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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity Council Minutes 10-24-1972 Specialc„ IiI NOTES SPECIAL MINCIL MEETING OCTOBER 24. 1972 A4peciat meeting of the Plymouth Village Council was called to order by Nayor Hilde at 1:40O p.m. ,i n the Council Cha6ers of the Publ , c kirks Buil ding, 1Twenty-thi rd Avenue North, PlAputh, on October 24, 1972. PRESENT s kyor Ni lde, Councilmen Hunt, *aeth and Rei `s (arrived at 8:00 p.m.). Nanog#r Willis, Engineer Rudrud and Plani,,er Overhiser 10SENT: Councilman Seibold ' 1 NOTION was made by Councilman Hrnt, seconded bar Councilman Spaeth, RESOLUTION N0. 72.413 to ado?t RESOLUTION NO. 72.413, A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE PETI• JOHN A. Y'NGVE TIONER S PROPOSED REGISTERED LAND SURVEY OF EXISTING TRACT 8', REGISTERED LAND SURVEY R.I.S. /775, SUBJECT TO THE FIVE CONDITIONS REFERRED TO IN THE STAFF REPORT DATED OCTOBER 24. 1972. Notion carried on a Roll Call vote, three dyes. The Council reviewed the staff's proposed schedule leaoing to the COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE adoption of the Comprehensive Guide Plan. It was agreed to deet GUIDE PLAN SCHEDULE with the Planning Commission at the regularly scheduled Plannirg Item 1 Commission meetip 9 nights of November Is 197 and if necessary November I.K. 1972 to revtew the Guide Flan prior to the public hearings., The Council reviewed three drafts of the proposed sidewalk and SIDEWALK AND TRAIL trail system policy, the first prepared by the staff, the second SYSTEM POLICY reviseO by the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission and Trails Item 2 Comm ttee s and the third with the revisions %aade by the Planning Comrfssion, The Council discussed the three different types of sidewalks or trails needed iA the Village: 1. Sidewalks for safety purposes 2. Trails primarily for recreational purposes 3. A combination of 1 and 2 above It waF felt the primary obstacles facing such plans were: 1. Now to finance the building of such trails and sidewalks 2. Snow removal and awintenance 3. The intrusion on adjoining property owners of such trails and sidewalks 3 C, Special Cout cl1,1--Meeting October 244 19Jz Page Two It was agreed thdt generl ad valorem is probably not the answer to the financing. Coun- cilman Spaeth sugttested that if sivevalks were put in along with the street the Village wuuld probablyy pay fir a portion of it out of ad va loren but wondereo if it would not be more reasonable to,/ property owners one-half mile back In the same mannei as major thoroughfares. Cau%ycilman hunt agreed slut pointed out that the expense of spreading the rolls might be/too fneat if street improvements were not put in at the same time. In the case of Highways ,101 and 6. upgrading this intersection to ultimate design now would take care of the saf0y problems in that area. It was suggested that projects should be planned on a nelghborhjod basis and that the elementary schools make good focal points for such planning. There, was discussion retirding whether or not bicycles sho`ald be allowed on sidewalks. It was pointed out that t would be simpler construction and an easier maintenance prob lee to widen roads for bioycle use. Council"n Neils stated he did not think this was the anvir because of the 'high traffic speeds on thoroughfares where sidewalks are needed for the protection of bicycleri. The Council agreed that pedestrian and bicycle traffic should be removed from the Jvoreugh1are. and there followed discussion regarding the design standards for these sidewalks. It was felt that d to 5 foot uldewalks would be adequate with possibly an additional bicycle trail to areas where 6sage would justify it. The Council also agreed that ti)e trail policy should not make reference to the financing of the sidewalks and trails and that a separate policy should be drafted for this purpose. It was pointed out 'that the two k%jor school districts in Plymouth have different policies with regard to transporting children to school.. It was suggested that the possible dei velopment of school walks be discussed with the Wayzata School district with reference to their bussing policy. The Council agreed to use draft #2 4f the proposed sidewalk and trail policy which was approved by the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission and Trail Committee deleting reference to financing in paragraphs 1. 2 and 4. Paragraph 1 was also charged to read Construct as part of the permanent street sidewalks sling the de of major and local thoroughfares . . It MOTION was made by Councilman Hunt: seconded by Council;nan Spaeth, to adopt RESOLUTION N0. 724148 A RESOLUTION ADOPTING DRAFT 02 OF THE PROPOSED SIDEWALK AND TRAIL POLICY WITH THE ABOVE CHANGES (SEE ATTACHED "EXHIBIT A") AND DIRECTING THE STAFF :C -PROCEED WIT14 THE DEVELOPMENT OF A FINANCING POLICY FOR SIDEWALKS AND TRAILS IN THE VIL!.AGE. Motion carried on a Roll Call vote. four ayes. The Conc11 reviewed the minutes of the snowmobile hearing held FebrualolY 29, 1972. It was generally felt that the reaction to the hearing was not of such a nature to warrant major changes in the ordinancd,, It was felt, however, that it, should be reviewed from time to tt e. The Manager stated that the only comments made by the Police Chief with regard to changes in the ordinance were thhat the Council 01gh; want to consider restricting snowmobiles from Village streets, RESOLUTION N0. 72414 SNOMBILE ORDIKANCE Item 3 0 al Council Nesting or 24 Three• 1972 \ Snowmobile club memieers who appaare` over thkproblems that exist and in Council elt it would be advantageous interested\1Qarties. It was the recom not r+de with, our officers or be empo Ings wiih copied of these tickets rec at thW\'\public hearing in February expressed concern cated a \wi l l i"ess to do some patrol work, and the to the\Yillage co pursue this further with those oWjdatij of the Police Department that these patrols weivdto fake legal act -Ion but rather hand out warn- ordvd wi the Village Police Department., NOTION was made by Councilman hunt, secondo j by outline a procedure policy for a program of nfa in Maple Grove which would be coordinated wi h t should be amphasized to the siiambile clubs ha encourage them to follow through with this plan\,, mobs l ers do not , control the snowmobile problem for them, and we do not want to see the snow abi es ncilwan Spaeth, directing the stafty ft 1 e4forceiment s s0er to that fractfted Village Police Department, and that it roblems do exist and the Village would Iofthepossibilitythatifsnow= ves the government wi l 1 control 1 damaged. Motion carried, four The Manager outlined the status of 09 various i0p r\iment projects and the expected completions th1 s' ,par. Councilman Hun, recommended that the` Council renside,,a ,deep base design on all street projects in the future, and tht;oui cil agreed this was an area that.should be investigated. t The Council reviewed the status of the. 1972 Administrative Projects and a few of the items that should be included in the 4evelopik)pnt of next year's priorities. Mayor Hi lde stated he fAl t one of the top priority items for next year is to provide better services to our citizens and businessmen and do a better job of comlgnicating because of the fact that so much of the work of the Council and staff over the past five years has been behind -the -,Scenes basic planning and policy making which our citizens are not alw4ys aware of, FollowiAg a discussion of the outstanding !tems on the pro'ect list, the Council indicated they would further consider items not completed as part of the 1973 administrative project goals. Sandra L. Pau Village Clerk i ENGINEERING PROJECTS STATUS REMIRT item 4 1972 AWINI,STRATIVEi PROJECTS STATUS REPbRT It" 5 1 at thW\'\public hearing in February expressed concern cated a \wi l l i"ess to do some patrol work, and the to the\Yillage co pursue this further with those oWjdatij of the Police Department that these patrols weivdto fake legal act -Ion but rather hand out warn- ordvd wi the Village Police Department., NOTION was made by Councilman hunt, secondo j by outline a procedure policy for a program of nfa in Maple Grove which would be coordinated wi h t should be amphasized to the siiambile clubs ha encourage them to follow through with this plan\,, mobs l ers do not , control the snowmobile problem for them, and we do not want to see the snow abi es ncilwan Spaeth, directing the stafty ft 1 e4forceiment s s0er to that fractfted Village Police Department, and that it roblems do exist and the Village would Iofthepossibilitythatifsnow= ves the government wi l 1 control 1 damaged. Motion carried, four The Manager outlined the status of 09 various i0p r\iment projects and the expected completions th1 s' ,par. Councilman Hun, recommended that the` Council renside,,a ,deep base design on all street projects in the future, and tht;oui cil agreed this was an area that.should be investigated. t The Council reviewed the status of the. 1972 Administrative Projects and a few of the items that should be included in the 4evelopik)pnt of next year's priorities. Mayor Hi lde stated he fAl t one of the top priority items for next year is to provide better services to our citizens and businessmen and do a better job of comlgnicating because of the fact that so much of the work of the Council and staff over the past five years has been behind -the -,Scenes basic planning and policy making which our citizens are not alw4ys aware of, FollowiAg a discussion of the outstanding !tems on the pro'ect list, the Council indicated they would further consider items not completed as part of the 1973 administrative project goals. Sandra L. Pau Village Clerk i ENGINEERING PROJECTS STATUS REMIRT item 4 1972 AWINI,STRATIVEi PROJECTS STATUS REPbRT It" 5 I LEXHIBITA SIDEWALK $ TRAIL POLICY 1. Construct as part of ';sup pertranent Axtreet sidewalks a loq the "side" of major and INdi thoroughfares and cohoolwalks along at Ieest one side of designated school walkways when:. a. The establishment of such a sidewalk will not be ontrary to i public safetye b. The cost of establishing such!a sidewalk' will not be excess- Ively disproportionate to the need or probable use. c. 4ers,lt;• of population, other oval !able nays, or other factors Indicate the need for such sidewalks or trails. 2; Construct to Village Standards trails as designated on t0oe adopted Vi1idge Comprehensive Lana Use G.ulde Plan, On streets not desig,»ted as a thoroughfare, schoolwalk. jr trail, consider span request of property owners the construction of sideitalks atong resl- dential streets during or after permanent street construftlon or wl on the permanent street grade has been established !V the Villlige Engineer, The cost shall be paid by or assessed to the benefited properties wttK the sma I est project to consist of a s is dtwa l k o:a arae side of a :jtreot 15e-tween two Intersecting streets, 4. Require the construction cf sidgwalka or trails In,new developments when it Is determined that such Improvepents Irl I 1 be rdgi: i rad l y , pedestr laps us l ng. working in, or living in the dgvelopmint. If,#ne required improvement is necessary for the completion o a pei-tion o; The Land UsP Guide Plan or school walk sy .tam. then t, a value of 'the l mpro ement shall be cred l ted against +tie doveloper's raculred park donation. The above PoI'Icy will require that the following Items be completed and maintained before it can be fully Implemented: o'rhorough f are Gut pie Plan Land Use Guide Plan achooI Walk System Policy Veslgrn and Constructlor ata+idards 1 11 for Sidewalks and Trails Adopteid by thea V i I Digo Counc i 1 fktober 24, 197