second.
MOTION by Commissioner Magnus, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO AMEND
Stulberg to Amend the Main Motion to read that "Item 13. b.
on page 48 of the Draft Housing Plan by BRW be deleted".
Commissioner Plufka stated he is not concerned about this
item because the way it is re -written; these would be pos-
sible inspection programs to consider and are alternatives
to perserve and maintain housing stock in the City.
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Planning Commission Minutes
February 26, 1986
Commissioner Stulberg concurred that this is written only as
a suggestion and the City would review any Ordinance amend-
ments thoroughly before making regulatory changes.
Commissioner Magnus stated it is his opinion that this would
be a regulation the citizens of Plymouth don't want as it
constitutes more bureaucracy, and puts a burden on the sel-
ler who would be required to go to the City for permits. He
stated he does not agree with instituting an inspection pro-
gram such as this for private residential property, however,
he does see some merit in a program such as this for rental
properties.
Roll Call Vote on the Amendment to the Motion. 2 Ayes.
Commissioners Stulberg, Plufka and Pauba, Nay. MOTIO!
fails.
Roll Call Vote on MAIN MOTION. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried.
The Commission commended Associate Planner Al Cottingham on
a job well done.
Vice Chairman Pauba introduced the Site Plan application by
Hance Distributing Company, Inc., and requested an overview
of the February 19, 1986 staff report by Coordinator McConn.
Coordinator McConn stated there was a correction on the size
of the building which is 41,760 sq. ft., rather than 45,480
sq. ft. as stated in the staff report.
Vice Chairman Pauba introduced Tom Hance, Hance Distributing
Co., Inc., who explained the request for variances and the
site plan for a distribution center. He stated the biggest
problem is in the northeast corner where there is a cul-de-
sac. He described the setback variances which arise from
their desire that the building have a symmetrical appear-
ance. He does not believe the variances are excessive and
will afford a balanced look for the building. Mr. Hance
showed an alternate design. He stated they can eliminate
some parking stalls and still comply with the Ordinance
standards for parking.
Commissioner Plufka inquired about the variance on the north
side of the building to the parking lot (10 ft. vs 5 ft.).
Mr. Hance stated this is due to the atriums designed for the
building. He stated they could eliminate the parking stalls
that are 5 ft. from the atrium fronts, however, they feel
the building design is beneficial for them and for the City
with the end result being a more aesthetic building. He
stated they could design a flat building face with no design
features, but they would prefer to retain the atriums.
VOTE ON AMENDMENT
MOTION FAILS
VOTE - MAIN MOTION
MOTION CARRIED
HANCE DISTRIBUTING
COMPANY, INC.
SITE PLAN (85135)
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Planninq Commission liinutes
February 26, 198h
Commissioner Plufka asked about the front elevation for the
atrium. Mr. Hance described the size and amount of glass to
extend from the atrium. Commissioner Plufka confirmed that
when someone parks in front of an entrance and goes to the
second entrance, they would have 5 ft. in which to get by.
Mr. Hance explained that the parking design is not for a re-
tail facility. They will be the main tenants as whole-
salers, however, there will be some limited retail. He
stated they are requesting the Conditional Use Permit for
this reason. He estimates they could have up to 20 people
per month visiting the facility. Commissioner Plufka asked
Mr. Hance to describe this service. Mr. Hance stated that
if, for instance, you live in Wisconsin and are visiting
Minneapolis you could purchase and pick-up a part for your
tractor which you had purchased from a retail outlet in
Wisconsin. Mr. Hance stated they could not deny a customer
service from their distribution center.
Commissioner Plufka inquired if they advertise their direct
service. Mr. Hance stated this was not the case and that in
most instances they refer customers to the dealership. How-
ever they do stock parts for the lawn and garden equipment
and will serve a customer if they are not willing to return
to the retail outlet, or if they have an emergency.
Vice Chairman Pauba inquired if they repair this equipment
on site. Mr. Hance answered affirmatively. He stated the
equipment to be repaired can be sent in by the dealer or can
be brought in by the customer for repair. However, all cus-
tomers who bring in equipment for repair are referred by the
dealer. Mr. Hance stated that perhaps 10% of their total
volume would be repair work which could translate to 8 to 16
people a day.
Commissioner Plufka inquired if this is a seasonal busi-
ness. Mr. Hance answered affirmatively, and that is why
they feel this conditional use is not a major part of their
business.
Commissioner Stulberg questioned the drive-in acess to the
building? Mr. Hance expained they would enter on the left
side at the center of the building where there is a two-way
drive. Commissioner Stulberg commented about possible
traffic circulation problems if they would be parked in the
drive aisle waiting to enter the building; and questioned if
they could turn around? Mr. Hance stated they would have to
back out, or back in and drive out which is the reason for
the two-way drive aisle.
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Planninq Commission Minutes
February 26, 1956
Commissioner Stulberg asked if the Fire Inspector or Engine-
ering Department had any problems with this traffic circu-
lation. Coordinator McConn stated they had not expressed
concern unless the volume of traffic is high and would occur
on a continuous basis. Commissioner Stulberg stated that
the circulation seems tight, especially for those vehicles
carrying equipment on trailers.
Mr. Hance reiterated that they always suggest the customer
return the equipment to the dealer. However, they will not
turn a customer away if they insist on being served at the
distribution center. He confirmed that statistics from
their other facility shows that area serving approximately
16 customers per day.
Commissioner Stulberg inquired if the dealers bring in the
equipment for repair. Mr. Hance stated that generally their
vehicle will pick-up the unit from the dealer to repair or
maintain.
Commissioner Stulberg inquired about merchandise that isn't
moving, and whether they would conduct warehouse sales on
these items? Mr. Hance stated the business is 95% whole-
sale. Commissioner Stulberg inquired of Mr. Marlan Carlson,
Mirror Factory, who will be the other tenant about warehouse
sales. Mr. Carison states only occasionally would they get
a customer who would come in to look at products on dis-
play. He stated that most are builders who would make a
selection which would be delivered and installed. He esti-
mated that only 5% would be walk-in business.
Mr. Hance stated they had one warehouse sale four years ago
and it was such a disaster and so much work, he doubts they
would ever have one again.
Commissioner Mellen stated that the configuration of the
service area is like other businesses of this type in other
communities, and there should be no objection to the build-
ing and parking layout. Mr. Carlson stated their Minnetonka
facility is very similar and they have no problems there.
Commissioner Stulberg stated he is familiar with their
building on Highway 12, and there is a high volume of traf-
fic at this facility. He is concerned that if the same
volume of traffic occurs on the roadway at this facility,
there will be congestion.
Vice Chairman Pauba opened the Public Hearing, as there was
no one present to speak on this item, the Public Hearing was
closed.
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Planning Commission Minutes
February 26, 1986
Commissioner Stulberg stated he is concerned about the park-
inq variances. Commissioner Plufka noted his concern re-
garding the "proof -of -parking" plan. Vice Chairman Pauba
concurred with staff's concern regarding the mixed angled
parking.
Mr. Hance stated that shape of the lot causes much of the
problem and explained the problem of fitting the parking
stalls on the lot. He is concerned that he is being asked
to provide "proof -of -parking" for the site in the event that
a future tenant may want a manufacturing use. He stated
they are a wholesale distribution center and in no way will
the use intensify for this facility. He stated that admit-
tedly they are having a problem meeting the "proof -of -park-
ing" requirements for a manufacturing use, however, they are
not applying for this use and it is their opinion that any
more intense use that could be proposed would be many years
in the future.
He stated they did look at alternatives but felt this plan
was the most desirable for their business. He noted that
staff, in reviewing the parking plans did not address stalls
for compact cars and they would like to request these for
their parking lot layout.
Commissioner Plufka stated the City is concerned about
those sites wheTe tha in business !novas out because of
their need for additional space, leaving a site that cannot
support another use that would he allowed in that Zoning
District. He stated the one-way drive aisle on the east
side of the building could be a problem, along with the size
of this building which may not suit another tenant.
Mr. Hance stated that to reduce the building size would not
be economically feasible. He stated it is their opinion the
variances are not outrageous. He understands the concern of
the Commission, but noted that a manufacturing use could
also change. He stated they will have a 30 -year mortgage
and their reasoning for the size of this building is to
assure their future needs. Mr. Hance pointed out that the
building could be constructed on a square lot and meet the
standards, however, this lot is triangular in shape making
it necessary for the variance requests.
Mr. Marlan Carlson noted similar variance requests were made
for the Sheehy building to the east; and, a proposal is to
be made for a building to be known as "Snow -Larson" which
will need the same setback variances. Mr. Hance stated they
are trying to build within the Ordinance provisions but with
the substantial slope to this property, moving the building
back would be very costly.
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Planning Commission Minutes
February 26, 1956
Coordinator McConn explained that there have been several
instances where buildings were constructed with no plans for
future needs and these buildings and sites could not handle
future expansion and intensified uses. She stated that no
formal application has been made on behalf of the proposed
building Mr. Carlson mentioned, but if variances are re-
quested, these would be reviewed on their merits Just as has
been done during the review of these development plans. She
noted that the petitioner must meet the variance criteria
and that approval cannot be granted for economic reasons.
She explained that the Sheehy building to the east has two
front yards and requested only a variance from the fire lane
requirement.
MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO DEFER
Plufka to recommend deferral with direction to the petition-
er to reduce the number of variances. Commissioner Stulberg
stated his concern about meeting the "proof -of -parking" re-
quirements and the 2 ft. from the drive to the parking on
the southwest corner of the building. He stated that traf-
fic circulation is a primary concern, and that he had lesser
concern with the yard variances in the northeast corner.
Vice Chairman Pauba inquired if the petitioner had a ��prefer-
ence
1
ence for deferral, or a reco����er�dati:. ; of . .,yam= to the City
Council. Mr. Hance stated he would not move forward to the
City Council with a recommendation of denial from the Plan-
ning Commission. He stated their choice is to prove they
can provide Ordinance parking or not build at all. He
stated they have not been able to do this, and even though
economics cannot be taken into consideration, reducing the
building size will not be economically feasible. He stated
they will review other options and alternative plans.
Commissioner Plufka confirmed with Commissioner Stulberg
that the direction is to eliminate as many variances as
possible.
Roll Call Vote. 4 Ayes. Commissioner Mellen, Nay. MOTION VOTE - MOTION CARRIED
carries.
Vice Chairman Pauba introduced the Residential Planned Unit DAVE PETERSON
Development (RPUD) Amendment proposed by Dave Peterson, HARRISON HILLS, INC.
Harrison Hills, Inc. and requested a review of the February RPUD AMENDMENT
10, 1986 planning staff report by Coordinator McConn. (86009)
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Planninq Commission Minutes
February 26, 198('
Vice Chairman Pauba introduced MMr. ktiayne Tauer, Suburban
Engineering, representing the petition. Mr. Tauer stated
they are requesting a maximum lot coverage of 30% for 15
additional lots. He stated they researched the City's files
and have attached material that shows the history of this
PUD. He noted that from the beginning the City has made
favorable comments about the Harrison Hills PUD, calling it
an outstanding project. It is their opinion that in the
early planning stages, if they had made a similar request as
they are today, they would have been granted this request
without reservation. He stated the developer is now per-
plexed because the buyers desire larger homes on smaller
lots. It is his opinion that the City should allow some
flexibility to meet the market requirements.
He explained that the mass will be less than what was orig-
inally planned even by granting this increased lot cover-
age. The additional lot coverage will make little if any
difference in the 100 -Year High water Elevation.
Mr. Tauer summarized his comments that the PUD was not in-
tended to provide affordable housing; that it meets and
exceeds the attributes for a Planned Unit Development; and,
that the plan insures the continuity of a quality
development.
Commissioner Stulberg confirmed that the request is not
seeking the construction of smaller homes, but is asking for
increased lot coverage. Mr. Tauer agreed, and added that
this request does not adversely impact light and air; and,
there would be no visual impact when driving up and down the
streets. He noted that part of the problem is that decks
are considered in the percentage of lot coverage; he sug-
gested eliminating decks from the percentage.
Mr. Tauer stated the staff report recommends combining
parcels, but this is out of the question. Services would
then become too expensive. He stated that earth sheltered
homes were recommended, but would not be appropriate for
this development.
Vice Chairman Pauba stated it is true that this PUD is one
of the nicest and truest of the Planned Unit Developments.
Commissioner Stulberg stated that the PUD has changed from
its original approvals by plan amendments such as that for
the 14 lots previously approved. Mr. Tauer concurred, but
noted they had requested increased lot coverage for all 70
lots. Commissioner Stulberg reminded Mr. Tauer that a
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February 26, 1956
number of lots exceeded the lot coverage before the first
amendment was approved.
Commissioner Stulberg stated concern that 41.5% of the lots
would be over the Ordinance standards for lot coverage if
this request is approved. Mr. Tauer stated they reduced
density in this area from 115 units to 70 units and the
density in the northwest corner of the PUD has not been
realized. He stated they could have limited the number of
condominium units as a trade-off.
Commissioner Plufka inquired about the size of the lots on
which the request for increased coverage is made. Mr. Tauer
stated they do not have tabulations lot by lot. Coordinator
Mc Conn stated the minimum lot size based on the PUD design
could range from 8,900 sq. ft. to 10,000 sq. ft.
Commissioner Stulberg stated that relating to the marketing
issue, neither the City nor the developer could have known
during initial planning for this development that the market
would dictate changes to the PUD design. Vice Chairman
Pauba concurred stating that home buyers seem to be inter-
ested in a larger home with a three -car garage and one or
two decks.
,Ice C-hairman Pauba opened the Public Hearing, as there was
no one present to speak on this item, the Public Hearing was
closed.
Commissioner Plufka stated that there seems to be no problem
with the housing unit, but there is concern where requests
to the PUD Plan by increasing lot coverage are being submit-
ted in a piece meal fashion. He stated that this could be
addressed by giving credit for decks and/or garages; how-
ever, decks are not the problem, structure mass is the
problem.
Commissioner Mellen stated there is also the desire of the
homeowner to upgrade the deck to a three -season porch for
additional living space which would visibly change the
appearance and increase the mass of the development. He
stated he cannot support changing the City's policy for one
development.
MOTION by Commissioner Mellen, seconded by Commissioner MOTION TO DENY
Magnus to recommend denial of the RPUD Amendment for
Harrison Hills as stated in the February 10, 1986 staff
report.
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Planning Commission Minutes
February 26, 1956
Commissioner Stulberg stated concurs with the Motion because
of the number of lots involved; and, that he concurs with
previous City Council direction that the developer select
and graphically demonstrate those lots, so the Commission
and Council can review it overall rather than on a piece
meal basis.
Roll Call Vote. 5 Ayes. MOTION carried.
Vice Chairman Pauba called a Recess at 9:15 P.M.
Vice Chairman Pauba called the meeting to order and intro-
duced the application by the Glory of Christ Lutheran
Church. He requested a brief overview of the February 10,
1968 staff report by Coordinator McConn.
Commissioner Plufka stated it is important that discussion
be directed to the fact that this Ordinance Amendment
affects the entire FRD (future restricted development)
District; arid, that the guiding for this particular property
is for an industrial use.
Vice Chairman Pauba introduced Reverend Jonathan Strohschein
and advised Reverend Strohschein the Commission would con-
sider any new material submitted that would be additional to
that submitted with their application at the December 4,
1985 meeting.
Reverend Strohschein showed slides of the property owned by
the church and adjoining properties, explaining they do not
feel that industrial guiding is an issue. He stated the
City should consider returning to the 1980 standards to
allow churches in the FRD District. He discussed why this
land should not be guided for industrial use; that there
would be traffic problems; and, road construction and utili-
ties to this area would be costly to the City. He does not
believe this request, along with their future development
plans, constitutes "spot zoning". He noted this area is
particularly suitable for a church use. He stated that
staff had indicated appropriate sites for church develop-
ment, however, the least expensive of these sites was
$300,000.00. He noted that at one time the City had also
been interested in a property but did not purchase it
because of the cost. He stated that a business could pass
on the cost, but as a non-profit organization, the church
could not do this.
VOTE - NOTION CARRIED
RECESS
GLORY OF CHRIST
LUTHERAN CHURCH
ZONING ORDINANCE
TEXTUAL AMENDMENT
(86011)
Paqe 36
Planninq Commission Minutes
February 26, 1956
He stated a church is not only an urban use, but fits a non-
urban use noting there are many rural churches. He stated
the City is not clear in their definition of urban and non-
urban. He noted that the Ordinance states that residential
uses, private clubs and golf courses are uses that can be
either urban or non -urban and that the City should clarify
this.
Commissioner Plufka stated that a city is called a City
because of its urban characteristics, however, a city can
also include rural land which is not served by public
utilities.
Reverend Strohschein reiterated that the City in allowing
private residences and private clubs in unserviced areas
should consider church facilities as a permitted use. He
stated that a church would not increase the sewer flow to
any degree. The statistics they have provided regarding
water consumption and sewer flow for churches were obtained
from the City of Maple Grove. He stated they have docu-
mented that church facilities use less water and would not
impact the sewer flow.
He stated they are not asking the City to throw out the
Guide Plan, but that the City made a mistake in 1980 by
changing the Ordinance so that churches would not be allowed
in the FORD Zoning District. He noted that the City Council
upon review of their initial application recommended denial
by a split vote, and this should give notice to the City
that there are problems with the Zoning Ordinance.
Vice Chairman Pauba opened the Public Hearing, as there was
no one present to speak on this item, the Public Hearing was
closed.
MOTION by Commissioner Stulberg, seconded by Commissioner NOTION TO DENY
Plufka to recommend denial of the Zoning Ordinance Textual
Amendment based on the same reasons as stated for the recom-
mendation of denial for the November, 1985 application; that
development of this land is premature and nothing has
changed since their review of the previous application.
Roll Call Vote. 4 Ayes. Commissioner Mellen, Nay. MOTION MOTION CARRIED
carried.
NEM' BUSINESS
Vice Chairman Pauba introduced the application by Rick RICK RADECKI
Radecki for Lot Consolidation, Lot Division, and Variance. LOT CONSOLIDATION
He requested an overview of the February 13, 1986 staff LOT DIIV-ISIONAND
AND
by Coordinator McConn.
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Page 37
Planning Commission Minutes
February 26, 1956
Vice Chairman Pauba introduced Ms. Delores Nygren, 2735 A
Kilmer Lane, representing the petition. Ms. Nygren explain-
ed the circumstances for this request and the layout of sur-
rounding lots in this neighborhood. She stated she has
owned the land for 30 years arid wants to keep it for her
family. Granting the Variance would not be detrimental to
other properties in the area and is not precedent setting as
this is the only land left for development in this area.
Ms. Nyqren presented a petition signed by her neighbors who _
are in favor of her request.
Vice Chairman Pauba introduced Ms. Donna Leonhardt, 9640
28th Avenue North; Enoch Peterson, 2745 Lancaster Lane;
Helen Rice 2735 Lancaster Lane; and, Rosella Sowers, 2760
Nathan Lane, who all were in favor of the application for
Lot Consolidation/Division by Ms. Nygren. They stated that
the homes on these lots will fit in well with the existing
neighborhood; that as a property owner for 30 years, Ms.
Nygren would be sensitive to keeping the character of the
neighborhood; and, that like most parcels in this area which
are very large, they become burdensome to maintain.
Mr. Peterson pointed out that the density in this area is
much less than in the rest of Plymouth.
The Commission discussed lot frontage and street layout.
MOTION by Commissioner Mellen, seconded by Commissioner NOTION TO APPROVE
Plufka to recommend approval for the Lot Consolidation, Lot
Division, and Variance subject to the conditions as stated
in the February 13, 1986 staff report. The Commission noted
the unique character of this property as an in -fill area and
that development will he consistent with adjoining
properties.
Commissioner Stulberg stated that the application as submit-
ted does not meet all the variance criteria. Commissioner
Plufka concurred, but with an in -fill situation in an
existing neighborhood, there are many gray areas to
consider.
Roll Call Vote. 4 Ayes. Commissioner Stulberg, Nay. MOTION VOTE - NOTION CARRIED
carried.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 10:06 P.M.
CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BLVD., PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447
TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
MEMO
DATE: March 5, 1986
TO: PRAC and the City Council
FROM: Eric Blank, Director of Parks and Recreation
SUBJECT PRAC TRAINING SESSION - MARCH 13
This is just to remind you of the training session to be conducted
by Paul Fjare of Brauer and Associates on the City's Comprehensive
Park and Trail System Plans.
We expect to serve supper between 5:30 and 6:00 p.m. with the training
scheduled to begin around 6:15.
In order to plan for the correct amount of food, please RSVP with
Nancy at 559-2800 x 266 by Tuesday, March 11.
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Minutes of the Regular Meeting of the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission
February 13, 1986
Page 3
Present: Commissioners Anderson, Beach (arrived at 8:30 p.m.), Chair Edwards,
LaTour, Mullan, Reed and Rosen; staff Blank and Pederson
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Edwards called the February meeting to order at 7:36 p.m. in the
Council Chambers.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A motion was made by Commissioner LaTour to approve the minutes of the
January meeting as presented. The motion carried.
3. VISITOR PRESENTATIONS
There were no visitors present at this meeting.
4. REPORT ON PAST COUNCIL ACTION
Director Blank reported that the City Council approved the 1986 park dedication
fees, the consultant for the 'Zachary Park concession building, the 1986 park
facility rental policies and fee schedule, the neighborhood park improvements
for Queensland and Imperial Hills neighborhood parks and the appointment of
John Reed to the French Regional Park Advisory Task Force. Council also
appointed Richard Rosen to the Park Commission to replace Betty Threinen.
5. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
a. 1985 Annual Report. The annual report was reviewed for final changes,
corrections and additions. Since no changes were recommended, a motion
was made by Commissioner Mullan and seconded by Commissioner Anderson
approving the 1985 Annual Report and forwarding it to the City Council.
The motion carried with all ayes. Commissioner Reed questioned whether
or not next year's report should place more emphasis on the proposed
capital improvements section. He also is concefaed with the Council's
feelings regarding priorities relating to the 1986-90 CIP. He is
recommending that this item be discussed in more detail during the
joint PRAC/City Council meeting.
b. Parkers Lake Update. Director Blank reviewed for the commissioners
the latest flow chart completed by Brauer and Associates. More topo-
graphical work had to be done due to some disturbances that have taken
place at the southwest corner of the lake since the last topographical
charts were completed. The Commission will hold a special meeting on
March 20th to review the plans once more and then residents will be
invited to review the plans also. Director Blank reported that 550
tons of sand will be delivered to the swimming beach area within a
week or two where it will be distributed on the ice by our maintenance
staff where it will later settle when the ice melts.
c. PRAC Training Session Update. Director Blank stated that he had
recently met with Paul Fjare from Brauer and Associates to review the
content of the training session. The training is expected to last
approximately three hours and will be spent dealing mostly with
the comprehensive park and trail system plans. Supper will be served
starting around 5:30 p.m. The Council is being encouraged to attend
this training session also.
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PRAC Minutes of February 13, 1986
Page 4
d. Zachary Building Update. Director Blank met with the Zachary concession
building consultants to review the size and layout of the structure. There
may be a minor snag with the Health Department's regulations that require
restrooms within the same building where there are concessions. At the
present time, this building is not proposed to have any sewer lines
connected to it. If it is required to construct sewer lines to the
building, construction may have to be delayed due to the increased cost
related to the sewer lines, which were not planned for in the original
proposal.
e. St. Mary's Land Update. Final plats for the St. Mary's development were
delivered to the Planning Department recently. If they are approved,
they will then go to Council for their approval. Approximately 45-60
days later, the City would be in possession of 11 acres -.of new park
land.
f. Neighborhood Park Projects Update (Queensland and Imperial Hills).
No outside consultant will be hired for the design of these two
neighborhood park improvement projects according to Director Blank.
All work will be done by our own staff. Neighborhood meetings will
be held at the end of March to seek input from residents surrounding
the two parks scheduled for improvements. Chair Edwards asked Director
Blank if there had been any more incidents of vandalism at Imperial
Hills Park. Director Blank said that he had not heard of anything
within the past several months.
6. NEW BUSINESS
a. Joint Meeting with PRAC/City Council. Director Blank stated that the date
Tor rhe ;n;nr meeting will have to be changed again. He as well as others
have conflicts on March 24. He asked the commissioners for their agenda
suggestions and the following are some of the recommendations:
: City budget and how it may affect park development, maintenance
and recreation programs
Community Center
Revenue ideas (John Mullan and Carol Beach have volunteered to
meet with the recreation staff to research some ideas for
increasing revenues for the recreation fund)
Timing of park construction and trail construction as related
to the budget
Development of future neighborhood parks
Commissioner Rosen, based on his interview with the City Council
prior to his appointment to PRAC, perceived that the Council would like
more emphasis placed on park maintenance and the development of recreation
programs rather than the acquisition of new park land. Chair Edwards
and Commissioner Reed also stated that they were given the same impres-
sion by Council members. In view of this discussion, it was agreed
that this item should be discussed in more detail at the joint meeting.
Director Blank reminded the Commission that new park land is generally
acquired through park dedication rather than being purchased with tax
dollars.
b. Resolution Supporting the President's Commission on Americans Outdoors.
The Minnesota Recreation and Park Association has drafted a resolution
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PRAC Minutes of February 13, 1986
Page 5
asking for the support of two commissions: the President's Commission
on Americans Outdoors and the Commission on Minnesotans Outdoors as well
as support for the Federal Land and Water Conservation Fund (LAWCON)
and the State Legislative Commission on Minnesota Resources Fund (LCMR).
Both of these grant programs have been very beneficial to the City of
Plymouth in the way of park development as pointed out by Director
Blank. In view of the benefits received by the City from these two
grant programs, Director Blank encouraged PRAC to support the resolu-
tion. A MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER REED AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
ANDERSON TO ENDORSE THE RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE PRESIDENTS COMMISSION
ON AMERICANS OUTDOORS, THE COMMISSION ON MINNESOTANS OUTDOORS, AND THE
REVITALIZATION OF MINNESOTA'S LOCAL AND REGIONAL RECREATION GRANT
PROGRAMS. The motion carried with all ayes. Director -Blank then stated
that hearings would be held in St. Paul on April 16 regarding the Commis-
sion on Minnesotans Outdoors and several issues facing Minnesotans in
terms of outdoor recreational resources. Issues important to PRAC
included the continued development of the Luce Line trail, Voyageur
National Park, Minnesota River Valley, St. Croix River and the continued
maintenance and development of cross-country ski trails in Minnesota.
Commissioner Mullan stated that he had been told cross-country skiing
permits probably would not be required after next year. Funds from these
permits has been one of the sources for financing the grooming of our
state's trails.
c. Legislative Commission on Minnesota Resources. Director Blank shared
with the Commission a letter from Doug Carlson, Chairman of the LCMR,
which is asking for opinions on which natural resource opportunities
should be considered for funding in 1987. PRAC felt consideration should
be gi,!= tc cleaning up our la><e� rivers and streams; continued acquisi-
o�`•-' - o r -�
tion of high quality park and recreation lands; the possible introduction
of white amur fish into our lakes and ponds to help eliminate weeds, etc.;
and the development of river and lake oriented recreation opportunities.
7. COMMISSION PRESENTATION
Commissioner Mullan asked Director Blank if the City requires the architects
it hires to have insurance. Director Blank indicated that the City does
require these firms to be insured. Director Blank commented further that
he attended an insurance seminar in January where he was informed that
legislation has been proposed that would provide local governments the
same limited immunity now available to state government and certain private
landowners as related to the risk of injuries from participating in
recreation programs. Specifically, this legislation would:
provide limited immunity for claims based on the construction,
operation or maintenance of parks and recreation areas and for
the provisions of recreational services,
provide limited immunity for claims based on the clearing of
land, removal of refuse, or the creation of trails without
artificial surfaces,
hold municipalities liable for certain conduct - for example,
creating dangerous artificial conditions without warnings.
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PRAC Minutes of February 13, 1986
Page 6
Director Blank also informed the commissioners that he believes the City's
insurance covers them individually should they ever be sued by a resident
injured while participating in a recreation activity.
8. STAFF PRESENTATION
Director Blank stated that Hennepin Parks and the City are jointly working
on acquiring some property along East Medicine Lake Boulevard which is
within the regional trail right-of-way. The property has been appraised
at $33,000 but the owner is willing to sell it for $25,000. Since
Hennepin Parks is not in a position to buy it at this time, the City is
proposing to purchase it and later sell it to Hennepin Parks.
Commissioner Beach asked Director Blank if we have to pay for pool time
when we sponsor a program at the school district's pools. He stated that
we only pay if we require the services of a custodian for over -time.
9. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 9:05 p.m.
CITY OF PLYMOUTH
3400 PLYMOUTH BLVD., PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447
TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
MEMO
DATE: March 5, 1986
TO: James G. Willis, City Manager
FROM: Richard J. Carlquist, Public Safety Direct
SUBJECT Deer Task Force
The Deer Task Force met on 11_rch 5, 1986. The following members were
present: Jane Laurence Cooper, Dick !tilhollam, Carole Busch, Maria
Vasiliou and Director Carlauist. Three ring notebooks were distributed
for the purpose of storing the materials we have accumulated.
The purpose of the meeting was to collect facts and assumptions ssrrosnd-
ing our deer problem. After briefly reviewing the main points of the
last meeting we went on to list 23 facts or ass=tions about our deer
problem, they are as follows:
1. Damage to nursery stock is increasing_ F
2. Number of deer is not, O_ pmbahly and i s in fact
increasing. F
3. Available deer habitat area is inseasing. F
4. There appear to be significant areas that are most prone to deer
car collisions. F
5. White -tail deer populations are of a matriarchal structure; that
is the dominant deer is the most senior female. A deer herd will
typically range approximately one square mile and no further. F
6. A female fawn, born in the spring, will usually mate in the fall
and produce a single young the next spring. She will continue for
the next three to four years to produce twins and thereafter
retire into the herd for approximately six more years. A deer will
typically live ten to twelve years. F
7. The environment in Plymouth for deer (food source, cover, etc,) is
ideal. A
8. People who move to Plymouth rate the country setting extremely high. F
(Survey.)
9. Discharge of a fire=.. in an urban area is a safety hazard. F
10. Bow and arrow is less of a safety hazard than a shotgun/rifle etc. A
11. Sharp shooters (firearms) is a more humane way to kill a deer than
bow and arrow. A
12. Moving a deer herd (tranquilizing) is possible, however, is costly,
not guaranteed and may cause death to the deer. F
13. Professional Nursery Associations have not found a cost effective
way to eliminate damage fry deer. A
14. For a fence to be an effective barrier for deer it must be a minirmin
of eight feet tall. F
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DEQ'. TASK, FORCE
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15. The City has an obligation to find a solution to Task Force Char -j7 -e. f
16. A compatible solution to all interest groups is not feasible. A
17. A possible solution is to do nothing. A
18. The remedy for the Task Force Charge must be cost effective for
the City. A
19. Different solutions will have different price tags. F
20. A public safety hazard exists for motor vehicle vs deer collisions. F
21. Deer will travel siTailiar routes for feeding and sanctuary. A
22. Deer are mostly nocturnal i.e. they are eating mostly at night. F
23. Most deer vs motor vehicle collisions occur during dusk and dawn. F
The following figures were also submitted to the Task Force. They reflect
the Department of Natural Resources records for confiscation reports fro.:
197E through 1985. f. confiscation report is made any time the Department
of Natural Resources either releases a deer to an individual or coymes out
to pick up a deer carcass for some reason. The data is incomplete due to
a change in record keeping by the Department of Natural Resources.
YEAR NO. 07 DT=.
1978
15
1979
20
1980
39
1961
29
1982
Data ,z available
1983
23
1984
42
1985
34
June thru December
Excludi-g 1,L-r^ch and nay
January thru August
The Task Force then decided to hold its next meeting on April 9th at 7:00 P.i%
The purpose of that meeting will be to work into possible solutions
(recam endations)which can be forwarded to the City Council to use in
determining what to do with the deer problem in Plymouth. Jane Laurence
Cooper was assigned to research what other municipalities are doing with
deer problems and to consult experts from the University of Minnesota, the
Department of Natural Resources and Hennepin Park. Director Carlquist
suggested conducting a search through the Login Network over the computer.
Maria Vasiliou offerred to assist with the homework assignment if the load
got to be too much. The meeting was adjourned at approximately 5:30 P.M.
The minutes subndtted by Jane Laurence Cooper.
JLC/slm
March 4, 1986
Mayor Virgil Schneider
Citv of Plymouth
34uu Plymouth Blvd.
Plymouth, Minnesota 55447
Dear Mayor:
In August of 1985 it wasbrought to the attention of the City of
Plymouth about a vegetable stand being run out of a residence on
the corner of Highway lul and luth Ave. North.
After much confusion from City Nall as to what Dept. this problem
falls under, I was told it was a Police matter. Concerned citizens
of loth Ave. No. signed a petition to stop the vegetable stand and
it was presented to the Police Dept. Along with the petition
were pictures showing traffic, a delivery truck, parking etc.
problems caused by this stand.
Re: Wayzata/Plymouth Sailor newspaper dated March 3, 1986
"Plymouth takes a stand on a roadside problem"
The article states that Iaudette lives in a residential district
where retail sales of merchandise aren't allowed. I am glad to
read that yuu are aware of this fact. This is a residential area,
not commercial. The vegetable stand is run out of a home (garage)
from June to October and with the signs, flags, etc. it lvuks lire
a continual "GaraEre Sale." Tt degrades my neighborhood and I want
to see it closed down permanently.
The other problem this stand causes is traffic and parking problems.
The newspaper article again states that you are aware of this.
it states parking availability and some type of safe entrance and
safe exit for their business are among the considerations. If
J. Gaudette is able to obtain this criteria, I would not like to
see this in a residential area.
Last year a letter was received by a luth Ave. nume owner from
Blair Tremere, Dr. of Comm. Dev, that stated when the business of
this veg,table stand came before the City Council, home owners
within 5uu feet would be notified. Why was I not notified?
Thank you for your time.
Sincerelyh \
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Charles B. Nason
Mary Ann Nason
17610 D 10th Ave. No.
Plymouth, Minnesota 55447
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March 7, 1986
Mr. and Mrs. Charles B. Nason
17610 D 10th Avenue North
Plymouth, MN 55447
Dear Mr. and Mrs. Nason:
CITY O
PVMOUTI f
Thank you for your letter expressing your concern regarding the Council's discussion of
February 24, 1986 regarding the sale of vegetables.
I am enclosing for your information, a copy of the staff report which was sent to the
City Council that evening, as well an extract from the Minutes which deal with the
Council's discussion.
You will note that the staff report was dealing essentially with the establishment of a
"Farmer's Market" in Plymouth as well as some of the problems created by transient
merchants. The Council discussed this subject for some period of time and has general-
ly concluded that it is not inclined to establish a centralized "Farmer's Market" at
this time, but does desire to further explore the matter of the location and regulation
of transient merchants including vegetable stand operators.
You may be interested to know that we have tentatively scheduled this subject for fur-
ther discussion at the March 17, 1986 City Council meeting.
Please feel free to contact Mr. Blair Tremere, Director of Community Development, or
Mr. Frank Boyles, Assistant City Manager if you have any further questions regarding
this topic.
Yours truly,
mes G. Willis
Ci y Manager
OGW/ gew
cc: Mayor and Council
Blair Tremere
Frank Boyles
ENCS
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447, TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
March 7, 1986
Mr. Sohn Muchlinski
17710 10th Avenue North
Plymouth, MN 55447
Dear Mr. Muchlinski:
C IT O
PUMOUTR
111-1 �2_
Thank you for your letter expressing your concern regarding the Council's discussion of
February 24, 1986 regarding the sale of vegetables.
I am enclosing for your information, a copy of the staff report which was sent to the
City Council that evening, as well an extract from the Minutes which deal with the
Council's discussion.
You will note that the staff report was dealing essentially with the establishment of a
"Farmer's Market" in Plymouth as well as some of the problems created by transient
merchants. The Council discussed this subject for some period of time and has general-
ly concluded that it is not inclined to establish a centralized "Farmer's Market" at
this time, but does desire to further explore the matter of the location and regulation
of transient merchants including vegetable stand operators.
You may be interested to know that we have tentatively scheduled this subject for fur-
ther discussion at the March 17, 1986 City Council meeting.
Please feel free to contact Mr. Blair Tremere, Director of Community Development, or
Mr. Frank Boyles, Assistant City Manager if you have any further questions regarding
this topic.
Yours truly,
IS—
mes G. Willis
C ty Manager
DGW/ gew
cc: Mayor and Council
Blair Tremere
Frank Boyles
ENCS
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD. PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447, TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
March 7, 1986
Ms. dean dung
17605 10th Avenue North
Plymouth, MN 55447
Dear Ms. Junq•
r
CITY OF
PUMOUTR
Thank you for your letter expressing your concern regarding the Council's discussion of
February 24, 1986 regarding the sale of vegetables.
I am enclosing for your information, a copy of the staff report which was sent to the
City Council that evening, as well an extract from the Minutes which deal with the
Council's discussion.
You will note that the staff report was dealing essentially with the establishment of a
"Farmer's Market" in Plymouth as well as some of the problems created by transient
merchants. The Council discussed this subject for some period of time and has general-
ly concluded that it is not inclined to establish a centralized "Farmer's Market" at
this time, but does desire to further explore the matter of the location and regulation
of transient merchants including vegetable stand operators.
You may be interested to know that we have tentatively scheduled this subject for fur-
ther discussion at the March 17, 1986 City Council meeting.
Please feel free to contact Mr. Blair Tremere, Director of Community Development, or
Mr. Frank Boyles, Assistant City Manager if you have any further questions regarding
this topic.
Yours truly,
0 mes G. Willis
ty Manager
JGW/gew
cc: Mayor and Council
Blair Tremere
Frank Boyles
ENCS
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447, TELEPHONE (612) 559-2800
ruture of produce venaors
is a growing problem in city
By ANN ANDERSEN
For the first time in perhaps
20 years, Plymouth is looking
with concern at the fresh
vegetable stands that pop up in
various locations throughout the
city every summer. Discussed
but not solved at last week's
council meeting, the topic is
scheduled for consideration
again on Monday, March 10.
Complaints received from
residents last summer express-
ed concern about traffic conges-
tion and safety; about the ap-
pearance of some stands: about
the competition with established
retailers.
Customers who enjoy the
quality and freshness of the fruit
and vegetables as well as the
convenience of the produce
stands have come to the defense
of the summer vendors. One of
the joys of living in Plymouth is
the country charm of such
things as roadside produce
stands, they say.
Caught between the proverbial
rock and a hard place, the city
council considered one solution
Proposed by city staff --
establishing a central Farmers
:Market near Parkers Lake — but
it met with general disfavor
from the produce growers and
the council itself.
PRODUCE GROWERS didn't
like the idea of leaving estab-
lished areas and customers
which have been acquired over a
period of time. The council
didn't like the cost of insurance
and maintenance that would be
involved in a city -sponsored
project.
Another troublesome aspect
for the City council is that there
is a conflict between the city
code, which allows licensing of
"transient merchants," and the
zoning ordinance, which does
not provide for such activity in
either business or industrial dis-
tricts, much less residential
areas.
The city issued about 40
licenses last year to transient
merchants (defined as someone
engaging temporarily in the
business of selling and deliver-
ing goods and who hires, leases,
uses or occupies any building,
structure, vacant lot, motor
DAVID AND 1EANIE Gaudette say their fresh produce stand has
become on important second income for their family while allowing her
to be at home with their three children. sub photo by Ann Anderson
vehicle, tailer or railroad car)
Exempted from city licensing
are persons who sell farm pro-
duce on the land that they oc-
cupy and cultivate for the pro-
duction of that produce. But the
concerns of even these home -
occupied vendors are raised in
the current controversy.
JEANIE GAUDETTE was one
of three home -occupied produce
sellers who appeared at the
council meeting to discuss the
importance of their produce
stands.
Interviewed in her kitchen on
Saturday morning, Gaudette
explained their three-year-old
enterprise, conducted in the
garage located at the corner of
10th Ave. and N. Highway 101.
The garage, paneled and with
astroturf on the floor, is con-
nected to the house by a
breezeway.
"The whole idea for us is that
I can take care of the children. I
let my nursing license lapse at
St. Mary's because this was
working out," she said. "All
families seem to need a second
income to meet their needs and
this was our solution."
She said they've arranged
their family budget, and her ca-
reer, around the produce stand.
"And we've even planned our
family around it because this
one is going to be born before
planting season." she said. She
and husband David, a color
separator in the printing busi-
ness, have three children: one
daughter, 7, and two sons, 5 and
3. And they are expecting
another child.
-THE MOST IMPORTANT
thing for us is to be home raising
our kids. I feel very strongly
that one parent should be home.
We made that commitment
when we started our family. The
reason to have a family is to be
together." Jeanie laughed at the
thought of the togetherness that
will occur when their fourth
child arrives in the two-bedroom
home.
David explained their special
service and relationship with
customers. One once ordered a
dozen tomatoes of similar size
and color for a party. "%We'll
take care of that while we pick."
he said.
Having to sell their produce at
a farmers market would defeat
their family plan, both agree.
but licensing and inspection
would be fine. "We are picky
about what we sell. It's quality,"
Jeanie said.
Special council MCL111y
February 24, 1986
Page 47
Motion carried, five ayes.
Manager Willis reported on his proposals to cut the budget by
$120,000 to met the projected shorfalls in local government aids
from the State. Although it is premature to speculate on the
amount of the cutback, he is expecting to reduce expenditures by
that amount. He stated no action is necessary at this time, but
will be when the cutback amount is known.
Discussion followed on the use of the contingency fund.
Director Moore reported that the project, as requested by the
Bass Lake Homeowners Association, would include work associated
with the sedimentation basin and construction of the City trail
through Bass Creek south of the Soo Line Railroad and would cost=
an estimated $63,400. He summarized the results of the tests
conducted by the soil testing firm, the proposed improvements,
and the conclusion reached with the HOA. The developer of the
Creekwood Hills Addition will be asked to help pay for the
improvements as they are partially responsible for the problem.
MOTION was made by Councilmember Sisk, seconded by Councilmember
Zitur, to authorize the request for bids on the project.
Motion carried, five ayes.
MOTION was made by Mayor Schneider, seconded by Councilmember
Crain, directing staff to contact the developer to negotiate a
50/50 cost sharing on the project.
Motion carried, five ayes.
PROPOSED 1986 BUDGET
REDUCTIONS
Item 9-B
BASS LAKE SEDIMENT.ATIC
POND, PROJECT 561
Item 9-C
Director Moore reported that the work within the City of ELM CREEK DRAINAGEIA�)
Plymouth has been contracted for and will be completed this PROJECT
week. The work in Maple Grove has also been contracted for and Item 9-D
is expected to be completed by next week.
Vern Peterson, 17425 C.R. 47, stated the work did begin today
and is proceeding quickly.
Assistant Manager Boyles stated complaints about transient mer-
chants selling produce from roadside locations have been
received from neighbors and businesses in the community. As a
result, the possibility of establishing a Farmers' Market was
explored. The proposed Farmers' Market would be at the north-
west corner of C.R. 6 and Niagara Lane on the future Parkers
Lake playfield site and is intended to be a pilot program.
Development of the site would cost an estimated $5,000 and
Insurance would be approximately $4,400 per season.
Councilmember Vasiliou asked if this would be the only Farmers'
Market site and stated she has never seen a problem at the sites
she visits. She objects to local growers bring in produce they
have not grown, but doesn't believe this is a great problem.
FARMERS MARKET PROPOS"
Item 9-E
February 24, 1986
Page 48
Assistant Manager Boyles stated that enforcement of the City
Code requiring licensing is the biggest problem. There is a
conflict with the City Zoning Ordinance and transient merchants
are highly mobile.
Director Tremere stated that the Farmers' Market approach was
explored as a means of addressing problems of enforcing the Code
which allows transient merchants to operate anywhere with the
property owner's permission.
Marlys Jacobs, 6367 Lawndale Lane, Maple Grove, stated she never
had a license because the produce is grown by her and she
believes, therefore, that she is exempt from licensing. She
doesn't like the Farmers' Market idea because she is in a good
location and would lose her customers.
Floyd Broman, 10720 C.R. 116, Rogers, stated the growers are
looking for the opportunity to sell in Plymouth. He understands
the Code to exempt all produce sellers who have an owner's per-
mission to sell on a site, even if the produce comes from
another location.
Jeanie Gaudette, 1005 Highway 101, stated she checked with the
planner's office before moving to Plymouth to determine if she
could sell produce out of her garage and was told it was okay.
This year she was told she violated the ordinance.
Councilmember Sisk stated that because of the growth of the com-
munity people cannot keep doing business the same way as was
handled 15 years ago. Public safety concerns are different.
Councilmember Zitur stated he is not against a Farmers' Market
but is against the City paying the insurance. He is also
worried about the safety factor.
Director Tremere stated the problem with most of the sellers is
that they are not in the category of growing and selling the
produce on their own land; they are on other people's land or
have other people grow their produce. The transient merchants
license would allow them to sell anywhere, but the Zoning Ordin-
ance doesn't allow it and this at least, should be addressed.
Director Carlquist stated this is not a popular issue. He
believes the setting up of a Farmers' Market would not be a good
idea.
Discussion followed on traffic problems, zoning, liability
insurance, and defining areas for sales.
Attorney Thomson stated the City is not liable merely by issuing
a permit.
JF)G�.1Q1
February 24, 1986
Page 49
Director Tremere stated the Code language was written a .long
time ago before traffic was a problem.
The Council consensus was not in favor of a Farmer's Market.
The City Council would like to accommodate local growers as long
as: safe conditions can be retained, some type of indemnifica-
tion/liability insurance is provided by the transient merchants,
,neighbors are notified of the proposed sale in residential areas
and, they be allowed in all zones. Produce should be grown by
the seller, but not necessarily on the site of the sales.
Director Tremere explained that recommendations regarding zoning
could be formulated and referred to the Planning Commission for
the required public hearing.
The matter will be brought back before the Council with staff's
recommendations at the March 17 meeting.
MOTION was made by Councilmember Crain, seconded by Councilmem- ORDINANCE NO. 86-04
ber Vasillou, to adopt ORDINANCE NO. 86-04 RELATING TO FEE FOR INSTALLATION & REMOVA
SIGNS ERECTED ON SITES TO ANNOUNCE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND LAND OF SIGNS
USE ACTIONS; AMENDING SECTION 1015.23 OF THE CITY CODE. Item 9-F
Motion carried on a Roll Call vote, five ayes.
Assistant Manager Boyles reported on the League of Minnesota LMC AMICUS PROGRAM
Cities Municipal Amicus program enhancements which would Item 9-G*
Increase annual membership costs between 5 and 10%. He
recommended, and the Council concurred, that the League be
advised that Plymouth chooses not to participate in the expanded
program at this time.
The Council reviewed and approved the agenda for the March 10 MARCH 10 TOWN MEETIN'_
Town Meeting. This meeting is to include Area 9 lying north of AGENDA
C.R. 6, east of Highway 101, west of Vicksburg and south of 36th Item 9-H
Ave. Invitations will be mailed by February 28.
Assistant Manager Boyles presented a draft request for profes- FIRE STATION NO. 3
sional service for Plymouth Fire Station No. 3 and remodeling of REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL
Fire Station No. 1. Item 9-I
Council reviewed and approved the draft as well as the list of
consulting firms who will receive the request.
Manager Willis stated the City has solicited proposals for the SALE OF OUTLOTS B AN'
sale of Outlots B and C of Plymouth Parkview Addition for PLYMOUTH PARKVIEW ADC
private development. Four proposals were received and reviewed Item 9-0
by staff. He is recommending a purchase agreement be drafted
for the properties with Image Homes.
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PLYMOUTH POLICE DEPARTMENT
MONTHLY REPORT
CLASS I
MONTH FEBRUARY 1986
I MURDER RAPE I ROBBERY I ASSAULT BURGLARY I THEFT I AUTO THEFT I ARSON
1985 I 0 ( 0 1 0 I 7 I 8 i 65 i 7 I 1 I
1986 I 0 I 0 1 1 I 12 1 14 I 64 I 5 I 0 1
TOTALS 1985 88
1986 96 + 9.1%
CLASS II
COUNTERFEITIFRAUDI MENT IPROPERTYIVANDALISMIOFF ITUTIONIOFFINARCILINGIFAM/CHILDID.W:I.I LAW I CONDUCT I OTHER
1985 i n 1 14 I n 1 2 I 27 I n l 0 1 3 1 4 1 D 1 D I 28 10 I. 1 I 19 I
1986 I 0 I 12 i 0 1 0 1 24 I n I 0 1 3 1 7 1 0 1 n 1 37 1 9 1 4 1 41 1
TOTALS 1985 98
1986 137 +39.8%
CLASS III
FATAL -PERSONAL P ROn-RTY SNOWMOBILE P1tUILAL Jululuc nniunnL nnar,—
ACCIDENT I INJURY I DAMAGE I ACCIDENT I DROWNING I EMERGENCY I SUICIDE I ATTEMPTS -1 DEATH I BITES IFIRE 1
1985 1 0 I 10 i 53 1 0 I 0 1 46 I 0 I 2 I 0 ( 2 13
1986 1 0 I 15 I 76 I 0 I 0 I 67 1 0 I 2 I 1 I 3 112
TOTALS 1985 126
1986 176 +39.7%
CLASS IV
ANIMAL FALSE LOCK OTHER WARRANT TRAFFIC FIREARM SUSPICION MISSING LOST PUBLIC
1110MESTICIDETAILIALARMSIPROWLERIOUTS IAGENCYISERVED (DETAIL IVIOLATIONIINFORMATIONIPERSON IFOUNDINUISANCEI MISC. 1
1985 I 16 I 88 I 59 1 4 I 86 1 35 i 27 i 115 I 2 1 112 I 1 1 6 1 57 I 105 1
1986 1 22 I 74 i 62 1 0 1 89 1 35 I 50 I 154 i 0 1 71 I 2 1 6 I 53 1 58--1
TOTALS 1985 713
1986 676 - 5.2%
HAZARDOUS VIOLATIONS 1985 328 1986 309 - 5.8%
NONHAZARDOUS VIOLATIONS 1985 526 1986 584 +11.0%
CRIMINAL OFFENSES CLEARED 1985 41.3%
1986 37.4%
TOTAL NUMBER OF INCIDENTS 1985 1,025
1986 1.085 + 5.9%
PLYMOUTH POLICE DEPARTMENT
MONTHLY REPORT
CLASS I
MURDER RAPE I ROBBERY I ASSAULT I BURGLARY 1 THEFT I AUTO THEFT I ARSON
1965 0 � 0 I 0 � 15 I 39 I 11R I 16 I 1
1986 I 0 I D I 2 29 I 36 I 135 11 I 2 I
TOTALS 1985 189
1986 215 +13.8%
CLASS II
I COUNTERFE
1985
1986
TOTALS 1985
1986
RAUDI MENT IPR
40 I o I
19 I 0
184
253 +37.5%
CLASS III
FATAL PERSONAL PROPM
ACCIDENT I INJURY j DAMAGE
1985 I 0 I 26 I 126
1986 1 I 29 I 164
TOTALS 1985 303
1986 365 +20.5%
MONTH JANUARY - FEBRUARY 1986
EEN WEAP PROSTI SEX LAMB UFFtNbtb L►V• �•� �`
ERTYIVANDALISMIOFF ITUTIONIOFFINARCILINGIFAM/CHILDID.W.I,ILAW I CONDUCT I OTHER I
2 I 49 I O I 0 1 3 1 5 1 O I 0 I 49 I O I 3 I 33 I
n 1 49 1 0 1 0 1 5 1 15 I O I 1 1 65 121 I 7 I 69 I
DICAL aua�,iul
IDENT I DROWNING I EMERGENCY I SUICIDE I ATTEMPTS I DEATH I BITES I FIRES
0 i 0 i 102 I D I 3 I 3 1 6—1 37
0 I_ 0 I 123 1 0 i 5 I 3 I 4 I 36
CLASS IV
SSI
ANIMAL FALSE LOCK OTHER WARRANT TRAFFIC FIREARM SUSPICION MISSING LOST PUBLIC
IDOMESTICIDETAILIALARMSIPROWLERI OUTS JAGENCYISERVED IDETAIL IVIOLATIONJINFORMATIONIPERSON IFOUNDINUISANCE1 MISC. 1
1985 I 26 181 i 144 I T I 189 I 81 i 57 I 245 I 3 i 206 1 4 I 14 218
I 129 ( 1
7 123 148
1986 I 33 156 145 2 201 62 82 351 1
151 4 1 (
CRIMINAL OFFENSES CLEARED 1985 40.4%
TOTALS 1985 1,504
1986 32.03
1986 1,476 - 1.9%
HARZARDOUS VIOLATIONS 1985 582 1986 588 + 1.0% TOTAL NUMBER OF INCIDENTS 1985 2,180
NONHAZARDOUS VIOLATIONS 1985 1__074 1986 1,225 +14.1% 1986 2,309 + 5.9%
__ �—
PLYMOUTH FIRE DEPARTMENT
MONTHLY REPORT
TYPE OF REPORTED INCIDENTS BY TIME OF DAY
MONTH FEBRUARY 1986
$TURAGt IN 51KULIUKtZ� I I
SPECIAL STRUCTURES I I
0001 0401
0400 0800
0801
1200
1201
1600
1601
2000 12400
2001
{
CONFIRMED
CALLS {
FALSE
ALARMS
I TOTAL
NUMBER OF I
PERMITS ESTIMATEDi
I ISSUED I LOSS
PRIVATE DWELLINGS
{ I
{ 2
1 1
1 1 1
1{
4 I
1
1 5
I
1 1$25,000
APARTMENTS
{ I 2{
I 0
I 4{
4{
1 I
3 {
R
I 11
--
HOTELS ANO MOTELS
I I
I
I
I I
{
n I
0
I 0
I 0
ALL OTHER RESIDENTIAL
I I
I
I
I I
I
0 I
0
PUBLIC ASSEMBLY
{ I
I 1
1 1
1 1
1 I
4•3. I
0
I 3
1 -
SCHOOLS AND COLLEGES
I I
I
I I
I
I I
1 :I
0
1
HEALTH CARE INSTITUTIONS
I I 1
1
I 2
1 1
1 1 1
1 I
•
4
I 5
I
1 1 I --
PENAL INSTITUTIONS
I I
I
I
I
1 I
0 I
0
I 0--
I
j STORES ANU OFFICES
I I
I
I
I 1
1 1 1
1 I
1
I 2
INDUSTRY, MFG
I I 1
1
I
I
I 1 1
1 1
1
I 2
I -- I 1,500
$TURAGt IN 51KULIUKtZ� I I
SPECIAL STRUCTURES I I
I I
I I { I I 0
{ 0 I
0
FIRES OUTSIDE OF STRUCTURES I I
I { { I { 0
{ 0 I
0
FIRES IN HIGHWAY VEHICLES I {
{ 2 1 1 1 I I 2
I 1 I
3 200
jFIRES IN nTHER VEHICLES I {
{ I I I I 0
I 0
I O I - --
FIRES IN BRUSH, GRASS { (
{ I i i i 0
! 0
I 0
I
FIRES IN RUBBISH, DUMPSTERS I I
I { I I I 0
I 0
{ 0 1 I
ALL OTHER FIRES I {
I I I I I 0
I 0
I 0( - I --
MEDICAL AID RESPONSES I I
I I I I ( 0
I 0
I 0 --
"MALICIOUS FALSE ALARMS I I
I { I I I 0
{ 0
{ 0-
I MUTUAL AID OR ASSISTANCE I I
I I I I { 0
I 0
I 0
I ALL OTHER RESPONSES I I
( I I I 1 1 { I
I 1
I 2{ I ""
TOTALS
"INCLUDED IN FALSE ALARMS TOTALS
FEBRUARY 1985
CONFIRMED CALLS 17
FALSE ALARMS 12
TOTAL CALLS 29
ESTIMATED LOSS $3R,3nn
11 9 5 17 17
PLYMOUTH FIRE DEPARTMENT
MONTHLY REPORT
TYPE OF REPORTED INCIDENTS BY TIME OF DAY
- ZL
MONTHLY JANUARY - FEBRUARY 198E
i YUDL11. /1JJCr9DLl
SCHOOLS AND COLLEGES I I
0001
0401
0801
1201
1601
2001
CONFIRMED
FALSE
NUMSE-R OF
PERMITS ESITMATED
6
n400
n8n0
112nn
1600
2n00
2400
CALLS
ALARMS
TOTAL ISSUED LOSS
PRIVATE DWELLINGS
2
3
5
2
4
4
16
4
20 -- $31,100
' APARTMENTS
4
4
2
5
5
1
6
16
22 -- --
y HOTELS AND MOTELS
0 - - -
FIRES OUTSIDE OF STRUCTURES
0
0
0
0
0
TALL OTHER RESIDENTIAL
4
4
8 -- 17,700
FIRES IN OTHER VEHICLES
0
0
0 - - - -
FIkES IN BRUSH, GRASS
1
1
0
1 I
•
1 1
i C --
i YUDL11. /1JJCr9DLl
SCHOOLS AND COLLEGES I I
I 2
I
2 j
0
2
HEALTH CARE INSTITUTIUNS
1 1 2
1 3
2 1
6
8 1 --
PENAL INSTITUTIONS
0 1
0
0 - - - -
STORES AND OFFICES
1
1 2
2
2 1
4 -- --
INDUSTRY, MFG.
1
1
1
1
2 - 1,500
STORAGE IN STRUCTURES
0
0
0 - - - -
SPECIAL STRUCTURES
0
0
0 - - -
FIRES OUTSIDE OF STRUCTURES
0
0
0 - -
FIRES IN HIGHWAY VEHICLES 1
1 4 1
1
4
4
8 -- 17,700
FIRES IN OTHER VEHICLES
0
0
0_�T - - - - i
FIkES IN BRUSH, GRASS
1
1
0
FIRES IN RUBBISH, DUMPSTERS
1
1
0
ALL OTHER FIRES
1
1
0
1 - - 200
MEDICAL AID RESPONSES
1
1
0
1 - - -
MALICIOUS FALSE ALARMS
0
0
0 - - - -
MUTUAL AID OR ASSISTANCE
0
0
0 - -
ALL OTHER RESPONSES
1
1
1
1
2 - - - -
TOTALS f 7 1 11 1 14 1 15 1 18 1 12 42 35 77 1 $50,500
*INCLUDED IN FALSE ALARM TOTALS
YEAR TO DATE 1985
CONFIRMED CALLS 37
FALSE ALARMS 39
TOTAL CALLS 76
ESTIMATED LOSS #102,300
L -yam
SHINGLE CREEK WATERSHED
MANAGEMENT COMMISSION
3030 Harbor Lane • Plymouth, MN 55441
(612) 553-1144
M I N U T E S
January 9, 1986
A meeting of the Shingle Creek Watershed Management Commission was
called to order by Chairman Neil Johnson on Thursday, January 9,
1986, at 12:15 p.m. at Gordon's in the Park, 7725 Zane Avenue North,
Brooklyn Park, Minnesota.
Present were: Sy Knapp, Brooklyn Center; Neil Johnson, Brooklyn
Park; William Sherburne, Crystal; Gerry Butcher•,
Maple Grove; Milton Christensen, Minneapolis; Roger
Paulson, New Hope; Eugene Hakanson, Osseo; Lee
Gustafson, Robbinsdale; Peter Willenbring and Wil-
liam Weidenbacher, E.A. Hickok and Associates; Curt
Pearson, attorney; and Judie Anderson, recording
secretary.
1. Minutes of December 12, 1985, meeting.
Hakanson moved and Paulson seconded a motion to approve as writ-
ten the minutes of the December 12th meeting. Motion carried.
[The meeting was suspended for lunch and resumed at 12:50 p.m.]
2. Treasurer's Report.
Knapp moved and Butcher seconded a motion to approve the Treas-
urer's Report. Motion carried.
3. Approval of Claims.
Sherburne moved and Knapp seconded a motion to approve claims
totaling $18,672.23. The claims were approved by roll call vote:
ayes - Knapp, Johnson, Sherburne, Butcher, Christensen, Paulson,
Hakanson, and Gustafson; nays - none; absent - Plymouth.
4. Communications.
Johnson notified the Commission of Jeff Johnson's letter to Dan
Donahue in which he tendered his resignation as New Hope's repre-
sentative to the Shingle Creek WMO.
5. Insurance.
Pearson related his conversation with Dan Rooke of Insurance
Agents Group re the latter's conversation with various liability
insurance carriers.
6. Management Plan.
Weidenbacher informed the Commissioners that the TR20 model has
SCWMO Minutes
January 9, 1986
7.
8.
been completed but that his staff has not completed the HEC model.
Willenbring distributed and discussed the Hydrologic Modeling
Report. Weidenbacher will meet with Commissioners in two work-
ing sessions to identify possible problems indicated by the re-
port. Brooklyn Center, Brooklyn Park, Crystal, Minneapolis and
Robbinsdale will meet at Crystal City Hall on January 31 at 9:00
a.m. Maple Grove, New Hope, Osseo and Plymouth will meet at
Maple Grove City Hall on January 30 at 2:00 p.m.
Weidenbacher will develop implementation plans for final standards
in time for the March meeting. He would like comments to these
plans by March 25. A final draft will be preser_ted at the April
10th meeting.
Pearson mailed copies of the Interim Standards to the member
communities.
Knapp distrib,,:{.ed a copy of site development areas within his
community which would be affected under the current standards.
Project Reviews.
None.
Other Business.
Gustafson and Anderson will check other meeting sites and report
to the Commission at the February meeting.
Johnson reminded the Commissioners that election of officers,
selection of a depository and a deputy treasurer are scheduled
for the February meeting.
Pearson stated that the Water Resources Board has appointed an
Advisory Council to set criteria for reviewing the Management
Plans.
Weidenbacher was directed to determine the fees that will be
incurred by member cities under the EPA's NPDES program in time
for the February meeting.
Sherburne moved and Knapp seconded a motion to adjourn. There being
no further business before the Commission, the meeting was adjourned
at 2:50 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
/4__Z1_&
Judie A. Anderson
Recording Secretary
JAA
THESE MINUTES PENDING APPROVAL BY THE CTC BOARD AT ITS MARCH MEETING.
NORTHWEST SUBURBS COMMUNITY TELEVISION CORPORATr1iyt?rrrl�.� r
MEETING MINUTES �l
February 12, 1986, 7:30 AM
Brooklyn Park Studio
The regular monthly meeting of the CTC was held on Februe
1986 at the Brooklyn Park Studio and was called to order
President Cilke at 7:40 AM.
Directors presents were: Blank, Cilke, Dieleman, Donahue,
Garber, Gorse, Leto, Marshall, Tripet and West.
Staff present: Greg Moore, Mike Johnson, Dave Kiser, John Gibbs.
Others -present: Frank Anderl.
Correction to January minutes
Director Orn was present at the January meeting and his name was
omitted from the roll call.
Agenda Item II.1 - Approval of Minutes
Director Blank moved, seconded by Director West, to approve the
minutes from the January 8, 1986 meeting. Motion carried.
Agenda Item II.2 - Treasurer's Report
Director West moved, seconded by Director Tripet, to approve the
Treasurer's report as presented. Motion carried.
Agenda Item III.1 - Consideration of 1986 a0216
The CTC goals for 1986 had been referred to the Public Relations
Committee. That committee met and reviewed the goals and no
changes or modifications were made.
It was moved and seconded to approve the CTC 1986 goals.
Motion carried.
Agenda Item III.2 - CTC Committee Structure
The Executive Director said that the Executive Committee had met
since the last Board meeting to discuss the CTC committee
structure. He said that the various committees had been formed
for the CTC before there was a staff, and now that the CTC is an
operational entity, it is felt that the committees should reflect
policy making functions. The Executive Committee recommended
that there would now be two mayor committee, the Budget Committee
and the Policy and Activities Committee, and ad hoc committees as
necessary. Discussion followed regarding the Executive
Committee's recommendation regarding this committee structure.
Director West moved, seconded by Director Donahue, to approve the
Executive Committee's recommendation regarding CTC committee .
structure. Motion carried.
Agenda Item IV.1 - New building update
The Executive Director gave an update regarding the progress of
the new CTC center. He explained that the Executive Committees
of both the Commission and the CTC had suet and had given staff
the authority to approve change orders for the new facility. A
list of change orders and their approximate coat& was provided
' r
and discussion was held regarding these change orders. The Ex-
ecutive Director said -that the total project cost was ap-
proximately $1,640 under budget.
Agenda Item IV.2 - Report regarding negotiation with company for
ICN equipment
The Executive Director spoke to the Board regarding the ongoing
negotiations between the Commission and the Company regarding ICN
equipment. He said that staff had met with company repre-
sentatives at which time the company gave a counter -proposal
which was refected and another proposal is expected from the
company. He said that as of now there is no agreement and it is
hoped that this issue can be resolved short of going to court.
Frank Anderl, Interfaith 26 representative for St. Alphonaus
Church, was in attendance at the meeting and he asked if the ICN
hook up could be completed for that church. Mr. Anderl explained
that the reason St. Alphonaus would like to be connected to the
ICN is that they have submitted a proposal to Interfaith 26
requesting that St. Alphonaus be the originating point for all
Interfaith 26 programming on a full time basis. No answer could
be given at this time.
Agenda Item IV.3 - 1985 expenditure report
The 1985 expenditure report was provided to the Board members,
and it indicated that the CTC was approximately 5120,000 under
budget.
Agenda Item IV.4 - 1986 Public Relations Activities and Events .
The Executive Director explained that the Public Relations com-
mittee met and reviewed the information provided by staff regard-
ing major events to be covered by the CTC this.year and also
workshops that will be provided. Some of the events to be
covered will be the same as those covered in previous years such
as parades, etc. but a number of new events and projects will be
included.
At this time President Cilke announced that if any Directors have
a preference as to which committee they wish to serve on, they
should contact the Executive Director with their request. The
Executive Director said that the rules had been rewritten and are
ready for reviewal by committee, and it is hoped that this can be
done before the March Burd meeting.
Agenda Item IV.S - Committee Reports
The Rules 6 Procedures Committee and the Budget Committee had not
met in the past month.
The Personnel 6 Equipment had met to review the equipment -and
furniture budget for the new building. The Executive Director
explained that there is a 523,000 budget for furniture and the
low bid was 017,000. He said the equipment list is going out for
bids.
Director Gorse, Chairman of the Public Relations Committee, said
that the committee had met and discuased the public relations
schedule and budget for the coming year.
Agenda Item IV.6 - Cooperative Reports 1 k/ L,
Director Cilke, Religious representative,.reported that I-26 had
not met in January but a meeting is scheduled for February 26.
Director Leto, Educational representative, reported that time has
been spent negotiating regarding the ICN equipment and no full
coop meeting had been held but one is planned in the near future.
Director Marshall, Women's representative, reported that the
women's coop had met in Jan. and discussed plans for another
workshop tentatively set for some time in April with the Maple
Grove studio manager as guest speaker on set design. She said
that the group had formalized ways in which the CTC can provide
added support for the women's coop and that list will be sub-
mitted to the Executive Director. She said that women's groups
in the community had been contacted, and the women's coop has of-
fered to tape their group events in an effort to interest them in
taping and in joining the women's coop. Director Marshall said
that the women's coop continues to do tapings to provide programs
for their channel.
Agenda Item IV.7 - Staff Reports
Mike Johnson informed the Board members that from now on statis-
tics will be mailed out in the agenda packets for the month
preceding the last meeting. For example, in the March mailing
January statistics will be included. He explained that time is
too short from the end of the month till the wailing day to com-
pile complete statistics for the month dust ended. Johnson
reported that workshops scheduled by CTC staff are filling up and
that the "Introduce a Friend" contest begins February 15 and con-
tinues through May 16. He said that final plans are being made
regarding variety shows to be included in various city celebra-
tions anis that dance schools have been contacted or ,have con-
tacted us to cover dance recitals that take place in late spring.
At this time a question was raised whether the CTC has any idea
how much viewership community television has, and discussion fol-
lowed regarding this. At this time there is no way of knowing,
and it was suggested that possibly a stuffer questionnaire busi-
ness reply card could be included in the company's statements.
The Executive Director said that he would talk to the company
regarding this.
Dave Kiser reported on Production Department projects, and as his
report a video tape was played which showed a project done by the
production department on snow removal in the northwest suburbs so
that the Board -members could actually see what is being done by
the staff.
Agenda Item III.2 - Committee Structure
President Cilke said that one appointment had been overlooked
regarding ad hoc committees. He said it was recommended that
Carolyn Marshall be appointed to chair the ad hoc committees.
It was moved and seconded that this recommendation be approved.
Motion carried.
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At this time Frank Anderl thanked Mike Johnson 4&nd Dave Kiser for
all their help in getting the World Wide Mission Teleconference
on Interfaith 26 December 27 through December 31.
There being no further business, Director Donahue moved, seconded
by Director Marshall to adjourn. The meeting was adjourned at
8:30 AM.
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MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA 55440
(Formerly Minneapolis Bird Club)
February 28, 1986
Mayor Schneider
Councilmembers Crain, Sisk, Zitur,
and Vasilou
City of Plymouth
3400 Plymouth Boulevard
RE: Ivy Park Two - Comments on Preliminary Plat
and Grading Permit
Dear Sirs and Madam:
As you may recall, I am a member of the Conservation
Committee of the Audubon Chapter of Minneapolis. In this
capacity, 1 recently submitted written comments on the scoping
EAW for the project described above. These comments are set
forth in my January 14, 1986 letter to Blair Tremere. In this
letter, I noted several incomplete and/or inconsistent items in
the EAW.
Recently, I received a copy of the negative declaration for
the Ivy Park Two project (City of Plymouth Resolution No. 86-95).
Upon reviewing this Resolution, I was pleased to see that the
City Council incorporated several of the suggestions submitted by
others and me as conditions to further project development. Upon
a closer reading of the Resolution, however, I discovered a
number of ambiguities in the wording of these conditions.
As an attorney, I have had considerable experience with the
problems that ambiguous language can create. Therefore, this
letter will serve as my written comment upon the proposed
preliminary plat and grading permit. It is my hope that the City
will address and clarify the issues discussed below before
allowing any physical work upon the property.
Condition 3. Condition 3 does not clearly specify the
Representing National Audubon Society in Minneapolis
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February 28, 1986
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location of the 40 foot protective easement. Based upon the
discussion at the February 10 hearing, it is my understanding
that the 40 foot protective easement will cover all lands
adjoining the wetlands; specifically including all land abutting
the crescent-shaped pond. For ease of reference, I have enclosed
a photocopy of the proposed plat, which sets forth my conception
of this easement.
Second, as I mentioned in my January 14 letter, it is
absolutely essential that the City review the developer's
proposed declaration of covenants before approving either the
plat or the grading permit. The declaration of covenants will
serve as the primary vehicle for binding future homeowners in the
development. If the developer's proposed declaration does not
provide adequate protection, the City should prohibit any
physical development until a proper declaration is presented. In
addition, I trust that the proposed declaration will be available
for public inspection prior to approval of the plat.
Third, in a similar vein, it is my understanding that the
developer's declaration will give a public body the right to
enforce its terms. If the City is not willing to accept this
responsibility, perhaps the DNR would be an appropriate
enforcement body.
Condition 5. This condition calls for a protective easement
to protect all lands lying below the DNR's high water mark.
Again, the developer's proposed declaration must be reviewed to
ensure that it affords sufficient protection to these lands. In
addition, the language in this Condition should be amended to
provide that if the DNR should change the ordinary high water
mark, the area covered by the easement will change accordingly.
Condition 6. As I understand it, Outlot A on the preliminary
plat wi 1 remain in its current; i.e., predevelopment state.
Condition 6 contains the restriction guaranteeing this
protection. As written, however, Condition 6 could conceivably
be interpreted as giving the developer the option of grading or
otherwise developing the lot. If this was to occur, this altered
state would become the new "natural state." Certainly this is
not the result intended by the City. Accordingly, the grading
permit, if granted, should prohibit all grading or other physical
work on Outlot A.
Condition 7. Based upon recent conversations with several
residents of the city of Plymouth, I have learned that the DNR
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February 28, 1986
Page Three
plans to search for endangered plant species on the property in
mid-to-late June. I have attached to this letter a letter from
Keith Wendt at the DNR, which indicates that it would be
impossible to conduct an accurate search until this time. If the
DNR search indicates that there are endangered species on the
land, appropriate measures must be taken to protect these
species.
Second, this Condition should be amended to make it clear
that no physical development (except for the staking of lots and
related survey work) may occur until the DNR has made its final
determination on this matter.
Condition 8. This Condition governs preservation of the
crescent-shaped pond. As I understand it, the City intends to
preserve the pond in its present state and configuration. The
language used in Condition 8 ("same open water characteristics"),
however, is open to several interpretations. It should be
obvious that preservation of the crescent-shaped pond is a
high-priority item for both the Audubon Society and the affected
homeowners. Therefore, the City should amend this Condition to
make it clear that the pond will not be subjected to any change
whatsoever.
Incidentally, if the pond is to be preserved in its present
state, Lot 9 in the developer's preliminary plat will not be
buildable. In order to make it clear that the pond is to be
preserved, I suggest that this Lot 9 be removed from the
preliminary plat. Surely the loss of one lot can not be too
great a burden on the developer.
Condition 9. It appears that the City has not yet rejected
the concept of a temporary haul road across the low-lying areas.
I strongly urge that no road be approved until the developer
demonstrates that such a road is necessary. It appears that if
Lot 9 is eliminated, the developer will be able to obtain a
sufficient amount of fill for the remaining lots on the east end
of the project from the high ground lying on the east end. If
the developer nevertheless feels that a haul road is necessary,
he should be required to set forth in writing the cubic feet of
fill required for the easterly lots, and the cubic feet of fill
available from the east end. If there is only a slight
difference, perhaps the extra fill can be transported on existing
roads.
General. The Resolution nowhere sets forth any penalty for
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Page Four
the developer for failing to meet the established conditions. I
trust that the City will be requiring a substantial bond prior to
the inception of any development.
Finally, in several places in this letter I have asked that
the language in the Resolution be amended. This could be
accomplished in two ways. First, the City could pass a new
Resolution, amending Resolution No. 86-95. Alternatively, if the
City chooses to grant the permit request, the City could
incorporate the revisions as conditions to the grading permit.
If you should have any questions, please call me at (612)
337-1633.
Cordially,
ohn T. Cross
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Vern Hartenburg, Superintendent
Suburban Hennepin Regional Park
District
PO Box 41320
12615 County Road 9
Plymouth, MN 55441
Dear Vern:
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ciry of
PLYMOUTFF
On Monday evening, February 24, the Plymouth City Council passed a resolution
authorizing the acquisition of the property at 3005 East Medicine Lake Boule-
vard. The acquisition of this property was contingent upon the following
conditions:
1. The cost of the acquisition shall be $25,000 plus one-half the
taxes due and payable in the year 1986 (estimated at $165.56).
2. The Suburban Hennepin Regional Park District agrees to reimburse
the City of Plymouth for all costs incurred on this project
including the interest no later than five years from the date
of closing by the City.
3. The Park District agrees to demolish and remove the house at
3005 East Medicine Lake Boulevard within 12 months of the date
of acquisition of the property by the City of Plymouth.
The City of Plymouth, for many years, has been committed to the acquisition
and development of a trail on the east side of Medicine Lake. The acquisition
of this property is a major step toward realizing that goal of a regional
trail. It is for this reason that the City of Plymouth is willing to invest
now to enjoy the benefits in the future.
I received a call today from Mrs. Medley who indicated that her father-in-law
is now anxious to proceed as quickly as possible with this transaction. I
would, therefore, request that you schedule this item for board action at
your earliest convenience so that we may notify the Medley's of the District's
position with this matter. If you would notify me of the date that this is
scheduled for Board action, I would like to testify as to the necessity and
benefits associated with this project from the City's point of view.
If you have any questions with regard to this matter, please do not hesitate
to give me a call. Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
Eric J. Blank, Director
Park and Recreation Dept.
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cc: David Latvaaho, Chairman of the Board
Bob Wicklund, Hennepin Parks Central Division Manager
Mayor and City Council
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447, TELEPHONE (612) 559.2800
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March 3, 1986
CITY C�
PUMOUTR
Joan Anderson Crowe
Secretary of State
State of Minnesota
180 State Office Building
St. Paul, MN 55155
Dear Ms. Crowe:
SUBJECT: Federal Polling Place Accessibility Law
The City Council of the City of Plymouth concurs with the objectives of the
Federal Polling Place Accessibility Law. However, the requirements of the
law, including the annual on site survey of polling places, are onerous in
light of current Federal and State actions.
Requiring local governments to complete individual surveys of their polling
places poses a substantial additional responsibility on local governments, a
responsibility which costs money in time and employees. In Plymouth this
amounts to 14 individual site inspect ions, each of which consists of some 27
separate questions. We have only one individual on our staff responsible for
the conduct of elections. This person is also responsible for numerous other
ongoing activities. Considering that only one person is available to
administer elections and considering City financial shortfalls resulting from
reductd Federal and State aids to Plymouth, we are unable to perform the
inspections and associated recordkeeping provided for under the Federal
Polling Place Accessibility Law.
By this letter I am confirming that Plymouth is in compliance with Minnesota's
accessibility requirements for the handicapped and elderly. I can assure you
that we will continue to make every effort to select polling places that
comply with federal and state accessibility requirements.
This letter is being submitted in lieu of the surveys you have requested. Any
comments or questions should be directed to our City Clerk, Ms. Laurie Houk.
Yours very truly,
Z� /Ia
Virgil Schneider
Mayor
cc: City Councilmembers
Laurie Houk
3400 PLYMOUTH BOULEVARD, PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA 55447, TELEPHONE (612) 559.2800
JOAN ANDERSON GROWE
Secretary o/ State
ELAINE VOSS
Deputy Secretary o/ State
Virgil Schneider, Mayor
City of Plymouth
3400 Plymouth Blvd.
Plymouth, Minnesota 55447
Dear Mr. Schneider,
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OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY OF STATIr ._, ,
Paul 55155 F
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���•• Corporation Division: 61 2 296 2803
UCC Division: 612296 2034
March 5 , 1986 Office Electron Division 612,296-2805
of the Secretary: 612.2963266
Office of Deputy Secy.: 6121296.2309
Thank you for your letter regarding the federal polling place accessibility law.
We certainly appreciate your comments about the difficulty of accomplishing the
requirements of this law when no funds or staff were provided. We have exactly
the same problem on a considerably larger scale.
The Office of the Secretary of State has only two individuals to accomplish all
state election activities, and these people are also responsible for other
ongoing activities. We are struggling with the responsibilities that the act
imposed upon us: to develop and print the guidelines, to mail them out to 2,700
different election jurisdictions, to get in responses and compile data for more
than 4,000 precincts. The postage costs alone will cause us to eliminate an
election publication that we would otherwise prepare.
In most states, counties have responsibility for polling places so the number of
reporting jurisdictions that other state election officials have to deal with
will be minimal compared to the number in Minnesota. Because of this large
number, we have determined that follow-up letters and requests for additional
information are not possible. Our report to the federal government can not
possibly include variations and explanations for more than 4,000 precincts; it
will have to be limited to two categories only: 1) precincts which have been
surveyed and reported to be accessible and 2) precincts not surveyed, inac-
cessible, or not reporting.
We wish we could accept your letter as sufficient but the federal law requires
us to determine that all polling place have been surveyed. The State Council
for the Handicapped, 208 Metro Square Bldg., St. Paul, MN 55101; (612)296-1744;
may be able to suggest volunteers or other strategies to help accomplish the
surveys. We believe that Plymouth and most other Minnesota election jurisdic-
tions are concerned about the needs of all voters and the accessibility require-
ments of state law. We hope that somehow we can all struggle together and
supply evidence of this to the federal government.
cereI ,
G ace aukoos
D*rector - Elections
cc: Laurie Houk
Sue Lasoff, Council for the Handicapped
CPT8.028 "AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER"
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23 February, 1986
To: Supervisor of Police Officers
Plymouth Police Department
3400 Plymouth Blvd
Plymouth, SIN 55441
From: fill Van Oss
612 NE Adams St
Apls, MIN 55413
Dear Cf-ficer/Supervisor,
Last week I needed some clarification on the laws regarding
what constitutes a legal bumper because I received a fix -it
ticket -from your police department. My first call put me through
to the T)epartment's dispatcher. The man was polite but, did
not knee, the answer to my question. He asked around the office.
Nobody else knew either. He gave me the number which would put
me throl_.gh to a police officer.
I then spoke to Officer/Supervisor Ward. He helped to answer
my questions, he told me when he would be working last week
so I could see him directly to clear my ticket, since he knew
of my situation.
As it turns out, I could not stop by during his scheduled hours,
but because of his sound advice had not any problems from the
Officer who checked my car. I thank Officer Ward and the
friendl-~ dispatcher who both project a professional yet caring
attitude. You are fortunate to have them in your service.
I hope you will forward this thanks to Cflicer Ward. I do
appreciate his concern and honesty.
Sincerely
Jill Van Oss