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SPECIAL COUMCIL MEETING
MARCH 14, 1963
The regular meeting of the Plymouth City Council was called to
order by Mayor Davenport at 7:.35 p.m. In the Council Chambivrs of
the City Center at 3400 Plymouth Boulevard on March 14, 1963.
PRESENT: Mayor Davenport,
Hells and Moen,
Manager Voyles,
Dlrector Blank,
Houk*
ABSENT: None
CONSENT AGENDA.
Cour:cl !mftibers Threinen, Schneider,
City Manager Willis, Assistant City
Engineer Moore, Planner Tremere, Park
City Attorney Lefler, and City Clerk-
MOvION was made by Councilmember Moen, seconded by Councilmember
Neils, to approve the consent agenda as presented.
Notion carried on a Rol. Call vote, five ayes.
CIINSEN l AGENDA
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Motion was rade by Councilmember riaan, seconded by Councilmember MINUTES - RECMAR
Nells, to approve the minutes of the regular meetinq of March 7, MEETING 0f
1983 as submitted. MARCH 79 1183
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Notion carried on a Roll Call vote, five ayes.
Mayor Davenport Introduced Faith Menke, a Plymouth re3.1dent and
student at Augsburg College who wlii be working with hien on her
Internship program.
KTITI.OII39 REQUESTS AND COMMAIMIC.ATiONS
N:.rwger Willis explained that the property, approximately 42S
acres located between Dunkirk Lane and Hlagara Lane, north of
County Road 6 and along the north and west sides of Park4tra
Lakep has been owned by the City of Minneapolis since the mid
1920'x. It was an extension of the old Minneapolis workhouse.
The City of Knneapolis had a concept plan for an RPUD approved
In 1977. Since then nothing has occurred with respect to that
original plan. Lundgren Brothers recently has become interested
In developing a portion of this property and they have entered
Into an agreement with Minneapolis to develop the land and will
buy a part of the property for their own development.
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PARKERS LAKE
DEVELOPMENT LAND USE
GUIDE PLAN AMENDMENT
PLArd11:D UNIT
DEVELIIPMENT9 CONCEPT
PLAN 182066)
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The Planning Commission considered this mantel~ ov. February 23
and adopted a resolution r:.ommending approval of the WUD
concept plan and related amendment of the City Land Use Gulde
Plan. The amendment involves approximately 56 acres adjacent to
Niagara Lane and would change the guiding from LA -3 to IP. This
project is one welch will require a nurter of years to
complete. It is not contemplated that there be any specific
timetable although Lunelren Prothers Intends to move ahead more
rapidly on their property. If the concept plan Is approved and
the developer's representative takes the next step, it will be
to develop a preliminary plan and plat for the entire parcel.
Any timeframe will be established by Lundgron brothers and the
City of Minneapolis. Throughout the process there will be a
number of public hearings held before the Planning Commission
where residents can get information and state any concerns they
may have.
Peter Pflaum, Lundgren Brothers, gave the background of his
nvo veeent with the project. He stated he believes this is not
only a large but an Important project to the City and should be
done correctly.
Mlehael Pflaum, Lundgren Brothers, showed some photos of the
evN opment area and exp!alned that a proposed change In the
guiding of uste %e.'.lon, from LA -3 to lndustria:, would help the
City In eontroll!ng the transition between areas of
development and ed;aeent properties. They have attempted to
keep the planned uses consistent with the uses they abut. He
polltted out that: the anticipated density had been 1300 to 2300
dwelling .nits. With the regulding they art proposing, the
expected residential density would be between 1077 and 1845
duelling units.
In response to one of the adjoining neighborhood's concerns
about removing tce s, Peter Pflaum explained that Lundgren
Brothers likes to begin Its developments with the highest priced
homes. The reason they chose to put the road In through the
wooded area Is to create the feeling that this Is a prestigious
area. Of the 130 lots they propose to develop, only 13 will be
In the woods and these will be the most expensive homes.
Councilmember Schneider asked It all the trails shown on the
concept plan are required by the City. Park Director Blank
answered that all the trails are mandated by the City trail
plan.
Mayor Davenport asked for a de'lnitlon of a special use park.
Park Director Blank stated Lhat a parcel of land which would not
fit Into any of the City's three park designations is put Into a
special use category. Every one of these parks has a different
use and he believes their main purp030 is to ddd a sense of
openness to a neighborhooO The school district has expressed
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an W-erest in haying a school in tht area and so are working
With tamdgren Brothers and the City on some shared use of one
site for school and neighborhood park purposes.
Rick SAthre, Sathre-Berquist, Inc., engineer for Lundgren
roE ers# stated that the area in the northwest section being
proposed for a park would be generally dry. He pointed out the
drainage areas and which areas he would consider wetland. He
stated he beliv.es that any storm wafer would run off the
ponding areas and no permanent flooding would occur.
Fred Sattler, 16550 28th Ave., President of the Mapledell
aVearners Association, stated they don't have any serious
problems with the development.; they believe this is a good
concept plan and consistent with the guiding and they have no
opposition to the proposed reguiding. They are concerned with
the park land and the quality of it. They would like to retain
as many trees as possible. He stated that a significant portion
of the proposed park land Is wet most of the year and not
useable as park. They are concerned that the driest and best
areas will be developed and the wet areas will be left for the
park. He asked that the Council direct the developer to follow
the approved Comprehensive Park Plan in developing this parcel
and support the Planning Commission's directions.
Mr. Sathre polnted out the portion of the trail which would have
to be relocated because of development.
Tom witchger, 16531 26th Ave., asked If anyone ct,isidered how
many acres of woods would be cut out by the proposed road
location.
Richard Novak, 2000 Fountain Lane, stated he is concerned with
the fact that the storm drainage system has not been completed
on the portion of the plan which would affect his property.
Engineer Moore answered that there Is no drainage system
constructed in ;his area now. One reason Is because a major
portion will be installed as a part of the upgrading of Dunklak
Lane which is scheduled for 1984 in conjunction with this
development. Another option may be for the developer to Install
lnLerle facilltles so that drainage diverted outside of the
develcpment would not be lncreawad.
Mitzi Wittchge_r, 16531 26th Ave.,
ZZsEffieonly one left west
which is designated as park and
as contemplated in the Park Plan,
stated that this portion of
of I-494 and south of Hwy 55
they would like It to remain
Barb Thode, 16451 26th Ave., stated her support for keeping the
woods and asked that the proposed road be moved south of 24th
Ave.
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David K lelb, 16441 26t
round In "& wooded ar
two public water areas
be a public water. Mr.
that are not shown on
developed with all the
h Ave , asked how many marshes had been
ea. Mr. Sathre answered that there are
and one other wetland area ton swell to
Klelb stated he has found water In areas
the maps and asked No a park ea Id be
water .In the area.
K. C. Chermak, 2100 Fountain lane, stated that because of the
development to the west of his property, his lard Is now partly
under water and stated his concern with what might happen 'o his
property after these parcels are developed.
Mayor Davenport stated that there
project of this magnitude the City
the Installatlot, of drainage.
Al S obe , 16500 29th Ave., stated
area sh cannot be duplicated and
Is no question that with a
will pay extra attention to
that the woods Is a unique
should be preserved.
There were teu other residents present who chose not to speak.
Mayor Davenport complimented Peter and Michael Pflaum and their
consultants for the quallty of the work they have done on the
plan.
Bruce Malkerson, attorney for Lundgren Brothers, revlew9d
Engin r Roorews comments on the concerns stated In their mann
cf februiry 23. Covncllmewber Threlnen stated that the Item
dealing with compensation for required easements for nine well
sites seems to be an area of potential disagreement.
Michael Pflaum stated that their coficern with the requirement of
weti easements is that It may constrain the development around
the wells.
Mayur Davenport noted that an Environmental Impact Statement
EIS) is required un this site. Manager Willis stat^c tha! it
will be done with the preliminary plat/plan.
Planner Tremere stated that staff has developed a list of what
is regiilred for an Environmental Assessment Worksheet (EAW) acid
the EIS process and this will be gone over with the developer
prior to a preliminary plan.
Discussion followed on the timing of the
processing and changes In the preliminary
stated that traffic flow would be a major
the development.
EIS relative to the
plat. Manager Willis
Issue associated with
Councllmember Threlnen suggested that the Council look at the
site area by area and list any concerns or problems, starting in
the east and moving west, deferring final action and referrltig
the unsolved Issues for solution by staff and developer to be
brwwjht to the Council on April 11. He further suggested that a
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llsting be oak of the neighbor's concerns and aeleled as part of
W re"lutfon. 'This list should lncludet 1) woodland
preuratlon and retention; 2) density credit For dry land only,
density being considered For that portion of land over the 100
year flood stages 3) tie in with the Maple Creek park; 4) road
entry through woods be moved to the south= S) drainage must be
dealt with by the Cltyl 0 controlled phasing, particularly the
Interim drainage facility requlrements= and 7) maintenance of
trails In the woods.
Mayor Oiavenport called for comments on the plan areas, and
discussion ensued regarding areas B and A. Councilme+mber
Schneider stated camern about good transition frob area B to
the north. Council member Threlnen stated PRAC had reviewed the
park Issue in area A, and the remalnl Issue seems to be the
status of the weodlands.
Council -amber Threlnen
Lundgren brothers and
to K b.!taslon between
whether the matter was
noted the March 11, 4983 letter
asked whether the Issues were still
the petitioner and the neighbors,
set, pending Council action,
from
open
or
Peter rflaue stated that a cumpromise may be possible but he
feels th-st they have already made compromises and asked the
Council for guidance on the use of they woods. From the polpt of
view of the City of Minneapolis, the wooded area Is some of the
best land and should be developed.
MOTION was made by Councllmember Threlnen, seconded by Mayor
Davenport, to defer final action on the request to the April 11
meeting so the petitioner can address the Issues directed by the
Council.
Mutlon carried five ayes.
Councilme ber Neils stated that the park In the northwest corner
and the exact boundary !Ines were not determined in 1977, but
the minimum acreage was ddop•.ed and the resolution at that tree
stated that the petitioner would be allowed density credit In
some other area It the p:,rk site was Increased. She suggested
that the acreage outlines: as 14.8 acres be dedicated for pa".k,
hopefully to be planned in conjunction with the Maple Creek
Park. Anything over and above the 14.8 acres the developer
gives for park be considered as, compensation for density cra,llt
or fegulding. She added she doesn't believe .he City sh-luld
take the entire wooded area and leave the developer with not` -Ing
but farmlalnl. She stated she believed Lundgren Brothers would
try to retain the trees.
CImmall mi ber !ells proposed tjtiat the Counsi! accept 14.8 acres
out of the 24 aures in the northwest corner as park. It was
point4d out that of the 24 acres, approximately 12 are below
the 100 year flood level elevaticn.
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Couneilmewber Moen stated preservatlon of trees should be
specified. Coune.11member Schneider did not concur with
Counellmember Hells as the proposal related to the requlding and
to final density.
It was the concensus of the Council that the entire Winds Is not
sacred", to be retained through park dedication.
Mayor Davenport stated he wouldn't want any less than the 14.8
acres and he would like to see more. He doesn't feel, however,
It is realistic to take all the woods for park.
Manager Willis stated that the Council should clarify the
Council position as to what will satisfy their Interest In this
area and whether the proposal is adequate. Mayor Davenport
observed that the Council was spilt on this.
Councllmember Schneider stated he would like to see the road
moved to the south of 14th Ave. to enhance the preservation of
the woods.
Councilmember Threlnen stated he has a problem with the trading
of density credits for woodland because Lundgren Brothers Isn't
the owner of the entire property but must deal with the City of
Minneapolis. He also has a problem with the potential dra.lnage
effects to the west of the site.
Engineer Moore stated that the drainage problems must be solved
with the, upgrading of Dunkirk Lane currently planned for 1984.
Peter Pf laum asked that this be brought back to the Council at
Its meeting of March 21 Instead of April 11 and he would have a
plan which would include the data from the City Storm Drainaqe
Plan. He said this would provide a better understanding of
drainage needs, Including Interim Improvements on the site.
Councliodn Threlnen asked ..f the Interim Improvements were known
and Mr. Pflaum responded that details would net be available
until the Preliminary Plat was prepared.
MOTION w44 made by Coun:ellmember Threlnen, seconded by Mayor
Davenport, to defer further consideration of this FetitiOn until
the March 21 meeting.
Motion to defer carried, five ayes.
NOTION was made by Councllmember Moen, seconded by Councilmember
Hells, to aOopt RESOLUTION N0. 83-126 CALL111C FOR PUHLIC HEARING
PURSUANT lO MINNESOTA STATUTES AND PUBLICATION OF NOTICE ON THE
1.DR8 REQUEST OF GARY R. BLUEN.
Notion cdrrled on d Roll Call vote, four 4Y03. Mayor Davenport
abstained.
RESOLUTION N0.83-126
HEARING ON IONS
REQUEST OF GARY R.
tiLUEM/PR0-DESICN
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140TION was Heade by Councilmember Nells, seoonded by
Couw member Schmelder, to adopt RESOLUTION NO. 83-127 REQUEST
FOR PAYMENT N0, S AND FINAL, PARKERS LAKE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT,
610 A, PROJECT NO. 606 In the amount of $33,469.01 to Shafer
Contracting.
Notion carried on a Roil Call vote, five ayes.
NOTION was made by Councllmember Moen, seconded by Councllm+ember
Nelle. to adopt RESOLUTION NO. 8.1-128 APPROVING TRAFFIC CONTROL
SIGNAL AGREEMENT, N106AY 55 AT FERNBROOK AND XENIUM LAMES, CITY
PROJECT NO. 227.
Motion carried on a Roll Call vote, five ayes.
NOTION was made by Councllmember Moen, seconded by Councllmember
Nells, to adopt RESOLUTION NO. 83-129 APPROVING THE ACQUISITION
OF THE RIGHT TO REMOVE THE EXISTING HOUSE AND CRADE THE LOT AT
1751 WEST MEDICINE LAKE DRIVE, PROJECT N0, 122, 1STH AVENUE
STREET AND UTILITY ITPROVENENTS.
Notion carried on d Roll Call vote, five dyes.
MOTION was made by Counclleember Moen, secondee) by Councllmember
l+allss to adopt RESOLUTION N0. 83.1)0 APPROVING PEDDLERS,
SOLICITORS, OR TRANSIENT W RCHANTS LICENSE FOR CLFNN PAUL AARON
TO SELL PACKAGED ICE CREAN FROM A TRUCK.
Notion carried on d Roll Cdll vote, five dyes.
OTHER BUSINESS
Councllmaember Threlnen stated he will
approval, comments, to be mdde to the
Its April S meeting. He also dSkt'l'.
the lnterfalth Outreach be placed 00%
a presentation to the Council,
be presenttnq, for Council
Waste Mandgement Board at
that d rt -presentative from
an upcomiml agenda to make
Mayor Ddvenport reported that a Metropolitan Council docislon on
Plymouth's Opt Out proposal has been postponed until April 7 to
give the legislature time to amend the law deallnq with this
option.
The meeting was adjourned at 11:40 M.
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RESIXU1.1ON MO.61427
PARKFRS LAKE, 810 A,
PROJECT 606
N0. 5 A FINAL
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RESOLUTION NO.83-128
SIGNAL AGRFFHENT
PROJECT 227
Item 6-p•
RESOLUTION dO.83-129
1751 W. MEDICINE
LAKE DRIVE
PROJECT 122
1 t em 6-f.
RESOLUTION NO.83-130
LIC. -ISE, GLENN
PAUL BARON
Item 6-F•
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