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RFULAR COUNCIL MEETING
PLYMOUTH, MINNESOTA
June 5, 1972
R regular meeting of the Plymouth. Village Council vias called t3 order by
Mayor Hilae dt 7:46 p.m. on June 5, 1972.
PRESENT: Mayor Hilde, Counc4lroen Hunt, Ivcils, Seibold and Spaeth, Manager
Willis, Attorney Lefler, Engineer Rudrud, Planner Overhiser, 4 d
Consulting Engineer's Bonestroo apd Cook.
ABSENT: None
PUBEIC RAKING
Pike Lake Terrace and Morrison Lakeview Additions
Street Lighting, Project No. 221
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Manager Willis stated that the pL rpose of "`he meeting 1; to give citizen; in
opportunity to h3ve their views }leard. Notice of the nearing was h,an'dl ad as
follows:
1. Properties to be benefited by this project were notified by mai 1 , usi r-ig
the addresses and names on record in ti:e County Auditor's office.
1. An official ,notice appeared in the k'uyzata-Plymouth-Minnetonka Sun,
The Staff had recommended the placement of eight lights: Se ren 175 -watt and
one 2:a -watt. The Wright -Hennepin Co-op stated that in order to place three
O f the 175 -watt lights it wo'!d require the extension of some overhead wins
wh,th would present an immediate problem with respect to easements. the
o.iti- lights could hE serv-iced reedily from existing Gower sources. The cos
fcr a 1'15 -watt mercury vapor lam? is $51 per year and $60 per ye..,'. --for a 250
kiatt, with an approyimate cost per lot n` $6.75 per year.
If 0-t: C))unci l were to o. k, the project, the StA ff would be instructed to
proceed ':o notify the electric company to install the lights. Thei eaftei- ev-
ery year in the fall, the Village Council would rons4der the costs that have
been incurred with respect to that s;stsm, would make special assessment
levies en each parcel within the area, which would appear on the annual tax
statements. There would 5e e, public hearing every year for i oht i ng improve
ment assessments. The cost could vary depending on whether the plan was
increased, decreased or the assessment area way deLreased. -
Jiin son 5970 hemlock lane: His only concern was the cost of lighting%
He wanted to now if it would tay at $6.75. Mayor Hilde stated that the
Village does not have any control over it. They only past:, along the charges
of the electric company.
Ter r, KilianHemlock: She states that a couple of years aco they hada5960
peT a oveaT" po es, and wakited to know if they would be getting th c'..
poles beck for the lighting project. Manager Willis stated that the
linesLproposedonHemlockareattheintersectionsof60thand61stwheretherear
dxisting poles. Also, there we uld bF-% 1 ights at:
The southeast side of the intersection at 51st and Goldenrod.
2. The s, uth side of the intersection at 60th and Soldeorod. v
3 The end of 61st ut Goldenrod where there would b4 two poles.
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Ernie Bauer, 3670 Sixt -first Avenue: Wanted to know how many lights would
e on 61st. Manager Willis stated tat three are proposed Q,n ''61st at Hem-
lock. Goldenrod and the cul-de-sac at the bbt\tom of the hill; and these I
would require some utilities. i
Mayor Hilde closed the public hearing at 7:59 p.m.
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MOTION was made by Councilman Hutt. seconded by Councilman Neils to,adopt
RESOLUTION NO. A RESOLUTION APPROVING
PROZECT N0,,
72-190,
221 TO INSTALL EIGHT LIGHTS IN RESOLUTION
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PIKE LAKE TERRACE AND MORRISON LAKEVIEW ADDI- Pike Lake Terrace ilMarrison
TIONS, as per Staff recommendation. Motion Lakeview Additions,
cararied, five ayes.,, S.treet Lighting A , roved
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MOTION was made by Councilman Seibold, seconded by Councilman Hunt, to approve
the minutes of M,y 15, 1972 with thefollowing amendments :
Page 6, Paragraph 6: Councilman Spaeth requested that this motion be
changed to read that it was the third -item of the
main motion.
Motion carried • Mavor, Hi 1de iabsi:l i ned four ayes
MOTION was made by to ndi 1 man Nei 1 s, seconded
the minutes of May 212, 1972. Motion carried:
three ayes.
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Preliminary Plat (A-378)
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by Cout:ci lman, Hunt, to ahpro +A
Councilman Spaeth abstained;
MOTION was made by Cou 1ci lman Hunt, seconded by Councilman Neils, to adopt
RESOLUTION N0. 72-1911 A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AS SUBMIT-
TED BY ROGER L. JOHNSPN SUBJECT TO TWO CONDITIONS:
1. A a+ARIANCE BE GRANTED To ALLOW THE EXISTING HOUSES IMPROPER SETBACK FROM
FUTURE STATE HIGHWAY 101 RIGHT-OF-WAY TO EXIST.
2. THE FINAL PLAT AAD DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT APPROVAL NOT BE CONSIDERED BY THE
VILLAGE COUNCIL UNTIL PUBIC SANITARY SEWERS ARE AVAILABLE.
MOTION was made by Councilman Neils. seconded by Councilman Spaeth, to amend
RESOLUTION NO. 72-191 with two additional conditions:
3. NORTH OF 33RD AVEIIUE NORTH ON QUEENSLAND LANE ADJUST STREET 5' TO THt
WEST TO PROVIDE MINIMUM 160" DEPTH FOR DOUBLE FRONTAGE LOTS, IN ACCORD-
ANCE WITH THE SUBDIVISION REGULATION.
4. PARK DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS ARE TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT ,IN THE DEVELOP-
MENT CONTRACT.
Amendment to the main motion cart%ied: Roll RESKUTTOR NO, 72w19I
call - four eyes with Councilman Hunt voting Approval of Roger L. Johnson
halo Main motion, as amendeO, carried: Roll Preliminary Plat (A-378) with
call - five ayes. four conditions, _
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MOTION was made by Councilman Neils, seconded bylCouncilman Spaeth, that the
Staff prepare a resolution for denial of the rezoning petitions. Mayon,
Hilda ;pointed out that the petitioner would have to start all over again,
with public hearings, etc., which would be,,unfair to a developer. Motion
failed: Roll call - four nays with Councilman Neils voting aye.
Mayor Hilde queried the Council on reconsidering realigning Medina Road to
32nd. All agreed to open this matter for disclission. Councilman Seibold
stated that 800' for a grade separation ramp between 32nd and Highway 55 was
not enough room. The Councilmen, who had voted against aligning Medina Road
to 32nd previously did not change their vote, so it was agreed that align-
ment would stay at 31st.
MOTION was made by Councilman Neils, seconded by Counr,ilman Spaeth, defer
a rezoning decision and advised the developer of the conditions that their
rezoning would be subject toIfor reconsideration by the Cquncil:
1, That the best use of the area between Mapledell and the drainage course
lying east and north of Mapledell is considered to be R-1 single family.
2, That the area between the drainage course and Vicksburg Lane lying south
of 31st could be developed at a net density not to exceed four units per
acre after satisfaction of dedication requirement% for park and street
right-of-way.
3. That the area lying north of Medina, south of 32nd, east of the drainage
area, and west of Vicksburg could be developed at net density not to ex-
ceed siA units per acre.
4. Th'st due consideration, persuant to park dedication requirements will be
given to reserving the draina%;c cc%ulrse and ponding areas for public use.
5, Th,At B-1 or I-1 are suitable uses for the :rea north of 32nd Avenue.
MOTION leas made by Councilman Spaeth, seconded by Councilmao Neils, to add
one more ,condition:
6. Council would consider variances as to the types of buildings in the re-
sidential areas.
Motion carried, all ayes.
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PLAYHOUSE
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Rezoning `Request from R-0 to- R-1,_ R-3, R-4 and I-1
A-350 and A-1.94)
Item 6.A.
Manager Willis, stated that the Planning Commission has' recommended ,that the
request for rezoning be denied. Delos gested that this b.a consid- Taylor sPayhoulieeredastvfoseparatezoningrequests: One for Cbmpany; ore for
himself. Manager Will,;s stated that the requests have been handled concur-
rently.
Planner Overhiser discussed with the Council the history of the rezoning;re-
quest for this property. He stated that the Planning Commission wanted the_
proposed Medina Road moved from 31st Avenue North all nment to 32nd, and .the
area north of Medina Road would be Business District ?B-1) for office build-
i;ngs. Mayor Hilda pointed out that the Council had p'reviously,made the de=
cision to leave Medina Road at 31st-.
MOTION was made by Councilman Neils, seconded bylCouncilman Spaeth, that the
Staff prepare a resolution for denial of the rezoning petitions. Mayon,
Hilda ;pointed out that the petitioner would have to start all over again,
with public hearings, etc., which would be,,unfair to a developer. Motion
failed: Roll call - four nays with Councilman Neils voting aye.
Mayor Hilde queried the Council on reconsidering realigning Medina Road to
32nd. All agreed to open this matter for disclission. Councilman Seibold
stated that 800' for a grade separation ramp between 32nd and Highway 55 was
not enough room. The Councilmen, who had voted against aligning Medina Road
to 32nd previously did not change their vote, so it was agreed that align-
ment would stay at 31st.
MOTION was made by Councilman Neils, seconded by Counr,ilman Spaeth, defer
a rezoning decision and advised the developer of the conditions that their
rezoning would be subject toIfor reconsideration by the Cquncil:
1, That the best use of the area between Mapledell and the drainage course
lying east and north of Mapledell is considered to be R-1 single family.
2, That the area between the drainage course and Vicksburg Lane lying south
of 31st could be developed at a net density not to exceed four units per
acre after satisfaction of dedication requirement% for park and street
right-of-way.
3. That the area lying north of Medina, south of 32nd, east of the drainage
area, and west of Vicksburg could be developed at net density not to ex-
ceed siA units per acre.
4. Th'st due consideration, persuant to park dedication requirements will be
given to reserving the draina%;c cc%ulrse and ponding areas for public use.
5, Th,At B-1 or I-1 are suitable uses for the :rea north of 32nd Avenue.
MOTION leas made by Councilman Spaeth, seconded by Councilmao Neils, to add
one more ,condition:
6. Council would consider variances as to the types of buildings in the re-
sidential areas.
Motion carried, all ayes.
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ELMAR BUILD_E.,RS, ING,
Items 6.C., 6.01., amid 6,.E,.
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Mayor Hilde advised that these items have been withdrawn from the.agen'da by
the Staff pending further work.
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IItem „6 . G,.
Manages Willis advised 'that this item has been withdrawn from the agenda and
will be sent back to. -the' Planning Commission.
iter Plan and Conditional Use Permit (A-394)
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NVION was made by Councilman Hunt, seconded by Councilman Spaeth, to apprdvt
the site plan of Quade Company and the conditions! 6se permit for the estah-
lashment of a sheet metal fabrication use with a variance granted to elimi-
nate`16 parking spares,
Councilman Neils stated that the Council has tried to adhere to a policy, of
limiting driveway accesses on to thoroughfares This property abuts 23rd
Avenue and the site plan has two driveways on Niagara, Mayor Hilde indicated
that it 'ould be preferable for driveways to have access on to ?3rd.
Donald Green, spokesman For Quade Company, stated that the tuilding faces
Niagara and they palnned to have the entrance at the front of the building.
He stated that their pians are to have an addition to the north te'ward' 23rd,
with the possibility of a parking lot near 23rd. Councilman Spaeth sugges-
ted that Mr. Green could reverse his site plan so that the building would
face 23rd,
A discussion followed regardinIg the extension of the sanitary sewers and
Engineer Rudrud stated it would have to be at the developet%'s *expe,nse,
MOTION was made by Councilman Neils to amend the main motion,to ge nt the\"
Conditional Use Permit as proposed, but refer the matter to Staff to"level
op with the petitioner a site plan providing access and utility servico
from 23rd Avenue. Amendment to the motion failed, no second,
Main motion failed. Roll Call - five nays,
MOTION was made'by "ouncilman Spaeth, seconded by Councilman Hunt, that the
developer attempt to reorient the building to 23rd; and, if not possible,
no more than one driveway be allowed on to Niagara Lane, Motion passed,
five ayes.
Mayor Hilde directed planner Overhiser to have the Planning Commission take
accesses to major and local thoroughfares into account on future petitions,
After the meeting, it was noted that Niagara Lane is a collector street
with parkway.)
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RO CORKRATION
ubdivisibn Variance (A-392)
MOTION was°made by Councilman Seibold, seconded by Councilman Hunt, to adopt
RESOLUTION NO. 72-1920 A RESOLUTION APPROVING SUBDIVISION VARIANCE,TO DIVIDE
LAND INTO TWO PARCELS, SAID LAND BEING PURCHASED FROM, -NORTHWEST RAILROAD COM
ANY BY dRO CORPORATION, -as per Staff recommendation.
MOTION was made by Counci +mar. Neils, seconded
by Councilman Spaeth, to amend RESOLUTION NO,, RESOLUTION NO. 72-192
72-10, 1: '"SUBJECT TO STANDARD UTILITY EASE- Approval of Subdivision Vari-
MENTS PARALLELING LOT LINES. Amendment to" ance for GRO Corporation sub -
motion passed, five ayes. Main motion passes: Ject to standard' utility
Roll Call - five ayes. easements.
STORM SEWER AGREEMENT
State Highway 101 and County Road 6
Item 6.I.
MOTION was made by Councilman Neils, seconded by Councilman Spaeth, to adop
RESOLUTION N0, 72-1969 A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE STORM'SEWER AGREEMENT BE
TNEEN CONTINENTAL COA TRACTORS, KENNETH SHIEBE
AND SUPER VALU, as per Staff recommendation. RESOLUTION NO. 72-19
Motion carried: Roil Call - five ayes, Approval of Storm SewerlAoreement,
inal Plat, Development Contract and Apartment
roject Site Plan (A-283 and A-231)
Item 6.J.
MOTION wa-s made by Councilman Seibold, seconded by Councilman Hunt, to adopt
RESOLUTION NO. 72-193, A REIILUTION APPROVING THE FINAL PLAT as erSt, ta_
recommendation, Motion carried, four ayes -,1
with Councilman Spaeth voting nay. Approval of "
Finale
Plat" `
MOTION was made by Councilman Hunt, seconded by Councilman Seibold, to adopt
RESOLUTION N0, 72-194, A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT SUB-
JECT TO THREE CONDITIONS:
1, UTILITY CONSTRUCTION AMENDMENTS TO THE CONTRACT BE MADE WHEREBY THE DE-
VELOPER IS TO INSTALL THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS.
2, THAT THE 48" STORM SEWER BE INSTALLED FROM POINT "D" TO JUST EAST OF THE
ENTRANCE TO THE EAST APARTMENT BUILDING ABOUT 315' FROM 101,
36 THAT AN 18" PIPE BE INSTALLED FROM THE ABOVE POINT EASTERLY TO PICK UP
THE DRAINAGE ALONG 101,
MOTION was made by Councilman Neils, seconded by Councilman Spaeth, to amend
RESOLUTION 72-194, whereby it would be subject to a fourth condition;
44 THAT APPROPRIATE BONDING BE INCLUDED FOR TREES, LANDSCRAPING AND RECREA-
TIONAL FACILITIES, ETC,
Amendment to the main motion carried, all ayes, RESOLUTION NO, 7zmTW_
Main motion, as amended, carried: Rol) Call - Approval of "Development
five ayes. Contract''
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MOTION was made by Councilman Seibold, seconded by Councilman Hunt, to adopt
RESOLUTION 72-195. A RcSOLWTON APPROVING THE SITE PLAN as per St`aff ,_
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mendation. Motion caroted:
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Roll Ca11, [RESOLUTION -NO. 7-
five ayes. Approval of "Site Pian
Mayor .Hilde called recess at 10:02 p,.,m.T called back to order at 10:19 p.m.
ondi tignal se Permit and
ubd tvi)sion Variance (A-347)
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MOTION was made by,Councilman Hunt, seconded by Councilman N'eils,'to deny the
request for a subdivision variance and Conditional Use Permit for a service
station. Motion carried, five ayes.
Clarence--'Dillman, spokesman for Murphy Oil Corporation, pointed out that'the
real estate agent who sold the land in 1967 as two parcels never came in be-
fore the"Council for subdivision, and the tax bill for both parcels has alway
gone to them,
MOTION was made by Councilman Seibold, seconded by Coyncilman Hunt to deny a
subdivision variance request. Motion carried, five ayes.,
Mayor Hilde requested the Staff give Mr. Dillmann some direction on settli-ng
his problem, since the Village was not involved in the 1967 transaction.
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LDEWACRES
ter, Street and Storm Sewer Project
Item 6.L.
Engineer Rudrud discussed the points the Council requested the Staff to re-
search:
1. Frederickson Plat -- preliminary approval was given on April 5, 1971.
No further action- has been taken on the plat.
2. Outfall Structure from lost Lake -- the proposed storm sewer imp;*ovement
would cover a all part of te drainage area that goes into Lost lake.
The existing outfall channel from, lost Lake serves as a natural control.
At this time there is no need for any outflow control structere.
3. Need for Right -of -Way Easements -- discussed all the easements required
ass own on the map su4mitted to Council,
He felt that there would not be any negative effect on the pollution status
of Lost Lake, but there could be a problem if one of the alternate ire used
for the storm sewer as it would increase the run off from the area to the
south pond at County Road 18 and further downstream,
Engineer Rudrud recommended that the Council order water, permanent streets
with concrete curb and gutter and storm sewer, using the original proposal.
As alternates, he recommended that the water and storm sewer be constructed,
or that the water and restoration only be constructed,
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MOTION was madt", by Councilman Neils, seconded by Councilman Spaeth, to
deferthe water,I,mprovement project for this construction season. Motion,.,
carried,:,.five ayes
MOTION was made by Councilman Neils, seconded by Councilman Seibold, to
defer, thle "storm sewer project. Motion carried; five ayes.
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Zoni ng Variance
10TION was made by Councilman Spaeth, seconded by Councilman Seibold, to
adopt RESOLUTION -,NO. 72-197, A RESOLUTJgN
APPROVING THE SUBDIVISION VARIANCE FOR
FRED `U. SALMON -TO MAKE AN ADDITION TO HIS
HOME, as per Sta:'f recommendation. Motion RESOLUTION W, 72-197
carried: Four ayes, with Co.uncrlman Aunt Approval for Subdivision
Dabstaining. Variance to Fred . Salmon
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L. Amendments to Zoning Ordinance (A-11)
Item 1.A.
Councilman Hunt referred to Section 1.01 "Garage, Private" and stated that
the Wording "attached to the dwelling" offers no flexibility of design, Bill
Keeley advised that originally it was "as an accessory building," which
would •indicate that_ it is not attached. This wording was used so that thE-y
would not be accused of discriminating against certain housing types. They
are trying to establish a ;sense of openness to the Village. Their thought
was that garages have to be attached to the dwelling in some fashion; how-
ever. by variance they can have a detached garage. Councilman Neils pointed
out that this variance was not necessary, as it would fall under "Conditional
Use Permit." Councilman Hunt stated that in the Village of Plymouth if a
garage is within 10' of the building frost footings are required.
Mayor Hilde pointed out two questions to be considered:
1. Do we agree with the end they are seeking to arrive at, of having all
multiple dwellings with connected garages?
2. Do w,^ need to be. consistent between multiple and single family:'
Councilmen Neils, Seibold and Spaeth agreed; Councilman Hunt disagreed.
Councilman SpaeG;o' agreed except for single family.)
Councilman Seibold stated that the purpose of the Committee to upgrade the
minimal standards of foul ti pl a developments and to attract more quality mul -
tiple building in Plymouth.
Attorney Lefler stated that the ordinance defines multiple dwelling as a
building designed for occupancy by more than two families.
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Mayor Hilde pointed out that
I. The Council and citizens are not out to develop as fastrs possible.
2. If they do an outstanding job to set u -p, a quality situation in the
community it will enhance the development of projects in Plymouth,
which may offset the three ur four addit.io Wll steps a developer might,
have to take.
Councilman Neils asked Manager Willis how long it wott,ld take a Bingle-
family dweller to.,get a "Conditional Use Permi s" to have a detacf ed
garage built. lManager Wi 0 is stated that it would tate approxiwately
two months.
1.01 Section 4 Roll Call - Councilme,n Neils and Seibold voted aye
Councilma:h Spaeth an,.!4ayor Hilde voted nay
Objected to "single-family" wording.)
Councilman'`,Hunt voted nay
It was resolved that they Staff should work out some
solution to mak: it less inconvenient upon the single-
family owner that wa.kits to build a single-family detached
garage.
1.'02 Section 6 '(Same as 1.01 would apply.)
1.04 Section 7 Sarre as 1.01 would apply.)
1.05 Section 7 (Same as 1.0: would apply.)
1.06 Section 10 Bill Keeley pointed out that this snct{%;n would change the
required covered parking from one (i) t,k one and one-
quarter (14) spaces; and the three bedroom debit from 400
to 800 square feet. The Planner and Planning Commission
have done an excellent job in convincing the developers
to go underground parking in this type of deielopment.
Councilman Neils suggested polling on 1:1. All agreed.
Mayor Hilde pointed out that the objective was to reduce
the amount of outside parking and to eliminate shed -type
garages.
Councilman Hunt asked if there was a survey taken in re-
lationship to three bedroom apartments; and if the 800
square feet is based on the assumption that more children
are involved. Bill Keeley stated that no survey was rased,
and that this was included to discourage three bedrooln
apartments. Councilman Hunt felt that three-bedroom apart-
ments are too expensive for large families and that Trost
w.nuld be people moving from large homes, not that tWe
were more children. Councilmaiv Neils stated that the
third bedroom is used in 'club type apartments' for work-
ing singles. Mayor Hilde suggested that they leave the 5%
out, but keep the additional land requirevwnent,
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1.07 Section 10 Bill Keeley ted that '01 4b didn't` -want "below, grade
apartments and waq,tedll the apartment ab;,e grade.
Coun W agreed.
1.08 Section 10; Council agreed.
1.09 Section 10 Council undecided.
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1.10 Section 10 4ouncil agreed.
1 11 Section 10
Trash Disposal Councillman Neils stated that it should read:,
Except with townhouses and multiple residence sites
of four or less units) with private entrance."
Mayor Hilde questioned week's storage.
1.11 Section 10
Elevators Councilman'Spaeth asked the minimum size building that
would require an elevator. Bill Keeley stated .fat any
three-story apartment building would require on elevator`.
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1.12 Section 10 Council agreed.
1.13 Section 17 c. Mul-tiple Dwelling Parking - Change from 1 tc 1.N
d. Townhoospts, - Staff is to check this out. N
1.14 Section 17 8. O.k, as is.
9. "Noise"
Councilman N;tils stated that if a man -is going to put
a noisy heating plant or pump into a facility, he
ehoold' build it so people can tolerate it If build-
ing (next to a freeway, this noise should be taken into
account before building. Bill Keeley stated that this
will be enforceable by testing after completion.
Counci 11 agreed.
Mayor Hilde asked the staff to make comments on all sections' enforceability
and particularly on noise.
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Item 9.C.
Manager Willis stated that the Attorney General formulated an opinion con-
cerning the regulation of water aircraft, which was given to the Village
Staff by the Village Attorney. He pointed out that the Coun%;il received
calls from citizens, and as a result the Staff prepared an ordinance for the
consideration by the Council. It states "Prohibition for the use of sea-
planes, airplanes taking off and landing from the waters within the Village
of Plymouth with the exception of Medicine Lake." It would specifically proft
habit ail such taking off and landing from all other lakes and bodies of
waters,
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June S. 1972
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Ra Swanson 2205 Xanthus Lane (spokesman for the pilots He lives,onRay (a
Mooney Lake and state tat there is no public access to the lake and
that it is all Private Lakeshore. He stated that the planes do not take
off early in the morning or late in the evening, disturbing residents.
He also noted that snowmobiles are much noisier and they are allowed.
He stated that there are'seven lakes in Plymc.uth that are suitable for
seaplane operation. He felt that the State,Pepartment of Aeronautics
could help with the problem.
Ralph Goodwin: His property is located in Medina on Mooney Lake. He
stated that,a few years ago Medina, Plymouth and Orono passed an ordi-
nance regarding motor boats on Mooney Lake where the horsepower was
r,µlimited to a very low level (5 hp). We felt that seaplane
operations would be inconsistent with that ordinance. He noted that the
purpose of this ordinance was to prohibit water skiin on thelake.
9 Attorney Lefler staffed that he has been in touch with the Commission
of Aeronautics and Commission of Natural Resources who advised that,at
some time in the future they,are going to adopt regulations relating to
this matter that will apply to all
lakes. A. R Truex
Way zate): He stated that all ef' the coficern was based
on one accident, and he did not feel that one incident warranted
banning airplanes from lakes in
Plymouth. Mayor Hilde made two
points: I. It should not take place in residential
areas. 2. What kinds of criteria are we going to give the consideration of
any lake, outside the residential consideration,,,shap,e, size,
etc. He did not feel that it was fair to automatically say that all lakes
in Plymouth should prohibit seaplanes without making further stu'dies..
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F pressed a willingness to worT'wffFthe Council to work out
restrictions, Mayor Hilde stated that in working out regulations the Council
should 1. Define a residential
area. 2. Use the information available through Mr. Nelson's association
regard- ing distances, obstacle clearance factors, size of lake,
etc, 3. Develop uniform criteria on approach to shares, hours of
use. He directed the staff to develop the material
required To be coverod on June 12, 1972
meeting.
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1 Ra Swanson 2205 Xanthus Lane (spokesman for the pilots He lives,on Ray (
a Mooney Lake and state tat there is no public access to the lake
and that it is all Private Lakeshore. He stated that the planes do not
take off early in the morning or late in the evening, disturbing
residents. He also noted that snowmobiles are much noisier and they are
allowed. He stated that there are'seven lakes in Plymc.uth that are suitable
for seaplane operation. He felt that the State,Pepartment of
Aeronautics could help with the
problem. Ralph Goodwin: His property is located in Medina on Mooney Lake.
He stated that,a few years ago Medina, Plymouth and Orono passed an
ordi- nance regarding motor boats on Mooney Lake where the horsepower
was r,µlimited to a very low level (5 hp). We felt that
seaplane operations would be inconsistent with that ordinance. He noted that
the purpose of this ordinance was to prohibit water skiin onthe
lake. 9 Attorney Lefler staffed that he has been in touch with the
Commission of Aeronautics and Commission of Natural Resources who advised that,
at some time in the future they,are going to adopt regulations relating
to this matter that will apply to
all lakes. A. R
Truex Way zate): He stated that all ef' the coficern was
based on one accident, and he did not feel that one incident
warranted banning airplanes from lakes
in Plymouth. Mayor Hilde made
two points: I. It should not take place in
residential areas. 2. What kinds of criteria are we going to give the consideration
of any lake, outside the residential consideration,,,shap,e,
size, etc. He did not feel that it was fair to automatically say that all
lakes in Plymouth should prohibit seaplanes without making further stu'
dies..
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N d Arthur Nelson vice president of Minnesota S orts Avi
tion
Ex - F pressed a willingness to worT'wffFthe Council to work
out restrictions, Mayor Hilde stated that in working out regulations the
Council should 1. Define a
residential area. 2. Use the information available through Mr. Nelson's
association regard- ing distances, obstacle clearance factors, size of
lake, etc, 3. Develop uniform criteria on approach to shares, hours
of use. He directed the staff to develop the
material required To be coverod on June 12,
1972
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Regular Council Meeting
June 5 1972,
Page Eleven
VOTING EQUIPME
Item 1.C.
MOTION was made Mayd Hilde, seconded by Councilman Hunt, to adopt RE$OLUTION
NO. 72-1989 A RESOL.UTION APPROVING PURCHASE BY THE VILLAGE OF PLYMOUTH FOR
70 VOTOMATIC PUNCH CARD UNITS. Motion RESOLUTI N0. 72-198
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carried: Roll call - three ayes with APPROVAL FOR VILLAGE OF PLY -
Councilmen Neiis and Spaeth voting nay. MOUTH TO PURCHASE VOTOMATI`u,§
Item 7.D.
Councilman Spaeth recommended that on work done for the Village of Plymouth
that a lien waiver be made)befor' first petyment is made.
Mayor Hilde pointed out that
1. The project has to be finished.
2. The Village paid too much money toe fast.
VICKSBURG UWE= COUNTY ROAD 6-2
Plan Aparoval .... Item 7.E.
MOTION was made by Councilman Seibold, seconded bX Councilman Spaeth, to
adopt RESOLUTION N0, 72-1999 A RESOLUTIONRESP -
APPROVING VICKSBURG LANE STREET IMPROVE- APPROVAL OF VIC.KSBURG LANE
MENT. Motion carried, ali ayes. STREET IMPROVEMENT.
PLAYHOUSE
Preliminary Report - Water and Sewer
Item 7.F.
Action delayed until meeting on June lZ 1972. (Amended 6.112/72)
LICENSES AND P RMI S:
Items 8.A., 8.B., 8.C.2 B.D., 8.E., and 8.'c.
MOTION was made by`Councilman Hunt, seconded
by Councilman Spaeth, to adopt RESOLUTION N0.
72-2009 A RESOLUTION APPROVING LICENSE RENEWALS
FOR THE FOLLOWING: CIGARETTE, OFF SALE MALT
LIQUOR, ON SALE MALT LIQUOR, SET-UP, SMALL
DISPOSAL SYSTEM AND A PERMIT FOR EARTH MATER -72-200
IALS OPERATIONS, as per Staff recommendation. APPROVAL OF LICENSE RENEWAL
Motion carried, five ayes. LAND PERMIT APPLICATIONS.
U SO L U T f'M`AA
Items 93.
Action delayed until meeting on June lZ 19720
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Regular Council Meeting
June 5, 1972
Page Twelve
Water and. Sewer Project No. 222
Item 7.F.
MOTION was made by Councilman Spaeth, seconded
RESOLUTION NO. 72-201, A RESOLUTION APPROVING
PRELIMINARY REPORT FOR PLAYHOUSE INDUSTRIAL
PARK WATER AND SEWER PROJECT NO. 222.
Motion carried, four ayes with Mayor Hilde
abstaining.
MOTION was cnade by Councilman Spaeth, seconded
RESOLUTION NO. 72-2020 A RESOLUTION APPROVING
A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT HEARING ON JUNE 191 1972.
Motion carried, five ayes.
Meeting adjourned at 12:55 p.m.
by Councilman Hunt, to adopt
RESOLUTION NO. 72-Z01
APPROVAL OF PRELIMINARY REPOR
FOR WATER AND' -SEWER PROJECT
N0. 222
RESOLUTION N0, 72-202
APPROVAL OF PUBLIC HEARIPrv,,
SET FOR JUNE 19, 1972.
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Mina May Mitfon
Village Clerk
Village of Plymouth, Minnesota