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SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING
APRIL 239 1973
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Plymouth NA,:s eci4l''meetin9'of the Villa9e Council was"called toorder by Mayor Hi l de at
7:35 p.m,, in the Council Chambers of the Public Work's i uilding, 14900 Twenty-third Avenue
North, Plymouth, on April 23,,,1973.!,
PRESENT: Mayor ;Hi lde, Councilmen Hunt, Spaeth _ Soi bold, and Neils. Managgr')Wi l l is , Engineer
Goldbierg and Planner Overhiser
ABSENT: None
MOTION was made by Councilman Seibold, seconded by CouncIlman MINUTES;- APRIL 166,1973 \
Neils, to approve the minutes of tht' 1pril- 16, 1973 Regular REGULAR MEETING \\
Council Meeting, Motion carried, five ayes, ;\
At the meeting of April 16 the Cokinci l ,deferred. action on the
petitioner's request for a variance for the location of tteir
sign in front of their building at. 1C70 Highway 55 and direct-
ed the staff to work with the devel-. Ts to arrive at a ;riddle
ground solution to this matter. The variance requested by the
petitioner was for a zero foot setback; ordinance requires a 50
foot setback, The Manager report_d the staff has met with,the
developers and an agreement was reached between them to hate
the sign it feet from the street right of way line therefore reck
quiring a variance of 28 feet from the ordinance requirement,
MOTION was made by Councilman Neils, seconded by Councilman
Hunt, to adopt RESOLUTION NO, 73-157, A RESOLUTION APPROVING A
SETBACK VARIANCE OF 28 FEET TO NORTHERN HOLDING COMPANY FOR THE
LOCATION OF AN IDENTIFICATION SIGN IN FRONT OF THEIR 55 WEST
BUILDING, NOT TO EXCEED 20 FEET IN HEIGHT AND THE FACE OF THE
SIGN NOT TO EXCEED 8 FEET BY 10 FEET. Motion carried on a Moll
Call vote, five ayes.
NORTHERN HOLDING S bE-
VELOPMENT CO. - APPEAL
FROM BOARD OF ZONING
ADJUSTMENT FOR SIGN
At the time the council reviewed the proposed 1973 budget fol%
the Engi neeri r,g Department, it was decided that additional per-
sonnel ;'or that department would not be approved until a new
Village En sneer was hired and he had the opportunity to become
familiar w th the situation to determine what additional staff
might be required, Request was model for the addition of one
staff person who world be basically a field supervising inspe4;tor,
Engineer Goldberg explained there would be one other part-time
inspector or the staff to handle projects carried over from lust
year,
RESOLUTIIN NO.. 73-157
REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL
ENGINEERING DEPARIMENT
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RESOLUTIIN NO.. 73-157
REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL
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MOTION was made by Councilman Hunt, seconded by Councilman Seibol, ,
to authorize the addition of a Senior Engineer Technician position
to the Engineering Department allocated to pay range 'a -2C, Motipn
tarri gd, four ayes. %yor Hi 1 de was absent from the room dura ng'
discussion and vote on this item.) II
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At the meeting of April 16 the Council accepted the Preliminary PROJECT )NO* 301 - XENIUM
Report on this project and requested further information from LANE b 15TH AVENUE NORTH
the Enginer'r on several1tems,\r The Engineer presented his re- PRELIMINARY REPORT
port 173429 to the Council 1n response to this request, It was'
his recommendation that the portion of watermain on 15th Avenue'
from kneview to the East side of the railroad tracks b*. droppefl
from consideration at this time. After discussion regarding th
need for this portion of watermain, the Council concurred with
the Engimeer's recommendation,
MOTION was made by Councilman Hunt, seconded by Councilman Seibold,
accepting the,Engineer's report 173-129, Motion carried, five ayes.
At the April 16 meeting the Council discussed the proposed divi-
sion of lot 1, Lake Park Acres, requested by Mrs. Kranz and
directed the staff to contact the petitioner relative to the
sewer extension, The petitioner indicated to the staff that i r
prospective buyer of the southern part of her lot is agreeable
to having the sewer extended, Watermaln it presently extended
to Quaker lane. Staff indicated the sewer could be extended to
Quaker to serve all the lots on the north side of the street and
possibly 2 or 3 lots on the south side.
MOTION was made by Councilman Hunt, seconded by Councilman
Spaeth, to adopt RESOLUTION NO, 73-158, A RESOLUTION ORDERING
THE PREPARATION OF A REPORT ON THE CONSTRUCTION OF SANITARY
SEWER MAINS AND STREET RESTORATION"FOR 28TH AVENUE NORTH BE%
TWEEN QUAKER LANE AND APPROXIMATELY 190 FEET EAST OR ORLEANS
LANE. Motion carried on a Roll Call vote, five ayes.
The Engineer indicated they would attempt to get the report to
the Council by the next meeting so that a hearing could be )rder-
ed. He,stated that when the underground work is done it might
be possible for Alexander Construction Company to include this
street with hl,acktopping work they are doing in the area, Coun-
cilman ;Lunt stated he would be hesitant of approving a black-
topping improvement in view of the fact that the Village dces
not have total right of way requirements on this street.
MOTION was made by Councilman Hunt, seconded by %uncilmen
Spaeth, to adopt RESOLUTION NO. 73-159(A), A RESOLUTION APPROV-
ING THE DIVISION OF LOT 1, LAKE PARK ACRES, INTO TWO LOTS AS
REQUESTED BY ORPNA KRANZ; a:.d to adopt RESOLUTION N0, 73. 59(B),
A RESOLUTION ORDERING THAT RESOLUTION NO, 73-159(A) NOT BE FILED
WITH THE COUNTY'UNTIL THE SEWER IMPROVEMENT PROJECT IS ORDERED,
Motion carried on a Roll Call vote, five ayes,
ORPHA KRANZ DIVISION
OF PLATTED LOT
RESOLUTION NO. 73458
RESOLUTION NO, 73-159(81
RESOLUTION N0, 73-159(8)
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When the Final Plat and Development Cc'vktract of Williams Woods WILLIAMS WOODS - REVISION,`'
were approved by the Council on April` i there was a quistien \ TO DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT
raised about the amocnt of right of way' that might be required
for Kimberly lane. The original plan indicated a 32 foot wide',;
street, and)it was the engineer's recommendation that this could
be reduced .tb 20 feet. There, was discussion regarding ;
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location of the cul -de -sec. The Engineer indicated he;felt they
plan as proposed showing a "T'\ turnaround was the best 'approach. ,
MOTION was made by Counci1man,4eibold, seconded by Cour;cilinen RESOLUTION N0. 73=160
Neils, to adopt RESOLUTION N0. 714$66 A RESOLUTION AME;NQING
THE DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT FOR WILLIAMS'WOODS TPAA REDUC
TION`'IN THE STREET WIDTH FOR KIMBERLY LANE FROM 32 FEET TQ,20
FEET,, Notion carried on a Roll Call vote, five -ayes.
This matter was deferred until the Special Council Meeting of POLICY ON USE OF PARK;
April 30, 1"73. DEDICATION FUNDS
This matter was deferred until the Special Council Meeting of PROPOSED ACQUISITION OF
April 30, 1973. LOT 1, BLOCK 2, RATH'S
2ND ADDITION FOR PARK USE
The Planning Commission joined the Council for a joint review LAND USE GUIDE PLAN
of the 13 changes the Planning Commission has recommended be
made to the Land Use Guide Plan which they recommended -for
adoption of March 7, 1973. Present from the Planning Ciumission
were Commissioners Kroskin, Chapman, Erickson, Hagen, Threinen
and Johnson.
Mayor Hileeaddressed the Planning Commission expressing to them the Council's appreciation
for the expellent job they have one on this Guide Plan. He stated it is gratifying that
we have citizens who are both willing to do a job such as this and have the capabilities
for the job.
Planner Overhiser displayed the Guide Plan map which was held up for public hearings by
the Planning Commission and the revised map which the Pluning Commission has recommended
to the Council for adoption. For purposes of review, thy! Village was divided into four
quadrants and t6ie changes in each discussed.
SOUTHWEST QUADRANT (South of Highway 55 and West of 1 494)
Thea were no changes recommended in this area.
NORTHWEST QUADRANT (North of Highway 55 and West of 1.494)
Chane 01 - Soo Line Industrial Area: Area north of proposed industrial area be shown
n an Enm category and the area ea$t of the west line of Section 8 extended to County
Road 9 be changed from IP Planned Industrial to LA4 Low Medium Density Residential.
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The Planning Conmissioners explained this change was made because it was felt
there'should be some blend between the residential area to the north and the
industrial area and because of the topography of the ares: T.e question was
raised whether consideration was given to deleting the altea north of the tracks
from the industrial. It was explained that while this area is heavily wooded
and would be expensive to develop. the change in guiding was not made because
of the railroad access that would be provided on both sides of the tracks.
Change 92 = Fernbrook and County Road 9: The area northeast of County Road,9 and
7 orn brook Lane be shown as LA -3.
There were residents from,t"e area'at the public hearings who objected to the
p lofted industrial right.up to Fernbrook. The Northwestern Bell site to the
east does not extend to\, he corners and it was felt this LA -3 strip would bt a
buffer between the resid1}ntial and industrial, Guiding it residential would
also avoid opening up Wt corner for a gas station or other such use.
NORTHEAST QUADRANT 'th of County Road 9 and East of I-494)
Chan e 03 - Bass _.,axe Area: The area on the northwest corner of Bass Lake be changed
from—CAS to LA -1.
Change 04 - Bass Lake Area: The area of LA -3 between the proposed trail and the prom
posed LAw2area southwest of County Road 47 and Pineview Lane be changed from LA=3 to
LV2.
This down -grading of density was brought about largely by concern expressed by,
residents 1n the area. Mayor Hilde questioned whether this was good planning.
and Commissioner Hagen replied that the development around the lake so far has
been quite good and the Planning Commission did not see any reason to interrupt
this type of development.
Chane N10 - County Roads 10 and 18: That the neighborhood shopping center be located
on the north side near the proposed trail. LA -2 shown up to County Road 10 southeast of
County Road 10 and Zachary, that the highway service be shown northwest of 10 and 18s
that the limited business area be shown on the western side of the neighborhood shopping
area proposed north of County Road 100 that the former neighborhood shopping area and
limited business area be shown as LA -3 and that the trails be altered as noted on the
work map.
The Plainer indicated this 1a one change the staff does not agree with. He stated
he felt the first version was the better plan locating the neighborhood shopping
center A4o the south of County Road 10, The Planning Commissioners explained that
it w:#. their feeling that there is some beautiful land to the south of County Road
10 and that the topography of that area would create a natural buffer between the
industrial to the east along the frontage road and the residential to the west.
They felt the retail area should be moved to the north of County Road 10 where
they could better take care of the bad soil conditions. The proposed change would
be in conflict with the Walton Ford petition. and the question was raised what
environmental impact there would be if he were allowed to proceed as he has prow
posed. It was pointed out that extensive grading would be done and the top of the
hill taken down. Councilman Neils pointed out that the County Highway Department
has determined that some of this hill will have to be cut down because of the
steep grade down to County Road IS.
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SOUTHEAST QUADRANT (South of County Road 9 and East of I494)
Change #5 - Mission Farms: Area south of 36th Avenue should be shown as LA4. not as
The Planner explained that most of this area is developed as single family now.
therefore. the change to LA -1.
Change 46 - Mission Farms: Area west of,Medicine lake at about 31st Avenue shown as
ILAmi should be altered as shown on the work map.
Change #7 - Creekwobd Heights -Area: The LA -4 on both sides of proposed County Road 61
Weeen Xenium and West Medicine lake be'changed to LA -1 south;of County Road 61 and
LA -2 north',of County Road 61.
Chan 08 - Creekwood Heights Area: The,LA-2 area south, -of 26th Avenue and west of
nev ew Lane should be changed to LA -1.''
Chane #9 - Creekwood Heights Area: That the Planned Industrial northeast of 55 and;
u.ure ounty Road 61 be shown as LA -2.
The Planner explained this is quite a divergence from the Central Area Plan. Den-
si y has been down -graded. and the Munsingwear industrial site has been changed
back to LA -1. At the public hearings a number of residents from the Creekwood
Heights area complained in general terms about the density around their area. They
had no objections specifically to the Munsingwear area, but when the Planning Com-
mission toured the area 1t looked like a. natural for residential assuming -55 as
the buffer to the south between industrial and residential. Commissioner Chapman
pointed out that the Munsingwear site was rezoned along with a specific site plan.
and because this development has not taken place he could see no reason why the
Villsge couldn't change it back to its original zonlnq. Mayor Hilde advised that
a decision regarding this property will be forthcoming this Fall and stated that
at this point he would not be inclined to make a change-.
Councilman Spaeth asked what the over-all effect of these changes will have on the
population projections. There were no specific, figgures available, but the Planning
Commission felt the additions and deletions of residential would balance out.
The Commissioners were questioned what study had been given to the terrain in this
area in view of the fact that much land is guided LA -1. It was explained that it
is hoped that it will encourage good planned development and that proposed County
Road 61 would provide a good buffer for the LAw2 to the north.
The Commissioners were asked to elaborate on their discussions regarding the prop-
erty south of Creekwood Neights which was recommended to be changed from LA -2 to
LA -1. The Planner indicated this land is entirely under one ownership and expected
this would be a planned project with density going down to single family as develop-
ed to the northeast corner of the site. Commissioner Chapman pointed out that the
residents of Creekwood Hei4hts approved a site plan proposed by MIP and that the
Guide Plan is Identical to that plan.
There was discussion regarding the LA4 area between the creek and 55. Commissioner
Hagen stated he felt it questionable that a single family development could be plac-
ed there because of the traffic on 55. Commissioner Threinen explained the Planning
Commission came # long way on meeting many of the objections of the residents to the
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previous plan and stated he felt the present plan was sound planning on an over-
all view. It is buffered by natural barriers and a proposed thoroughfare. Cam-
missioner Kroskin'stated he did not agree with the high density in this LA4 area
and believed a limited business use could be as acceptable to the residents and
pointed out that a use such as this would create much less traffic. Commissioner
Threinen stated he would be,opposed to a shopping center or related use in this
area,for it would be opposed to our neighborhood concept because of its close-
ness to the other shopping center on the south side of the highway. He expected
residents would view this as an encroachment, but that the residential as pro -i
posed would be a blending and not an encroachment. Councilman Hunt suggested
that if the Planner investigates what the Highway Department is doing with regard
to buffering noise pollution he will find that you cannot build residential there
anyway. In view of the differences of opinion in this area, the Mayor suggested
it might be well to leave it the way it is.
Change 011 - Schiebe/Humphrey Area: That LA -1 be shown north of the Honeywell property
and south of Ives Lane.,
Chane 012 - Schiebe/Humphrey Area: That limited business be shown between Honeywell
anCo nwood Lane rather than LA -3.
Change 013 - Future County Roads 15 and 61: That the highway service business area
propcsed at the northeast corner of County Road 15 and I494 be shown at the northwest
corner of future County Roads 15 and 61, and that industrial be shown at the northeast
corner of 15 and I494.
The Planner reviewed the changes proposed by the owners of this land (see EXHIBIT A
of Attachment C in the Public Hearing Transcript) and the Cosnnission's discussions
which lead to the above changes which were made. He indicated that the Planning
Commission voted 3-0-2 with regard to these changes. Councilman Neils questioned
how much of this decision making was influenced by the present zoning of the
Honeywell property. The Planner stated he felt residential could be developed
there and be compatible with the Honeywell development because the site is natu-
rally buffered from Highway 55., Commissioner Kroskin explained the Planning Comm
mission's thinking with regard to the limited business area. With proposed County
Road 15 to the south. Honeywell to the west, Highway 55 to the north and basically
a neighborhood shopping center area to the east, they felt that the uses permitted
in the limited business district would be most compatible. He also pointed out
that access to Highway 55 is limited tj the intersection of 55 and County Road 15.
There was also discussion regarding the difficult topography in this area.
There was discussion regarding the arguments developers have put to the Village in the
past regarding the necessity of placing high density developments on marginal land. It
was concluded with the PUD concept which can now be utilized and the criteria adopted by
the Village which prohibits a developer from altering the natural character of the land
and requires him to retain drainage and ponding areas, etc.. these old arguments do not
apply today.
Commissioner Chapman reported he had visited Mr. Elwell's property in the extreme south-
western corner of the Village and suggested that some consideration might be given to
Mr. Elwell's request for a LA -2 designation as a development of this type might preserve
the site more than single family.
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Mayor Htlde questioned the Planning Commissioners whether they had found t. way of separating
the spe/culators from the bonafide developers. The Commissioners stated that approving site
plans helps but that tying the developer to a time -table for development"of that property
would be very helpful 1n this area,
Planner Overhiser advised that the staff is presently working on revisions to the Zoning
Ordinance. He stated his thinking that, if we have property that ties into a capital im-
provement program, isn't it logical to say that if we are going to extend sewer and water
why don't you also go ahead and rezone that property on your own mot!on so that the develop-
ers know what the Village wants to see used on that land and can concentrate more on plan-
ping than the problems associated with rezoning, Councilun Hunt stated he felt this would
be extremely difficult to accomplish as guide plan lines are flexible and rezoning lines
are not. He stated he could particularly see problems in areas where land is not under
single ownership.
The Manager reviewed the status of negotiations between the LOCAL 49 CONTRACT
Village and local 49 and explained the problems they are facing NEGOTIATIONS
at the present time. He asked for direction from the Countil
specifically on a severance pay program and dues check -off,
payor Hilde adjourned the meeting at 11:00 p.m.
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Sandra L. Ndugen
Village Clerk
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